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How Frustrating and Intense is VMA Really?

Ch4mpTW
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https://youtu.be/Q_DpeT4dl4U

As I told someone in another thread, and as I tell people who ask just how intense VMA truly is — I figured I'd show this video clip. So just how intense is VMA...? Well... You only need a split-second to fail, and have all your progress get washed down the drain due to a poor decision or RNG. Sometimes both.

Synopsis:
In this video clip, it shows me having an edge on the final boss in VMA. The boss is low on health, and it seems like I have him on the ropes... Little did I know at the time, I was going to make a single mistake that would snowball into a few mistakes. Causing all that hard work to go down the drain, from a single split-second of misplay.

Side Note:
Yes, I did end-up beating it with my StamDK. I've beaten VMA a StamDK many times. But this clip in particular was special to me, because it was my second most peak of intense anger caused by VMA. The first causing me to break a coffee table. Luckily, nothing was broken from this incident — except for my motivation to continue for a few minutes. Lol. :D
  • EsoRecon
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    you ran out of stam... it's your own fault in the vid.
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  • Mush55
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    Wish I could get to the last round mate, but ye makes you mad when you know your messing up........
  • EsoRecon
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    all you need to do to make vMA a cakewalk is repetition. Keep doing it over and over until eventually it clicks.
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  • altemriel
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    Ch4mpTW wrote: »
    https://youtu.be/Q_DpeT4dl4U

    As I told someone in another thread, and as I tell people who ask just how intense VMA truly is — I figured I'd show this video clip. So just how intense is VMA...? Well... You only need a split-second to fail, and have all your progress get washed down the drain due to a poor decision or RNG. Sometimes both.

    Synopsis:
    In this video clip, it shows me having an edge on the final boss in VMA. The boss is low on health, and it seems like I have him on the ropes... Little did I know at the time, I was going to make a single mistake that would snowball into a few mistakes. Causing all that hard work to go down the drain, from a single split-second of misplay.

    Side Note:
    Yes, I did end-up beating it with my StamDK. I've beaten VMA a StamDK many times. But this clip in particular was special to me, because it was my second most peak of intense anger caused by VMA. The first causing me to break a coffee table. Luckily, nothing was broken from this incident — except for my motivation to continue for a few minutes. Lol. :D



    oh dude, I will watch that video later after I will came home from work, but from what you are writting, I will have to check MA next time I play :).

    I am just a casual, no pro, so I had troubles even with the non-vetMA :), but it was still great fun for me :)
  • bebynnag
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    how frustrating is vMA i used to have long hair... now im bald!

    /joke
  • Arthur_Spoonfondle
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    Ch4mpTW wrote: »

    As I told someone in another thread, and as I tell people who ask just how intense VMA truly is — I figured I'd show this video clip. So just how intense is VMA...? Well... You only need a split-second to fail, and have all your progress get washed down the drain due to a poor decision or RNG. Sometimes both.

    Synopsis:
    In this video clip, it shows me having an edge on the final boss in VMA. The boss is low on health, and it seems like I have him on the ropes... Little did I know at the time, I was going to make a single mistake that would snowball into a few mistakes. Causing all that hard work to go down the drain, from a single split-second of misplay.

    Side Note:
    Yes, I did end-up beating it with my StamDK. I've beaten VMA a StamDK many times. But this clip in particular was special to me, because it was my second most peak of intense anger caused by VMA. The first causing me to break a coffee table. Luckily, nothing was broken from this incident — except for my motivation to continue for a few minutes. Lol. :D

    If you are getting that worked-up over a game, you really need to think about your priorities in life and learn how to maintain some semblance of self-control.

  • Bam_Bam
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    I can't get past boss 5!

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  • altemriel
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    how frustrating is vMA i used to have long hair... now im bald!

    /joke

    :smiley:


  • Ch4mpTW
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    EsoRecon wrote: »
    you ran out of stam... it's your own fault in the vid.

    I know it is. Read the synopsis. Lol. A single misplay cost me my victory in that particular boss engagement. Besides, it's VMA. It can only be my fault, or bugs, or poor RNG. In that particular case, it was my fault.
    Baranthus wrote: »
    I can't get past boss 5!

    I'd love a 2handed maul or sword, but I'm just not suited to PvE sadly :(

    Go DW, comrade. Axe and dagger, or 2 daggers. Run 2pcs. Velindreth, 5pcs. Night Mother's Gaze, and 5pcs. Vicious Serpent. With a bow of your choice on the back bar. Enjoy literally 1 to 3-shotting everything, but bosses. And even then, you can apply such high damage to bosses, that boss fights last no longer than 4mins.
    Edited by Ch4mpTW on September 8, 2016 10:25AM
  • Bobby_V_Rockit
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    I cant get past round 1 of stage 1. Gear is not the problem, the pure lack of any skill seems to be lol.
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    This is a fav of mine, when console dodge roll doesn't happen.

    http://xboxdvr.com/gamer/DR X Harbinger/video/21359457

    On another note, Look how truly broken this crap really is.

    http://xboxdvr.com/gamer/DR X Harbinger/video/20919174

    This is the same for EVERYONE!
    Edited by DRXHarbinger on September 8, 2016 10:38AM
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  • Ch4mpTW
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    I cant get past round 1 of stage 1. Gear is not the problem, the pure lack of any skill seems to be lol.

    @Bobby_V_Rockit
    Which class are you attempting to clear it with, and magicka or stamina? If I can clear VMA with a PetSorc relatively easy, you can definitely clear it. Promised bruh. Let me know the class type and magicka and stamina, and I'll try to post-up a clear for you.
  • Schemering
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    Id say its very intense the first few runs; for me it has never been frustrating i just kept practising until it became easy. Now i can just take one of my chars and run it, fast with the ones i did it with before and a bit clumsy with the ones that didnt do it yet. I can imagine its frustrating for the ones that are in it for the loot though;)
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  • deleted220701-004865
    Thank God it's not as hard as the games we had to play in the 1980s as 7 year olds.
  • Bobby_V_Rockit
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    Did anyone ever manage to get all 7 chaos emeralds back then without skund test cheat?
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    Tondodino wrote: »
    Thank God it's not as hard as the games we had to play in the 1980s as 7 year olds.

    IDK bruh. Contra, Castlevania, Mega Man, Ghosts and Goblins, Double Dragon, etc. weren't nearly as frustrating as ESO's VMA. And even now years later, the games I listed are still pretty challenging and hardcore. Especially Contra and Mega Man. VMA is on a league of its own in terms of intensity. The Dark Souls series comes slightly close, but not really. VMA requires pretty strict precision and timing. And as my video showed, the slightest misplay can cost you everything. The only relatively old game that I can think of that comes close of intensity and frustration would be the old school Ninja Gaiden.
    Edited by Ch4mpTW on September 8, 2016 11:28AM
  • MaxwellC
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    @Ch4mpTW Honestly this vid showed me it was your fault; you spent a lot of your stam re-casting caltrops instead of saving it and when you did, you didn't mix in some heavy attacks to regain some resources which caused you not to be able to dodge + on top of that if you attempt to dodge and have low resources it will consume the stamina without letting dodge.
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  • Ch4mpTW
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    @Ch4mpTW Honestly this vid showed me it was your fault; you spent a lot of your stam re-casting caltrops instead of saving it and when you did, you didn't mix in some heavy attacks to regain some resources which caused you not to be able to dodge + on top of that if you attempt to dodge and have low resources it will consume the stamina without letting dodge.

    @MaxwellCrystal
    I know it was my fault. Lol. I said it was my fault, bro. Read the synopsis.
  • sluice
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    @Ch4mpTW, lol I can feel your pain.

    This clip, is me completely failing at the end. It was the first time I got him under 30% and was super excited, trembling...
    I screwed up my overload big time and yeah he only had 0.2% left.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N8jyJIWn0AQ

    The good news is a few runs later, I managed to get him and since then he's easy to kill. After spending hours on this boss alone, you have no other choice to know the mechanic inside out.

    While I mean it's easy, things can still go sour really quickly. It doesn't take much to screw up a run.
    -Error human factor (most frequent)
    -RNG (position of ghosts, where the boss teleports, etc.)


    Like your video proves, one mistake can be your last!
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    Ch4mpTW, hope you don't take my comments the wrong way, but your main fault wasn't a "single mistake" but, mainly, not following the round mechanics.

    1 - Don't hurry the fight (you did).

    2 - You didn't pay attention and didn't go for the ghost that spawned at 0:08. Boss grabbed it while you had time to get it. It was your 3rd ghost, right?

    3 - The boss makes his AoE explosion on 0:16, you avoid it but, instead of attacking the boss from distance (Poison Injection, bow heavy or light attack, etc.) while waiting to see where he teleports to, you go back to melee attack him. Why?

    4 - After the rapid strikes you perform, you drop Hendless Hail on the spot he was about to leave (again, you should have known he was going to teleport after his AoE explosion).

    5 - You were low on stamina, however, never used melee or ranged heavy attacks to recover some.

    So, Endless Hail on the correct spot, Poison Injections/light attacks you didn't do plus heavy attacks would have killed him for sure.

    Also, that would have get you the Flawless Dawnbreaker ulti on time.

    I'm not saying yo don't know the mechanics, I know you do, just pointing out the mistakes on the video.

    By the way, thanks for sharing as it will help other players. :)
  • N0TPLAYER2
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    How many times you gonna post about smashing a coffee table? It only makes you look childish.
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    N0TPLAYER2 wrote: »
    How many times you gonna post about smashing a coffee table? It only makes you look childish.

    Every day I wake up to some new topic by this guy.
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    This is why I only play content that's enjoyable BRUH . A little challenging is good and maybe use one or two soul gems at most . This is how I go outside and enjoy the birds singing in the morning outside the shop . Feeding squirrels and stretching in morning sunlight with no worries about game stuff when I wake . :D If PvP gets too brutal , I go adventuring . If trials get too crazy I go hang out and talk to people in a city . Every time I do something better comes along . A great group of expert dungeon runners inviting me to tag along with no hard work or a run in with a friendly crafter to upgrade somethings for PvP life being easier . Just go with the flow and don't force things so hard . When you're super geared and being ready , VMA becomes too easy .
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    Literally one heavy attack (dmg and get stam back) and an execute would have killed the boss. Seems like your nerves got the best of you ;)
    Edited by Sallington on September 8, 2016 3:26PM
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  • Ch4mpTW
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    Sallington wrote: »
    Literally one heavy attack (dmg and get stam back) and an execute would have killed the boss. Seems like your nerves got the best of you ;)

    @Sallington
    They did indeed. I was so "tunnel-visioned" on the prize ahead, that I completely ignored resource management. And was only acting off of impulse. To put it simply, I got too greedy. :P
  • damiandjay24
    I probably won't ever complete this. Just too hard (for me).
    Edited by damiandjay24 on September 8, 2016 5:00PM
  • iRogue32
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    @Ch4mpTW why do you make a new post about vMA every single day?
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  • Milvan
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    C'mon guys, we all know the real boss in the final fight is the crematorial guard XD
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  • sluice
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    iRogue32 wrote: »
    @Ch4mpTW why do you make a new post about vMA every single day?

    Because it's a free forum and he feels like it.
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  • outsideworld76
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    The lag in VMA is insane. I wonder when ZOS will put vma weapons in wet gunny sacks. Fishing is the only mechanic in this game that works as advertised.
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