DRM1412 wrote: »

And it's so sad seeing the Aldmeri Dominion recreated with such awful goals, completely the opposite of what Queen Ayrenn wanted.

^This is what makes me sad; Her Majesty would be horrified if she knew.

Sorry for not being so in deep in the lore, but from when I played Morrowind I was left with the impression that Argonians just fought off their slavery. Some dark elves still were using Argonians as slaves and those that were free were looked down upon in Dunmer populated cities.

Has something changed in the lore since TES3: Morrowind?

Well, you obviously know about the Oblivion crisis.
When Daedric portal opened at Kvatch (which was main portal for the Daedric invaders), and across Tamriel, Hist summoned ALL Argonians on Tamriel back to Argonia to defend their homeland from this threat. It is said that Dremoras closed the gates themselves to prevent being overrun by Argonian warriors who fanatically went through the portals to close them from the other side. When Argonians successfully defended Argonia (by themselves) they declared independence from the Cyrodiilic Empire, after which An-Xileel (Argonian royal army) went to Kvatch, defeated Dremoras there, closed that portal, thus ending Oblivion Crisis.
After this, they returned to Argonia and soon after this Argonian invasion of Morrowind started. It was indeed motivated by centuries of Dunmeri enslavement of Argonians, and they used the fact that Morrowind was weakened, as was whole Tamriel, so no one could help them. An-Xileel conquered most of Morrowind, but then Redoran organized the defense of the Dunmer and pushed them back to cca half.
At the time of events in TES V: Skyrim, Argonia is independent and isn't part of the Empire, and also southern half of Morrowind is under Argonian rule. This is also said by an NPC who's name I forgot.. the Telvanni mage in DLC "Dragonborn".

As far as I know, map of Tamriel during the times of TES V: Skyrim is like this:

• Argonia and southern half of Morrowind are under Independent Argonia.
• Elsweyr, Valenwood and Summerset Isles are part of Third Aldmeri Dominion.
• Cyrodiil, northern Morrowind, High Rock, Skyrim and Wrothgar are under The Empire, with Skyrim being in civil war.
• Hammerfell also became independent, but because of The Great War.

IMO Argonians are the most underrated race in TES universe, since their peacefullness has been confused with weakness. They tend to keep to themselves, but after centuries of enslavement, even Argonians started to seek revenge.. and they got it.

Indeed.. although I don't know much about it.

The sad truth is that as long as Tamriel doesn't live under the wise and inflexible rule of the Orsimer (well, of wood Orcs, not those posh toffs from Wrothgar), there will be pain and desolation.

Xerosus wrote: »

Pff, none of that compares to Landfall.

is the Landfall this?

https://m.reddit.com/r/teslore/comments/2reyef/what_is_c0da_an_answer/

Eporem wrote: »

When Orsinium came out I felt very sad for the Orcs when reading the lore of this.

But at the same time, made me feel an utmost respect for them to hold off an entire invading force for 30 years.

Emothic wrote: »

When you really think about it, all of this is rather pointless. Yes we can think about how bad things will turn out for the races in the next thousand years, but you're forgetting one thing. Dragonbreak. What is Dragonbreak? Dragonbreak is the ability to change the past, present, and future with the powers of the Elder Scrolls or the Divines themselves. If you did not know Cyrodil was actually a "Jungle" like area, filled with thick growth of trees and other shrubs. Then when Talos acended into a Divine is changed the past and created the Cyrodil as we know now.

In fact I watched a video and at the end of Elder Scrolls Morrowind, a Dragonbreak happens. I don't remember what happens from it, but I do know it was caused from an Elder Scroll.

The Dragon Break happened in TES: Daggerfall. It was mostly a concept brought in because the game had a bunch of different endings and wanted to make all of them canonical, and they did it in a really cool way.
The Dragonbreak of Daggerfall, called Warp in the West, basically meant that every single "big" sovereign of High Rock and Hammerfell had access to the Numidium and used it to consolidate their power at the same time, also Mannimarco used the Mantella, which powered the Numidium, to recieve godly powers, also the Numidium was destroyed, too. Or vanished, depending on where you like to read stuff. The Underking, who is thought to be either Zurin Arctus, Wulfhart or both, earn their rest because their soul was in the Mantella. All at the same time.

Sometimes I wonder how many shrooms and kilograms of LSD is used to write this stuff.

In the great words of Fallout

"War......War Never Changes"

What happens to the Redguards?