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I dislike your light, Gameboyfrank! [Hollowjack Feedback Thread]

  • Valorin
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    Valorin wrote: »
    I have to agree with Manavortex here. Awesomely made, but totally the wrong lore for all that flashy stuff. I mean, if I walk around in the Shivering Isles, yeah, okay, there is some weird stuff going on, or in some other plane of Oblivion. But even now, with Dro M'athra style and Panther, Nirn has become a Las Vegas kind of place, and not the one I remember from the offline games.
    "Sure," you might say, "it's second Era, perhaps it has been like that...", and I can't argue with that, but it's not the tune that got me going in any other Elder Scrolls game. It's awkwardly misplaced for me and kills off all the awesome work and detail that went into the less flashy worldspace.

    I leave this guy here, whoever that is, whom I met in Eastmarch, not in the Shivering Isles as the outfit might make you think, but in beautifully cold and grim Skyrim... Immediately killed off the atmosphere and mood of my surroundings.

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    The dro-m'Athra are from the Dark Behind the World, which is connected to Namira's (or Namiira's) Scuttling Void in Oblivion. The dro-m'Athra are not from Nirn, nor is their armour. Therefore your argument of how it was more fitting in the Shivering Isles makes no sense. It is the perfectly right lore for it. Please, make sure you know what you are talking about before you make an argument concerning it.

    I apologize for not being precise with lore items. :D
    Actually I just generalized it to point out that its look breaks immersion a lot when not in an environment that belongs to these kinds of things. My point was not about lore, but about immersion on the worldspace of the game. It's hard to immerse with the beautiful landscapes with glow-guys running across your sceen all few seconds.
  • Preyfar
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    Valorin wrote: »
    I leave this guy here, whoever that is, whom I met in Eastmarch, not in the Shivering Isles as the outfit might make you think, but in beautifully cold and grim Skyrim... Immediately killed off the atmosphere and mood of my surroundings.

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  • susmitds
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    manavortex wrote: »
    It is the perfectly right lore for it. Please, make sure you know what you are talking about before you make an argument concerning it.

    So we're in the Dark Behind the World now?
    Else, why would about 50% of Mournhold's population wear the local fashion in Namira's plane of Oblivion?

    Why does more than half of China and Japan follow an Indian religion called Buddhism?

    It is called mixture of culture.
  • DannyLV702
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    I don't understand the title :/
  • WillhelmBlack
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  • Valorin
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    susmitds wrote: »
    manavortex wrote: »
    It is the perfectly right lore for it. Please, make sure you know what you are talking about before you make an argument concerning it.

    So we're in the Dark Behind the World now?
    Else, why would about 50% of Mournhold's population wear the local fashion in Namira's plane of Oblivion?

    Why does more than half of China and Japan follow an Indian religion called Buddhism?

    It is called mixture of culture.

    When inhabitants of Oblivion come over to Nirn that's not what I would call "mixture of culture". It's an invasion.

    Nobody ever said anything against mixing races and racial styles. That's not the topic. But actually the lore point isn't the topic as well. It's about the course of the game adding glow-gear stuff and making it craftable. You know, you could add slipstream (space)ships and lots of weird stuff as well without conflicting with lore, and on a small scale, that would be all right for me _but_ having these things as a common sight all over Tamriel just kills off the integrity of this awesomely immersive game.
  • Elara_Northwind
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    I think that the light up bits on it are rather cool... :lol: I don't really like this style much though, but I know a couple of people who love it, its just not to my taste and so I won't be wearing it myself, but I do however, absolutely LOVE the new grim harlequin style so so much <3

    Elara North-Twin the template impostor cannot get enough of it, I think it's my new favourite, I can't wait for character transfer to be able to try it out on my main :blush:

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  • manavortex
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  • elias.stormneb18_ESO
    Valorin wrote: »
    Valorin wrote: »
    I have to agree with Manavortex here. Awesomely made, but totally the wrong lore for all that flashy stuff. I mean, if I walk around in the Shivering Isles, yeah, okay, there is some weird stuff going on, or in some other plane of Oblivion. But even now, with Dro M'athra style and Panther, Nirn has become a Las Vegas kind of place, and not the one I remember from the offline games.
    "Sure," you might say, "it's second Era, perhaps it has been like that...", and I can't argue with that, but it's not the tune that got me going in any other Elder Scrolls game. It's awkwardly misplaced for me and kills off all the awesome work and detail that went into the less flashy worldspace.

    I leave this guy here, whoever that is, whom I met in Eastmarch, not in the Shivering Isles as the outfit might make you think, but in beautifully cold and grim Skyrim... Immediately killed off the atmosphere and mood of my surroundings.

    ApplicationFrameHost_2016-09-05_17-42-18.png

    The dro-m'Athra are from the Dark Behind the World, which is connected to Namira's (or Namiira's) Scuttling Void in Oblivion. The dro-m'Athra are not from Nirn, nor is their armour. Therefore your argument of how it was more fitting in the Shivering Isles makes no sense. It is the perfectly right lore for it. Please, make sure you know what you are talking about before you make an argument concerning it.

    I apologize for not being precise with lore items. :D
    Actually I just generalized it to point out that its look breaks immersion a lot when not in an environment that belongs to these kinds of things. My point was not about lore, but about immersion on the worldspace of the game. It's hard to immerse with the beautiful landscapes with glow-guys running across your sceen all few seconds.

    I agree to an extent, although I still prefer the dro-m'Athra gear looking like it does instead of all dro-m'Athra wearing the Barbaric style as they did at launch.
  • elias.stormneb18_ESO
    manavortex wrote: »
    I was only arguing that the design choices for the dro-m'Athra style make perfect sense.
    Sure, given that everyone is a Namira cultist all of a sudden (not saying that's impossible, just maybe silly). But point aside, since I don't think any of us is wrong:

    Could the Oblivion-inspired armor maybe not look like Las Vegas on Skooma?

    Edit: Please?

    It defintely could, but it wouldn't make any more sense for it to do so.
  • silvereyes
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    I'd totally agree if the tron kitty were all about looks, but it explodes out of the ground!
    As soon as I heard that and saw the animation ... had to have and no regrets.

    That said, I don't really like that everything is glowy now. The amberplasm and hollowjerk stuff are obnoxious. So is the dro'mothra motif, tbh, even though I do like the mount. I wish the glow on all the above were more muted, even the senche mount.

    Still though, it doesn't bother me a ton. It's a game world with talking lizard people, mounts that appear out of thin air (my wife calls them "pocket horses"), and actors that walk right through one another. "Immersion" isn't really something I've ever been able to accomplish here.

    Honestly, pets annoy me a heck of a lot more. Sometimes the Rawl'kha bank looks like a freaking pet shop.

    Wouldn't it be cool if we had more control over how bright the glowy bits were, or whether to display cosmetic pets at all?
  • Marvos
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    It would be lovely if we could change the glow colour or have the option somewhere not have it glow.
  • Carbonised
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    New collectibles have been datamined, and unfortunately the neon-fest has just begin, the future looks bright, in the most litteral way. Not to mention the skeletal mounts (lol, come on ..)
    Amberplasm and Dro-M'athra was just the beginning.

    From now on I shall refer to every on of these as a 'Glowing One'
    Edited by Carbonised on September 6, 2016 4:48PM
  • BlazingDynamo
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    I thought Dro-mathra was awesome looking on NPCs. The way it was used in vMoL was amazing but as a motif... Ehh I don't think it was necessary but it's not the end of the world.

    I like the hallowjack, it looks cool, it's fun I don't see the big deal of event themed motif styles.
  • Roechacca
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    I'll reserve judgement for ingame. Flat screenshots sometimes don't do justice.
  • Marvos
    Marvos
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    I will see what they look in game with all my settings before making any final judgements on them. Skeletal mounts have been data mined since the realise of crown store I think, I am looking forward to using them when they do eventually come out.
  • Mix
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    I like the visual and I really want this visual on my main.

    That's what I thought when I crafted Hollowjack too!

    I don't mind the glow at all. Fantasy universe and we already have Dro'mothra which is blue and glowy and skins which transform your character to be glowy.
  • AtAfternoon
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    I've seen more colourful ones in older entries.
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  • Mallepele
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    I have to say I also dislike many of the fashion choices that are made at ESO
    (Well, I will tolerate it, because in a game with that much Players you otherwise won't get happy)
    But I think the main purpose of this post is to show ZOS/ESO team that some of us players don't like some of the choices of the design team
    I for myself have so say that the first awefull looking things were valkyn skoria items. I know that the set is really good, I have it myself (but I'm currently not using it on any of my chars) but the helmet....well, lets just say I don't like the looks, so I would very much apreciate any player who hides his/her Valkyn Skoria helmet ;D
    I also guess that in the customization of each character many players just go for "attention-craving" looks, I guess thats just the way it is in MMOs, some players don't care about lore or appropriate looks, they just wanna glow (because they think thats cool, but C'mon, what is this, the Tron movie from 1982?)
    I for myself am a huge fan of the TES series, more then of MMOs, so I try to name/equip my characters so they mostly fit in this fascinating universe, lore and environment
    I will tolerate everybody who makes other choices, as well as the design choices of the ESO team, but I don't approve the above-mentioned ones
    (to be honest, I think Valkyn Skoria, es well es some other undaunted masks, dro'matha, the glowing hist blobs are worse then Hollowjack, at least not everybody will wear a Pumpkin-Head....thats what I feared when I first hear of it)
    Nevertheless I am looking forward to witches-festival-event, because I normally like events that bring some variety into ESO
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