Hluill wrote: »

So, I made the mistake of thinking I could make a crafting alt. Yeah, he's always short of skill points.

You need 122 points to be fully skilled out in Crafting. Add some more for how many ever Keen Eye Passives you want. Then add another 30 or so points to make them survivable for Farming and getting to some of the Crafting Stations.

So, level your crafting character while researching traits and deconning mob loot until you get that many skill points, then you can invest them into crafting.

Hluill wrote: »

Nestor wrote: »

Hluill wrote: »

So, I made the mistake of thinking I could make a crafting alt. Yeah, he's always short of skill points.

You need 122 points to be fully skilled out in Crafting. Add some more for how many ever Keen Eye Passives you want. Then add another 30 or so points to make them survivable for Farming and getting to some of the Crafting Stations.

So, level your crafting character while researching traits and deconning mob loot until you get that many skill points, then you can invest them into crafting.

Yep, and I am learning how long, and many levels it takes to get one-hundred and twenty-two points, plus the points they will need to survive. In other words, making a crafting alt is a waste of time, because they will have to be an adventurer for at least thirty levels and quite a few open dungeons.

Some folks prefer to split off the consumables crafting (provisioning, alchemy, enchanting), but my main character is also my crafter (in all schools) and I like it that way. If at least provisioning & alchemy are on your playing character(s) you can always make food, drink, and potions when needed during your gameplay and without an interruption to change characters and transfer the food/drink/potions.

Remember that while your main character(s) will eventually have plenty of skill points, it can be difficult to gather sufficient levels & skill points on a character designed solely around crafting.

Gradually Invest Skill Points

This plan will help keep the points from getting out of hand when skill points are difficult to get in early levels. Eventually you'll find you have plenty of points to put in all recommended or desired skills.

Provisioning would be the first place to invest points in my opinion. Spending points in Connoisseur (to extend the duration of drinks) is essential before drinking Psijic Ambrosia (the experience booster). The ability to make food at your level (Recipe Improvement) in at least blue quality (Recipe Quality 2) is significant and should be invested next. While Brewer & Chef might also be handy, they are only absolutely necessary once using perfect roe to create recipes such as Psijic Ambrosia & Orzorga's Smoked Bear Haunch as other ingredients are relatively plentiful.

On a first character, invest one rank into Keen Eye for Blacksmith, Cloth, Wood, & Alchemy as soon as possible to learn what these materials look like and to begin gathering these resources as you play. Keen Eye is not necessary for Enchanting however; all runestones glow already and do not blend into the vegetation like many other collectible materials, so once you learn to recognize them they can be easily spotted from afar.

Always invest as rapidly in possible in the skills that reduce research time and allow simultaneous trait research studies. Further invest in your blacksmith/cloth/wood skills as you level, keeping your material tier useful to your most advanced character's level.

Early on I'd skip putting points into Enchanting, focusing on leveling enchanting through deconstruction. I'd also ignore Alchemy skills for a short while -- except for the 2 skill points that help effectively learn all traits while starting to level the craft nicely.

If you follow the recommendations in Sunshine Daydream's Guide to Crafting you'll eventually invest around 100 points for a well-rounded do-it-all crafter:

• 11 points Alchemy (plus 4 for consumers)
• 15 points Enchanting
• 14 points Provisioning (plus 3-6 for consumers)
• 20 points Blacksmithing
• 20 points Clothing
• 20 points Woodworking

Tevalaur wrote: »

Some folks prefer to split off the consumables crafting (provisioning, alchemy, enchanting), but my main character is also my crafter (in all schools) and I like it that way. If at least provisioning & alchemy are on your playing character(s) you can always make food, drink, and potions when needed during your gameplay and without an interruption to change characters and transfer the food/drink/potions.

Remember that while your main character(s) will eventually have plenty of skill points, it can be difficult to gather sufficient levels & skill points on a character designed solely around crafting.

Gradually Invest Skill Points

Yep, all good advice, too late unless I want to delete and lose all the time and resources invested.

Hluill wrote: »

Yep, and I am learning how long, and many levels it takes to get one-hundred and twenty-two points, plus the points they will need to survive. In other words, making a crafting alt is a waste of time, because they will have to be an adventurer for at least thirty levels and quite a few open dungeons.

My Master Crafter, 9/9, most Motifs Known, all Crafting Skills Maxed and Fully Invested is also my most effective wrecking machine. Yep, your crafter has to be an adventurer in this game, even if just for farming and craft set station access.

TBH, you don't need to do any equipment crafting before Champ Ranks. But, do take that time to get to at least 6 traits on the gear you do use and gather any motifs to that character. All the while deconning everything you get your hands on. You can always respec out your skill points into crafting later. Then, if you keep playing then as an alt to take a break from your main, you can make them just as deadly as any other character in the game, even though they are fully invested in crafting. Plus, if you did things right while leveling, your combat skills should be leveled, at least to Morph stage.