WE WANT BALANCE!!!

TheHsN · September 2016

hi everyone...

i open this thread to take some attention from ZOS that

"WE WANT BALANCE"

if u really think that there isnt BALANCE in the game pls just push agree... Maybe we can take more attention to DEVS ... It is just simple...

Armitas · September 2016

Agree farm?

Darlon · September 2016

Why do people always say 'we' when they actually mean 'I' ?

Pallio · September 2016

If by balance, you mean a balance of dropping the handful of useful items/traits that people actually want, yes. PvP whines of balance, no nobody cares what killed you last or that you have not figured out how to play your chosen build.

Ankael07 · September 2016

I just want perfect imbalance. Not this rollercoaster going between magicka and stamina in a single patch

Armitas · September 2016

Ankael07 wrote: »

I just want perfect imbalance. Not this rollercoaster going between magicka and stamina in a single patch

When does the roller coaster stop falling?

Sublime · September 2016

Are you talking about PvE or PvP?

If PvP, I just wanted to say that the current game feels a lot more balanced than 5-6 months ago. Every class can be played magicka or stamina based, on a +/- competitive level, there are no more moments where I'm like "oh it's just a XXX just ignore him"

Dracane · September 2016

Sublime wrote: »

Are you talking about PvE or PvP?

If PvP, I just wanted to say that the current game feels a lot more balanced than 5-6 months ago. Every class can be played magicka or stamina based, on a +/- competitive level, there are no more moments where I'm like "oh it's just a XXX just ignore him"

"Oh, it's a Templar, just ignore him"

Fixed that for you

STEVIL · September 2016

Which balance?

the one i like?

The one you like?

The one neither of us likes but three other people do so we are outnumbered?

balanced for duels?

Balance for small groups?

Balance for big honking open militias and armies?

Balance for PVE?

balance for PVP?

Balance for trials?

balanmced for MSA, VMSA, VHMSA?

Liofa · September 2016

I stopped reading after ''WE'' . Please use ''I'' instead . Thanks .

SHADOW2KK · September 2016

You talk for yourself OP, not for me.

Sublime · September 2016

Dracane wrote: »

Sublime wrote: »

Are you talking about PvE or PvP?

If PvP, I just wanted to say that the current game feels a lot more balanced than 5-6 months ago. Every class can be played magicka or stamina based, on a +/- competitive level, there are no more moments where I'm like "oh it's just a XXX just ignore him"

"Oh, it's a Templar, just ignore him"

Fixed that for you

Good luck killing somebody that gets healed by a templar.

Teridaxus · September 2016

Im the only one who think they should stop balancing since they will only make it worse again?

Father_X_Zombie · September 2016

What do we want?

BALANCE!

When do we want it?

NOW!

(Insert angry pitch fork mob here)

TheHsN · September 2016

Darlon wrote: »

Why do people always say 'we' when they actually mean 'I' ?

Cuz i kbnow that there are people and when it is plural it is WE...:).. and as u see on agrees it is we:)...if u dont wanna support it is ok but pls be kind.

TheHsN · September 2016

SHADOW2KK wrote: »

You talk for yourself OP, not for me.

i said if u are agree already... and as u say it is plural cuz i open thread that "WE" wanted with some of my guild mates.

TheHsN · September 2016

And pls People i just Said "WE" it is cuz of i know people on my guild want me to open this thread and i see many people on the forum so IT IS PLURAL... thats why i use "we" ...maybe u are not from those people u dont want BALANCE so it is ok...But dont dirt here ok...

SHADOW2KK · September 2016

TheHsN wrote: »

SHADOW2KK wrote: »

You talk for yourself OP, not for me.

i said if u are agree already... and as u say it is plural cuz i open thread that "WE" wanted with some of my guild mates.

Well after discerning your post, maybe it would have been easier to have said that in your OP or at least in title.

The game will never be balanced properly, too many opinions, too many different opinons, its a never ending battle.

Tonnopesce · September 2016

Father_X_Zombie wrote: »

What do we want?

BALANCE!

When do we want it?

NOW!

(Insert angry pitch fork mob here)

What we can give up in order to obtain it?

....
*The people go away

Forestd16b14_ESO · September 2016

First off there is no we.

Second off if this is another nerf stamina thread shut it down already.

Third off this game will never be balanced or 100% balanced being realistic cause no game is ever 100% balanced but never a less this game will never be 85% balanced as long as Wrobel is in charge of combat design.

altemriel · September 2016

STEVIL wrote: »

Which balance?

the one i like?

The one you like?

The one neither of us likes but three other people do so we are outnumbered?

balanced for duels?

Balance for small groups?

Balance for big honking open militias and armies?

Balance for PVE?

balance for PVP?

Balance for trials?

balanmced for MSA, VMSA, VHMSA?

yes, I would also see some more concrete proposals from the OP

Edgar_Baerland · September 2016

This game is incredibly fun. It's the most 'balanced' I've ever seen it. There is a vast array of build possibilities and the game keeps getting better with more viability, in my opinion. Stam sorcs are a real thing now. Templars can actually pick more roles than just healer. DKs can tank or dps stam or magicka and be great either way. NBs are truly deadly and hard to pin down, the way a 'rogue' probably should be.

There really is so much to do and so many possibilities and choices for players. Don't like Champion point advantages? play on CP-less pvp server.

My hat's off to Zeni. Everyone wants to sling *** and say OMG HAX NERF OP BS DAMMIT WROBEL but even though I'll do some grumbling when I get zerged or ganked by stacked attacks/macros whatever the heck is going on, I'm really enjoying the game and have seen so many different types of builds be very strong these days. It's one of the most creative MMOs i've ever seen from that perspective.

So before you scream for 'balance', take a look around. The game is pretty damn balanced. Sure, nothing will ever be purely even on all sides. If it were, it'd be boring as hell. But it's pretty damn close. If you want to make a strong competitive character, you can. It might take some patience and some tweaking, but nearly everything is viable.

Truth is it's not the game that's making the tables feel unbalanced. It's the player

Rilmarshim · September 2016

Totaly balanced game will be boring. There is always must be some broken stuff to make the game more challenging.

Bryanonymous · September 2016

So many replies over the word 'we', lmao. If one person agrees with the OP, then his choice of words were completely fair. Lighten up grammar nazis.

Dymence · September 2016

Very constructive thread 10/10 would read again

Forestd16b14_ESO · September 2016

Dr_Talos wrote: »

Totaly balanced game will be boring. There is always must be some broken stuff to make the game more challenging.

That maybe true but when a game is to broken then it becomes frustrating and it doesn't help that those broken stuff becomes even more broken from cheaters exploiting it.

TheHsN · September 2016

tnx everyone who answered...

Paneross · September 2016

If you mean bringing magicka builds up to stam builds tier then yes.

Bislobo · September 2016

Armitas wrote: »

Agree farm?

Agree farm from an agree farm?

vamp_emily · September 2016

I am sure nobody else wants this, so I will not use "WE".

I WANT ALLIANCE WARS BALANCE. NO REASON TO HAVE 1 BAR AGAINST A POP LOCK.

DHale · September 2016

Balance is vague and subjective. Means different things to different people. Who is the determinant of balance. You, me, forum warriors, or ZOS with the great track record. When you say balance what does that mean to to you? When people say Black rose is OP I think no why don't we have a magic version of it. To me balance does not mean nerfs it means bringing magic up to the level of Stamina not nerfing any stamina. Stamina is fine where it is.