Icereach PC NA (Mulaamnir/Kyne/BWB NA PC - Final)

Vyle_Byte · September 2016

vamp_emily wrote: »

It seemed like the small fights around the center ( not Molag Bal ) were dropping more stuff. I would think the Molag Bal fight would give me good stuff.

I had her drop my group and join the other group which was 10 players. ( she counted the names in the group ). Something just didn't seem right. She is a tank and I am a healer. I told her try to do more damage but I don't really see how we didn't get really anything at all when fighting MB.

Only the top 12 damage dealers get loot and then most of the time that loot is junk, only rarely will you get a nice drop and that is the scamp, the skin and maybe one of those tri runes. The system is wack lol. The portals around the center are really the most lucrative.

Stridig · September 2016

It's been a pretty rough last couple of months. I switched to AD a few months back because of all the DC wins. Now I have an EP player because of all the AD population. Just seems like there is no fun to be had no matter what alliance I play. DC really has 1 large organized guild to work with. AD has about 3 million people on around the clock. And EP just seems to have no hope at all. Pretty sad.

ȽσƦÐŞσƦѦ · September 2016

Stridig wrote: »

AD has about 3 million people on around the clock.

Last night AD was pop locked in every single campaign lol.

Adenoma · September 2016

This community is getting toxic enough that it makes me want to go back to vet. Time to do Undaunted grind, I guess...

Avenias · September 2016

CURRENT SCORE-

AD- 6149
DC-3973
EP- who cares

2days 22hrs remaining.

Keep up the good work AD!!! we will win again! We are the best! AD POWAHH!

Stridig · September 2016

Avenias wrote: »

CURRENT SCORE-

AD- 6149
DC-3973
EP- who cares

2days 22hrs remaining.

Keep up the good work AD!!! we will win again! We are the best! AD POWAHH!

This just cracks me up. Coming from a Zerger. And certain EP care about their score. They are not beneath anybody because of a game. Get over yourself.

Sreja_Bone · September 2016

EP is an entirely different experience. Had some successes early in the day, sauce was doing some smart stuff with pugs.

Things really seem to fall apart once you get through the outer, no one (figuratively, but nearly literally) wants to rez, and siege goes up really slow. If you get a take, or a defense, reps are like rezzes, like pulling teeth, and the folks yelling rep don't rep themselves. It's almost like the more people in one place, the worse it gets.

Also, after playing red a bit while AD has emp, I can assure everyone that a lot of blue action in the northeast against EP does absolutely nothing to further dethroning; it only makes it worse to hit bleakers and chal while red does it's level best at Alessia. Never saw a red move against DC on the ring or at their tri's, but we got pulled back to aleswell, bleaks, and chal, which let AD get unbottled at Aless. Just wrongheaded. Early in the day though, might of been just randoms. Benefit of the doubt.

Btw, did Sauce come over from AD to help? I seem to remember the name, but can't recall from where. Gregg I know did, but don't see many others save for Stridig.

Dysturbedfan · September 2016

vamp_emily wrote: »

Dysturbedfan wrote: »

Any BWB or maybe other IC stories anyone wanna share . I'm curious about everyone's adventures in the under dark of the city meh runes Dagon makes his female dog many years from now.

Well I do have a question.

Yesterday, my friend and I went and helped kill/farm Molag Bal ( we killed him around 5 times ) in IC. We weren't really getting any drops. I'm not sure what she was getting, but most times I was only getting a few key fragments and that is it and she said she was getting nothing. I counted the people there and it only seemed to be around 10 maybe 12.

Is this normal? Or should I have been getting better drops?

It seemed like the small fights around the center ( not Molag Bal ) were dropping more stuff. I would think the Molag Bal fight would give me good stuff.

I had her drop my group and join the other group which was 10 players. ( she counted the names in the group ). Something just didn't seem right. She is a tank and I am a healer. I told her try to do more damage but I don't really see how we didn't get really anything at all when fighting MB.

Lately for me it's only a couple of people , we usually hit Molag in AS or TF ,we've done him about 30-50 times now, and I've gotten the scamp only 3 times now. The drops are kinda rare and not everyone gets loot. Some might get a trophy and 3-30 gold, other have gotten random colored loot, the mini bosses before him dropped more stuff than him, giving me almost every time a random green colored set ( like the healer set or the rage set) . I think it varies and luck

Dysturbedfan · September 2016

gadrïïr wrote: »

ChapterMasterV wrote: »

Just to anyone who finds 12 man groups to be a zerg: go to vet a campaign sometime, sometimes up to 100 people run together. Though I will admit, getting run over by a 12 man group as solo or even duo is still annoying. Just trying to put it in perspective.

The only two people I've even seen on this forum say 12 man zergs are yourself, and the dude I quoted in my last post. My good friend said that guild is running "multiple 12 man groups" which is obviously a zerg when they're communicating together through voice chat. I'm not really sure why that's so hard to understand. Also to add another point, that guild has enough people on to run 4 large groups at a time quite often. I'm willing to bet that they are actually not 12 man groups, but 24 man groups, just that they are splitting up the group in half to try to control the whole IC map, and 100% communicating through voice chat with each other while doing so. If you don't consider that a zerg then IDK what to tell you. Another thing. I play vet campaigns at least once a day for about an hour, or two. I know how they are. The difference between those vet campaigns, and BWB is the fact that in those vet campaigns the population is a lot closer, and all the factions zerg, not just one making it at least a fair fight. In BWB there is only one faction that zergs the map to death, and that's clearly AD who has at times 4 large groups all running, and communicating with each other through voice chat. You say getting run over by a 12 man group while solo, or duo is annoying. You wanna know what's more annoying? Try getting run over by 60+ people while solo, or duo while your faction has about 20 total people on at the same time. Just trying to put it in perspective

To be fare salty sandy Sally's by the sea shore, iote has at times only 5-7 people in discord when running ic, most of the time not many guiltiest join up with us, so we shout in zone to get pugs. There aren't many guiltiest that make up our groups, we have trouble just filling up one group with solid members ,the remaining *** are filled up with random pugs.We don't spit up, we all go to in place, and it is possible to wipe us, because we have been wiped by the FMC , and hero and subatomics. Iote dosent go into the BWB sewers. They usually hold it in TF or AS so they don't level out their BWB Alts . As for the BWB map, we all don't communicate with groups , of other groups wanna fight with is, they whisper Brandon or Brandon joins their voip, but it's usually only him.

Dysturbedfan · September 2016

Stridig wrote: »

Avenias wrote: »

CURRENT SCORE-

AD- 6149
DC-3973
EP- who cares

2days 22hrs remaining.

Keep up the good work AD!!! we will win again! We are the best! AD POWAHH!

This just cracks me up. Coming from a Zerger. And certain EP care about their score. They are not beneath anybody because of a game. Get over yourself.

Woah woah woah negative Nancy

there's salt in my eye now ;-; you just gotta read that and think of ......
Sodium Hypobromite…

NaBro

I'll leave XD

Dysturbedfan · September 2016

Off topic, but I can't contain my self....... HAS ANYONE SEEN SWEENEY TODD ON NETFLIX OH MY GOD THAT MOVIE IS A MASTERPIECE WHAT HAVE I BEEN DOING WITH MY LIFE. I recommend it

Dysturbedfan · September 2016

Sorry I have no life , but what's a better set for a Mag blade , Juliannos or transfutation. The trans set is nice because I get the heal passive from swallow soul on my self

Freakquent · September 2016

Dysturbedfan wrote: »

Sorry I have no life , but what's a better set for a Mag blade , Juliannos or transfutation. The trans set is nice because I get the heal passive from swallow soul on my self

Julianos for damage, Trans for sustain. Or Kags for both.

Adenoma · September 2016

All of those options are meh. Much better options exist. Depends on being destro/resto or dw/resto.

Avenias · September 2016

Stridig wrote: »

Avenias wrote: »

CURRENT SCORE-

AD- 6149
DC-3973
EP- who cares

2days 22hrs remaining.

Keep up the good work AD!!! we will win again! We are the best! AD POWAHH!

This just cracks me up. Coming from a Zerger. And certain EP care about their score. They are not beneath anybody because of a game. Get over yourself.

WE ARE THE CHAMPIONS.....WE ARE THE CHAMPIONS....(cant continue next part of song cos of our pc police forum moderators)..COS WE ARE THE CHAMPIONS......OF THE WORLD!

Like it or not, we rule BWB!

Dysturbedfan · September 2016

Adenoma wrote: »

All of those options are meh. Much better options exist. Depends on being destro/resto or dw/resto.

Currently running 5 piece bahara s for extra snare , it's a cc dot
Spam build with ice clench and swallow soul as the main damage as their locked in place with no Stam. Soul beam and soul tether as ultimate . Currently at 2.1 k spell damage , going apprentice stone divines . The trans sets helps because it profs with swallow soul and entropy. But having more spell
Damage would be a
Plus I'd trade for

Stridig · September 2016

I had hope.... But it appears as though the campaign is finally dead. At least for now.

W0lf_z13 · September 2016

yeah i was saying the same thing earlier stridig....

ChapterMasterV · September 2016

I remember when Brandon started IOTE he was always saying "we will change BWB," and he did, but it is not for the better. The majority of the good players on AD don't want to play something so blatantly one sided, and most want a challenge. The majority of us have switched to vet campaigns until BWB becomes fun again, and honestly, I don't see that happening anytime soon. And to the people on AD who come into this forum just to brag and put down the other alliances: YOU are the problems, and it means nothing to win when you have a huge advantage, it doesn't prove that you are better, just that you are a poor winner, and have never had to face an actually challenge in this game. I hope BWB becomes fun again soon, because I love the community and the people there, (even the players I hate I love, as they are part of the feeling of BWB, and it would feel wrong if they were gone) and it is my favorite campaign, and the most challenging, (when not being zerged down) but I am not keeping my hopes up.

Vyle_Byte · September 2016

ChapterMasterV wrote: »

I remember when Brandon started IOTE he was always saying "we will change BWB," and he did, but it is not for the better. The majority of the good players on AD don't want to play something so blatantly one sided, and most want a challenge. The majority of us have switched to vet campaigns until BWB becomes fun again, and honestly, I don't see that happening anytime soon. And to the people on AD who come into this forum just to brag and put down the other alliances: YOU are the problems, and it means nothing to win when you have a huge advantage, it doesn't prove that you are better, just that you are a poor winner, and have never had to face an actually challenge in this game. I hope BWB becomes fun again soon, because I love the community and the people there, (even the players I hate I love, as they are part of the feeling of BWB, and it would feel wrong if they were gone) and it is my favorite campaign, and the most challenging, (when not being zerged down) but I am not keeping my hopes up.

Well said Alex, well said.

EdmundTowers · September 2016

ChapterMasterV wrote: »

I remember when Brandon started IOTE he was always saying "we will change BWB," and he did, but it is not for the better. The majority of the good players on AD don't want to play something so blatantly one sided, and most want a challenge. The majority of us have switched to vet campaigns until BWB becomes fun again, and honestly, I don't see that happening anytime soon. And to the people on AD who come into this forum just to brag and put down the other alliances: YOU are the problems, and it means nothing to win when you have a huge advantage, it doesn't prove that you are better, just that you are a poor winner, and have never had to face an actually challenge in this game. I hope BWB becomes fun again soon, because I love the community and the people there, (even the players I hate I love, as they are part of the feeling of BWB, and it would feel wrong if they were gone) and it is my favorite campaign, and the most challenging, (when not being zerged down) but I am not keeping my hopes up.

You serious? Blaming the current state of the map on someone who hasn't been in BWB much the last two weeks...

ChapterMasterV · September 2016

EdmundTowers wrote: »

ChapterMasterV wrote: »

I remember when Brandon started IOTE he was always saying "we will change BWB," and he did, but it is not for the better. The majority of the good players on AD don't want to play something so blatantly one sided, and most want a challenge. The majority of us have switched to vet campaigns until BWB becomes fun again, and honestly, I don't see that happening anytime soon. And to the people on AD who come into this forum just to brag and put down the other alliances: YOU are the problems, and it means nothing to win when you have a huge advantage, it doesn't prove that you are better, just that you are a poor winner, and have never had to face an actually challenge in this game. I hope BWB becomes fun again soon, because I love the community and the people there, (even the players I hate I love, as they are part of the feeling of BWB, and it would feel wrong if they were gone) and it is my favorite campaign, and the most challenging, (when not being zerged down) but I am not keeping my hopes up.

You serious? Blaming the current state of the map on someone who hasn't been in BWB much the last two weeks...

I'm not blaming him, or saying he is the problem, just the catalyst.

Just_call_me_Cola · September 2016

ChapterMasterV wrote: »

I remember when Brandon started IOTE he was always saying "we will change BWB," and he did, but it is not for the better. .

pew pew pew.

Just_call_me_Cola · September 2016

ChapterMasterV wrote: »

EdmundTowers wrote: »

ChapterMasterV wrote: »

I remember when Brandon started IOTE he was always saying "we will change BWB," and he did, but it is not for the better. The majority of the good players on AD don't want to play something so blatantly one sided, and most want a challenge. The majority of us have switched to vet campaigns until BWB becomes fun again, and honestly, I don't see that happening anytime soon. And to the people on AD who come into this forum just to brag and put down the other alliances: YOU are the problems, and it means nothing to win when you have a huge advantage, it doesn't prove that you are better, just that you are a poor winner, and have never had to face an actually challenge in this game. I hope BWB becomes fun again soon, because I love the community and the people there, (even the players I hate I love, as they are part of the feeling of BWB, and it would feel wrong if they were gone) and it is my favorite campaign, and the most challenging, (when not being zerged down) but I am not keeping my hopes up.

You serious? Blaming the current state of the map on someone who hasn't been in BWB much the last two weeks...

I'm not blaming him, or saying he is the problem, just the catalyst.

AIRSTRIKE INCOMING!

Adenoma · September 2016

I don't think he's placing blame specifically with Branden - and I don't think that he's a problem. I think he's putting it more on the organization that's come out. IOTE does reliably have a larger group than either opposing alliance can muster. They do have pretty amazing control over the map. I would hate to be an AD emp right now - you'd be crowned and then barely have fights afterwards.

All that's happened lately is that the toxic components of BwB have gotten even more toxic and many of the old guard of BwB have become disillusioned and have stopped playing. I've been unable to play much ESO at all, but when I have gotten to login, I check the BwB map, see it's yellow, then log onto a vet toon for PvP. I haven't gotten my EP "balance" toon ready yet, but I'm not really enthusiastic about playing for another alliance - I'm only doing it because I want to actually have an opportunity to fight when I'm in BwB.

Stridig · September 2016

Opportunities are there if you are DC or EP. You just need to be willing to fight 15 or 20 AD at any random resource on the map. AP must be terrible these days.

Dysturbedfan · September 2016

ChapterMasterV wrote: »

I remember when Brandon started IOTE he was always saying "we will change BWB," and he did, but it is not for the better. The majority of the good players on AD don't want to play something so blatantly one sided, and most want a challenge. The majority of us have switched to vet campaigns until BWB becomes fun again, and honestly, I don't see that happening anytime soon. And to the people on AD who come into this forum just to brag and put down the other alliances: YOU are the problems, and it means nothing to win when you have a huge advantage, it doesn't prove that you are better, just that you are a poor winner, and have never had to face an actually challenge in this game. I hope BWB becomes fun again soon, because I love the community and the people there, (even the players I hate I love, as they are part of the feeling of BWB, and it would feel wrong if they were gone) and it is my favorite campaign, and the most challenging, (when not being zerged down) but I am not keeping my hopes up.

Woah there mucho, iote isn't the only guild in AD.And one full group of people can only do so much , putting the blame on iote for BWB is like saying Canada is sending drugs in the United States and ruining the youth . I actually haven't seen anything about the bragging lately , that was like 5-8 pages ago (safe for that troll trying to start stuff) the forums have been pretty mellow lately, it's posts like this that stir up controversy ......... So demonetized from YouTube lol ,(YouTube joke if you didint get it)

Sreja_Bone · September 2016

A few strong small group (between 6 and 10) harassers would go a long way to helping EP. There are strong players in EP, but not groups of strong players out flagging and running, making the raids chase them. Not much AP in that, but I bet it would at least help in frustrating big pushes. May be a naive belief, but there it is.

Adenoma · September 2016

When I have time to PvP a bit and I'm off my surgery rotation, I'll lead some GoNB members on EP. We've rolled EP just for balance's sake - I do not want to be a multifaction guild or person and I intend on playing until vet on this red abomination and promptly deleting him. If others who are not in GoNB want to coordinate with me or run in my group when I'm online, they're happily welcome. I may even run an EP zerg if I get frustrated enough.

All this said, I've got 6 weeks left of cutting and sewing. I'm hoping that things have sorted out by then and the campaign is a bit more healthy so I can just go ahead and delete the infidel.

DeadlyRecluse · September 2016

Stridig wrote: »

Opportunities are there if you are DC or EP. You just need to be willing to fight 15 or 20 AD at any random resource on the map. AP must be terrible these days.

Literally best post 2016.