Then stamina needs the equivalent of Lich, Warlock set etc. IMO mirror sets are the stupidest thing that can happen.

Humatiel wrote: »

susmitds wrote: »

Then stamina needs the equivalent of Lich, Warlock set etc. IMO mirror sets are the stupidest thing that can happen.

We'll talk stamina based warlock sets when Stamina users cant hang out at 5200 weapon dmg with a vma weapon.

Then we can talk stamina mirror sets when magicka users can't hang out with 70k magicka with necropotence and imperial physique.

We have to be Honest, Magicka really isn't up to par with Stamina in PvE and PvP. And giving Stamina sets like those while giving Magicka nothing close to them or worse versions just makes the gap bigger.

On the one side i really See your problem s with the sets but I think stamina and magicka have the best sets to counter each other. Stamina has a high burst potential which is good against light armour players. Magicka on the other hand have many DoT sets which can't be purged by a stam Player

Mashille wrote: »

Magicka needs Equivalent sets of the Automaton that gives 386 Spell Damage to all Magic Damage.

It also needs an Equivalent to the Skeleton Set which gives Max Stamina and Stamina Recovery if you have a drink buff, where it grants Max Mag and Mag recovery if you have a Drink buff.

And how this set is good? Almost all stamina skills now deal mixed damage between poison phisical and disease, hounding rage already outperforms this set unless you do a very specific build that imho is not going to work

Same thing for magika that have all the elements + magika, imho Julianos is better

Mashille wrote: »

@Tonnopesce

Physical is the main area for Stamina Damage.

All 2H Abilities.

All DW Abilities.

All 1H+S Abilities.

Surprise Attack, Hurricane and a few others.

However Magicka users sets that are far more specific such as '386 Spell damage for Shock', '386 Spell damage for Ice' which, due to being more specific are flat out worse.

With my nb i use most disease + poison and phisical is just on 3 skills out of 10 even the widomaker or the velidreth that i use are not affected by phisical damage, this set does not grant you more healing or more damage is just a meh set and a waste of 5 pcs.

For the other one... Amberplasm is already better.

There are some cool magicka options in PVP but with specific set boxes and stamina being kings there doesn't seem to be much cyro light, desert rose, elfborn, etc hitting the guild vendors. Plenty of DKSlayer, viper, skirmisher, marksman, etc. Even some MT and Ravager being posted or called out in capital city.

Agility rings are expensive, but they're pretty easily replaced in PVP and PVE by 5 pcs sets. I'd bet WP is more common in Cyro due to lack of access and options, while I'd also bet magicka is the minority.

Many magicka sets are more class specific. Channels, Fire, Lighting compared to Physical and Poison. CP effects them all but specific class and races gain more then others.

Another issue is that magicka gear is spread across DPS and Healing. There's a lot of regen sets, and 5 pcs heals or sheild other, etc. bonuses. Stam pretty much has DPS. Tank seems to have its own category, yet stam still has a number of hvy armor dps options. A few Magicka hvy armor options have been and are being converted to simply Tanking gear.

Reading the patch notes it seems like it's going to be harder to get the jewelry you want at the quality you want unless you farm Trials or PVP ... so there's that. Get it while you can or farm it yourself later.

susmitds wrote: »

Then stamina needs the equivalent of Lich, Warlock set etc. IMO mirror sets are the stupidest thing that can happen.

I can suggest some stam regen options if you really want a regen build and they'll cost you far less then Lich. PVE or PVP?

Gear doesn't have to be mirror. The 1-4 pcs are going to need to be similar if you want to build diversity. The 5th pc bonuses just need to be balanced, and the gear has to be equally accessible.

susmitds wrote: »

Humatiel wrote: »

susmitds wrote: »

Then stamina needs the equivalent of Lich, Warlock set etc. IMO mirror sets are the stupidest thing that can happen.

We'll talk stamina based warlock sets when Stamina users cant hang out at 5200 weapon dmg with a vma weapon.

Then we can talk stamina mirror sets when magicka users can't hang out with 70k magicka with necropotence and imperial physique.

Stamina builds can reach 70k max stamina just fine.

Stamina is too strong, its only getting stronger with the new gearing options while magicka is basically getting the shaft again.

Mashille wrote: »

@Tonnopesce

Physical is the main area for Stamina Damage.

All 2H Abilities.

All DW Abilities.

All 1H+S Abilities.

Surprise Attack, Hurricane and a few others.

However Magicka users sets that are far more specific such as '386 Spell damage for Shock', '386 Spell damage for Ice' which, due to being more specific are flat out worse.

^This. The best part is that they didn't even do a 386 spell damage to flame or magic damage which is what the majority of all magical damage classes use. Instead they gave magicka users a 386 spell damage to destruction staff abilities which is just another slap in the face to magicka users.

EDIT: I forgot that there was even a 386 spell damage to restoration staff abilities set. Check out my heal deeps!