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Lowbies and CP People in Cyrodiil - Give Lowbies a Break

  • zuto40
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    Let a lowbie live in Ic once, he was alone, I walk passed him harness dropped for 1 second and instantly hit with a 12k incap, hardest I've ever been hit by one before, battle leveling does just fine in making lowbies strong
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  • mchermie
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  • KenaPKK
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    Removing cross faction communication and locking your account to a campaign cycle would help with bringing in low levels. My guild invites low levels to join our guild to experience raiding but they are a liability with Vicious Death/Steath det bombs when you have players messaging the other faction with location and group composition. Take the recent 50,000k TV grief in IC. A group member cross faction messaging a streamer to setup a bomb to his own group/faction to score good boy points. That should be a permaban for both of them.

    The PvP mechanics for Cyrodil have such potential but the factions in current form are meaningless. A guild reputation system that rewarded faction loyalty would help but we're instead jumping the shark with housing and dank duels. /yawn. At least spellcrafting is still not completely dead.

    You talk like people don't do that kind of stuff during war. Open your eyes and toughen up man.
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  • KenaPKK
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    Rylana wrote: »
    Last week a DR 10 man group ran into a baby level 14 outside of Alessia.

    We surrounded it and said "dance or die"

    They danced. We danced back and a couple people did a bow.

    We proceeded on our merry way, leaving it alive, never saw it again.

    However if it had attacked us or been part of a group attacking us, id have shown it no mercy.

    I love this! :D
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  • God_flakes
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    KenaPKK wrote: »
    Removing cross faction communication and locking your account to a campaign cycle would help with bringing in low levels. My guild invites low levels to join our guild to experience raiding but they are a liability with Vicious Death/Steath det bombs when you have players messaging the other faction with location and group composition. Take the recent 50,000k TV grief in IC. A group member cross faction messaging a streamer to setup a bomb to his own group/faction to score good boy points. That should be a permaban for both of them.

    The PvP mechanics for Cyrodil have such potential but the factions in current form are meaningless. A guild reputation system that rewarded faction loyalty would help but we're instead jumping the shark with housing and dank duels. /yawn. At least spellcrafting is still not completely dead.

    You talk like people don't do that kind of stuff during war. Open your eyes and toughen up man.

    We can start comparing this to real war when certain players can be court martialed for their behavior. Until then, this is still just a game and it's "ok" to suggest ways to make it more difficult for people to carry out that behavior.
    Edited by God_flakes on September 2, 2016 4:54PM
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  • KenaPKK
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    God_flakes wrote: »
    KenaPKK wrote: »
    Removing cross faction communication and locking your account to a campaign cycle would help with bringing in low levels. My guild invites low levels to join our guild to experience raiding but they are a liability with Vicious Death/Steath det bombs when you have players messaging the other faction with location and group composition. Take the recent 50,000k TV grief in IC. A group member cross faction messaging a streamer to setup a bomb to his own group/faction to score good boy points. That should be a permaban for both of them.

    The PvP mechanics for Cyrodil have such potential but the factions in current form are meaningless. A guild reputation system that rewarded faction loyalty would help but we're instead jumping the shark with housing and dank duels. /yawn. At least spellcrafting is still not completely dead.

    You talk like people don't do that kind of stuff during war. Open your eyes and toughen up man.

    We can start comparing this to real war when certain players can be court martialed for their behavior. Until then, this is still just a game and it's "ok" to suggest ways to make it more difficult for people to carry out that behavior.

    That's not how it works, Jariel.

    This is an open war simulator, plain and simple. This war just happens to have a weak court martial system. It has fewer rules than you or I would like, and WAY fewer than that guy would like. You need to open your eyes as well.

    Also, "that behavior," as you call it, referring to his comment regarding cross faction cooperation, isn't cheating in any way shape or form and is not related to CE. Don't try to draw a similarity between the two. One is fair play, albeit shady, and one is outright cheating and hacking the game.
    Edited by KenaPKK on September 3, 2016 7:59AM
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  • PeggymoeXD
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    It's PvP. You know the risks going in.
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  • Volrion
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    NBrookus wrote: »
    I leave lowbies alone, but they always seem to attack anyway. My favorite so far was stumbling across three level 15 sorcs. I stopped, waved at them, and mounted to ride away. They attacked. With just their scamps and lightning staffs. I killed them... then got rage tells that I was a bully. :/
    God_flakes wrote: »
    Or my personal favorite: let's cap this far northern keep of this underpopulated faction and lure ones and twos and unorganized groups of noobs up there and farm them and hee hee and haw haw in ts and then slap eachother on the backs cuz wersogud! We haz so much farming!

    I dunno, I usually see that as a "come fight me" sign hung on the map. Sometimes you get zerged down, but often I just find someone looking for a good fight.

    Had a similar situation two days ago on my MagNightblade...

    Three guys (cp 60-120) were farming in the sewers.

    I popped out out stealth to play them a lovely tune on my favorite lute.

    All three attacked.

    So I cloaked, and disappeared.

    I crept in the shadows for a while, watching as they eventually grew tired of searching, and continued on their grind.

    The next thing they saw was a screen of blue flame and a death recap :D

    It was beautiful.

    Within a minute I'd been invited to a party (which I declined) then spammed with a few pms.

    I replied with an apology for nuking them... And I left them be after that.

    I had a good chuckle.
  • God_flakes
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    KenaPKK wrote: »
    God_flakes wrote: »
    KenaPKK wrote: »
    Removing cross faction communication and locking your account to a campaign cycle would help with bringing in low levels. My guild invites low levels to join our guild to experience raiding but they are a liability with Vicious Death/Steath det bombs when you have players messaging the other faction with location and group composition. Take the recent 50,000k TV grief in IC. A group member cross faction messaging a streamer to setup a bomb to his own group/faction to score good boy points. That should be a permaban for both of them.

    The PvP mechanics for Cyrodil have such potential but the factions in current form are meaningless. A guild reputation system that rewarded faction loyalty would help but we're instead jumping the shark with housing and dank duels. /yawn. At least spellcrafting is still not completely dead.

    You talk like people don't do that kind of stuff during war. Open your eyes and toughen up man.

    We can start comparing this to real war when certain players can be court martialed for their behavior. Until then, this is still just a game and it's "ok" to suggest ways to make it more difficult for people to carry out that behavior.

    That's not how it works, Jariel.

    This is an open war simulator, plain and simple. This war just happens to have a weak court martial system. It has fewer rules than you or I would like, and WAY fewer than that guy would like. You need to open your eyes as well.

    Also, "that behavior," as you call it, referring to his comment regarding cross faction cooperation, isn't cheating in any way shape or form and is not related to CE. Don't try to draw a similarity between the two. One is fair play, albeit shady, and one is outright cheating and hacking the game.

    Did I say it was cheating or even close? I personally don't have an issue with cross faction communication or even spies. I was merely saying it's ok for people to brainstorm idea and ways to counter it. After all, it is being so badly abused in this game. If faction swapping was being used in constructive ways (to spy and simply infiltrate) I think most people wouldn't even know and therefore wouldn't have a problem. The issue, like anything else in this game, is the players themselves. They always have to ruin a good thing. We now have entire guilds faction swapping to come into a campaign to do unhelpful and trollish things to deliberately hurt that faction and then they sit there and troll and are disruptive in zone and mock and undermine any players trying to use zone to communicate. It's like an elementary school playground some night. Smfh.
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  • Serjustin19
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    Ghostbane wrote: »
    Also after being zerged down, and they didn't even look in my direction, let alone contribute, and they teabag me, I will remember. When they have saved up that 50k AP to buy that Morag Tong prosperus shoulder, I will be there.

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  • Omgwtfbbq321
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    Sometimes I charge full mount speed at lowbies, making them try to run away on their slower rides. When I catch them, I circle them 3 times and get off just to play the cheer emote.

    If I kill a low level that attacks me, I normally message them with tips or offer help if they need it. I remember what it was like my first few times in Cyrodiil, it can be a frustrating experience.
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