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  • ManwithBeard9
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    Weapon ults are just going to make stam stronger. 4 stam ultis. One dps magicka ulti, one heal/buff/protect resto ulti.

    This meta is depressing

    Don't worry, I'm sure at least half of the new ultimates won't be worth using. If they can at least make the destro/resto ultimates some of the good ones, then it should balance out alright. Plus, some of the ultimates could end up being more of a buff/defensive/utility kind of thing that would benefit Magicka and Stamina equally (wouldn't be surprised to see something like the from the One Hand and Shield skill line, which lots of Magicka builds use.)

    I hope it's not a buff for resto/destro. Mag sorcs have ENOUGH toggles.

    Sounds like sorcs need some toggles for their toggles.
  • Baconlad
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    There NEEDS to be a buff to staves...templars are kinda at a disadvantage compared to other classes. At least maybe I'm wrong...but I've tried staff builds and they don't make sense to drop DW for destro. Needs a buff...and a balance at least to make the elements even. Fire staff is too strong
  • leepalmer95
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    Baconlad wrote: »
    There NEEDS to be a buff to staves...templars are kinda at a disadvantage compared to other classes. At least maybe I'm wrong...but I've tried staff builds and they don't make sense to drop DW for destro. Needs a buff...and a balance at least to make the elements even. Fire staff is too strong

    Why does a buff to staves affect templars? Templar are one of the few classes that can use anything weapon, they have a hard hitting ranged skill, a very good melee skill. Staves have nothing to do with templars.
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  • Tannus15
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    What I'm really hoping for is all 2 handed weapons counting as 2 parts of a set so that no matter what build you chose you can get 5/5/2

    2 handed builds are always weaker due to the lack of set bonuses
  • PURPLE245
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    Mady wrote: »
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    ZOS communication 10/10

    They are on the way to PAX West. Stop crying. :|

    pretty sure they have more staff?surely the other staff could post something like when they will be up ect so people eu time zones can know if its worth waiting a few more hours or go sleep and its not crying its being impatient :/
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  • Neoauspex
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    Sword n Board ultimate - reflects stuns
    2H ultimate - reflects jesus beam
    DW ultimate - automatically posts a "nerf jesus beam" thread to the forums
    Destro staff ultimate - break free actually works
    Resto staff ultimate - nearby enemies that use vigor have all the weapons in their inventory converted into resto staves
  • Baconlad
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    Wait wait wait...theyre on the way to pax, but they're being held responsible to ensure the game PTS is launched? Sounds like a plateful
  • arkansas_ESO
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    2 handed builds are always weaker due to the lack of set bonuses

    If this was true then Cyrodiil wouldn't be filled to the brim with people running 2H/bow and destro/resto, but it is.


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  • Jsmalls
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    I'm very interested in the weapon ultimates, but considering you won't gain any passives from slotting them like other ultimates (dawnbreaker, meteor, many class ultimates, barrier, etc etc etc) I feel as if they Will be pushed to the side, but I guess we'll see.
    Edited by Jsmalls on September 2, 2016 1:19AM
  • SanTii.92
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    I'm very interested in the weapon ultimates, but considering you won't gain any passives from slotting them like other ultimates (dawnbreaker, meteor, many class ultimates, barrier, etc etc etc) I feel as if they Will be pushed to the side, but I guess we'll see.

    nah, that's not a problem per se. Just depends how strong they are. Personally I think they'll be op af.
    Edited by SanTii.92 on September 2, 2016 1:30AM
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  • Taleof2Cities
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  • maxjapank
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    Baconlad wrote: »
    There NEEDS to be a buff to staves...templars are kinda at a disadvantage compared to other classes. At least maybe I'm wrong...but I've tried staff builds and they don't make sense to drop DW for destro. Needs a buff...and a balance at least to make the elements even. Fire staff is too strong

    Why does a buff to staves affect templars? Templar are one of the few classes that can use anything weapon, they have a hard hitting ranged skill, a very good melee skill. Staves have nothing to do with templars.

    Staves are useful for Magicka return.
  • potirondb16_ESO
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    Loll a late call check for update would be appreciate... no intetention to speak german !
  • leepalmer95
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    maxjapank wrote: »
    Baconlad wrote: »
    There NEEDS to be a buff to staves...templars are kinda at a disadvantage compared to other classes. At least maybe I'm wrong...but I've tried staff builds and they don't make sense to drop DW for destro. Needs a buff...and a balance at least to make the elements even. Fire staff is too strong

    Why does a buff to staves affect templars? Templar are one of the few classes that can use anything weapon, they have a hard hitting ranged skill, a very good melee skill. Staves have nothing to do with templars.

    Staves are useful for Magicka return.

    So is rune, rune = 480 magicka recovery in pvp.

    Resources are so easy to manage,

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    Current CP : 756+

    I have every character level 50, both a magicka and stamina version.


    RIP my effort to get 5x v16 characters...
  • OneKhajiitCrimeWave
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    Khajiit now has nothing to read at work. Dark moons and dull claws.

    *insert super sad cat gif here*
    Edited by OneKhajiitCrimeWave on September 2, 2016 2:11AM
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  • ADarklore
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    So is this extremely lengthy PTS maintenance to add Update 12 a precursor to what we can expect when it goes Live?!?
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  • Pangnirtung
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    ADarklore wrote: »
    So is this extremely lengthy PTS maintenance to add Update 12 a precursor to what we can expect when it goes Live?!?

    What is the urgency with the PTS?

    It's not like its a regular production server. Before this patch was about to go live did anyone really care about the PTS?

    I say take your time, do it right. No rush.
  • maxjapank
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    maxjapank wrote: »
    Baconlad wrote: »
    There NEEDS to be a buff to staves...templars are kinda at a disadvantage compared to other classes. At least maybe I'm wrong...but I've tried staff builds and they don't make sense to drop DW for destro. Needs a buff...and a balance at least to make the elements even. Fire staff is too strong

    Why does a buff to staves affect templars? Templar are one of the few classes that can use anything weapon, they have a hard hitting ranged skill, a very good melee skill. Staves have nothing to do with templars.

    Staves are useful for Magicka return.

    So is rune, rune = 480 magicka recovery in pvp.

    Resources are so easy to manage,

    But so are Staves. And Staves could be more useful for Magicka players. Quit being obtuse.
  • AzraelKrieg
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    ADarklore wrote: »
    So is this extremely lengthy PTS maintenance to add Update 12 a precursor to what we can expect when it goes Live?!?

    I think the lengthy process is due to a hitch and that some of the team are heading to PAX.
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  • SleepyTroll
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    I thought ZOS had like 300 employees, only one person who is capable of posting English patch notes is at PAX?
    That's sucks.
  • templesus
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    maxjapank wrote: »
    Baconlad wrote: »
    There NEEDS to be a buff to staves...templars are kinda at a disadvantage compared to other classes. At least maybe I'm wrong...but I've tried staff builds and they don't make sense to drop DW for destro. Needs a buff...and a balance at least to make the elements even. Fire staff is too strong

    Why does a buff to staves affect templars? Templar are one of the few classes that can use anything weapon, they have a hard hitting ranged skill, a very good melee skill. Staves have nothing to do with templars.

    Staves are useful for Magicka return.

    So is rune, rune = 480 magicka recovery in pvp.

    Resources are so easy to manage,

    I'm almost positive 85% of the community dislikes you. You don't need to weigh in on everything.
  • ZOS_GinaBruno
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    Oh man guys, deepest apologies for the delay here.

    Unfortunately we ran into an issue with the build for PTS, and maintenance will need to be extended until we can get things remedied. We'll give you an update as soon as we can tomorrow.
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  • leepalmer95
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    templesus wrote: »
    maxjapank wrote: »
    Baconlad wrote: »
    There NEEDS to be a buff to staves...templars are kinda at a disadvantage compared to other classes. At least maybe I'm wrong...but I've tried staff builds and they don't make sense to drop DW for destro. Needs a buff...and a balance at least to make the elements even. Fire staff is too strong

    Why does a buff to staves affect templars? Templar are one of the few classes that can use anything weapon, they have a hard hitting ranged skill, a very good melee skill. Staves have nothing to do with templars.

    Staves are useful for Magicka return.

    So is rune, rune = 480 magicka recovery in pvp.

    Resources are so easy to manage,

    I'm almost positive 85% of the community dislikes you. You don't need to weigh in on everything.

    Oh cool, random facts you pulled out of where? Let me rephrase that for you, YOU don't like me and to be honest i don't really care, who are you?
    maxjapank wrote: »
    Baconlad wrote: »
    There NEEDS to be a buff to staves...templars are kinda at a disadvantage compared to other classes. At least maybe I'm wrong...but I've tried staff builds and they don't make sense to drop DW for destro. Needs a buff...and a balance at least to make the elements even. Fire staff is too strong

    Why does a buff to staves affect templars? Templar are one of the few classes that can use anything weapon, they have a hard hitting ranged skill, a very good melee skill. Staves have nothing to do with templars.

    Staves are useful for Magicka return.

    So is rune, rune = 480 magicka recovery in pvp.

    Resources are so easy to manage,

    Your point what staves need to be buffed for templars? Why exactly? Other magicka classes need staves a lot more than templars, sorc rely on them, mag nb now needs them as dw is bad for them. Even mag dk could use the range as they have 0 good range skills.

    Mag templars are the only one who don't use staves, in fact dw/s&b is meta for mag plar because it's better.
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    I have every character level 50, both a magicka and stamina version.


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  • juhasman
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    Oh man guys, deepest apologies for the delay here.

    Unfortunately we ran into an issue with the build for PTS, and maintenance will need to be extended until we can get things remedied. We'll give you an update as soon as we can tomorrow.

    Give us atleast Natch Potes today :smile:
  • Aerius_Sygale
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    Oh man guys, deepest apologies for the delay here.

    Unfortunately we ran into an issue with the build for PTS, and maintenance will need to be extended until we can get things remedied. We'll give you an update as soon as we can tomorrow.

    Why am I not surprised, trying to apply a game changing major update to PTS while on the way to PAX West... One way or another, be it through patch notes or a panel at PAX West, I should find out more about Dueling tomorrow. Hope you have a blast at the event, @ZOS_GinaBruno ! ^w^
    Edited by Aerius_Sygale on September 2, 2016 2:44AM
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  • maxjapank
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    Your point what staves need to be buffed for templars? Why exactly? Other magicka classes need staves a lot more than templars, sorc rely on them, mag nb now needs them as dw is bad for them. Even mag dk could use the range as they have 0 good range skills.

    Mag templars are the only one who don't use staves, in fact dw/s&b is meta for mag plar because it's better.

    The guy has a legitimate argument. Why do you have to put down a good suggestion? Buffing Staves would be beneficial to all Magicka classes, and would allow Templars to use them rather than being pigeonholed into using dw. You may not agree, but there is nothing wrong with asking for a buff. And honestly no reason for you to argue against it. But...you can' help yourself??
  • AGrz5585
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    maxjapank wrote: »

    Your point what staves need to be buffed for templars? Why exactly? Other magicka classes need staves a lot more than templars, sorc rely on them, mag nb now needs them as dw is bad for them. Even mag dk could use the range as they have 0 good range skills.

    Mag templars are the only one who don't use staves, in fact dw/s&b is meta for mag plar because it's better.

    The guy has a legitimate argument. Why do you have to put down a good suggestion? Buffing Staves would be beneficial to all Magicka classes, and would allow Templars to use them rather than being pigeonholed into using dw. You may not agree, but there is nothing wrong with asking for a buff. And honestly no reason for you to argue against it. But...you can' help yourself??

    I would love to use staves on my magplar in pvp instead of just using jabs with dw/SnB.
  • Totalitarian
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    Oh man guys, deepest apologies for the delay here.

    Unfortunately we ran into an issue with the build for PTS, and maintenance will need to be extended until we can get things remedied. We'll give you an update as soon as we can tomorrow.

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  • leepalmer95
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    maxjapank wrote: »

    Your point what staves need to be buffed for templars? Why exactly? Other magicka classes need staves a lot more than templars, sorc rely on them, mag nb now needs them as dw is bad for them. Even mag dk could use the range as they have 0 good range skills.

    Mag templars are the only one who don't use staves, in fact dw/s&b is meta for mag plar because it's better.

    The guy has a legitimate argument. Why do you have to put down a good suggestion? Buffing Staves would be beneficial to all Magicka classes, and would allow Templars to use them rather than being pigeonholed into using dw. You may not agree, but there is nothing wrong with asking for a buff. And honestly no reason for you to argue against it. But...you can' help yourself??

    Did i say it's not a good idea? No the guy said templars NEED a staves buff, templars are at a disadvantage compare to other classes, which is just not true at all. I said out of all the magicka classes templars needs staves the least and are just fine without them.

    Honestly you say something bad about magplar and all the fotm magplars like you just jump on the bandwagon like the forum warriors you are, i can see why your bothered with your only class being a magplar. Are you one of those full hp beamer/ s&b healbot? This is why things can never be balanced, everyones wants their FOTM to stay strong.

    Anyway get back on topic and stop crying, gina said there will be nothing today everyone can leave now.
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