Imperial City festivity is a b (ust...

Rittings · August 2016

[snip] It does nothing for the average PvE player (whom I might add are the lifeblood and money behind this game's continued funding).

Great concept - but the capture the flag nonsense (which was applied on the whims of a single post on these forums) along with this latest pandering has done it for me. I won't be returning to the Imperial City anymore - and if I let my ESO+ lapse, I won't be purchasing this DLC - which was once a MUST HAVE but now is a MUST NEVER PLAY!

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milesrodneymcneely2_ESO · August 2016

Is it really that bad?

Pandorii · August 2016

This event isn't really for everyone. I'd recommend staying out of the sewers until the chaos subsides. What good is a double drop rate on skin and scamp if you're not getting a loot drop because you're not one of the top 12 dps? What good is double tel var gain if there's a ganker prowling every corner ready to steal them from you?

I've got my sights set for the halloween witch festival.

Try not to get too frustrated.That's how the IC ecosystem works. It's simply being amplified by the event.

Rittings · August 2016

Yeah it's really that bad.

It's never been great - but this, you're right, has made it worse. Just like the capture the flag bs that was introduced did. At least before that all the PVPers would hang out in the Arena district - now the d-baggery has been dissipated throughout the entire city.

We pay for this content - but can't use it. I'd love to go run the quests casually with my wife (we both have ESO+) but after a long horse ride from a random keep (since the other keeps are taken... don't get me even started on the fact you can pay for this content and have d-bags camping the entrances to stop you using what you paid for etc...) only to be ganked within seconds of trying to quest.

Its moronic. The devs need a rethink of this one...

1) You need to have a direct wayshrine into the sewer base.

2) There needs to be a strictly PVE only version of it.

Luigi_Vampa · August 2016

I had some good fun with five or so guildies today in the sewers, farming Molag, killing AD and EP. Getting bombed by Necrotic Lag. Good times. Sorry that not every dlc and event is for PvE players

Eleusian · August 2016

Imperial city =Yawn

DKsUnite · August 2016

Rittings wrote: »

It does nothing for the average PvE player (whom I might add are the lifeblood and money behind this game's continued funding).

Great concept - but the capture the flag nonsense (which was applied on the whims of a single post on these forums) along with this latest pandering has done it for me. I won't be returning to the Imperial City anymore - and if I let my ESO+ lapse, I won't be purchasing this DLC - which was once a MUST HAVE but now is a MUST NEVER PLAY!

Oh you don't like the only pvp DLC to come to this game because you are a average PVEr? Let me just start a thread about how I hate orsinium and how I will never buy it because I'm not a PVEr.

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Abob · August 2016

Already got almost 230k tel'vars just from killing players. Need 20k more, so please make sure to keep farming them for me.

LegacyDM · August 2016

Pandorii wrote: »

This event isn't really for everyone. I'd recommend staying out of the sewers until the chaos subsides. What good is a double drop rate on skin and scamp if you're not getting a loot drop because you're not one of the top 12 dps? What good is double tel var gain if there's a ganker prowling every corner ready to steal them from you?

I've got my sights set for the halloween witch festival.

Try not to get too frustrated.That's how the IC ecosystem works. It's simply being amplified by the event.

Loot drop for skin doesn't even matter when you've run it 300+ times in the top 12 and don't get a skin.

Beardimus · August 2016

I disagree totally. I'm a PvEr mainly and enjoy the dailies, thee flags have brought new interest to IC which makes it spicey. If u dont like the flags just ignore them!!! You can still release and come up a ladder. Only downside is less stones than if you own, but they ain't hard to solo take!!

Yep its player heavy now but just take a break for a week. Only down side I see is alot of stones saturating the market which as a stone farmer is annoying.

Honestly I think new interest is a good thing, and come next week the real annoying folk will have left.

Adapt and overcome, don't quit something you like cos of a handful of people. Build a pvp setup and get yr stones back!!

Luigi_Vampa · August 2016

DKsUnite wrote: »

Typhoios wrote: »

DKsUnite wrote: »

Rittings wrote: »

All this has achieved is to bring out all the d-bags from their mommies basements. It does nothing for the average PvE player (whom I might add are the lifeblood and money behind this game's continued funding).

Great concept - but the capture the flag nonsense (which was applied on the whims of a single post on these forums) along with this latest pandering has done it for me. I won't be returning to the Imperial City anymore - and if I let my ESO+ lapse, I won't be purchasing this DLC - which was once a MUST HAVE but now is a MUST NEVER PLAY!

Oh you don't like the only pvp DLC to come to this game because you are a average PVEr? Let me just start a thread about how I hate orsinium and how I will never buy it because I'm not a PVEr.

Yeah but you are just a scrubby d-bag PvPer like me. You're not the lifeblood and money behind this game like he is.

Exactly why they shouldn't be saying anything when they get every single update...

Yeah, it is quite sad how entitled you have to be to feel like every update should cater to you and only you. The IC update had too much PvE in it to really be called a PvP update in my opinion. It is really a PvE update, with PvP enabled. We didn't even have PvP objectives when it first launched.

Beardimus · August 2016

And yeah, reading the comments, its the only PvP DLC so its not odd to have a pvp focus...

Asardes · August 2016

2 x 0.2% = 0.4%. So now you'll need to kill Molag "only" 250 times on average for him to drop useless cosmetic items, instead of 500 times. Yaaaay!

Vaoh · August 2016

Abob wrote: »

Already got almost 230k tel'vars just from killing players. Need 20k more, so please make sure to keep farming them for me.

Which group are you zergbombing??? I want in!

Trublz · August 2016

Coming from a non pvp'r...
I'm actually enjoying it.
I leveled to caltrops on my main and then stopped pvping. I only did it for the skill. Sometimes it was long and tedious and sometimes it was fast and fun.
I happen to just make a new character a few days ago and got him to 50 a day before the IC event. So I've spent all my time since the event in IC leveling fighters guild, leveling my alliance skills, and farming bal. its a lot more fun now that there is always something to do anywhere I go. I'm having a good time.. Thumbs up from me

Rittings · August 2016

I honestly don't care about the stones... not even one little bit. I don't even care about skin etc... I like the zone and the layout - but you get to see very little of it unless you are a strong PvPer or have a large group. Running it as a casual pair as a lowbie is ridiculously difficult...

I play on the NA server usually - and have 700 cp and access to all the best gear in the game. I don't like IC with the new flag system for reasons specified - nor do I like the fact you have to travel to the damn sewer entrances through blockades of gankers... making it tough to even get into the place on your own (basically being stopped by PvPers that don't even have to own the content to stop you playing it yourself!! How moronic is that??).

However... recently started playing on the EU server. No gear... very little CP... made me realize that this DLC isn't accessible to anyone without time invested into the game. I can't honestly believe that's what ZoS were aiming for... even more elitism!!

Titansteele · August 2016

Some people will find any reason to complain. We are all different, we like different things.

Cyrodill = PVP
Rest of the world = PVE
IC = PVP/PVE

You read these forums and ardent PVP players dislike IC because it has PVE elements in it and the ardent PVE players dislike IC because it has PVP elements in it.
You know what? You get the vocal minority on these forums. I have played my fair share of MMO`s and this is the first game where I have properly enjoyed PVP and I have managed to get many people into IC and Cyro whom would have never ventured anywhere near it. IC has helped with that a great deal, they start off in the relative safety of a small group of 4-8 players and before you know it they are off stalking the city and sewers solo.

OP - bringing a PVP/PVE devide into your post form the very start is a surefire way to derail and dilute any point you had. With that said I am strugglign to find a decent point other than "I dont like this, I am off" .... Enjoy Wow pal, jog on.

P3ZZL3 · August 2016

Personally, outside of the whole PVP vs PVE argument, which this kind of thread was always going to end up in, I do tend to agree with the challenge of individual solo players who have subscribed/bought the IC DLC having issues in getting to the Sewers.

One possible way - and obviously this would very much depend on the difficulty/cost/time involved in setting it up, but a portal in your main Cyrodiil city that would allow players at say less than Rank 3 in Alliance war the chance to port in to the Sewers base.

At least this would allow them access and anyone who is over/above/at level 3 should have a fair understanding of what to do to get to the Sewers over land without the portal *shrugs*

notimetocare · August 2016

Rittings wrote: »

Yeah it's really that bad.

It's never been great - but this, you're right, has made it worse. Just like the capture the flag bs that was introduced did. At least before that all the PVPers would hang out in the Arena district - now the d-baggery has been dissipated throughout the entire city.

We pay for this content - but can't use it. I'd love to go run the quests casually with my wife (we both have ESO+) but after a long horse ride from a random keep (since the other keeps are taken... don't get me even started on the fact you can pay for this content and have d-bags camping the entrances to stop you using what you paid for etc...) only to be ganked within seconds of trying to quest.

Its moronic. The devs need a rethink of this one...

1) You need to have a direct wayshrine into the sewer base.

2) There needs to be a strictly PVE only version of it.

You do, Sigil of Imperial Cowardi... Retreat.

If they add a pve only version, pvp has no way to earn TV. Terribad design.

notimetocare · August 2016

My only complaint is about how broken stam is because of their sets. Other than that, i don't mind a fight for my stones(but ambush, vel proc, incap isnt really balanced...). Sometimes i make a ton, sometimes not. I do play late night and have the ability to solo most district bosses though

Asardes · August 2016

Rittings wrote: »

However... recently started playing on the EU server. No gear... very little CP... made me realize that this DLC isn't accessible to anyone without time invested into the game. I can't honestly believe that's what ZoS were aiming for... even more elitism!!

Go to Spell Breaker. That campaign is empty most of the time on EU PC. It's actually pretty hard to encounter anyone in Cyrodiil, and you even have a hard time encountering them in IC. I've soloed the static mini bosses in the sewers on my main, explored the whole city, did the main quests and the repeatable ones with being killed maybe 2-3 times a day. Almost always by players. Another good thing is that if you find groups they are usually small, so the TV drops are bigger. I did the bosses on the surface, the ones that patrol the sewers and Molag Bal in groups as small as 3 and as big as 8 players. It's hard to find groups larger than that.

Asardes · August 2016

I don't think there are as many players who either play just PvP or PvE and hate the other. Most of them play both. The PvP skills sure help in PvE too. A tank without war horn, a healer without barrier or purge and any stamina build without vigor are just plain weaker. I just went to play PvP just for those skills and to get the shards in Cyrodiil and IC and skill point in IC quest, and for the sake of exploration, but I began to enjoy it. Playing against other players turned out to be actually fun. I'm still a beginner, having reached just rank 15, have no specialized gear and I still get killed a lot, but I still like it nevertheless.

Wollust · August 2016

This whole event has just caused massive zergs to run wild in IC and sewers.
At least that has given me a reason to play my bomb NB again.

Silver_Strider · August 2016

IC is not for carebears. If you don't like it stay out.
I personally always liked IC, just because it has a higher level of danger than average PvP, where gankers are everywhere, Zerg trains run rampant and carebears get killed.

My Tel Var bank is overflowing at this point, so much so that I wish I had a crafting bag to store all the materials I've bought so I can actually buy more!

Karacule_Fairystar · August 2016

I got loading screen while moving to another District then BAAMM!! I'm dead, like it's not my fault I get caught off guard because of such LOAADING SCREEEN which should've been resolved or either detect player if they're completely loaded to the new world they're in.

arkansas_ESO · August 2016

It's a PvP zone and was marketed as exactly that, if you don't like it then go to one of the 20+ PVE zone's

Bigevilpeter · August 2016

I like it better now with capture the flag system, gives me more purpose to go to IC

Runs · August 2016

God forbid they have a PVP event that is nothing more than raising the drop rates and reselling old stuff. When they have a real event which is PVE based right around the corner with completely new items and quests. And another one that's supposed to come in the winter which will probably also be PVE based.

I do agree they should have a wayshrine directly to the sewer base. Also, I think, players there should have their own pop lock that doesn't interfere with Cyrodiil's.

As far as a PVE only version... Wouldn't bother me if they made one, so long as they removed or drastically reduced the amount of TV stones one could get. Same with Cyrodiil, a PVE only version with no AP. I don't think either of these would be a bad thing so long as you weren't able to farm the PVP specific currencies. But that's just me, I'm sure some players would not want to see that at all.

NewBlacksmurf · August 2016

Yep it's very bad but IC was never good. It was a terrible way to do this.....

Just gonna start up Elite Dangerous as this game is getting worse and worse each month it exists.

Mortehl · August 2016

Rittings wrote: »

All this has achieved is to bring out all the d-bags from their mommies basements. It does nothing for the average PvE player (whom I might add are the lifeblood and money behind this game's continued funding).

Great concept - but the capture the flag nonsense (which was applied on the whims of a single post on these forums) along with this latest pandering has done it for me. I won't be returning to the Imperial City anymore - and if I let my ESO+ lapse, I won't be purchasing this DLC - which was once a MUST HAVE but now is a MUST NEVER PLAY!

Sorry you feel that way. For me, this event has been amazing fun during which I've been on both ends of the beat stick. The flag element to IC has turned the place into a lot of fun in general for me..

WillhelmBlack · August 2016

This is what happens when PvE players attend a PvP event, the 1st in 2.5 years I may add. Many tears, such sorrow.