Stoopid_Nwah wrote: »If you think there's sportsmanship in competitive sport, then I can only assume most of you haven't been good enough to be competitive. The atmosphere is more toxic than ESO, trust me.Stoopid_Nwah wrote: »If you think there's sportsmanship in competitive sport, then I can only assume most of you haven't been good enough to be competitive. The atmosphere is more toxic than ESO, trust me.
I have to strongly disagree here. No one likes to lose, but high competition != poor sportsmanship. Some sports may exhibit more displays of poor sportsmanship from competitors than others, but I do think it just comes down to whether or not the competitor is a raging jerk or not. Add in the anonymity of online gaming, and I would say it is easily more toxic in mmos as few are worried about any sort of issues arising from their actions.
I played sport at a semi professional level for a few years. Trust me, this is a cake walk in comparison.
I am currently in that world...Except it's at the professional level-world championships, Olympic trials, etc. Perhaps you're talking about a more "showy" sport (awful word choice here probably) like American football or baseball? I suppose I could see those having a bit more drama as some players get such insane salaries.
Regardless, I stand by what I said-people being jerks/insecure/ragers, that's where unsportsmanlike behaviour comes from. In professional sports, you can lose sponsorships by acting inappropriately. In eso, what happens? Nothing. So the toxicity runs rampant.
Joy_Division wrote: »I believe you are way overestimating the level of sportsmanship outside of videogames.
For every Nikki Hamblin in the Olympics, there are dozens of dopers, rule-benders, churlish egotists, childish rants, and flat out violence that have Pierre de Coubertin rolling in his grave.
This doesn't mean it's OK to be a jerk. Rather, it means if you comes across what you perceive of as a jerk in Cyrodiil, it's not because sportsmanship isn't relevant in videogame, rather because it is an observable phenomenon when it comes to competition.
And even then it's going to be difficult to find agreement of what is "sporting." I'm wearing legal gear that ZoS has said was WAI or am using a legal attack combination without the use of macros that Jane Doe thinks is "exploiting"? Hmm, I'd argue Jane Doe is the one that has an issue with poor sportsmanship, not me. Also good sportmanship does not entail allowing a solo player free license to disrupt alliance supply lines. These players are situating themselves in areas with enemy traffic for the expressed purpose of killing your alliance-mates and just because they start running away, sportsmanship does not dictate that I then need to let them go. That's the problem, there are grey areas whereupon what constitutes sportsmanship is entirely ambiguous and in the eye of the beholder.
In general 90% of the time, I do not find it constructive to make an public issue at something which people perceive as poor sportsmanship. How many threads have come on these forums about people complains that one faction nightcaps, zergsStoopid_Nwah wrote: »If you think there's sportsmanship in competitive sport, then I can only assume most of you haven't been good enough to be competitive. The atmosphere is more toxic than ESO, trust me.Stoopid_Nwah wrote: »If you think there's sportsmanship in competitive sport, then I can only assume most of you haven't been good enough to be competitive. The atmosphere is more toxic than ESO, trust me.
I have to strongly disagree here. No one likes to lose, but high competition != poor sportsmanship. Some sports may exhibit more displays of poor sportsmanship from competitors than others, but I do think it just comes down to whether or not the competitor is a raging jerk or not. Add in the anonymity of online gaming, and I would say it is easily more toxic in mmos as few are worried about any sort of issues arising from their actions.
I played sport at a semi professional level for a few years. Trust me, this is a cake walk in comparison.
I am currently in that world...Except it's at the professional level-world championships, Olympic trials, etc. Perhaps you're talking about a more "showy" sport (awful word choice here probably) like American football or baseball? I suppose I could see those having a bit more drama as some players get such insane salaries.
Regardless, I stand by what I said-people being jerks/insecure/ragers, that's where unsportsmanlike behaviour comes from. In professional sports, you can lose sponsorships by acting inappropriately. In eso, what happens? Nothing. So the toxicity runs rampant.
Chess is about the least "showy" sport and I have seen grandmasters throw the pieces on the ground in anger.
Poor sportsmanship isn't some new phenomenon brought about by egotistic Americans in high profile sports looking to market themselves for a huge paycheck. And I wouldn't cite the Olympics as a venue for good sportsmanship. For every Nikki Hamblin there a dozens of cheaters, jerks, and criminals
In professional sports, one might lose a sponsorship for acting "inappropriately," but that is all about marketing and nothing about the actual sport or competition. You can't compare that to ESO because McDonalds isn't looking for any of us to sell BiG Macs anytime soon.
My big beef is with cheaters. People are always telling me that Tom Brady is the avatar of All That Is Good and Holy in The Holy Game of Football but the man knew his team was messing with the game balls for his team's advantage. And he didn't gquit. You can say whatever you want to me. But people who defend this "man" who probably shaves his body parts disgust me and are probably Cheat Engine users too.
Darnathian wrote: »My big beef is with cheaters. People are always telling me that Tom Brady is the avatar of All That Is Good and Holy in The Holy Game of Football but the man knew his team was messing with the game balls for his team's advantage. And he didn't gquit. You can say whatever you want to me. But people who defend this "man" who probably shaves his body parts disgust me and are probably Cheat Engine users too.
Thays what is great about America. We dont go off rumors and enuwendo. Innocent till proven guilty.
The internet is anonymous = name and reputation aren't on the line, and games seldom have sportsmanship rules or enforcement.
Sucks but that's why people act like ***.
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That's absolutely true, KenaPKK. There's people that after you beat them 2v1, you tell them 'good fight', and they respond with 'f**k off, you zerged me down'... and even after clarifying 'Sorry, I'm sincere - I thought you fought very well outnumbered' they are still cursing at you.
Whoever appeals to the law against his fellow gamer is either a fool or a coward, whoever cannot take care of themselves without that law is both. For a wounded gamer shall say to his assailant if I live I will kill u, if I die u r forgiven, such is the code of gamer.
Basically rubbed those nuts in my face, u know u like it. Its just a video game, try not to think too much into. If it bothers u that much, go outside and let the big boys play.
Well, it's virtual sexual assault. So why not just /shovel or /sweep? That's actually a serious question.jarradarab wrote: »Whoever appeals to the law against his fellow gamer is either a fool or a coward, whoever cannot take care of themselves without that law is both. For a wounded gamer shall say to his assailant if I live I will kill u, if I die u r forgiven, such is the code of gamer.
Basically rubbed those nuts in my face, u know u like it. Its just a video game, try not to think too much into. If it bothers u that much, go outside and let the big boys play.
Teabaggin is sexual assault, i em gettin triggered
AmberLaTerra wrote: »Sportsmanship in this game can come back to bite you too because so few have it.
Last night I was xp farming in IC on my low level DC toon. Yes I expect to be killed when doing so but what I encountered was first very bad sportsmanship from an AD player who saw my level knew I was XP farming, and came bac to the same area to kill me over and over before I finally gave up and switched zones.
It was in the new zone where showing good sportsmanship came back to bite me. I came across an EP player who was also solo and around the same level as me. His HP was at about 50% from the NPC's he had just fought so I just waved and moved to the next group of NPCs instead of taking advantage of his weakened state. My showing mercy and good sportsmanship by no killing him in an uneven fight got me him coming back with 2 of his high level buddies to kill me about 4 minutes later.
I will still stick to my code and try to let PvE people go but it does get old when your doing PVE and getting griefed over and over or a fellow PVE person you are nice to sets you up.
CE is beyond low but I will not get into a rant about how much I cannot stand any who would use that.
Well, it's virtual sexual assault. So why not just /shovel or /sweep? That's actually a serious question.jarradarab wrote: »Whoever appeals to the law against his fellow gamer is either a fool or a coward, whoever cannot take care of themselves without that law is both. For a wounded gamer shall say to his assailant if I live I will kill u, if I die u r forgiven, such is the code of gamer.
Basically rubbed those nuts in my face, u know u like it. Its just a video game, try not to think too much into. If it bothers u that much, go outside and let the big boys play.
Teabaggin is sexual assault, i em gettin triggered
Trolling ignored - serious question still stands.jarradarab wrote: »Well, it's virtual sexual assault. So why not just /shovel or /sweep? That's actually a serious question.jarradarab wrote: »Whoever appeals to the law against his fellow gamer is either a fool or a coward, whoever cannot take care of themselves without that law is both. For a wounded gamer shall say to his assailant if I live I will kill u, if I die u r forgiven, such is the code of gamer.
Basically rubbed those nuts in my face, u know u like it. Its just a video game, try not to think too much into. If it bothers u that much, go outside and let the big boys play.
Teabaggin is sexual assault, i em gettin triggered
No its real sexual assalt. Anyone who does it should be life banned from the game for LIFE. Now would you all kindly stop triggering me.
Trolling ignored - serious question still stands.jarradarab wrote: »Well, it's virtual sexual assault. So why not just /shovel or /sweep? That's actually a serious question.jarradarab wrote: »Whoever appeals to the law against his fellow gamer is either a fool or a coward, whoever cannot take care of themselves without that law is both. For a wounded gamer shall say to his assailant if I live I will kill u, if I die u r forgiven, such is the code of gamer.
Basically rubbed those nuts in my face, u know u like it. Its just a video game, try not to think too much into. If it bothers u that much, go outside and let the big boys play.
Teabaggin is sexual assault, i em gettin triggered
No its real sexual assalt. Anyone who does it should be life banned from the game for LIFE. Now would you all kindly stop triggering me.
If it isn't seen as virtual sexual assault, and merely crouching, why do you think it would elect such rage? For example, why would one be offended by crouch more than /dance?jarradarab wrote: »Trolling ignored - serious question still stands.jarradarab wrote: »Well, it's virtual sexual assault. So why not just /shovel or /sweep? That's actually a serious question.jarradarab wrote: »Whoever appeals to the law against his fellow gamer is either a fool or a coward, whoever cannot take care of themselves without that law is both. For a wounded gamer shall say to his assailant if I live I will kill u, if I die u r forgiven, such is the code of gamer.
Basically rubbed those nuts in my face, u know u like it. Its just a video game, try not to think too much into. If it bothers u that much, go outside and let the big boys play.
Teabaggin is sexual assault, i em gettin triggered
No its real sexual assalt. Anyone who does it should be life banned from the game for LIFE. Now would you all kindly stop triggering me.
In all seriousness it isn't virtual sexual assault. Its crouching over a dead body. It implies sexual actions but it isn't one. As for the /shovel, its my go to emote when i kill someone. I only ever teabag when i see someone get zerged down and i had literally nothing to do with it, purely because i know that people rage so much over that kind of thing.
If it isn't seen as virtual sexual assault, and merely crouching, why do you think it would elect such rage? For example, why would one be offended by crouch more than /dance?jarradarab wrote: »Trolling ignored - serious question still stands.jarradarab wrote: »Well, it's virtual sexual assault. So why not just /shovel or /sweep? That's actually a serious question.jarradarab wrote: »Whoever appeals to the law against his fellow gamer is either a fool or a coward, whoever cannot take care of themselves without that law is both. For a wounded gamer shall say to his assailant if I live I will kill u, if I die u r forgiven, such is the code of gamer.
Basically rubbed those nuts in my face, u know u like it. Its just a video game, try not to think too much into. If it bothers u that much, go outside and let the big boys play.
Teabaggin is sexual assault, i em gettin triggered
No its real sexual assalt. Anyone who does it should be life banned from the game for LIFE. Now would you all kindly stop triggering me.
In all seriousness it isn't virtual sexual assault. Its crouching over a dead body. It implies sexual actions but it isn't one. As for the /shovel, its my go to emote when i kill someone. I only ever teabag when i see someone get zerged down and i had literally nothing to do with it, purely because i know that people rage so much over that kind of thing.
Indeed. And honestly, if I'm really trying to get a reaction out of someone, I'll use guffaw. Much higher percentage of hate-tells.I find it interesting this has turned into a teabagging thread. To me, teabagging isn't sexual (despite it's origins), but rather a display of dominance. It's why some nub who was running behind a zerg who never touched you stopping to teabag looks so pathetic.
If it isn't seen as virtual sexual assault, and merely crouching, why do you think it would elect such rage? For example, why would one be offended by crouch more than /dance?jarradarab wrote: »Trolling ignored - serious question still stands.jarradarab wrote: »Well, it's virtual sexual assault. So why not just /shovel or /sweep? That's actually a serious question.jarradarab wrote: »Whoever appeals to the law against his fellow gamer is either a fool or a coward, whoever cannot take care of themselves without that law is both. For a wounded gamer shall say to his assailant if I live I will kill u, if I die u r forgiven, such is the code of gamer.
Basically rubbed those nuts in my face, u know u like it. Its just a video game, try not to think too much into. If it bothers u that much, go outside and let the big boys play.
Teabaggin is sexual assault, i em gettin triggered
No its real sexual assalt. Anyone who does it should be life banned from the game for LIFE. Now would you all kindly stop triggering me.
In all seriousness it isn't virtual sexual assault. Its crouching over a dead body. It implies sexual actions but it isn't one. As for the /shovel, its my go to emote when i kill someone. I only ever teabag when i see someone get zerged down and i had literally nothing to do with it, purely because i know that people rage so much over that kind of thing.
jarradarab wrote: »Well, it's virtual sexual assault. So why not just /shovel or /sweep? That's actually a serious question.jarradarab wrote: »Whoever appeals to the law against his fellow gamer is either a fool or a coward, whoever cannot take care of themselves without that law is both. For a wounded gamer shall say to his assailant if I live I will kill u, if I die u r forgiven, such is the code of gamer.
Basically rubbed those nuts in my face, u know u like it. Its just a video game, try not to think too much into. If it bothers u that much, go outside and let the big boys play.
Teabaggin is sexual assault, i em gettin triggered
No its real sexual assalt. Anyone who does it should be life banned from the game for LIFE. Now would you all kindly stop triggering me.
jarradarab wrote: »Well, it's virtual sexual assault. So why not just /shovel or /sweep? That's actually a serious question.jarradarab wrote: »Whoever appeals to the law against his fellow gamer is either a fool or a coward, whoever cannot take care of themselves without that law is both. For a wounded gamer shall say to his assailant if I live I will kill u, if I die u r forgiven, such is the code of gamer.
Basically rubbed those nuts in my face, u know u like it. Its just a video game, try not to think too much into. If it bothers u that much, go outside and let the big boys play.
Teabaggin is sexual assault, i em gettin triggered
No its real sexual assalt. Anyone who does it should be life banned from the game for LIFE. Now would you all kindly stop triggering me.
Teabagging is as real of a sexual assault as me killing your pixels is real murder.
Step off.
For relevance, it is often cited as one of the most common displays of unsportsmanlike conduct.I find it interesting this has turned into a teabagging thread. To me, teabagging isn't sexual (despite it's origins), but rather a display of dominance. It's why some nub who was running behind a zerg who never touched you stopping to teabag looks so pathetic.