Icereach PC NA (Mulaamnir/Kyne/BWB NA PC - Final)

Valen_Byte · August 2016

These glutinous infiltrators shall be cleansed from our lands.

ȽσƦÐŞσƦѦ · August 2016

Well I gotta run now but we took most of the map and most of the scrolls. GJ DC! Dethrone INC too (so long as EP doesn't attack us lol).

Stridig · August 2016

Got a new EP toon into BwB. Some of us are doing what we can I suppose.

ȽσƦÐŞσƦѦ · August 2016

Stridig wrote: »

Got a new EP toon into BwB. Some of us are doing what we can I suppose.

Nice that people are going to EP, that will really help with balance taking from most populated and moving to least.

Adenoma · August 2016

I'll say that it's ironic for how whiny DC is about getting gate camped they are just sitting at Fare. Doesn't bother me - good fights. Just hypocritical.

ȽσƦÐŞσƦѦ · August 2016

Adenoma wrote: »

I don't think that because AD has numbers you need to demean them. That's just inflammatory.

Adenoma wrote: »

I'll say that it's ironic for how whiny DC is about getting gate camped they are just sitting at Fare. Doesn't bother me - good fights. Just hypocritical.

You were saying something about hypocrisy? Or did you think calling people who speak of legitimate concerns regarding population (concerns that you admitted just a few posts ago were serious enough to "disgust" you) "whiny" isn't demeaning or inflammatory?

In response though, you were not gate camped. We all agreed to let AD take back the first 2 keeps and most agreed to allow Fare to be taken too.

Also note, you were at 3bars when you were pushed to gates and had scrolls taken by DC's 2 bars, you were at 3 bars to DC's 2 when we took emp, and you are still at 3 bars to DC's 2 while you complain about being gate camped (even though you're not being gate camped). You will soon be pop locked to DC's 2 bars, don't worry. The yellow sea will not forsake you.

Oh and DC was at 1 bar to AD's 3 when we started the initial push to get out from being gate farmed. GG

I'm off (probably for the night), have fun!

TipsyDrow · August 2016

Adenoma wrote: »

I'll say that it's ironic for how whiny DC is about getting gate camped they are just sitting at Fare. Doesn't bother me - good fights. Just hypocritical.

Veteran players on DC side told everyone in zone to leave the tri-keeps alone after getting the scrolls. The person who got emp said it, darv said, i said it, others said it. I dunno who is at fare because I switched to a new character after the last scroll was taken and Willy got Emp. Don't generalize and group everyone together....sound familiar?

Adenoma · August 2016

For the record, Sora, I've rerolled EP for balance. I think it sounds whiny to demean an alliance for numbers, but that's just me calling em like I see em.

W0lf_z13 · August 2016

i havent been in bwb at all... well... i stopped in to deposit gold into the bank of a toon i had in there, but that was it.... was farming mats and creating gear for dark wolf all day

Dysturbedfan · August 2016

Let's all remeber that iote wasn't even in PVP land , we were getting sky shards , soon as it ended though ....... I'll let your imagination fill that in

dem0n1k · August 2016

EP bases were total ghost towns on the Friday night! (Australian time around 7:30PM) Usually I see a couple of other EP players but there was no one. Zone chat was silent... not even the lone "LFG' :P I rode to Cropsford & took the flags hoping some AD (they were on 3 bars) would turn up & play but no one showed in about 15mins that I was there. The map was completely static the whole time I was in Cyrodiil... no crossed swords anywhere!

Deuls can't come fast enough IMO! I am looking forward to the next update. At least then there should always be some fights going... though I wonder how that will impact BWB numbers?

Adenoma · August 2016

We gave ya'll back a scroll, EP. Get in the fight.

Edit: You guys let it time out. We're gonna try to return it again.

ȽσƦÐŞσƦѦ · August 2016

Adenoma wrote: »

For the record, Sora, I've rerolled EP for balance. I think it sounds whiny to demean an alliance for numbers, but that's just me calling em like I see em.

You're as entitled to your opinion as anyone else. I find it silly to ridicule someone for "calling it how they see it" while you do the same thing. I also find it silly to talk about hypocrites while contradicting yourself only a few posts back.

Additionally, I don't think anyone demeaned an alliance for numbers. Can you quote someone specifically demeaning an alliance based on their numbers alone, or did you misinterpret someone's statement?

Adenoma · August 2016

ȽσƦÐŞσƦѦ wrote: »

Frugal wrote: »

That AD pop lock against DC and EP's 1 bar at 11 AM lmao. What a sad situation bwb is in. It's gonna turn into 6th AD zone soon if nothing changes.

Oh well, moving to trueflame doesnt look bad now!

It's annoying as ****. The majority of the sea of yellow are incompetent zerglings who never learned how to play without overwhelming population deciding their battles for them but somehow manage to have this false sense of accomplishment for winning campaigns (I guess ignorance is bliss). DC is going to go hard against AD next campaign. I hope EP does the same. Show them that their disgusting population advantages can't break us and show all the cowards who ran to AD for ezmode pvp that they should have stayed loyal to their faction.

ȽσƦÐŞσƦѦ · August 2016

Dysturbedfan wrote: »

Let's all remeber that iote wasn't even in PVP land , we were getting sky shards , soon as it ended though ....... I'll let your imagination fill that in

I've seen screenshots of the "type iote1, iote2, iote3, and iote4 for zerg" messages. Your guild is clearly able to foster 4 full zergs at once, are you attempting to convince everyone that none of iote was around? That up to 4 zergs were busy collecting skyshards?

What's even more sad is that AD was holding 3 bars while DC took the map with 2... and out of them 3 bars, you're claiming a guild that runs up to 4 full zergs at once wasn't there? If that's true, that just goes to show how truly overpopulated AD is. DC fosters up to 1 zerg max 99% of the time.

Either way... just wow.

ȽσƦÐŞσƦѦ · August 2016

@Adenoma I see your quote but I don't see an alliance "demeaned" based on their numbers alone. I don't see someone saying "AD is [insert negative comment here] because they have high population".

Adenoma · August 2016

EP, you've left your own scroll alone inside of your own gates.

Vendy · August 2016

This was an odd site

ȽσƦÐŞσƦѦ · August 2016

Vendy wrote: »

This was an odd site

Odd indeed.

darvaria · August 2016

Adenoma wrote: »

AD is pop locked against 1 bar of EP, 1 bar DC. This is unreasonable. There used to be some legitimacy to the point that at different times of the day different alliances had more pop than AD until the evening (looking at morning Australian/Japanese DC zerg), but this is basically hyperbole. I'm disgusted. I had about an hour to play and I literally don't have an option. I'm not enthusiastic about doing the undaunted grind on my former empress magDK, but I'm really weighing the options now.

Nice to see the problem is recognized by the faction that was pop locked. I was actually online at the time and yellows were swarming around North High Rock with no scroll at Ni Monk. And they were putting down sieges, pointed at High Rock. I guess they figured out you couldn't siege down High Rock. I would like to know how many players are at BWB at pop lock? I have never seen anything like it.

Anyways, about 8 PUGz online at the time. We just left BWB and came back when it settled down to 3 bars AD. Started up a group and Sora came on and took over. Population settled down to 2/1/2. But if that was your only time to play when it was pop locked/1/1, it wouldn't have been much fun. I wonder how much AP they could have gotten? 1 kill per 50 players or something like that?

SOME THING needs to be done. Give us matched number battle grounds.

Candivino · August 2016

Anyone ever want to duel, hit me up @Candivino, and I'd be happy to try my best.

vamp_emily · August 2016

Tank Emily is almost level 10, not sure if I am going to be playing in BwB or AS. In AS I die way to often. Yesterday when fighting in AS , I could have sworn some AD dropped a bomb on me and I died. One hitters are real

I don't think I am gong to be very welcomed in AS. Yesterday I played a few times and made a few comments like:

z: I think we need to start having 'how to siege' lessons on Sundays.
z: The only reason why you guys are crying about getting your face smashed in, is because you are not using strategy.

I kind of miss BwB, but taken a break is exactly what I needed. Yesterday I completed a dungeon called 'Shada's Tear', not sure which is worse AD Pop lock or Shada's Tear

I also tried maelstrom arena. I wasn't expecting to do good and wasn't fully ready. I made it to 3 final rounds before giving up. I think if I watch a few videos on the mechanics and take some potions with me I will do better.

Just_call_me_Cola · August 2016

ȽσƦÐŞσƦѦ wrote: »

@Adenoma I see your quote but I don't see an alliance "demeaned" based on their numbers alone. I don't see someone saying "AD is [insert negative comment here] because they have high population".

Ok so here's what may be going on here

( the sea of yellow) seems like your referring to an over whelming population of AD.

(are incompetent zerglings who never learned how to play without overwhelming population)
Some might read this as the demeaning or belittling of said population.

( false sense of accomplishment for winning campaigns) and AD doesn't deserve the winning of a campaign because they can get grouped and push for the W. Kind of beside the point actually.

So regarding the first two, it does seem like you might be trying to demean ad for being in large groups. At least that's how I and maybe @Adenoma read it as well. Sorry if we did misinterpret it, let me be the first to apologize and ask what you really meant? Or if it was just a post blinded by rage, it's all good man it happens. This game sucks sometimes

ȽσƦÐŞσƦѦ · August 2016

Being in large groups and the overall population of a faction are two different things. This is what Adenoma and apparently you are not understanding.

My comments were not aimed at AD's overall population, that would make no sense.

They were aimed at the players that refuse to fight without the assistance of multiple zergs (the majority of AD) and therefor never really learn how to pvp or stand on their own feet because they are not interested in pvping, they are only interested in "winning". They were aimed at the big mouthed zerglings with a superiority complex even though they are superior in nothing outside of their ability to hide in the sea of yellow. They were aimed at the people who saw AD has an overwhelming population advantage and switched to AD thereby intensifying the population imbalance because they wanted ezmode pvp.
If these comments do not apply to you then you have no reason to be offended.

To clarify the talking points you brought up:

Sea of Yellow = The multiple 24 man zergs that AD piles up all in 1 location to overwhelm anything based on numbers alone.
Incompetent Zerglings = See above. No strategy, no competence, no ability to handle their own without a zerg.
False Sense of Accomplishment = AD's claim to fame and how good they are while ignoring the fact that when numbers are even or even semi-even they are generally incapable of accomplishing anything (see yesterday when we pushed AD to gate and took all 6 scrolls from them while they had 1 bar higher pop/even pop).

Edit: Since we are dissecting my comments, would anyone care to weigh in here?

Adenoma wrote: »

I don't think that because AD has numbers you need to demean them. That's just inflammatory.

Adenoma wrote: »

I'll say that it's ironic for how whiny DC is about getting gate camped they are just sitting at Fare. Doesn't bother me - good fights. Just hypocritical.

Adenoma seems to have an issue with "demeaning" a faction based on their population (which wasn't what happened but let's roll with it) yet I see him a few posts later "demeaning" a faction for speaking up regarding population imbalance and being gate farmed by a pop locked AD while EP/DC are at 1 bar (which he confirms is a legitimate issue and goes on to say how it "disgusts" him below).

Adenoma wrote: »

AD is pop locked against 1 bar of EP, 1 bar DC. This is unreasonable. There used to be some legitimacy to the point that at different times of the day different alliances had more pop than AD until the evening (looking at morning Australian/Japanese DC zerg), but this is basically hyperbole. I'm disgusted. I had about an hour to play and I literally don't have an option. I'm not enthusiastic about doing the undaunted grind on my former empress magDK, but I'm really weighing the options now.

From this I gather his sole intention in calling DC "whiny" was to demean DC because he was angry. He recognizes the issue so he knows it isn't "whining".

I also see a comment about people being "hypocritical" while he is cleared being hypocritical only a few posts apart from his comment about hypocrisy.

Interesting.

Avenias · August 2016

Yay another campaign win, no way DC can catch up. Good job again AD, continue kicking ass!

vamp_emily · August 2016

ȽσƦÐŞσƦѦ wrote: »

Being in large groups and the overall population of a faction are two different things. This is what Adenoma and apparently you are not understanding.

My comments were not aimed at AD's overall population, that would make no sense.

They were aimed at the players that refuse to fight without the assistance of multiple zergs (the majority of AD) and therefor never really learn how to pvp or stand on their own feet because they are not interested in pvping, they are only interested in "winning". They were aimed at the big mouthed zerglings with a superiority complex even though they are superior in nothing outside of their ability to hide in the sea of yellow. They were aimed at the people who saw AD has an overwhelming population advantage and switched to AD thereby intensifying the population imbalance because they wanted ezmode pvp.
If these comments do not apply to you then you have no reason to be offended.

To clarify the talking points you brought up:

Sea of Yellow = The multiple 24 man zergs that AD piles up all in 1 location to overwhelm anything based on numbers alone.
Incompetent Zerglings = See above. No strategy, no competence, no ability to handle their own without a zerg.
False Sense of Accomplishment = AD's claim to fame and how good they are while ignoring the fact that when numbers are even or even semi-even they are generally incapable of accomplishing anything (see yesterday when we pushed AD to gate and took all 6 scrolls from them while they had 1 bar higher pop/even pop).

I'm sure not many AD players will be offended. Almost all of them went to play on AD because they just wanted to play with their friends. AD players are just a wonderful group of friendly players that just want to have fun.

This is a recent quote from one of those fun loving zerglings on a different thread:

So our faction is kicking butts in BWB and Trueflame. AD powahhhhh!!!!! We literally run BWB atm.

I think he misspelled something so I will correct him:

So our faction is kicking butts in BWB and Trueflame. AD powahhhhh!!!!! We literally run ruin BWB atm.

Stridig · August 2016

I was one of the people that created an AD character to play with friends. I think I have logged about 12 hours in Cyrodiil on that character. I was also killed by Sora a few times yesterday on my level 10 EP character. I'm sure there are some that want easy mode but for others it's about fun. I think I logged more time in TF this week on my DC than anything else. Stay positive people. It will get better.

W0lf_z13 · August 2016

random question.... so i have seen pics of people posting their stats.... how does one get 40k magicka but STILL have 20k health?

ȽσƦÐŞσƦѦ · August 2016

W0lf_z13 wrote: »

random question.... so i have seen pics of people posting their stats.... how does one get 40k magicka but STILL have 20k health?

My magicka NB has 43k max magicka and 26k max health. It's accomplished by stacking max stat increases. For instance, a magicka race like high elf with +10% max magicka, food that gives magicka and health, health increases from heavy armor line, max magicka or hp from mage's guild abilities, etc.

Since it's so easy to restore magicka with heavy armor and resto staff (like 70% more resources from heavy attacks iirc) most magicka classes don't have to worry about regen.

ȽσƦÐŞσƦѦ · August 2016

vamp_emily wrote: »

This is a recent quote from one of those fun loving zerglings on a different thread:

So our faction is kicking butts in BWB and Trueflame. AD powahhhhh!!!!! We literally run BWB atm.

AD is also zerging Azura to death, though pop imbalance isn't as bad as BWB.