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Dawnbreaker X3 needs balance

  • Waffennacht
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    Claire wrote: »
    This ult sometimes I'm being hit 3 times in a row by same person leaving me thinking no other AOE ultimate can be spammed this fast .

    Someone please say I am not crazy for thinking in this way ... What is causing this ability to be spammed so fast that's probably needing some adjustment ?

    I'm starting to wonder if there is a broken set or set interaction, or a defect in the skill itself that is causing this. In the past week, I've been hit with double Dawnbreakers from the same person in unreasonably short periods of time. It's always Dawnbreaker -- haven't seen on other ultimates.

    On Recount, it shows initial hit, then one second later the DoT, then a second hit and its DoT. The second hit is as short as three seconds from the first. In one case, it was just me and the other player involved, so the info in Recount is very clean and clear.

    I don't have access to screen shot from phone, so unfortunately can't share it here. I have several examples from three different opponents in differing combat situations, so I don't think that I was seeing an anomaly. This does not happen everytime I am hit with Dawnbreaker -- most instances are of the single hit/DoT variety.

    I've been thinkin on this:

    Let's say hypothetical sorc, can be stam or magicka really

    Now in this hypothetical we are gonna say stam. We are gonna say he is built for ult gain.

    So he uses decisive trait. 34% chance when you gain an ult to gain another.

    Im not sure what the ult gain per dmg or heal is so that's up in the air.

    Any way. He has rally and vigor going, plus... crit surge... why not? Let's say he is gaining then health from 3 sources every sec. Then he gets an average of 1 additional ult per sec.

    After 3 seconds, with Hots (and the armor that reduces ult cost by 15% because this is hypothetical) plus weaving, I could easily someone gaining 70 ult, that's only 23 ult per second (so absorption field would take 10 seconds ish)

    Totally feasible imo.

    Doesn't DKs also got some ult gaining things too? And heroic lunge or whatever too?

    I can see a build doin it

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  • Toc de Malsvi
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    Oh you are right, my bad didnt catch that you added the two together.

    To the rest of my points though, could you list you build, such as spell damage, weapon damage, max resources and where you put your cp at? I kinda think that may make a difference but I'm not sure. Or is this on a naked character? With no skill points, cp or armor on?

    Its not from a particular build, it is base damage, damage before any build is added to it. It is before any scaling, it can be found on several different web sites.
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  • acw37162
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    Bloodspawn
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    There exits a poison that steal ultimate I believe
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    Classes with Ulti reduction
    A class with ridiculous ulti gen capability
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    It's entire possible to burn a dawnbreaker as an open and have another 10 seconds later.

    Dawnbreaker is in a really good place right now.

    Just the other day I watched a player drop a Shooting Shar Metor on a group of 5 then drop one agin less then 10 seconds later and I don't see outrage over that capability.

    Edited by acw37162 on August 26, 2016 2:49AM
  • Claire
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    Accidental post.
    Edited by Claire on August 26, 2016 10:29PM
  • Luigi_Vampa
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    Hmm .......

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    If Dawnbreak is such a problem where is the solution ? Maybe there isn't one because Dawnbreak isn't a problem.

    Seriously wow DB cost 100 for what ? A knock down and a 2 second DoT. If you are dieing this easily to DB then maybe it's a user problem and not a balancing problem.

    [Edited for baiting]

    Or maybe we think something is a little off, but we lack the technical skills and knowledge to correctly fix the problem.
    The same could be said about the people bringing up RD, they think there is a problem, but they can not articulate a solution because they don't have the proper know how.

    Not to turn this into a nerf jesus beam thread, but people know the solution to RD. Reduce range to gap closer range. This is brought up in every nerf RD thread.
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  • Vaoh
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    Actually we have Weapon Ults coming. Stamina Ults will be more diverse soon.

    Do NOT nerf Dawnbreaker of Smiting or my Dual Wield Magicka Sorc will be totally screwed! :p
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