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My character looking comically sad after latest patch

  • Mercutio
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    Yep, it's all Frown Town on my Redguard when she is smithing. Sometimes at the bank as well, seems 50/50 there.
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  • Mandragora
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    ListerJMC wrote: »
    My dragonknight has gotten the super angry face too haha, pretty great if you pair it with the furious personality!

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    LOL and I thought my character was looking mean, but this one is really rocking :) Why I get the impression that ZOS is mocking us ? :p
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    @ListerJMC thanks for the best laugh i had for a long time :)
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    This thread is awesome.
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  • ListerJMC
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    Mandragora wrote: »
    ListerJMC wrote: »
    My dragonknight has gotten the super angry face too haha, pretty great if you pair it with the furious personality!

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    LOL and I thought my character was looking mean, but this one is really rocking :) Why I get the impression that ZOS is mocking us ? :p

    Hahaha yeah she definitely got out of the wrong side of the bed that morning!
    Glamdring wrote: »
    @ListerJMC thanks for the best laugh i had for a long time :)

    No problem, I'm getting a laugh out of all these expression bugs I had to share that one! I have a lot of screenshots this bug is hilarious :D.
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  • Ylmir
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    There's something I love about this bug. It actually gives a lot more possibilities by combining emotes.

    By the way, here are some pictures of my grumpy cat.

    Oh, and yeah. He hates water. And probably everything else.
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  • Aurielle
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    ListerJMC wrote: »
    My dragonknight has gotten the super angry face too haha, pretty great if you pair it with the furious personality!

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    This made me cry, I laughed so hard. She looks madder than a racist Altmer who has just seen a Khajiit or Bosmer walk by.
  • E-Zekiel
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    E-Zekiel wrote: »
    You guys realize that the personalities come with facial expressions right?

    Anyway, there is a bug that is causing emotes (whether you do a /emote, or your character uses like a smithing bench) to make your faces stick. So far, toggling personalities on and off resets to neutral for me.

    I had to point out the personality thing though because someone posted an angry face with the furious personality.

    Yeah....That's part of the personality.......

    I don't have any personalities, I bought the Dark Brotherhood DLC, but haven't collected that personality either. And yet my character is grumpy whilst smithing, and maybe other times, but she's hidden by her helmet.

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    Please actually read my post. I put the relevant part in bold in the quote here, but you will have to expand it to see it.

    Smithing always has made your face angry. The difference is that the expression sticks once done smithing. This bug has occurred once before.
    E-Zekiel wrote: »
    It shouldn't be random. It should be if you're taking actions. I know for a fact that crafting will change your facial expression. Pretty much anything that makes you do an action or animation that comes with a facial expression will make it get stuck until you toggle on/off a personality.


    Edited by E-Zekiel on August 12, 2016 9:25PM
  • ListerJMC
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    E-Zekiel wrote: »
    You guys realize that the personalities come with facial expressions right?

    Anyway, there is a bug that is causing emotes (whether you do a /emote, or your character uses like a smithing bench) to make your faces stick. So far, toggling personalities on and off resets to neutral for me.

    I had to point out the personality thing though because someone posted an angry face with the furious personality.

    Yeah....That's part of the personality.......

    Oh that was me! But if you toggle the furious personality on you'll see that the face I posted is not the one that comes with the personality.

    She randomly became angry as I was playing and I tried to replicate it, and figured out that the /angry emote does the same expression. I then thought it'd be funny to have the furious personality toggled on before typing /angry to get that emote stuck and make the furious personality more intense.

    Edit: Ohhh I just sat around watching the furious personality for a bit and that expression does happen in that personality's rotation while it's toggled on! Now I'm starting to wonder if it's a bug with personality expressions not toggling off properly since I'm getting them when I have no personalities active...
    Edited by ListerJMC on August 13, 2016 4:09AM
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  • ListerJMC
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    Okay so this is everything I've figured out, though a lot of this has already been mentioned in this thread.

    As far as I can tell only the blacksmithing station gives you the :angry: expression; I had no issues with any other crafting station. Dismounting or toggling a personality on and off fixes it.

    Mounting, or being mounted and riding through enemy mobs, may leave your character with the :o face - dismounting usually fixes it but sometimes you get stuck like that for a little while. I ran through several mobs unmounted and couldn't trigger it, so I believe it's just a mount thing.

    Using an emote which changes your characters' expression (such as /cower and /angry) will leave your expression stuck like that. It can be fixed by toggling a personality on or off or mounting on and off - but the latter may leave you with :o.

    There's a :smiley: face that only one of my characters has gotten a few times, this image was taken while questing but I remember it's also happened after the completion of a trial once because a guildie pointed it out to me. This bug was actually happening before this patch, because as you can see my lovely Mages Guild robes don't have floating shoulders that clip though my hair (I'll never forget the good times I had with this robe before the patch!):

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    I was thinking maybe it was just the mounted expression bug, since the trial was Aetherian Archive which I mounted during and I ride between quest-givers, but it's not quite the same expression:

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    :), :rage:, and :( I'm now thinking might be personalities occasionally continuing to work randomly after being toggled off; since I've since discovered all the emotions my characters have randomly displayed feature in the new personalities which I have used on all of them. The only exception is the :smiley: face, but that was happening before this patch. Someone here said they got :rage: after race changing though, which I can't test because I never used that service.

    Some NPCs seem to be stuck with :) faces; haven't seen any :( or :rage: NPCs yet.

    That's about it. I should note that in the 3 hours I've played today none of my characters have done any weird expressions and I've been fiddling around with personalities and emotes a lot to try and work this out.
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  • Ylmir
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    To me, it looked like any change in the expression/face of the character stayed after the emote was finished, if the emote used changed the character's expression. I tried with a khajiit using the DB personality, and a redguard using the one from Shadows Of The Hist - still have to try without using any personality.

    Example - using /celebrate after using /cry :
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    By the way, while this is, for now, a bug, it might be fun to add some commands to change the character's expression, something that could be compatible with other emotes, to give more freedom to the player - expressions that would work a bit like this bug does, but toggled by different commands than the standard emotes, something like /sadface, /neutralface... I don't know if a lot of people would actually use it though. Roleplayers, probably.

    Edit : With no personality activated, this still happens.
    Edited by Ylmir on August 14, 2016 2:47PM
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  • ArchMikem
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    It's not just our characters.

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    Oh, yeah this was on Xbox. When I searched for this thread I didn't notice it's in the PC Tech Support section. lol
    Edited by ArchMikem on August 19, 2016 10:40PM
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  • Taleof2Cities
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    Hi!

    [SNIP] Still an issue on PC. I sent a cosmetic bug ticket in game ... that's all for now.

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    Edited by ZOS_JohanaB on August 24, 2016 12:34PM
  • wolfydog
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    I find when this happens to me if I go on a mount it fixes it. I have friends in game it happens to also, usually pretty funny when noticed.
  • Personofsecrets
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    This is great. Please keep.
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  • Jimboo84
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    I know I'm the only one with this issue, I've talked to about 30 players and more than half have this happening to them.

    I'm certain this only started after I used the style parlour on my main character. I've attached a screenshot to show what I mean and it really is a weird effect

    Since the latest DLC every time any of my characters uses the equipment crafting tables their mouth gets permanently turned down at the edges making them look utterly miserable, the only way to fix this is to toggle any personality on and off. This is now happening all the time to all 4 of my alts, even those that never used the style parlour and its getting REALLY irritating, please, please is their anyway to fix this other than using the personalities because I don't really like any of them :(

    I've tried, repairing the game and swapping Equipment/colours/hairstyles etc., only the personalities seem to make the issue go away.

    P.S any chance of a mage personality, obsessed with wine and books in the middle of a dungeon would be good :)

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  • Mattock_Romulus
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    ListerJMC wrote: »

    Mounting, or being mounted ..... may leave your character with the :open_mouth: face... :


    Let's keep this clean people. ..

  • ListerJMC
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    ListerJMC wrote: »

    Mounting, or being mounted ..... may leave your character with the :open_mouth: face... :


    Let's keep this clean people. ..

    Hey, that was out of context! :anguished:

    I should probably add to the original post though that I have come across NPCs with bizarre facial expressions that I didn't list - confused, shocked, and super angry. I haven't been using personalities and haven't had any expression bugs on my own characters besides purposefully glitching emotes for my own amusement.
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  • bellanca6561n
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    Ah, I see this problem has been reported.

    Yes, Blacksmithing will make your character pout. So will some of the dye stations.

    Firstly, this is Varleh normally.....not terribly cheerful to begin with. She's a Dunmer after all.

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    Then she appeared to grow even more sour when she went to the smithing station.....

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    And this mood persisted when she left......

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    I then engaged and left the Crown Store and she was back to normal. Seems she likes to shop....

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    Yes, I reported it using /bug opting for including screen shots for before and after.

    Finally, I may take a light tone with this but my mood is worse than my characters.

    You see, I don't want to confess just how much F*CKING MONEY I spent on character change tokens to get the appearance of my characters just the way I want them. And then to have the game whimsically change them on me makes me.....displeased.

    Although I'm not about to become one of those loons ranting for refunds, I think it's reasonable to request high priority attention. Yes, it's cosmetic.....only the most lucrative business in free to play games. Break that and you break your business.

    Thank you.
  • bellanca6561n
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    ListerJMC wrote: »
    ListerJMC wrote: »

    Mounting, or being mounted ..... may leave your character with the :open_mouth: face... :


    Let's keep this clean people. ..

    Hey, that was out of context! :anguished:

    I should probably add to the original post though that I have come across NPCs with bizarre facial expressions that I didn't list - confused, shocked, and super angry. I haven't been using personalities and haven't had any expression bugs on my own characters besides purposefully glitching emotes for my own amusement.

    Yes there's a whole lot of uncanny valley going on with NPC facial expressions lately as well. Some are, however, intended, such as those weird smiles they've added to many of the NPC interaction dialogs. They look....bizarre, alas.

    Plus, when last in Elden Root, it was as if a horrid mood had descended upon most NPCs. Mass pouting....odd.
  • Glaiceana
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    Bug is still happening (PC), scary smiley face and ultimate grumpy face is still appearing on my character :D
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    oopps...sry wrong pic....
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    damn....wrong again....
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    ok still not right one...
    got it....


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    as if zos ever managed the mimics. but i am fine with that...could be worse, i have something to laugh at least.
  • Elsonso
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    Thanks guys! We're working on fixing this so your character is less :angry: and more :smile:

    @ZOS_GinaBruno .. any update on a fix for this, out of curiousity?
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  • JKith
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    My character has a super sad and angry face... always wondered why!?.. such a funny thread this is...

    But seriously...is there a fix?
  • Saoirse_Siobhan
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    Lol, just spotted this expression on an NPC :

    She looks a little ill
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    Here she just looks unimpressed
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    I'm all for more facial expressions! Especially these on NPCs. Buuuut, you might still want to turn the happy/unhappy expressions down a notch on our characters :D
    And an NPC sporting a Joker smile whilst giving you bad or horrid news is kinda creepy, unless of course that is the intended effect! ;)
    Edited by Saoirse_Siobhan on September 24, 2016 11:31AM
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  • ListerJMC
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    I'm still getting this bug too. It hasn't randomly happened to any of my characters without using an emote or blacksmithing station beforehand though so that issue, at least for me, seems to have been resolved (though I haven't really been using personalities much apart from walking around drunkenly, so still wondering if it had something to do with those). As for NPCs...

    Naryu Virian got her expression stuck like this while I was talking to her:
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    Rala got stuck with the extreme angry face (which I think was actually very fitting for the situation):
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    Lastly we have confused Velsa:
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    It's funny but really out of place sometimes!
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  • ZOS_GinaBruno
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    This should be fixed when we release the next update (One Tamriel). No more frowny faces!
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  • Birdovic
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    ListerJMC wrote: »
    I'm still getting this bug too. It hasn't randomly happened to any of my characters without using an emote or blacksmithing station beforehand though so that issue, at least for me, seems to have been resolved (though I haven't really been using personalities much apart from walking around drunkenly, so still wondering if it had something to do with those). As for NPCs...

    Naryu Virian got her expression stuck like this while I was talking to her:
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    It's funny but really out of place sometimes!

    Oh my! Remember the guards or Shop Owners in TES Oblivion? When they caught you sneaking around and said you should leave?
    They had EXACTLY that expression and followed you around the house not changing it! :lol:
    Edited by Birdovic on September 25, 2016 8:35PM
  • MasterSpatula
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    This should be fixed when we release the next update (One Tamriel). No more frowny faces!

    Oh, thank goodness. It was irritating at first, then it got funny for a short while, but then it got old real fast. Really happy about this fix!
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