JD2013 wrote: »

Holycannoli wrote: »

UltimaJoe777 wrote: »

Holycannoli wrote: »

I don't want a MMORPG that scales every single zone. I think I'll have to start looking for another one. I hear there's a new Conan one in the works.

I agree, but Zenimax wants people to be able to go to any zone anytime without being disadvantaged because it's "The Elder Scrolls".

That's not really an Elder Scrolls feature. I played Daggerfall, Morrowind and Skyrim and there were definitely areas you didn't want to adventure in yet because you were too low level.

They can open the world all they want, just don't scale it all. That's not what I want in a MMORPG, that's not what this game was from beta to now, and I won't be sticking around for it.

starkerealm wrote: »

That's Funcom. Both their prior MMO offerings, including their Age of Conan, have been unmitigated disasters.

And this isn't? It may not be on the level of "disaster" right now but ZOS is sure doing a good job of changing that.

The Secret World had some interesting ideas.

And scaling in ES has definitely only been a thing since Oblivion, definitely in Skyrim.

It's not a traditional ES thing at all. I remember setting foot in some areas of Vvardenfell in Morrowind, and being murdered to death over and over.

Definitely not an "Elder Scrolls" system at all, until Oblivion hit. I'm not a fan of this plan.

The Secret World's launch resulted in criminal charges, as I recall. I mean, that mess was bonkers.

I don't disagree that the game had some good ideas, just... that's a disaster.

starkerealm wrote: »

This is not a Funcom tier disaster.

I don't know a thing about Funcom or their games, I just know that I don't like the direction this game is taking and how drastically it's being changed from the game I enjoyed in beta and after launch.

Introducing One Tamriel crown store crates! Do you love rng? Then we have a surprise for you. Introducing loot bags tied directly to your wallets. Keep buying these and one day you might have your own extremely rare cosmetics. Didn't get what you want. Keep at it, and we can keep expanding this rng cash grab... Or crown store crates... Whatever you want to call it.

The loot is random... but the profit isn't!

Crown crates are fine as long as they don't contain crate only items. I'll be beyond pissed if a mount i really want can only be obtained by spending more than enough crowns on junk I don't want because not everyone is lucky. I don't care if they contain previous limited time items or other items because those were available previously in the crown store for direct purchasing. The chances of someone getting them are so slim that it's unlikely to override people who purchased them originally. ALL CROWN STORE OFFERINGS MUST BE AVAILABLE FOR DIRECT PURCHASE AT SOME POINT!!!! DONT SLAP LOYAL CUSTOMERS IN THE FACE BY MAKING THINGS A GAMBLE, NOT ALL OF US ARE GAMBLERS AND NOT ALL OF US WANT TO SPEND ENDLESS MONEY IN THE HOPES OF GETTING LUCKY. PLEASE DO NOT DO THIS YOU WILL BE PISSING OFF MANY LOYAL PLAYERS.

RomansXXI wrote: »

Crown crates are fine as long as they don't contain crate only items.

They already said they will contain crate only items.

Cazzy wrote: »

These Gems can be used to purchase other collectible items from the current Crown Crate season that you'd prefer to have instead.

This just keeps getting better and better.

Also I really could do with exact dates for the Witches Festival, or else I'm not going to be able to get the time off for it. Just sayin'.

JD2013 wrote: »

ajwest927 wrote: »

I hope these new veteran dungeons aren't just normal dungeon with higher difficulty.

I have heard it won't be that. They will be getting separate stories.

From what I read on Reddit, that is exactly what they will be. Just harder version of what we have now

Holycannoli wrote: »

I don't want a MMORPG that scales every single zone. I think I'll have to start looking for another one. I hear there's a new Conan one in the works.

So your just here because it's an MMO and not because it's an ES game? well nice knowing you.

Oh, they do understand that most of the players don't want those boxes. But they also understand that most players still playing will accept most of the issues plaqueing this game and keep playing it. And those players still here will also those who will accept boxes and pay for them. That's all they need to know.

We will be a sub game, all new content is included! -> Dropped sub, charge extra for DLC
We will never have a crown store -> Crown store added
We will never sell more than pure cosmetics -> XP scrolls added
We will never sell gamble crates -> gamble cates added
We will never sell P2W stuff -> guess what will be coming soon?

as long there is money they will milk the players until nobody is left. ZO$ does not care about long term goals or potential of the franchise. Only thing is short term money grabs.

driosketch wrote: »

Bryanonymous wrote: »

driosketch wrote: »

Boxes aside, I've noticed we've gone from a full zone update, to a series of half zones, to a pair of dungeons to no DLC at all for update 12.

Have you ever noticed how people will say, 'fix the game before you add new stuff'. This is that. Opening zones to all factions is something players have wanted since the beginning, and duels was a popular idea as well.

Just making an observation. Also these would be quality of life additions and added features, which I like, but still counts as new stuff. When players say fixes, they usually refer to broken skills, sets, exploitable mechanics, and the lag.

Actually, most of what I liked about Update 11 was the base game updates. That doesn't mean they were free, change appearance token, costume dyeing. With lock boxes coming in Update 12, I'm wondering if we're seeing another business shift for the game since it went B2P.

I agree, and there really is no new content in update 12, it is all about new FEATURES, and that is not content, and I agree, the fixing of the game is what is currently broken, with this big of a change in the game and the track record ZOS has there will be plenty of new broken things when this patch comes out, don't get me wrong, I do like a lot of what I see, but I am a bit disturbed that a lot of people now a days do not know the difference between features and content. I think there is another business shift coming as well.

I think there is a lot of over reacting to the crown crates, you do not need to buy them there is nothing but fluff in them, they will be no game changers or swords of a thousands truths sold in them, it is just a fun thing to buy for some people and the lure of the unknown and chance is strong with some people, I doubt I will buy any maybe one or two at tops if any, but hey they are huge money makers in other games, and this is a for profit company.

How do people get to 16 current normal dungeons who dont have a vet version? Do you count dungeons in Craglorn?

Speaking of Craglorn, I hope some of the dungeons/delves there will be scaled for 4 man groups.. Would hate it if Craglorn completely turns into content that 1 to 2 people can clear...

I'm primarily interested in how (If at all) they may be slightly editing zones to make them better connect to others to give the world a more 'Open' feel. Allowing characters to traverse zones by going along mountains or valleys, rather than 1 single road that does through the zones.

Cazzy wrote: »

DUELING

Another highly-anticipated feature we're introducing in Update 12 is the ability to challenge another player to a duel! Test your PvP skills against your friends, or try out new builds before diving into battle in Cyrodiil or a dungeon. We'll be giving you more information on our dueling system next week at PAX West 2016.

EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEK!!!

Holycannoli wrote: »

UltimaJoe777 wrote: »

Holycannoli wrote: »

I don't want a MMORPG that scales every single zone. I think I'll have to start looking for another one. I hear there's a new Conan one in the works.

I agree, but Zenimax wants people to be able to go to any zone anytime without being disadvantaged because it's "The Elder Scrolls".

That's not really an Elder Scrolls feature. I played Daggerfall, Morrowind and Skyrim and there were definitely areas you didn't want to adventure in yet because you were too low level.

You missed Oblivion? If so, that's where this "scale everything" idea came from. Whatever level you were, most of the enemies were that level too. Even Skyrim didn't do that; it was similar, but there were areas in Skyrim with a minimum level, unlike Oblivion.

I like the idea of One Tamriel, but it kinda feels slapped on (well, it is slapped on).

Free exploration and no boundaries between alliances kinda clashes with the lore (arguable, but still) and the zones have a very clear chronological order storywise. ESO was not made a sandboxesque exploration game, but a fairly linear sandbox.

Then there's the scaling and the leveling.

I dunno, whenever I read about One Tamriel I think: this is kinda good, but what if these had been the premises they designed the game on originally?

Holiday events are a big plus though in making Tamriel feel more alive in between updates, given that the game world is quite static.