starkerealm wrote: »
Stovahkiin wrote: »They shouldn't be adding lockboxes at all.
starkerealm wrote: »Stovahkiin wrote: »They shouldn't be adding lockboxes at all.
The promise of no lockboxes was the entire thing that actually got me to come back when they announced Tamriel Unlimited. I mean, that specific assurance. Not, "oh, hey, don't need a sub." Not, "oh, hey we cleaned up the goldsellers" (which they did, but didn't say), no, no lockboxes was the dealmaker... and now, it's the dealbreaker. Funny how that works out.
Stovahkiin wrote: »starkerealm wrote: »Stovahkiin wrote: »They shouldn't be adding lockboxes at all.
The promise of no lockboxes was the entire thing that actually got me to come back when they announced Tamriel Unlimited. I mean, that specific assurance. Not, "oh, hey, don't need a sub." Not, "oh, hey we cleaned up the goldsellers" (which they did, but didn't say), no, no lockboxes was the dealmaker... and now, it's the dealbreaker. Funny how that works out.
Yep, and yet some people still get upset when we point out that Zeni is just cash grabbing now.
starkerealm wrote: »Stovahkiin wrote: »starkerealm wrote: »Stovahkiin wrote: »They shouldn't be adding lockboxes at all.
The promise of no lockboxes was the entire thing that actually got me to come back when they announced Tamriel Unlimited. I mean, that specific assurance. Not, "oh, hey, don't need a sub." Not, "oh, hey we cleaned up the goldsellers" (which they did, but didn't say), no, no lockboxes was the dealmaker... and now, it's the dealbreaker. Funny how that works out.
Yep, and yet some people still get upset when we point out that Zeni is just cash grabbing now.
A couple weeks ago I was in a thread, someone datamined up the old skill maxer, and was waving it around screaming, "hey, Pay to Win is coming, PAY TO WIN IS COMING!!! IT'S THE END OF ALL THINGS!!! BWAAAAHHHHLLLLLLL! heh heheh."
Though... not exactly in those words.
People were freaking out. Because, "hey, look, here's a CR180 item designed to max out all your skill lines."
I actually kinda regret putting that fire out now, and pointing out that it was an item from the test server they used to use for making template characters, and not something that was ever available on live.
I used to go to bat for these guys.
Now? Not so much, and the reason is two words, "*** lockboxes."
Stovahkiin wrote: »starkerealm wrote: »Stovahkiin wrote: »They shouldn't be adding lockboxes at all.
The promise of no lockboxes was the entire thing that actually got me to come back when they announced Tamriel Unlimited. I mean, that specific assurance. Not, "oh, hey, don't need a sub." Not, "oh, hey we cleaned up the goldsellers" (which they did, but didn't say), no, no lockboxes was the dealmaker... and now, it's the dealbreaker. Funny how that works out.
Yep, and yet some people still get upset when we point out that Zeni is just cash grabbing now.
bowmanz607 wrote: »I would sure hope loyalty rewards are never in it. then I would have a problem. it would be a slap in the face to the people who have stuck around through it all. it would likely be the end for me. I would no longer be able to justify contributing to a company that does that to their loyal members.
am I missing something with these boxes. it is just cosmetic stuff, mounts etc. Basically what is already in the store right? just random.
so long as they stick to crap like that I could care less. none of it helps in combat. I won't buy it. go ahead if you want to I suppose, but I'm not wasting money on it.
the second they start dropping gear, skill line upgrades, gold, weapons etc is when they have crossed the line. that is when the game goes pay to win. currently it is still but to play with a shop to make you look better.
Stovahkiin wrote: »starkerealm wrote: »Stovahkiin wrote: »They shouldn't be adding lockboxes at all.
The promise of no lockboxes was the entire thing that actually got me to come back when they announced Tamriel Unlimited. I mean, that specific assurance. Not, "oh, hey, don't need a sub." Not, "oh, hey we cleaned up the goldsellers" (which they did, but didn't say), no, no lockboxes was the dealmaker... and now, it's the dealbreaker. Funny how that works out.
Yep, and yet some people still get upset when we point out that Zeni is just cash grabbing now.
And yet, here you are!
Daemons_Bane wrote: »Being a player who's been her since the beginning, I can really not see the problem about loyalty rewards being put in the boxes.. Are you guys so afraid not to be the most special.? Why not let other people enjoy the cool things that the game can offer..
Daemons_Bane wrote: »Being a player who's been her since the beginning, I can really not see the problem about loyalty rewards being put in the boxes.. Are you guys so afraid not to be the most special.? Why not let other people enjoy the cool things that the game can offer..
JamieAubrey wrote: »Kinda defeats the purpose of subbing then ? I hope not, that's the whole point in being a loyal subscriber, to get limited rewards for supporting the game
ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »No, Crown Crates will not include the old loyalty rewards.
drakhan2002_ESO wrote: »Daemons_Bane wrote: »Being a player who's been her since the beginning, I can really not see the problem about loyalty rewards being put in the boxes.. Are you guys so afraid not to be the most special.? Why not let other people enjoy the cool things that the game can offer..
I guess you don't get what means to work for something...or to be loyal to something...or to be at the right place at the right time. Anyway, its not about being the most special...it's about me sticking through the game...through thick and thin...and having the foresight to buy something when it was made available.
bowmanz607 wrote: »Daemons_Bane wrote: »Being a player who's been her since the beginning, I can really not see the problem about loyalty rewards being put in the boxes.. Are you guys so afraid not to be the most special.? Why not let other people enjoy the cool things that the game can offer..
yes I do like having something that many other people do not have. I like not having the same thing that everyone with some money can get. something that requires time to get and not straight up money. I also like having something to show off how long I have been around and to establish all the crap I have been through. most importantly, it establishes my loyalty to the game and the last remaining thing that reminds me that despite the cash shop and other negative things zos has done they have at least kept their word on something. Putting these in a cash shop come tell underminds the whole thing and is a slap in the face to the players.
theres a whole list of things that should be sorted first that could bring players back... before putting a tiger in a stupid box that will have a RNG of prob 500 to 1 tiger... cant help but wonder with the limited amount of content from shadows of hist dlc ZOS is screaming for subs and cash ( why else bring out a LOCKBOX with im guessing RNG) to produce solid dlc after the massive list of game issues prior to this new dlc LESSON LEARN ZOS??Daemons_Bane wrote: »drakhan2002_ESO wrote: »Daemons_Bane wrote: »Being a player who's been her since the beginning, I can really not see the problem about loyalty rewards being put in the boxes.. Are you guys so afraid not to be the most special.? Why not let other people enjoy the cool things that the game can offer..
I guess you don't get what means to work for something...or to be loyal to something...or to be at the right place at the right time. Anyway, its not about being the most special...it's about me sticking through the game...through thick and thin...and having the foresight to buy something when it was made available.
I know just fine.. And please don't call it work it's still just a game.. But I don't have a problem with sharing either.. If putting a tiger in a box could get us more players, start putting tigers in boxes..
dimensional wrote: »Everyone disappointed in these boxes and/or calling it a "cash grab" is displaying their ignorance on business, in general. Literally nothing about the inclusion of these reward crates will negatively impact the game, and to simply click your tongues and fold your arms in disappointment at the idea of ZOS trying to make money off of their product is just juvenile and petty.