Storm Knight 5 piece bonus is bugged/scaled incorrectly at Champ 160

Ryuho · August 2016

Chuga_Rei wrote: »

No matter what level you cursor over it shows it adjusted to your personal damage

Exactly this. Just equip this set without any CPs and with bassic spell dmg, and u will see the diffrence.

KenaPKK · August 2016

Damage output does not scale linearly with increasing CP ranks, though.

Honestly, if the damage were lower, would the set even be viable in PvP?

The Battle Spirit bit is questionable though.

Darnathian · August 2016

Synozeer wrote: »

The problem is that the 10% proc rate is procing 100% of the time, and sometimes on things that don't seem like they should proc it. If it only proced 10% of the time and on correct damage types, then it makes sense that the set damage is high since it won't be near as active as it is now.

So basically you released a video showcasing a set you know is bugged??

Lulz.

Xsorus · August 2016

It increases based on the CP value and Spell Power.

Magicka Might play an effect as well..

Delves for around 8300 on my Nightblade (before equipping it)

It delves for around 3k or on my Stam DK, and 5k on my toon with 20% Damage Bonus and no Spell Power or Magicka

Also it is affected by Battle Spirit; You can see it clearly in Synozeer Video where he's hitting people for around 2k or so (which means his is delving around 5k)

frozywozy · August 2016

Pandorii wrote: »

I find this thread interesting. OP starts off by bringing to light a potentially bugged set and asks for the dev's position. OP provides evidence.

What I don't understand is why members of the community are attacking the OPs claim and asking for evidence. Clearly the OP and others are doing their best to provide this evidence for the greater good of the community, with their own personal time. At the end of the day, the call will be made by the devs. Evidence will help their investigation.

What I'm really curious about is what would motivate members of the community to challenge the authenticity of the OP's suspicion? I'm not going to lie. I think the only reason would be because the accusers 'wear' this broken set and want it to stay a secret and exploit it. But I don't want to be an accuser myself. So instead, I'll ask: why not try testing the set out yourselves instead of challenging the validity of the OP's attempts to provide evidence for the dev's investigation of a potentially broken set.

That is all.

People challenging the authenticity of the OP have all been using it tuesday evening and had a blast fulling the death recaps of all players with it. They obviously don't want it to be looked at.

KisoValley · August 2016

Pandorii wrote: »

I find this thread interesting. OP starts off by bringing to light a potentially bugged set and asks for the dev's position. OP provides evidence.

What I don't understand is why members of the community are attacking the OPs claim and asking for evidence. Clearly the OP and others are doing their best to provide this evidence for the greater good of the community, with their own personal time. At the end of the day, the call will be made by the devs. Evidence will help their investigation.

What I'm really curious about is what would motivate members of the community to challenge the authenticity of the OP's suspicion? I'm not going to lie. I think the only reason would be because the accusers 'wear' this broken set and want it to stay a secret and exploit it. But I don't want to be an accuser myself. So instead, I'll ask: why not try testing the set out yourselves instead of challenging the validity of the OP's attempts to provide evidence for the dev's investigation of a potentially broken set.

That is all.

@Pandorii Sorry where is the evidence? Please point it out to me because I and others cannot see the evidence unlike you.

Chuga_Rei · August 2016

frozywozy wrote: »

People challenging the authenticity of the OP have all been using it tuesday evening and had a blast fulling the death recaps of all players with it. They obviously don't want it to be looked at.

If people didnt want it to be looked it why would azoi have made a video show casing it lol?

Frozn, between your hilarious shenanigans with all the ladies in tamriel and now this you slay me. I never know what silly thing you are going to say or do next!

Chuga_Rei · August 2016

KisoValley wrote: »

@Pandorii Sorry where is the evidence? Please point it out to me because I and others cannot see the evidence unlike you.

apparently hearsay is evidence.

Azoi is the only one who posted screen shots and the response to him was pretty much "NAW FAM DAT AINT IT" lol

oh well, the great thing is people are going to be buying this like hot cakes and I just happen to go and clean it out of most of the guild stores lol. Too bad they are going to be very disappointed with the damage output lol.

Bashev · August 2016

Chuga_Rei wrote: »

KisoValley wrote: »

@Pandorii Sorry where is the evidence? Please point it out to me because I and others cannot see the evidence unlike you.

apparently hearsay is evidence.

Azoi is the only one who posted screen shots and the response to him was pretty much "NAW FAM DAT AINT IT" lol

oh well, the great thing is people are going to be buying this like hot cakes and I just happen to go and clean it out of most of the guild stores lol. Too bad they are going to be very disappointed with the damage output lol.

In Azoi's video you can see clearly that the damage is not so high as described by OP. The max tick that he had was 5k for a crit. I will test the set tonight and I will write my feedback later.

Minno · August 2016

frozywozy wrote: »

Pandorii wrote: »

I find this thread interesting. OP starts off by bringing to light a potentially bugged set and asks for the dev's position. OP provides evidence.

What I don't understand is why members of the community are attacking the OPs claim and asking for evidence. Clearly the OP and others are doing their best to provide this evidence for the greater good of the community, with their own personal time. At the end of the day, the call will be made by the devs. Evidence will help their investigation.

What I'm really curious about is what would motivate members of the community to challenge the authenticity of the OP's suspicion? I'm not going to lie. I think the only reason would be because the accusers 'wear' this broken set and want it to stay a secret and exploit it. But I don't want to be an accuser myself. So instead, I'll ask: why not try testing the set out yourselves instead of challenging the validity of the OP's attempts to provide evidence for the dev's investigation of a potentially broken set.

That is all.

People challenging the authenticity of the OP have all been using it tuesday evening and had a blast fulling the death recaps of all players with it. They obviously don't want it to be looked at.

In that thread he says this set might be bugged but needed to test since it concerns the proc rate not dmg number.

If I remember correctly zos removed the spell dmg bonuses but wanted the final dmg to not be halfed by battle spirit. These damages can be increased by champion points and other traits.

Iyas · August 2016

Wtb Storm knight shield on EU

Bashev · August 2016

Iyas wrote: »

Wtb Storm knight shield on EU

I bought one 80cp. Does it drop in 160cp? I couldnt find it anywhere.

yodased · August 2016

I believe that they mistakenly have this procing on anything class related, not just spell damage, but being a magic user I can't confirm.

I also believe that multiple people wearing this will stack the AOE on you, as during a bridge fight last night, there were some wtf aoe damage deaths for me, not that me dying is suspect, but just walking through 2-3 people and dying is a strange feeling.

Bashev · August 2016

yodased wrote: »

I believe that they mistakenly have this procing on anything class related, not just spell damage, but being a magic user I can't confirm.

I also believe that multiple people wearing this will stack the AOE on you, as during a bridge fight last night, there were some wtf aoe damage deaths for me, not that me dying is suspect, but just walking through 2-3 people and dying is a strange feeling.

Of course it should stack. When the set proc, it is like impulse every 2 seconds around you. If the set proc on 10 players everyone fire these impulses every 2 seconds.

yodased · August 2016

0.o so this is the anti 1vX set then, got it.

I'm staying out of what should and shouldn't be as that is a conversation that doesn't end well.

Bashev · August 2016

yodased wrote: »

0.o so this is the anti 1vX set then, got it.

I'm staying out of what should and shouldn't be as that is a conversation that doesn't end well.

I didnt want to push you, i just wanted to explain why you can receive the damage from several players. Though if i remember correctly twin sister set dot was stackable from multiple players too.

Rickter · August 2016

aw man. . . i deconned boots and legs of this set last night. . .

one infused, the other divines.

we need an ongoing "sets that no one cared about but now dictate as the meta" thread so i can stay up to date.

Synozeer · August 2016

Darnathian wrote: »

Synozeer wrote: »

The problem is that the 10% proc rate is procing 100% of the time, and sometimes on things that don't seem like they should proc it. If it only proced 10% of the time and on correct damage types, then it makes sense that the set damage is high since it won't be near as active as it is now.

So basically you released a video showcasing a set you know is bugged??

Lulz.

Basically I made a video using a set that no one had really used extensively in live PvP before. By doing that, I started to see there was something off. I didn't know it was bugged when I began using it, and didn't know exactly what was bugged or to what extent except from continued use.

I do not think the damage is bugged - it is getting battle leveled and is scalable through CP and spell power. However, what does appear to be bugged is how it procs - the proc rate is near 100% instead of 10%. It also procs off all magicka abilities, but we don't know if that was purposely done or not. I have seen it proc off some siege (like fire), and *maybe* weapon enchants that are magicka based (like shock, cold, fire) might proc it.

Because the set is procing near 100% of the time, it is very strong in group situations. I think once it gets fixed to be 10%, it's not going to be as consistent (but still strong).

Xsorus · August 2016

Ok....Set Scales based on Spell Power/Magicka/CP Points.
It doesn't matter what VR level the actual set is either, I had the VR12 one delving for 10k on my Sorc with Ease;
the vr16 version was like 100-200 damage more.

So if ya wanna Stack a ton of Magicka and Spell Power you can make it actually hit pretty decently. Will be a decent off set for a Sorc or a Magicka DK for example..and for Blazing Shield Builds.

Xsorus · August 2016

Synozeer wrote: »

Darnathian wrote: »

Synozeer wrote: »

The problem is that the 10% proc rate is procing 100% of the time, and sometimes on things that don't seem like they should proc it. If it only proced 10% of the time and on correct damage types, then it makes sense that the set damage is high since it won't be near as active as it is now.

So basically you released a video showcasing a set you know is bugged??

Lulz.

Basically I made a video using a set that no one had really used extensively in live PvP before. By doing that, I started to see there was something off. I didn't know it was bugged when I began using it, and didn't know exactly what was bugged or to what extent except from continued use.

I do not think the damage is bugged - it is getting battle leveled and is scalable through CP and spell power. However, what does appear to be bugged is how it procs - the proc rate is near 100% instead of 10%. It also procs off all magicka abilities, but we don't know if that was purposely done or not. I have seen it proc off some siege (like fire), and *maybe* weapon enchants that are magicka based (like shock, cold, fire) might proc it.

Because the set is procing near 100% of the time, it is very strong in group situations. I think once it gets fixed to be 10%, it's not going to be as consistent (but still strong).

I'll go ahead and tell ya, usually when ZOS updates a set to VR16, if its a value like 10% chance to go off..Its going to be 100% chance to go off...They're super bad with decimals.

Rohamad_Ali · August 2016

This explains recent price increases .

Xsorus · August 2016

Rohamad_Ali wrote: »

This explains recent price increases .

Yea it took me forever to find rings even before Synozeer released his video.

Just ended up selling it cause the way it scales...Build I was going to use it for was Blazing Shield Templar like Syn but I just don't know how useful it would of been at doing a 2k aoe...

Think i'd rather just cheese people with Duroks/Fasalla Combo

Darnathian · August 2016

Synozeer wrote: »

Darnathian wrote: »

Synozeer wrote: »

The problem is that the 10% proc rate is procing 100% of the time, and sometimes on things that don't seem like they should proc it. If it only proced 10% of the time and on correct damage types, then it makes sense that the set damage is high since it won't be near as active as it is now.

So basically you released a video showcasing a set you know is bugged??

Lulz.

Basically I made a video using a set that no one had really used extensively in live PvP before. By doing that, I started to see there was something off. I didn't know it was bugged when I began using it, and didn't know exactly what was bugged or to what extent except from continued use.

I do not think the damage is bugged - it is getting battle leveled and is scalable through CP and spell power. However, what does appear to be bugged is how it procs - the proc rate is near 100% instead of 10%. It also procs off all magicka abilities, but we don't know if that was purposely done or not. I have seen it proc off some siege (like fire), and *maybe* weapon enchants that are magicka based (like shock, cold, fire) might proc it.

Because the set is procing near 100% of the time, it is very strong in group situations. I think once it gets fixed to be 10%, it's not going to be as consistent (but still strong).

And i have a hunch it will not be featured in your videos once its fixed and doesnt proc as much. ☺️

Magus · August 2016

Xsorus wrote: »

Rohamad_Ali wrote: »

This explains recent price increases .

Yea it took me forever to find rings even before Synozeer released his video.

Just ended up selling it cause the way it scales...Build I was going to use it for was Blazing Shield Templar like Syn but I just don't know how useful it would of been at doing a 2k aoe...

Think i'd rather just cheese people with Duroks/Fasalla Combo

Same, I thought about grabbing some pieces knowing that the prices would go up. I'd have to lose like 318 spell damage on an already low spell damage build to run it on my templar, so after spending like 10 minutes trying to find pieces at guild stores, gave up on it.

We did fight Hzarn last night, it wasn't really a big issue with blazing shield/storm knight. I called out trollpar and told no one to hit him and to kill him last. Prett is a more priority target, since he seems to just spam healing wards for all his allies. Fighting FMC, basically kill Braidas and Hzarn last. Go for their sorcs first and Subtomik is always a fan favorite to kill too.

Minno · August 2016

Rohamad_Ali wrote: »

This explains recent price increases .

Capitalism brings out the vultures in us.

Rylana · August 2016

Magus wrote: »

Xsorus wrote: »

Rohamad_Ali wrote: »

This explains recent price increases .

Yea it took me forever to find rings even before Synozeer released his video.

Just ended up selling it cause the way it scales...Build I was going to use it for was Blazing Shield Templar like Syn but I just don't know how useful it would of been at doing a 2k aoe...

Think i'd rather just cheese people with Duroks/Fasalla Combo

Same, I thought about grabbing some pieces knowing that the prices would go up. I'd have to lose like 318 spell damage on an already low spell damage build to run it on my templar, so after spending like 10 minutes trying to find pieces at guild stores, gave up on it.

We did fight Hzarn last night, it wasn't really a big issue with blazing shield/storm knight. I called out trollpar and told no one to hit him and to kill him last. Prett is a more priority target, since he seems to just spam healing wards for all his allies. Fighting FMC, basically kill Braidas and Hzarn last. Go for their sorcs first and Subtomik is always a fan favorite to kill too.

A sorc damage build running this set is absolutely deadly. (as long as you can keep it alive) It can proc disintegrate, as well as gets all the bonuses from the storm calling line and so on. Its not funny at all. The potential honestly scares me.

Xsorus · August 2016

Darnathian wrote: »

Synozeer wrote: »

Darnathian wrote: »

Synozeer wrote: »

The problem is that the 10% proc rate is procing 100% of the time, and sometimes on things that don't seem like they should proc it. If it only proced 10% of the time and on correct damage types, then it makes sense that the set damage is high since it won't be near as active as it is now.

So basically you released a video showcasing a set you know is bugged??

Lulz.

Basically I made a video using a set that no one had really used extensively in live PvP before. By doing that, I started to see there was something off. I didn't know it was bugged when I began using it, and didn't know exactly what was bugged or to what extent except from continued use.

I do not think the damage is bugged - it is getting battle leveled and is scalable through CP and spell power. However, what does appear to be bugged is how it procs - the proc rate is near 100% instead of 10%. It also procs off all magicka abilities, but we don't know if that was purposely done or not. I have seen it proc off some siege (like fire), and *maybe* weapon enchants that are magicka based (like shock, cold, fire) might proc it.

Because the set is procing near 100% of the time, it is very strong in group situations. I think once it gets fixed to be 10%, it's not going to be as consistent (but still strong).

And i have a hunch it will not be featured in your videos once its fixed and doesnt proc as much. ☺️

I think you underestimate how much this set will proc on a Blazing Shield Templar considering what he fights.

Magus · August 2016

Rylana wrote: »

Magus wrote: »

Xsorus wrote: »

Rohamad_Ali wrote: »

This explains recent price increases .

Yea it took me forever to find rings even before Synozeer released his video.

Just ended up selling it cause the way it scales...Build I was going to use it for was Blazing Shield Templar like Syn but I just don't know how useful it would of been at doing a 2k aoe...

Think i'd rather just cheese people with Duroks/Fasalla Combo

Same, I thought about grabbing some pieces knowing that the prices would go up. I'd have to lose like 318 spell damage on an already low spell damage build to run it on my templar, so after spending like 10 minutes trying to find pieces at guild stores, gave up on it.

We did fight Hzarn last night, it wasn't really a big issue with blazing shield/storm knight. I called out trollpar and told no one to hit him and to kill him last. Prett is a more priority target, since he seems to just spam healing wards for all his allies. Fighting FMC, basically kill Braidas and Hzarn last. Go for their sorcs first and Subtomik is always a fan favorite to kill too.

A sorc damage build running this set is absolutely deadly. (as long as you can keep it alive) It can proc disintegrate, as well as gets all the bonuses from the storm calling line and so on. Its not funny at all. The potential honestly scares me.

Sure, they would have to stand in the poo and unless they are combining it with heavy armor and sword and shield, they are going to die. Though I was happy to see Fengrush running a sorc utility tank build, so it's cool to see other sorc builds being used besides the normal. Right now, a large portion of sorcs run identical skill bars. I would see it being more dangerous on a build more similar to Fengrush since you have hurricane combined with storm knight and riposte. Negating tank lol.

Xsorus · August 2016

Rylana wrote: »

Magus wrote: »

Xsorus wrote: »

Rohamad_Ali wrote: »

This explains recent price increases .

Yea it took me forever to find rings even before Synozeer released his video.

Just ended up selling it cause the way it scales...Build I was going to use it for was Blazing Shield Templar like Syn but I just don't know how useful it would of been at doing a 2k aoe...

Think i'd rather just cheese people with Duroks/Fasalla Combo

Same, I thought about grabbing some pieces knowing that the prices would go up. I'd have to lose like 318 spell damage on an already low spell damage build to run it on my templar, so after spending like 10 minutes trying to find pieces at guild stores, gave up on it.

We did fight Hzarn last night, it wasn't really a big issue with blazing shield/storm knight. I called out trollpar and told no one to hit him and to kill him last. Prett is a more priority target, since he seems to just spam healing wards for all his allies. Fighting FMC, basically kill Braidas and Hzarn last. Go for their sorcs first and Subtomik is always a fan favorite to kill too.

A sorc damage build running this set is absolutely deadly. (as long as you can keep it alive) It can proc disintegrate, as well as gets all the bonuses from the storm calling line and so on. Its not funny at all. The potential honestly scares me.

I'd thought about trying this set on a Magicka Sorc a while back...I think you could do a Tank Build with one. Could probably do something lame like Pet Build + Stormknight.

Like for example, High Elf Stormknight + Necropotence with Malubeth would work....Rely on your Pets and things like Storm knight to kill

If they ever make Thunderous Come back you could do some interesting stuff with it as well

Manoekin · August 2016

Waiting for the inevitable twin sister + stormknight build. When is leeching plate getting buffed