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Would farming a million ap in less then 24 hours be considered an exploit

  • Skinzz
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    Soundwave wrote: »
    Lately its been team purple, wasn't around for team green. I have nothing against alliances helping each other, its part of the game. But when u have a huge map why stick to one castle, counter attack. They push one castle, u counter attack and defend at same time. No one does, everyone wants AP, thats all cyrodill had turns into.

    Wow where have u been lol. DC is the biggest threat in haderus so no way on earth the reds are helping them. They turned it into a buff campaign for too long.
    Edited by Skinzz on August 19, 2016 2:50PM
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  • Kas
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    absolutely possible. solo, I usually average around 50k/h (sure this may be much lower when there are little to no enemies during the late night / early morning). More is possible, especially with groups. However, it's VERY fishy if the player is not really seen fighting. Especially in a group, he would have to be part of the BIG battles. Even solo he'd have to change spots frequently. You just don't get that much fresh fodder if you're camping IC remote spots only.

    Tbh i think AP boosting with friends (in an okay-ish form by his group giving fairly-earned ticks to him, but also in the as***le form of friends suiciding to him) is probably the most realistic possibility here.
    Edited by Kas on August 19, 2016 2:56PM
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  • Sandman929
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    Soundwave wrote: »
    Lately its been team purple, wasn't around for team green. I have nothing against alliances helping each other, its part of the game. But when u have a huge map why stick to one castle, counter attack. They push one castle, u counter attack and defend at same time. No one does, everyone wants AP, thats all cyrodill had turns into.

    We're not helping each other, at least not that I've seen. The problem is when Red has Emp, Yellow keeps pushing up the Ash side, so yeah we have to do something about that. I look at the map sometimes and I'm just astounded. When EP has AD's home keeps, what the hell is AD doing pushing Glademist?
  • Sandman929
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    xskinzcity wrote: »
    Soundwave wrote: »
    Lately its been team purple, wasn't around for team green. I have nothing against alliances helping each other, its part of the game. But when u have a huge map why stick to one castle, counter attack. They push one castle, u counter attack and defend at same time. No one does, everyone wants AP, thats all cyrodill had turns into.

    Wow where have u been lol. DC is the biggest threat in haderus so no way on earth the reds are helping them. They turned it into a buff campaign for too long.

    This. It was turning into a DC buff campaign and it was getting a little boring. I think this is why AD keeps pushing DC while EP has Emp...vengence, habit, who knows?
  • Soundwave
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    In the last couple days we had four castles twices. So its time to push for scrolls, that choice ad makes. What happens we loose everything in ten minutes. Keep in mind it took us all day to acquire. Scrolls r cool in all, but emp trumps them, especially when you're so close.
  • Soundwave
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    xskinzcity wrote: »
    Soundwave wrote: »
    Lately its been team purple, wasn't around for team green. I have nothing against alliances helping each other, its part of the game. But when u have a huge map why stick to one castle, counter attack. They push one castle, u counter attack and defend at same time. No one does, everyone wants AP, thats all cyrodill had turns into.

    Wow where have u been lol. DC is the biggest threat in haderus so no way on earth the reds are helping them. They turned it into a buff campaign for too long.

    From the yellow stand point its team purple, especially on different days of the week. DC controls, but also helps. I've seen red take keep, red leave so blue can have it and vicer versa.
  • Sandman929
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    Soundwave wrote: »
    In the last couple days we had four castles twices. So its time to push for scrolls, that choice ad makes. What happens we loose everything in ten minutes. Keep in mind it took us all day to acquire. Scrolls r cool in all, but emp trumps them, especially when you're so close.

    EP seems to have crazy numbers right now, but dethroning is more important than scrolls. The two front war should always be against whichever faction has Emp, then worry about scrolls.
  • Sandman929
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    Soundwave wrote: »
    xskinzcity wrote: »
    Soundwave wrote: »
    Lately its been team purple, wasn't around for team green. I have nothing against alliances helping each other, its part of the game. But when u have a huge map why stick to one castle, counter attack. They push one castle, u counter attack and defend at same time. No one does, everyone wants AP, thats all cyrodill had turns into.

    Wow where have u been lol. DC is the biggest threat in haderus so no way on earth the reds are helping them. They turned it into a buff campaign for too long.

    From the yellow stand point its team purple, especially on different days of the week. DC controls, but also helps. I've seen red take keep, red leave so blue can have it and vicer versa.

    I haven't seen anything like this, which isn't to say it can't possibly be happening, but I haven't seen it. EP isn't giving up anything without a ridiculously long fight so far in this campaign.
  • Soundwave
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    Well with latest increase in cp and the new dungeon over power sets, 5 man can take a castle. Increase the number guards, where is faction kings or queens. Why is castles so crappy guarded by ncp.
  • Forestd16b14_ESO
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    Soundwave wrote: »
    Just seems like everyone is ap farming these days and not playing the game, how its suppose. Who can acquire the most AP the fastest, y not implement an emp timer or if an emp dies then second place get emp. Just seems like more and more people care about their AP, then actually trying to controlling cyrodill. Well on Xbox..

    Well some of my friend did suggest that when you become a empeoer/empress you start a cool down of 30 days. Like you can be emp as long as you want but as soon as you get de-throne you can not become emp again for 30 days. So you maybe number 1 on the leaderboards but number 2 will become emp if you crown and same thing if number 2 becomes emp and get de-throne and so on.

    It just a way to stop cheese players from getting emp over and over and let some players who have lives and can't play 50+ hours to have a chance to become emp.
  • Skinzz
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    Do you remember when reds coulsnt even push out of arrius not too long ago? Yellows trying to farm reds at mine and blues trying to farm at lumber. The ep text chat is extremely active plus emp is putting in work so thats why the reds are strong af right now
    Anybody got a group? LFG, anybody? Hello?
  • Soundwave
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    Soundwave wrote: »
    Just seems like everyone is ap farming these days and not playing the game, how its suppose. Who can acquire the most AP the fastest, y not implement an emp timer or if an emp dies then second place get emp. Just seems like more and more people care about their AP, then actually trying to controlling cyrodill. Well on Xbox..

    Well some of my friend did suggest that when you become a empeoer/empress you start a cool down of 30 days. Like you can be emp as long as you want but as soon as you get de-throne you can not become emp again for 30 days. So you maybe number 1 on the leaderboards but number 2 will become emp if you crown and same thing if number 2 becomes emp and get de-throne and so on.

    It just a way to stop cheese players from getting emp over and over and let some players who have lives and can't play 50+ hours to have a chance to become emp.

    Getting emp is broken thats was to see, why not have 3 emp at the same one from each faction. Now thats a duel match i would bet on
  • Sandman929
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    xskinzcity wrote: »
    Do you remember when reds coulsnt even push out of arrius not too long ago? Yellows trying to farm reds at mine and blues trying to farm at lumber. The ep text chat is extremely active plus emp is putting in work so thats why the reds are strong af right now

    Haderus was fun for about 2 weeks when I first came to the campaign....then it was entirely too Blue for a couple of weeks. Now I wouldn't say it's too Red, but it's just too populated. I hate queuing in at position 160 just to play in lag where ultimates firing is a 50/50 chance.

  • Crown
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    donJay wrote: »
    Pretty sure @Crown got caught doing something like that. Hence his disappearance.

    @donJay Nope - I just got bored of the game, the bugs, the lag, and the politics. I log in once in a while to chat / be social with old friends, and still play with the Venatus crew once in a while on my Templar (Naitachal) or DK (Nait). I'll probably be on tonight for a bit - you're welcome to pst me @crown77

    My wife and I started playing ESO after we lost our home to a fire, and needed a distraction from real life. We met playing WoW a few years earlier, so an MMO was a reasonable choice. Our lives are back on track now, we have a new home in a new city, I've started a new company, and most of our free time is spent doing real life things. ESO served its purpose for us, and we had a great time when we played. My ESO guides introduction section had a note about when I stopped playing a few months ago.

    @Soundwave Most good AP farmers easily make 50-100k / hour - especially with AP gains being doubled as compared to the days when I was playing regularly. Making over a million in a day is easy if all you're focusing on is AP farming. People who play for the campaign and the map will *almost* never make as much as an AP farmer. That's one of the big issues that people just don't seem to understand.. You can be an amazing player, a fantastic duellist, a solid leader, have the best build, etc, but none of that makes you an AP farmer. I was (arguably) one of the best AP farmers in the game (PC/AD/NA) and the first to reach AR50 for AD/NA, and many people who were better duellists or solo players couldn't understand the why they never made as much AP.

    Back in the day there were a few tricks to make a lot more AP, such as:
    1. Look for two opposing factions fighting, and throw out a lot of inevitable detonations so that you do sufficient damage that regardless of who kills who, you get AP from it. I had more than a few 200+k / hour sessions doing that, and even more when Vicious Death first came out.
    2. Run with one or two friends who don't mind surrendering their AP to you. You can figure out the exact distance for keeping AP benefits on kills. Have the one or two (best with NBs) throw out DoTs and an inevitable, then run away. You fear the target(s) just before the dets proc - then get the killing blows, and since you're the only one in range regardless of how much damage they did, you get all the AP. This gets boring very quickly.
    3. In a group, if people move away from a tick after a good fight with a lot of kills, you can gain the benefit of all their AP. Back in the day on the first day of campaign resets, we would see a particular DC player jumping 50k AP at a time. This is called the "Moon DiE tick" as a player back in the first days of the game (named Moon DiE / guild leader of DiE) would have everyone move away from him so that he got those big ticks.
    4. Resource farm. There used to be methods via keeping a HoT on guards to have all them focus one attacker (whoever attacks you - since you're the one with the heals on them - rather than whoever they notice first). As long as no more than 4-5 opponents came to the resource at once, you were pretty much assured to kill them all solo or duo (much easier duo). The last time I logged in to make some videos this is what I was doing. There were about 10 opponents that kept coming back, and I was making about 150k / hour. It pissed off a lot of people who weren't able to keep up with my AP gains.
    5. As a NB, use an insta-kill build. I believe that the proxy -> cloak -> soul tether -> impale those left who didn't die to a VD explosion still works well enough, and if you can find a group of 5 opponents to do this to every few minutes, you can easily make 100k+ / hour. This gets boring very quickly too. Most of the fun I had in the game was being social.
    Edited by Crown on August 19, 2016 7:20PM
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  • Sypher
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    I got 1 million AP during a 24 hour emp push stream solo. Too bad I didn't get emp though :(
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  • Jaronking
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    Sandman929 wrote: »
    xskinzcity wrote: »
    Do you remember when reds coulsnt even push out of arrius not too long ago? Yellows trying to farm reds at mine and blues trying to farm at lumber. The ep text chat is extremely active plus emp is putting in work so thats why the reds are strong af right now

    Haderus was fun for about 2 weeks when I first came to the campaign....then it was entirely too Blue for a couple of weeks. Now I wouldn't say it's too Red, but it's just too populated. I hate queuing in at position 160 just to play in lag where ultimates firing is a 50/50 chance.
    Lol come to Scrounge you won't have to worry about it becoming a DC buff server.

    So @xskinzcity when you coming back to Scrouge?EP need you guys.The map is bad.
  • Skinzz
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    Jaronking wrote: »
    Sandman929 wrote: »
    xskinzcity wrote: »
    Do you remember when reds coulsnt even push out of arrius not too long ago? Yellows trying to farm reds at mine and blues trying to farm at lumber. The ep text chat is extremely active plus emp is putting in work so thats why the reds are strong af right now

    Haderus was fun for about 2 weeks when I first came to the campaign....then it was entirely too Blue for a couple of weeks. Now I wouldn't say it's too Red, but it's just too populated. I hate queuing in at position 160 just to play in lag where ultimates firing is a 50/50 chance.
    Lol come to Scrounge you won't have to worry about it becoming a DC buff server.

    So @xskinzcity when you coming back to Scrouge?EP need you guys.The map is bad.

    Ill come back when my friend gets dethroned in haddy. Im still homed to scourge on my main.
    Anybody got a group? LFG, anybody? Hello?
  • Jaronking
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    xskinzcity wrote: »
    Jaronking wrote: »
    Sandman929 wrote: »
    xskinzcity wrote: »
    Do you remember when reds coulsnt even push out of arrius not too long ago? Yellows trying to farm reds at mine and blues trying to farm at lumber. The ep text chat is extremely active plus emp is putting in work so thats why the reds are strong af right now

    Haderus was fun for about 2 weeks when I first came to the campaign....then it was entirely too Blue for a couple of weeks. Now I wouldn't say it's too Red, but it's just too populated. I hate queuing in at position 160 just to play in lag where ultimates firing is a 50/50 chance.
    Lol come to Scrounge you won't have to worry about it becoming a DC buff server.

    So @xskinzcity when you coming back to Scrouge?EP need you guys.The map is bad.

    Ill come back when my friend gets dethroned in haddy. Im still homed to scourge on my main.
    So your never coming back. :(
  • Skinzz
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    Jaronking wrote: »
    xskinzcity wrote: »
    Jaronking wrote: »
    Sandman929 wrote: »
    xskinzcity wrote: »
    Do you remember when reds coulsnt even push out of arrius not too long ago? Yellows trying to farm reds at mine and blues trying to farm at lumber. The ep text chat is extremely active plus emp is putting in work so thats why the reds are strong af right now

    Haderus was fun for about 2 weeks when I first came to the campaign....then it was entirely too Blue for a couple of weeks. Now I wouldn't say it's too Red, but it's just too populated. I hate queuing in at position 160 just to play in lag where ultimates firing is a 50/50 chance.
    Lol come to Scrounge you won't have to worry about it becoming a DC buff server.

    So @xskinzcity when you coming back to Scrouge?EP need you guys.The map is bad.

    Ill come back when my friend gets dethroned in haddy. Im still homed to scourge on my main.
    So your never coming back. :(

    Lol i havent played there in only 2 days but each time i check the map the reds are stuck at arrius. Ad seems hella weak in haddy now since they all moved to scourge.
    Anybody got a group? LFG, anybody? Hello?
  • Jaronking
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    xskinzcity wrote: »
    Jaronking wrote: »
    xskinzcity wrote: »
    Jaronking wrote: »
    Sandman929 wrote: »
    xskinzcity wrote: »
    Do you remember when reds coulsnt even push out of arrius not too long ago? Yellows trying to farm reds at mine and blues trying to farm at lumber. The ep text chat is extremely active plus emp is putting in work so thats why the reds are strong af right now

    Haderus was fun for about 2 weeks when I first came to the campaign....then it was entirely too Blue for a couple of weeks. Now I wouldn't say it's too Red, but it's just too populated. I hate queuing in at position 160 just to play in lag where ultimates firing is a 50/50 chance.
    Lol come to Scrounge you won't have to worry about it becoming a DC buff server.

    So @xskinzcity when you coming back to Scrouge?EP need you guys.The map is bad.

    Ill come back when my friend gets dethroned in haddy. Im still homed to scourge on my main.
    So your never coming back. :(

    Lol i havent played there in only 2 days but each time i check the map the reds are stuck at arrius. Ad seems hella weak in haddy now since they all moved to scourge.
    Man EP haven't made it pass arruis until 7 pm est the last couple of days and DC so stupid when EP take arruis and get chalman what do DC do push ASH and help with the dethrone hell no,we push chalman.Do we even take chalman hell no AD takes it and guess where most of the blue are IC and arruis.It blows the crap out of me.AD need to spread some of their people back to Haderus and some DC to come here with a few EP to leave both campaign and it should even out a bit more.
  • SRASinister
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    Jaronking wrote: »
    xskinzcity wrote: »
    Jaronking wrote: »
    xskinzcity wrote: »
    Jaronking wrote: »
    Sandman929 wrote: »
    xskinzcity wrote: »
    Do you remember when reds coulsnt even push out of arrius not too long ago? Yellows trying to farm reds at mine and blues trying to farm at lumber. The ep text chat is extremely active plus emp is putting in work so thats why the reds are strong af right now

    Haderus was fun for about 2 weeks when I first came to the campaign....then it was entirely too Blue for a couple of weeks. Now I wouldn't say it's too Red, but it's just too populated. I hate queuing in at position 160 just to play in lag where ultimates firing is a 50/50 chance.
    Lol come to Scrounge you won't have to worry about it becoming a DC buff server.

    So @xskinzcity when you coming back to Scrouge?EP need you guys.The map is bad.

    Ill come back when my friend gets dethroned in haddy. Im still homed to scourge on my main.
    So your never coming back. :(

    Lol i havent played there in only 2 days but each time i check the map the reds are stuck at arrius. Ad seems hella weak in haddy now since they all moved to scourge.
    Man EP haven't made it pass arruis until 7 pm est the last couple of days and DC so stupid when EP take arruis and get chalman what do DC do push ASH and help with the dethrone hell no,we push chalman.Do we even take chalman hell no AD takes it and guess where most of the blue are IC and arruis.It blows the crap out of me.AD need to spread some of their people back to Haderus and some DC to come here with a few EP to leave both campaign and it should even out a bit more.

    Right now its politics in Scourge for EP because the two guilds that push for emp aren't pushing due to someone in the top ten running their mouth. Both guilds wanted Drew emp and probably would have pushed Dabs for emp since he said he would drop but the third place guy got people triggered. AD emp though right now is free ap since a group of 4 of us were farming him at sej this morning when he called five to seven other guys to help him.
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  • SRASinister
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    Not to mention the yellows in haderus are just walking ap kind of like how ep was. I love wiping the haderus AD since they always run even when they outnumber you by 3 to 4 times your number.
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  • zuto40
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    i might have to pay scourge a visit now since it seems so fun
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  • Jaronking
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    Jaronking wrote: »
    xskinzcity wrote: »
    Jaronking wrote: »
    xskinzcity wrote: »
    Jaronking wrote: »
    Sandman929 wrote: »
    xskinzcity wrote: »
    Do you remember when reds coulsnt even push out of arrius not too long ago? Yellows trying to farm reds at mine and blues trying to farm at lumber. The ep text chat is extremely active plus emp is putting in work so thats why the reds are strong af right now

    Haderus was fun for about 2 weeks when I first came to the campaign....then it was entirely too Blue for a couple of weeks. Now I wouldn't say it's too Red, but it's just too populated. I hate queuing in at position 160 just to play in lag where ultimates firing is a 50/50 chance.
    Lol come to Scrounge you won't have to worry about it becoming a DC buff server.

    So @xskinzcity when you coming back to Scrouge?EP need you guys.The map is bad.

    Ill come back when my friend gets dethroned in haddy. Im still homed to scourge on my main.
    So your never coming back. :(

    Lol i havent played there in only 2 days but each time i check the map the reds are stuck at arrius. Ad seems hella weak in haddy now since they all moved to scourge.
    Man EP haven't made it pass arruis until 7 pm est the last couple of days and DC so stupid when EP take arruis and get chalman what do DC do push ASH and help with the dethrone hell no,we push chalman.Do we even take chalman hell no AD takes it and guess where most of the blue are IC and arruis.It blows the crap out of me.AD need to spread some of their people back to Haderus and some DC to come here with a few EP to leave both campaign and it should even out a bit more.

    Right now its politics in Scourge for EP because the two guilds that push for emp aren't pushing due to someone in the top ten running their mouth. Both guilds wanted Drew emp and probably would have pushed Dabs for emp since he said he would drop but the third place guy got people triggered. AD emp though right now is free ap since a group of 4 of us were farming him at sej this morning when he called five to seven other guys to help him.
    Wasn't Drew running his month to a bunch of AD guilds saying they where all trash?OMG its not even funny how bad AD last two Emps are freaking Willkill was better.Personally I don't care who emp tbh I don't even want the dude in first place for DC to get.
  • SRASinister
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    Nah drew doesn't even talk trash to opposing factions in fact they kept messaging him.
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  • Jaronking
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    Nah drew doesn't even talk trash to opposing factions in fact they kept messaging him.
    Could have sworn it was him if you say it wasn't I believe you .
  • Soundwave
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    Crown wrote: »
    donJay wrote: »
    Pretty sure @Crown got caught doing something like that. Hence his disappearance.

    @donJay Nope - I just got bored of the game, the bugs, the lag, and the politics. I log in once in a while to chat / be social with old friends, and still play with the Venatus crew once in a while on my Templar (Naitachal) or DK (Nait). I'll probably be on tonight for a bit - you're welcome to pst me @crown77

    My wife and I started playing ESO after we lost our home to a fire, and needed a distraction from real life. We met playing WoW a few years earlier, so an MMO was a reasonable choice. Our lives are back on track now, we have a new home in a new city, I've started a new company, and most of our free time is spent doing real life things. ESO served its purpose for us, and we had a great time when we played. My ESO guides introduction section had a note about when I stopped playing a few months ago.

    @Soundwave Most good AP farmers easily make 50-100k / hour - especially with AP gains being doubled as compared to the days when I was playing regularly. Making over a million in a day is easy if all you're focusing on is AP farming. People who play for the campaign and the map will *almost* never make as much as an AP farmer. That's one of the big issues that people just don't seem to understand.. You can be an amazing player, a fantastic duellist, a solid leader, have the best build, etc, but none of that makes you an AP farmer. I was (arguably) one of the best AP farmers in the game (PC/AD/NA) and the first to reach AR50 for AD/NA, and many people who were better duellists or solo players couldn't understand the why they never made as much AP.

    Back in the day there were a few tricks to make a lot more AP, such as:
    1. Look for two opposing factions fighting, and throw out a lot of inevitable detonations so that you do sufficient damage that regardless of who kills who, you get AP from it. I had more than a few 200+k / hour sessions doing that, and even more when Vicious Death first came out.
    2. Run with one or two friends who don't mind surrendering their AP to you. You can figure out the exact distance for keeping AP benefits on kills. Have the one or two (best with NBs) throw out DoTs and an inevitable, then run away. You fear the target(s) just before the dets proc - then get the killing blows, and since you're the only one in range regardless of how much damage they did, you get all the AP. This gets boring very quickly.
    3. In a group, if people move away from a tick after a good fight with a lot of kills, you can gain the benefit of all their AP. Back in the day on the first day of campaign resets, we would see a particular DC player jumping 50k AP at a time. This is called the "Moon DiE tick" as a player back in the first days of the game (named Moon DiE / guild leader of DiE) would have everyone move away from him so that he got those big ticks.
    4. Resource farm. There used to be methods via keeping a HoT on guards to have all them focus one attacker (whoever attacks you - since you're the one with the heals on them - rather than whoever they notice first). As long as no more than 4-5 opponents came to the resource at once, you were pretty much assured to kill them all solo or duo (much easier duo). The last time I logged in to make some videos this is what I was doing. There were about 10 opponents that kept coming back, and I was making about 150k / hour. It pissed off a lot of people who weren't able to keep up with my AP gains.
    5. As a NB, use an insta-kill build. I believe that the proxy -> cloak -> soul tether -> impale those left who didn't die to a VD explosion still works well enough, and if you can find a group of 5 opponents to do this to every few minutes, you can easily make 100k+ / hour. This gets boring very quickly too. Most of the fun I had in the game was being social.

    Very thought out response, instead "yeah its possible". Thank u for that response.
  • leepalmer95
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    I got 1.1m in about 18 hours when i went for emp.

    Got emp at around 900k though.
    PS4 EU DC

    Current CP : 756+

    I have every character level 50, both a magicka and stamina version.


    RIP my effort to get 5x v16 characters...
  • Soundwave
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    Just seems getting AP shouldn't be the way u get Emp. Since everyone has said its easy to 1 million ap in 24 hours, a broken system i see. Getting Emp should be something that is a lot harder to acquire. Also adding restrictions or even a timer after u have been Emp, so u can't have repeat Emp's. Everyone should have fair but challenging chance at becoming Emp, AP is not. Maybe a point system, capturing resources 2 points, defending 1 point (must of time these r forgotten). Capturing a keep 3 points, defend 2. Capturing towns 1 point defend 1 point. AP should only be cyrodiil currency, dont need to change it how it is now, just separate it from Emp. Yes I know there r many programs with my idea, but I am just to think outside of the box. Also winning cyrodiil needs to have something that gets player to "want to come and try" maybe extend time on enlightened box, for winning cyrodiil your faction gets 1million extra XP enlightened. I know people are going to complain, back in it day it was so hard compared to now. Too keep members pay and getting new members to pay, u have to dumb down the game. Its a game, if they aren't making a profit; why keep,having service. Would u *** in wind,just to please yours.
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    Soundwave wrote: »
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    Just seems like everyone is ap farming these days and not playing the game, how its suppose. Who can acquire the most AP the fastest, y not implement an emp timer or if an emp dies then second place get emp. Just seems like more and more people care about their AP, then actually trying to controlling cyrodill. Well on Xbox..

    Well some of my friend did suggest that when you become a empeoer/empress you start a cool down of 30 days. Like you can be emp as long as you want but as soon as you get de-throne you can not become emp again for 30 days. So you maybe number 1 on the leaderboards but number 2 will become emp if you crown and same thing if number 2 becomes emp and get de-throne and so on.

    It just a way to stop cheese players from getting emp over and over and let some players who have lives and can't play 50+ hours to have a chance to become emp.

    Getting emp is broken thats was to see, why not have 3 emp at the same one from each faction. Now thats a duel match i would bet on

    I always thought that too. Call them the Hero or General for the faction. All with same powers. Peoblem would be though how could u catch up with them?

    Maybe if they die they lose all thier AP rank on leaderboard and start over. That way dying means something and there is a sense of loss.

    Also would give players that never get a shot.

    The current system is also. You have to have zero life to get it. Especially if you dont get it on reset day.

    I played 20+ hours a day for 12 days straight to get mine when IR dethroned Khamikazi after her 45 day run as emp or some crap.
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