so still no group finder fix

karldavy149b16_ESO · August 2016

i know the group finder is broken when a tank spends 2 hours in the que with no pop and that exactly what is happening to my tank since the hist expansion hit

Wow · August 2016

Did Zenimax just give up on the dungeon finder?

karldavy149b16_ESO · August 2016

Wow wrote: »

Did Zenimax just give up on the dungeon finder?

i think they did ...

Crowgnosis · August 2016

I've been wondering about this as well. It is a great tool and truly enhances game play. I am looking forward to its return.

vyndral13preub18_ESO · August 2016

Pretty sure they have. It has been broken since db for me and they posted in another thread saying they are looking into what is wrong with it... So they dont even know.

Emma_Overload · August 2016

I don't understand why this isn't a high priority for ZOS. Grouping with other players is one of the most important parts of an MMO!

karldavy149b16_ESO · August 2016

its to the point where i feel they need to stop pushing out all these dlcs and just sit back on go thro the bug tracker ... and work on that im pretty sure 80% of the player base would be happy to go 6 months without a dlc id all the buggs are slowly getting fixed

Avenias · August 2016

They said its fixed, so we must believe it. ZOS is never wrong.

Garldeen · August 2016

Without a working group finder, it is, for me, a single player game. This is a good multiplayer game but there are far better single player games which I can spend my time playing.

Avenias · August 2016

wonkydog wrote: »

Without a working group finder, it is, for me, a single player game. This is a good multiplayer game but there are far better single player games which I can spend my time playing.

Try witcher 3

raidentenshu_ESO · August 2016

Why @ZOS_GinaBruno , @ZOS_JessicaFolsom and @ZOS_RichLambert refuse to acknowledge that the group finder is still broken? That you have to spend hours on end to find a group of players to do dungeon with? I really wish that they can get some help from Rockstar into fixing this issue because this game is becoming less desirable when you're trying to do your gold/silver undaunted pledges with.

Garldeen · August 2016

Avenias wrote: »

wonkydog wrote: »

Without a working group finder, it is, for me, a single player game. This is a good multiplayer game but there are far better single player games which I can spend my time playing.

Try witcher 3

Got that, had about a year and 20 odd hours in. I keep getting lost and falling off things

Good game, though.

ESO (when working) is by far my fav game, I just wished it worked more often

Francescolg · August 2016

How have you setup the dungeon finder? Do you search for random normal or veteran mode? (this is the decisive
Question) For normal dungeons the dungeon finder is working perfectly fine for me! For veteran random dungeons I made other experiences..

If you are referring to the dungeon finder for the veteran mode, then yes: it might be the case that not enough players are joining the queue. The reason therefor is simply that veteran dungeon-difficulty does vary too much from - "OK to doable for a random group of more or less experienced players" - up to - "very hard to nearly impossible for a random group of more or less experienced players".

Again, check if there is a difference concerning the dungeon level/difficulty, always favor normal mode and then it should work! For the veteran dungeons, there might be more troubles, as 4 or 5 of the veteran dungeons are like 2times more harder than the rest of (older) veteran dungeons, hence many players don't use the dungeon finder for the setup random-veteran. This is just one possible cause, just my opinion!

Agalloch · August 2016

Group finder still not working.

Please ZOS , fix the group finder!!! Until the Dark Brotherhood launch group finder worked very well. Since DB everything is broken.

Fixing the group finder is a priority ZOS!

Please try to provide us an ETA!

Thank you!

Synfaer · August 2016

frateanu.luiseb17_ESO wrote: »

Group finder still not working.

Please ZOS , fix the group finder!!! Until the Dark Brotherhood launch group finder worked very well. Since DB everything is broken.

Fixing the group finder is a priority ZOS!

Please try to provide us an ETA!

Thank you!

I have noticed that in all the posts that ZOS has commented on recent grouping bugs that they never seem to directly refer to the grouping tool. They seem to skirt the problem without actually addressing it.
To me this either means they do not know whats wrong with it, or they know and do not have the resources to fix it.

To ZOS...I am getting tired of spamming zone chat for groups.

I have tried to queue for random normals, specific dungeons etc... as a tank and have not had one dungeon pop since the Shadows of Hist DLC patch.

Uphz · August 2016

I find it strange that some people still try to convince others that the dungeon finder is not the problem, but the lack of people using it. There have been so many threads about it, people have tested the dungeon finder with different roles and it simply does not work

G-sus_NL · August 2016

Last night it worked for me. Not as quick as it used to be, but at least it matched. PS4 EU.

Avenias · August 2016

Uphz wrote: »

I find it strange that some people still try to convince others that the dungeon finder is not the problem, but the lack of people using it. There have been so many threads about it, people have tested the dungeon finder with different roles and it simply does not work

They are called sheeps. The most useless group of ppl in this game. Infact they are a hindrance to progess.

Darius771 · August 2016

Emma_Overload wrote: »

I don't understand why this isn't a high priority for ZOS. Grouping with other players is one of the most important parts of an MMO!

you said everything. It is all that zos need to keep in mind.

jeremiah911 · August 2016

I thought ZOS was going to put up a thread on this subject last week and talk a little about the things they are doing to fix it. As far as I know the thread still hasn't been started.

vyndral13preub18_ESO · August 2016

Synfaer wrote: »

frateanu.luiseb17_ESO wrote: »

Group finder still not working.

Please ZOS , fix the group finder!!! Until the Dark Brotherhood launch group finder worked very well. Since DB everything is broken.

Fixing the group finder is a priority ZOS!

Please try to provide us an ETA!

Thank you!

I have noticed that in all the posts that ZOS has commented on recent grouping bugs that they never seem to directly refer to the grouping tool. They seem to skirt the problem without actually addressing it.
To me this either means they do not know whats wrong with it, or they know and do not have the resources to fix it.

To ZOS...I am getting tired of spamming zone chat for groups.

I have tried to queue for random normals, specific dungeons etc... as a tank and have not had one dungeon pop since the Shadows of Hist DLC patch.

Yeah they dont know.

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

exeeter702 wrote: »

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

Sorry guys, don't want to give you excuses for keeping you all hanging, so let's just get to the meat of the post:

We do have some additional fixes going into Monday’s PC incremental patch, and are also working toward implementing these fixes on console for next week’s update as well. Just to make sure we’re all on the same page, below are a couple examples of the issues we’re tracking:
Player A sends a group invite to Player B. Player B accepts the group invite. Player A doesn’t see that Player B has joined the group, but both players are still essentially grouped.
This was partially fixed in PC patch 2.5.6, and we’ll have additional fixes in 2.5.7. You can try going to a different zone or relogging to see if that helps you in the meantime.

Player A sends a group invite to Player B. Player B accepts the group invite. Neither player is placed into a group.
This is largely an issue with the group leader; the game believes you’re the leader of a group, but in reality, you’re not. This will also be addressed in 2.5.7.

Note that these issues are also likely impacting groups forming through the Grouping Tool in situations where groups appear to be formed, but are immediately disbanded and hit with the 15 minute debuff.

Until these fixes are published next week, make sure you leave or disband your current group before logging off, especially if you’re the group leader. This will help ensure you won’t get stuck in a state where you cannot join future groups. If you’re already in a state where you cannot join a group, this should be remedied on Monday with the new patch.

So just to be clear, do you guys feel the issues you have mentioned are directly effecting the grouping tool in the form of queues taking sinply not poping after multiple hours of waiting?

It's not likely, no, but we are actively investigating the cause for the long queue times. It may be as simple as not enough players using it for the specific dungeon you're trying to run, but it may be something else. We'll let you know if we hear anything more definitive.

disintegr8 · August 2016

PS4 NA - group finder hasn't worked properly since DB DLC (or maybe it was broken before that and is NOW working as designed).

XistenZ_one · August 2016

*Player joins queue and get a prioritynumber for every role the player joins queue as.
*The server pick 4 players, 1 tank, 1 healer and 2 DPS.
*The two players that has waited the longest (lowest prioritynumber) from the DPS-stack is put into a temporary group.
*The player who has waited the longest from the healer-stack is put in the same temporary group.
*The player who has waited the longest from the tank-stack is put into the temporary group.
*The temporary group is now complete and the actual group is founded.

*If a player has enlisted as more than one role he could be put into a temporary group for each role.
*A player with two roles can not be put into the same group twice.
*If a temporary group contains a player with several roles the groupfinder will search for additional players from both stacks (if a group has 1 tank, 1 dps, and one player who is dps and heal the groupfinder will find either another dps, making the dual-role player a healer, or it will find a healer making the dual-role player dps).
*If a player leaves the queue he is dropped from all stacks and temporary group(s) the player was a member of.

*Every temporary group is given a prioritynumber, like the players.
*If the temporary group has made checks on all stacks but still missing one or more roles, the temporary group is put into a stack for every role it lacks.
*When a player is put into a stack (joins the queue) it first gets sorted into a temporary group that's missing the players role.
*If no group is applicable, the player will have initiated a new temporary group.

Some logic is still missing for when already created groups is using the groupfinder and some annoying checks for selected dungeons must be made (a stack for every role and dungeon is not a bad idea IMO, stacks are cool).
More logic to catch the temporary groups where a player leaves the queue has to be made, it's possible to create a ton of temporary groups that all lack roles that's already been distributed to other temporary groups (logic to merge temporary groups together, or parts of them).

You're welcome developers, I fixed the groupfinder in 10 minutes. You may hire me.

I have no idea how you implemented the groupfinder so far, but you need to redo it. It's not hard, it's arranging information that is being spoon-fed to the server. Just do it!