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Hey ZOS your squeezing out the little guys!
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I commend Zos for implementing a system that encourages supply and demand in the market place and where the community really determines the price of items. However, because we don't have a global auction house the giant most popular market sellers are dominating the most popular zones and are screwing the little guys. I was a member of a mega rawlinka trading guild. Let's face it, if your a seller and you want something sold, your a member of one of these mega guilds. I just received a notice this past week that we shattered a transaction trading record. Great! However, a few days later the decision was made to up the weekly membership requirement to either 50k transaction from 25k or 15k in raffles from 7k. I believe The decision was thinly disguised behind the idea that to stay competitive and have enough bank reserves the guild needed to do this? Say what? Didn't we just shatter a transaction record? Anyways here is the problem.
Without a global AH the little guy seller cannot compete with these megamarts. I can't afford to belong to a megamart which means I'm stuck belonging to a guild in a zone that anyone hardly buys from. Let's be honest, there are really only three zones that dominate the buyer seller markets. Rawlinka, deshaan, and storm haven. With rawlinka on top. Now, if we had a global auction house that ties all the trading guilds together, than everyone has a fair shot at selling their goods and wares and no one is held hostage to the giant Megacorps with rediculous membership fees. The result is I'm stuck to spamming zone chat in rawlinka to get materials sold and I'm broke because the megacorp ran me out of business.
Discuss.
Without a global AH the little guy seller cannot compete with these megamarts. I can't afford to belong to a megamart which means I'm stuck belonging to a guild in a zone that anyone hardly buys from. Let's be honest, there are really only three zones that dominate the buyer seller markets. Rawlinka, deshaan, and storm haven. With rawlinka on top. Now, if we had a global auction house that ties all the trading guilds together, than everyone has a fair shot at selling their goods and wares and no one is held hostage to the giant Megacorps with rediculous membership fees. The result is I'm stuck to spamming zone chat in rawlinka to get materials sold and I'm broke because the megacorp ran me out of business.
Discuss.
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✭✭✭✭✭I have been saying it for the longest... ESO needs an auction house. But, because of greed and pettiness — people find every excuse in the book as to why an auction house would somehow be "bad" to the in-game economy. Lol.9 -
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✭Everything has already been discussed, polls have been made, there's not much more you can bring to the table, most don't want an AH (poll results) and some do.
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✭✭✭Unsent.Soul wrote: »Everything has already been discussed, polls have been made, there's not much more you can bring to the table, most don't want an AH (poll results) and some do.
Indeed. This thread is basically another person complaining about trading guilds.
Wonder how their stance will change tomorrow...
#TextChatTradesEdited by UltimaJoe777 on August 15, 2016 6:02PMGuildmaster of Power With Numbers in PS4 NA Server's Aldmeri Dominion.
Proud Founder of the Yaysay cult! DOWN WITH THE NAYSAY CULT!! #ToxicRemedy1 -
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✭✭✭Well it's Monday, guess we need yet another thread for everyone to rehash the exact same arguments that were made last week, and the week before, and the one before that...@wayfarerx - PC / North America / Aldmeri Dominion7 -
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✭✭after tomorrow when the (sniff) consoles get /z everyone is free to buy/sell anything anywhere with or without recourse to a guild - trading or otherwise.
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✭✭✭✭✭I'm in the same guild as you. The problem is that the sales taxes that go to the guild do not cover the price the traders go for. That's why the GM of the same guild was sending mails asking for people to donate to the raffle even if these people were well above the sales requirement and wouldn't be booted if they didn't donate.
Maybe if guilds could set the tax, this wouldn't happen. Or it would happen on a smaller scale.Just so that everyone knows, my Altmer still can't have black hair. About a dozen of Altmer NPCs in the game have black hair. Just saying.
Meet my characters:Command: Do the thing.
Zadarri, Khajiit Fist of Thalmor: The thing was done, as commanded.
Durza gra-Maghul, Orc blacksmith: The thing was done perfectly, in the most efficient way.
Tegwen, Bosmer troublemaker: You can't prove I didn't do the thing.
Sings-Many-Songs, Argonian fisher: Sure, I'll do the thing... Eventually. Maybe.
Aerindel, Altmer stormcaller: After extensive research, I've come to the conclusion that doing the thing would be a waste of resources.
Liliel, Dunmer pyromancer: Aerindel said I shouldn't do the thing. Something about "resources".
Gyda Snowcaller, Nord cryomancer: I will find a way to do it that won't waste resources and make Aerindel proud of me.
Beatrice Leoriane, Breton vampire: I persuaded someone else into doing the thing. You are welcome, dear.
Sahima, Redguard performer: Doing the thing sounds awfully unpleasant and really not my problem.
Ellaria Valerius, Imperial priestess: I'll pray to the Eight for the thing to be done, if it is Their will.0 -
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✭✭✭✭✭Someone mentioned a Barter Town before . Apologies for not remembering who but I really enjoyed reading that concept .3 -
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✭✭✭jedtb16_ESO wrote: »after tomorrow when the (sniff) consoles get /z everyone is free to buy/sell anything anywhere with or without recourse to a guild - trading or otherwise.
Edited by UltimaJoe777 on August 15, 2016 6:07PMGuildmaster of Power With Numbers in PS4 NA Server's Aldmeri Dominion.
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✭✭✭✭✭Forget these greedy trade guild monopolies. They always spout their BS "we NEED that extra coin to keep our spot" but really it is just an excuse to abuse the system and fleece their members, all the while driving up the bidding war they complain about.
It's toxic and unsustainable and when a trade guild starts mandating donations I leave.
Just do what most smart people do and spam zone chat in a populated zone with so much trade that no one can talk about anything else and ZOS is forced to make a proper AH.
What we have now is almost as bad as FFXIV before ARR.3 -
Milvan✭✭✭✭✭
✭For the eight, how hard is to join a trade guild? Really, like 99% of them are casual friendly. 5~15K a week in sales or in donations isn't even that much for a nice and sexy well located guild trader.
Are you a anxious anti-social player and don't want to have any human interaction at all, neither using guilds or zone chat? THIS IS A MMORPG for the eight sake.Edited by Milvan on August 15, 2016 6:13PM“Kings of the land and the sky we are; proud gryphons.” Stalker stands, the epitome of pride. Naked and muscular, his wings widen and his feet dig in as if he alone holds down the earth and supports the heavens, keeping the two ever separate.”
Gryphons guild - @Milvan,0 -
Abeille✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Rohamad_Ali wrote: »Someone mentioned a Barter Town before . Apologies for not remembering who but I really enjoyed reading that concept .
Sometimes I wish we had a PvE Imperial City. It would be the ultimate trading hub, especially after One Tamriel.Just so that everyone knows, my Altmer still can't have black hair. About a dozen of Altmer NPCs in the game have black hair. Just saying.
Meet my characters:Command: Do the thing.
Zadarri, Khajiit Fist of Thalmor: The thing was done, as commanded.
Durza gra-Maghul, Orc blacksmith: The thing was done perfectly, in the most efficient way.
Tegwen, Bosmer troublemaker: You can't prove I didn't do the thing.
Sings-Many-Songs, Argonian fisher: Sure, I'll do the thing... Eventually. Maybe.
Aerindel, Altmer stormcaller: After extensive research, I've come to the conclusion that doing the thing would be a waste of resources.
Liliel, Dunmer pyromancer: Aerindel said I shouldn't do the thing. Something about "resources".
Gyda Snowcaller, Nord cryomancer: I will find a way to do it that won't waste resources and make Aerindel proud of me.
Beatrice Leoriane, Breton vampire: I persuaded someone else into doing the thing. You are welcome, dear.
Sahima, Redguard performer: Doing the thing sounds awfully unpleasant and really not my problem.
Ellaria Valerius, Imperial priestess: I'll pray to the Eight for the thing to be done, if it is Their will.4 -
Seratopia✭✭✭✭For the eight, how hard is to join a trade guild? Really, like 99% of them are casual friendly. 5~15K a week in sales or in donations isn't even that much for a nice and sexy well located guild trader.
Are you a anxious anti-social player and don't want to have any human interaction at all, neither using guilds or zone chat? THIS IS A MMORPG for the eight sake.
You must not know the difference between anxiety and antisocial..3 -
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✭I have been saying it for the longest... ESO needs an auction house. But, because of greed and pettiness — people find every excuse in the book as to why an auction house would somehow be "bad" to the in-game economy. Lol.
you will be censured for telling the truth... But before that happens PREACH ON!
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✭✭I commend Zos for implementing a system that encourages supply and demand in the market place and where the community really determines the price of items. However, because we don't have a global auction house the giant most popular market sellers are dominating the most popular zones and are screwing the little guys. I was a member of a mega rawlinka trading guild. Let's face it, if your a seller and you want something sold, your a member of one of these mega guilds. I just received a notice this past week that we shattered a transaction trading record. Great! However, a few days later the decision was made to up the weekly membership requirement to either 50k transaction from 25k or 15k in raffles from 7k. I believe The decision was thinly disguised behind the idea that to stay competitive and have enough bank reserves the guild needed to do this? Say what? Didn't we just shatter a transaction record? Anyways here is the problem.
Without a global AH the little guy seller cannot compete with these megamarts. I can't afford to belong to a megamart which means I'm stuck belonging to a guild in a zone that anyone hardly buys from. Let's be honest, there are really only three zones that dominate the buyer seller markets. Rawlinka, deshaan, and storm haven. With rawlinka on top. Now, if we had a global auction house that ties all the trading guilds together, than everyone has a fair shot at selling their goods and wares and no one is held hostage to the giant Megacorps with rediculous membership fees. The result is I'm stuck to spamming zone chat in rawlinka to get materials sold and I'm broke because the megacorp ran me out of business.
Discuss.
Common its Grathwood not Rawlinka for AD...
I am in big favor of Auction House but ZOS will never scrap Guild Traders, they may increase number of traders or improve them..Edited by Lord_Eomer on August 15, 2016 6:31PM0 -
Abeille✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Lord_Dexter wrote: »I commend Zos for implementing a system that encourages supply and demand in the market place and where the community really determines the price of items. However, because we don't have a global auction house the giant most popular market sellers are dominating the most popular zones and are screwing the little guys. I was a member of a mega rawlinka trading guild. Let's face it, if your a seller and you want something sold, your a member of one of these mega guilds. I just received a notice this past week that we shattered a transaction trading record. Great! However, a few days later the decision was made to up the weekly membership requirement to either 50k transaction from 25k or 15k in raffles from 7k. I believe The decision was thinly disguised behind the idea that to stay competitive and have enough bank reserves the guild needed to do this? Say what? Didn't we just shatter a transaction record? Anyways here is the problem.
Without a global AH the little guy seller cannot compete with these megamarts. I can't afford to belong to a megamart which means I'm stuck belonging to a guild in a zone that anyone hardly buys from. Let's be honest, there are really only three zones that dominate the buyer seller markets. Rawlinka, deshaan, and storm haven. With rawlinka on top. Now, if we had a global auction house that ties all the trading guilds together, than everyone has a fair shot at selling their goods and wares and no one is held hostage to the giant Megacorps with rediculous membership fees. The result is I'm stuck to spamming zone chat in rawlinka to get materials sold and I'm broke because the megacorp ran me out of business.
Discuss.
Common its Grathwood not Rawlinka for AD...
Rawl'kha is where the high-volume traders are on AD, despite the Undaunted being in Grahtwood. At least on NA/PC.
That's because Rawl is much more convenient. Everything is close to the traders, including the portal to the Earth Forge and the bank, all the crafting stations are out in the open, even the stables are a few steps from the kiosks. That's not the case in Grahtwood, or any other town for that matter.Just so that everyone knows, my Altmer still can't have black hair. About a dozen of Altmer NPCs in the game have black hair. Just saying.
Meet my characters:Command: Do the thing.
Zadarri, Khajiit Fist of Thalmor: The thing was done, as commanded.
Durza gra-Maghul, Orc blacksmith: The thing was done perfectly, in the most efficient way.
Tegwen, Bosmer troublemaker: You can't prove I didn't do the thing.
Sings-Many-Songs, Argonian fisher: Sure, I'll do the thing... Eventually. Maybe.
Aerindel, Altmer stormcaller: After extensive research, I've come to the conclusion that doing the thing would be a waste of resources.
Liliel, Dunmer pyromancer: Aerindel said I shouldn't do the thing. Something about "resources".
Gyda Snowcaller, Nord cryomancer: I will find a way to do it that won't waste resources and make Aerindel proud of me.
Beatrice Leoriane, Breton vampire: I persuaded someone else into doing the thing. You are welcome, dear.
Sahima, Redguard performer: Doing the thing sounds awfully unpleasant and really not my problem.
Ellaria Valerius, Imperial priestess: I'll pray to the Eight for the thing to be done, if it is Their will.2 -
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✭✭Lord_Dexter wrote: »I commend Zos for implementing a system that encourages supply and demand in the market place and where the community really determines the price of items. However, because we don't have a global auction house the giant most popular market sellers are dominating the most popular zones and are screwing the little guys. I was a member of a mega rawlinka trading guild. Let's face it, if your a seller and you want something sold, your a member of one of these mega guilds. I just received a notice this past week that we shattered a transaction trading record. Great! However, a few days later the decision was made to up the weekly membership requirement to either 50k transaction from 25k or 15k in raffles from 7k. I believe The decision was thinly disguised behind the idea that to stay competitive and have enough bank reserves the guild needed to do this? Say what? Didn't we just shatter a transaction record? Anyways here is the problem.
Without a global AH the little guy seller cannot compete with these megamarts. I can't afford to belong to a megamart which means I'm stuck belonging to a guild in a zone that anyone hardly buys from. Let's be honest, there are really only three zones that dominate the buyer seller markets. Rawlinka, deshaan, and storm haven. With rawlinka on top. Now, if we had a global auction house that ties all the trading guilds together, than everyone has a fair shot at selling their goods and wares and no one is held hostage to the giant Megacorps with rediculous membership fees. The result is I'm stuck to spamming zone chat in rawlinka to get materials sold and I'm broke because the megacorp ran me out of business.
Discuss.
Common its Grathwood not Rawlinka for AD...
Rawl'kha is where the high-volume traders are on AD, despite the Undaunted being in Grahtwood. At least on NA/PC.
That's because Rawl is much more convenient. Everything is close to the traders, including the portal to the Earth Forge and the bank, all the crafting stations are out in the open, even the stables are a few steps from the kiosks. That's not the case in Grahtwood, or any other town for that matter.
I always have best sales in Grathwood instead of Raw'kha, I always have trader in both locations... I have 9 characters in AD and i spend most of time in Grathwood and Raw'kla only.Edited by Lord_Eomer on August 15, 2016 6:37PM0 -
Taternater✭✭✭What this game needs is a new pair of zones called the East Commons and the West Commons. Between these zones should be a tunnel. This tunnel should be the only place where players can sell stuff.0
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Abeille✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Lord_Dexter wrote: »Lord_Dexter wrote: »I commend Zos for implementing a system that encourages supply and demand in the market place and where the community really determines the price of items. However, because we don't have a global auction house the giant most popular market sellers are dominating the most popular zones and are screwing the little guys. I was a member of a mega rawlinka trading guild. Let's face it, if your a seller and you want something sold, your a member of one of these mega guilds. I just received a notice this past week that we shattered a transaction trading record. Great! However, a few days later the decision was made to up the weekly membership requirement to either 50k transaction from 25k or 15k in raffles from 7k. I believe The decision was thinly disguised behind the idea that to stay competitive and have enough bank reserves the guild needed to do this? Say what? Didn't we just shatter a transaction record? Anyways here is the problem.
Without a global AH the little guy seller cannot compete with these megamarts. I can't afford to belong to a megamart which means I'm stuck belonging to a guild in a zone that anyone hardly buys from. Let's be honest, there are really only three zones that dominate the buyer seller markets. Rawlinka, deshaan, and storm haven. With rawlinka on top. Now, if we had a global auction house that ties all the trading guilds together, than everyone has a fair shot at selling their goods and wares and no one is held hostage to the giant Megacorps with rediculous membership fees. The result is I'm stuck to spamming zone chat in rawlinka to get materials sold and I'm broke because the megacorp ran me out of business.
Discuss.
Common its Grathwood not Rawlinka for AD...
Rawl'kha is where the high-volume traders are on AD, despite the Undaunted being in Grahtwood. At least on NA/PC.
That's because Rawl is much more convenient. Everything is close to the traders, including the portal to the Earth Forge and the bank, all the crafting stations are out in the open, even the stables are a few steps from the kiosks. That's not the case in Grahtwood, or any other town for that matter.
I always have best sales in Grathwood instead of Raw'kha, I always have trader in both locations... I have 9 characters in AD and i spent most of time in Grathwood and Raw'kla only.
I also have guilds both in Grahtwood and in Rawl, and more expensive stuff sells quicker in Rawl than in Grahtwood. The kioks in Rawl also have a bigger stock and go for higher bids.
I have ten characters in AD.Just so that everyone knows, my Altmer still can't have black hair. About a dozen of Altmer NPCs in the game have black hair. Just saying.
Meet my characters:Command: Do the thing.
Zadarri, Khajiit Fist of Thalmor: The thing was done, as commanded.
Durza gra-Maghul, Orc blacksmith: The thing was done perfectly, in the most efficient way.
Tegwen, Bosmer troublemaker: You can't prove I didn't do the thing.
Sings-Many-Songs, Argonian fisher: Sure, I'll do the thing... Eventually. Maybe.
Aerindel, Altmer stormcaller: After extensive research, I've come to the conclusion that doing the thing would be a waste of resources.
Liliel, Dunmer pyromancer: Aerindel said I shouldn't do the thing. Something about "resources".
Gyda Snowcaller, Nord cryomancer: I will find a way to do it that won't waste resources and make Aerindel proud of me.
Beatrice Leoriane, Breton vampire: I persuaded someone else into doing the thing. You are welcome, dear.
Sahima, Redguard performer: Doing the thing sounds awfully unpleasant and really not my problem.
Ellaria Valerius, Imperial priestess: I'll pray to the Eight for the thing to be done, if it is Their will.0 -
Lord_Eomer✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Lord_Dexter wrote: »Lord_Dexter wrote: »I commend Zos for implementing a system that encourages supply and demand in the market place and where the community really determines the price of items. However, because we don't have a global auction house the giant most popular market sellers are dominating the most popular zones and are screwing the little guys. I was a member of a mega rawlinka trading guild. Let's face it, if your a seller and you want something sold, your a member of one of these mega guilds. I just received a notice this past week that we shattered a transaction trading record. Great! However, a few days later the decision was made to up the weekly membership requirement to either 50k transaction from 25k or 15k in raffles from 7k. I believe The decision was thinly disguised behind the idea that to stay competitive and have enough bank reserves the guild needed to do this? Say what? Didn't we just shatter a transaction record? Anyways here is the problem.
Without a global AH the little guy seller cannot compete with these megamarts. I can't afford to belong to a megamart which means I'm stuck belonging to a guild in a zone that anyone hardly buys from. Let's be honest, there are really only three zones that dominate the buyer seller markets. Rawlinka, deshaan, and storm haven. With rawlinka on top. Now, if we had a global auction house that ties all the trading guilds together, than everyone has a fair shot at selling their goods and wares and no one is held hostage to the giant Megacorps with rediculous membership fees. The result is I'm stuck to spamming zone chat in rawlinka to get materials sold and I'm broke because the megacorp ran me out of business.
Discuss.
Common its Grathwood not Rawlinka for AD...
Rawl'kha is where the high-volume traders are on AD, despite the Undaunted being in Grahtwood. At least on NA/PC.
That's because Rawl is much more convenient. Everything is close to the traders, including the portal to the Earth Forge and the bank, all the crafting stations are out in the open, even the stables are a few steps from the kiosks. That's not the case in Grahtwood, or any other town for that matter.
I always have best sales in Grathwood instead of Raw'kha, I always have trader in both locations... I have 9 characters in AD and i spent most of time in Grathwood and Raw'kla only.
I also have guilds both in Grahtwood and in Rawl, and more expensive stuff sells quicker in Rawl than in Grahtwood. The kioks in Rawl also have a bigger stock and go for higher bids.
I have ten characters in AD.
lol, 10 characters in AD, sounds funny to me..
may be you are a big fan of AD than me, bank is near to Rawl but for me Grathwood always a big winner..
I am on PS4 NAEdited by Lord_Eomer on August 15, 2016 6:42PM0 -
Abeille✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Lord_Dexter wrote: »Lord_Dexter wrote: »Lord_Dexter wrote: »I commend Zos for implementing a system that encourages supply and demand in the market place and where the community really determines the price of items. However, because we don't have a global auction house the giant most popular market sellers are dominating the most popular zones and are screwing the little guys. I was a member of a mega rawlinka trading guild. Let's face it, if your a seller and you want something sold, your a member of one of these mega guilds. I just received a notice this past week that we shattered a transaction trading record. Great! However, a few days later the decision was made to up the weekly membership requirement to either 50k transaction from 25k or 15k in raffles from 7k. I believe The decision was thinly disguised behind the idea that to stay competitive and have enough bank reserves the guild needed to do this? Say what? Didn't we just shatter a transaction record? Anyways here is the problem.
Without a global AH the little guy seller cannot compete with these megamarts. I can't afford to belong to a megamart which means I'm stuck belonging to a guild in a zone that anyone hardly buys from. Let's be honest, there are really only three zones that dominate the buyer seller markets. Rawlinka, deshaan, and storm haven. With rawlinka on top. Now, if we had a global auction house that ties all the trading guilds together, than everyone has a fair shot at selling their goods and wares and no one is held hostage to the giant Megacorps with rediculous membership fees. The result is I'm stuck to spamming zone chat in rawlinka to get materials sold and I'm broke because the megacorp ran me out of business.
Discuss.
Common its Grathwood not Rawlinka for AD...
Rawl'kha is where the high-volume traders are on AD, despite the Undaunted being in Grahtwood. At least on NA/PC.
That's because Rawl is much more convenient. Everything is close to the traders, including the portal to the Earth Forge and the bank, all the crafting stations are out in the open, even the stables are a few steps from the kiosks. That's not the case in Grahtwood, or any other town for that matter.
I always have best sales in Grathwood instead of Raw'kha, I always have trader in both locations... I have 9 characters in AD and i spent most of time in Grathwood and Raw'kla only.
I also have guilds both in Grahtwood and in Rawl, and more expensive stuff sells quicker in Rawl than in Grahtwood. The kioks in Rawl also have a bigger stock and go for higher bids.
I have ten characters in AD.
lol, 10 characters characters in AD may be sounds funny to me..
may be you are big fan of AD than me, bank is near to Rawl but for me Grathwood always a big winner..
It's fine if you prefer Grahtwood to Rawl, but that doesn't make Grahtwood the go-to trading hub. Both spots are really popular. But there is a reason for Rawl to be a popular trading hub on all three factions, and it is because it is convenient.
Besides, the traders are the same for all factions. Rawl, because is so convenient, has high traffic on all three versions of the map. No wonder guilds bite each other's heads off for a kiosk there.
And I have only one character more than you in AD, why does that sound funny? lolEdited by Abeille on August 15, 2016 6:45PMJust so that everyone knows, my Altmer still can't have black hair. About a dozen of Altmer NPCs in the game have black hair. Just saying.
Meet my characters:Command: Do the thing.
Zadarri, Khajiit Fist of Thalmor: The thing was done, as commanded.
Durza gra-Maghul, Orc blacksmith: The thing was done perfectly, in the most efficient way.
Tegwen, Bosmer troublemaker: You can't prove I didn't do the thing.
Sings-Many-Songs, Argonian fisher: Sure, I'll do the thing... Eventually. Maybe.
Aerindel, Altmer stormcaller: After extensive research, I've come to the conclusion that doing the thing would be a waste of resources.
Liliel, Dunmer pyromancer: Aerindel said I shouldn't do the thing. Something about "resources".
Gyda Snowcaller, Nord cryomancer: I will find a way to do it that won't waste resources and make Aerindel proud of me.
Beatrice Leoriane, Breton vampire: I persuaded someone else into doing the thing. You are welcome, dear.
Sahima, Redguard performer: Doing the thing sounds awfully unpleasant and really not my problem.
Ellaria Valerius, Imperial priestess: I'll pray to the Eight for the thing to be done, if it is Their will.2 -
Lord_Eomer✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Lord_Dexter wrote: »Lord_Dexter wrote: »Lord_Dexter wrote: »I commend Zos for implementing a system that encourages supply and demand in the market place and where the community really determines the price of items. However, because we don't have a global auction house the giant most popular market sellers are dominating the most popular zones and are screwing the little guys. I was a member of a mega rawlinka trading guild. Let's face it, if your a seller and you want something sold, your a member of one of these mega guilds. I just received a notice this past week that we shattered a transaction trading record. Great! However, a few days later the decision was made to up the weekly membership requirement to either 50k transaction from 25k or 15k in raffles from 7k. I believe The decision was thinly disguised behind the idea that to stay competitive and have enough bank reserves the guild needed to do this? Say what? Didn't we just shatter a transaction record? Anyways here is the problem.
Without a global AH the little guy seller cannot compete with these megamarts. I can't afford to belong to a megamart which means I'm stuck belonging to a guild in a zone that anyone hardly buys from. Let's be honest, there are really only three zones that dominate the buyer seller markets. Rawlinka, deshaan, and storm haven. With rawlinka on top. Now, if we had a global auction house that ties all the trading guilds together, than everyone has a fair shot at selling their goods and wares and no one is held hostage to the giant Megacorps with rediculous membership fees. The result is I'm stuck to spamming zone chat in rawlinka to get materials sold and I'm broke because the megacorp ran me out of business.
Discuss.
Common its Grathwood not Rawlinka for AD...
Rawl'kha is where the high-volume traders are on AD, despite the Undaunted being in Grahtwood. At least on NA/PC.
That's because Rawl is much more convenient. Everything is close to the traders, including the portal to the Earth Forge and the bank, all the crafting stations are out in the open, even the stables are a few steps from the kiosks. That's not the case in Grahtwood, or any other town for that matter.
I always have best sales in Grathwood instead of Raw'kha, I always have trader in both locations... I have 9 characters in AD and i spent most of time in Grathwood and Raw'kla only.
I also have guilds both in Grahtwood and in Rawl, and more expensive stuff sells quicker in Rawl than in Grahtwood. The kioks in Rawl also have a bigger stock and go for higher bids.
I have ten characters in AD.
lol, 10 characters characters in AD may be sounds funny to me..
may be you are big fan of AD than me, bank is near to Rawl but for me Grathwood always a big winner..
It's fine if you prefer Grahtwood to Rawl, but that doesn't make Grahtwood the go-to trading hub. Both spots are really popular. But there is a reason for Rawl to be a popular trading hub on all three factions, and it is because it is convenient.
Besides, the traders are the same for all factions. Rawl, because is so convenient, has high traffic on all three versions of the map. No wonder guilds bite each other's heads off for a kiosk there.
And I have only one character more than you in AD, why does that sound funny? lol
well no offence, I thought may be its only me with 9/12 characters in AD..
and you popped just 1 number ahead after my reply..Edited by Lord_Eomer on August 15, 2016 6:50PM0 -
Jimmy✭✭✭✭✭Rawl'Kha is the best trade city. So when One Tamriel hits, just turn Rawl'Kha into the "Trader Hub City" and add guild traders all over the city.
If you were a wandering Merchant, why would you NOT be in Rawl'Kha? That's where all the trade happens. Pack up your cart of goods and set up shop in Rawl.0 -
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✭The little guy needs to step up his game.
I get why you want the auction house, but I will never agree.
I hope you do manage to sell your wares though.3 -
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✭✭✭✭✭My trading guild is in a good zone and their minimum sales is a low 5k per week which is easy. It's hardly hurting the little people as OP puts it.
At that, when I check vendors in other areas I often find items very over priced. It may be a big reason they do not do well. Forget the may, it is a big reason. Of course one must have something worthwhile to sell to begin with. Pots, matts and of course good jewelry and armor pieces, again, priced properly.
The current system works and works well.1 -
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✭✭Rawl'Kha is the best trade city. So when One Tamriel hits, just turn Rawl'Kha into the "Trader Hub City" and add guild traders all over the city.
If you were a wandering Merchant, why would you NOT be in Rawl'Kha? That's where all the trade happens. Pack up your cart of goods and set up shop in Rawl.
Not sure its for PS4, as always i found Grathwood best sales for me..
well its not a big deal to discuss this as this thread is mainly for Auction House...Edited by Lord_Eomer on August 15, 2016 6:59PM0 -
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✭Unsent.Soul wrote: »Everything has already been discussed, polls have been made, there's not much more you can bring to the table, most don't want an AH (poll results) and some do.
Will keep bringing it up until a system is put in place that gives everyone a fair shot. Not a system that caters to the 1% who can afford insane trading costs.UltimaJoe777 wrote: »Unsent.Soul wrote: »Everything has already been discussed, polls have been made, there's not much more you can bring to the table, most don't want an AH (poll results) and some do.
Indeed. This thread is basically another person complaining about trading guilds.
Wonder how their stance will change tomorrow...
#TextChatTrades
Never complained before. Didn't realize how bad it's become. I'm on board for change.I'm in the same guild as you. The problem is that the sales taxes that go to the guild do not cover the price the traders go for. That's why the GM of the same guild was sending mails asking for people to donate to the raffle even if these people were well above the sales requirement and wouldn't be booted if they didn't donate.
Maybe if guilds could set the tax, this wouldn't happen. Or it would happen on a smaller scale.
Maybe...but that is why the system needs to change. It's getting ridiculous and now the average player is getting squeezed out. I have limited time to play. When I do it's 1am east coast time. The current system favors the wealthiest elites. Which indirectly effects the average player.For the eight, how hard is to join a trade guild? Really, like 99% of them are casual friendly. 5~15K a week in sales or in donations isn't even that much for a nice and sexy well located guild trader.
Are you a anxious anti-social player and don't want to have any human interaction at all, neither using guilds or zone chat? THIS IS A MMORPG for the eight sake.
These guilds don't have the volume like others have stated. Not sure what my personality has to do with it.
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✭✭✭✭✭Lord_Dexter wrote: »Lord_Dexter wrote: »Lord_Dexter wrote: »Lord_Dexter wrote: »I commend Zos for implementing a system that encourages supply and demand in the market place and where the community really determines the price of items. However, because we don't have a global auction house the giant most popular market sellers are dominating the most popular zones and are screwing the little guys. I was a member of a mega rawlinka trading guild. Let's face it, if your a seller and you want something sold, your a member of one of these mega guilds. I just received a notice this past week that we shattered a transaction trading record. Great! However, a few days later the decision was made to up the weekly membership requirement to either 50k transaction from 25k or 15k in raffles from 7k. I believe The decision was thinly disguised behind the idea that to stay competitive and have enough bank reserves the guild needed to do this? Say what? Didn't we just shatter a transaction record? Anyways here is the problem.
Without a global AH the little guy seller cannot compete with these megamarts. I can't afford to belong to a megamart which means I'm stuck belonging to a guild in a zone that anyone hardly buys from. Let's be honest, there are really only three zones that dominate the buyer seller markets. Rawlinka, deshaan, and storm haven. With rawlinka on top. Now, if we had a global auction house that ties all the trading guilds together, than everyone has a fair shot at selling their goods and wares and no one is held hostage to the giant Megacorps with rediculous membership fees. The result is I'm stuck to spamming zone chat in rawlinka to get materials sold and I'm broke because the megacorp ran me out of business.
Discuss.
Common its Grathwood not Rawlinka for AD...
Rawl'kha is where the high-volume traders are on AD, despite the Undaunted being in Grahtwood. At least on NA/PC.
That's because Rawl is much more convenient. Everything is close to the traders, including the portal to the Earth Forge and the bank, all the crafting stations are out in the open, even the stables are a few steps from the kiosks. That's not the case in Grahtwood, or any other town for that matter.
I always have best sales in Grathwood instead of Raw'kha, I always have trader in both locations... I have 9 characters in AD and i spent most of time in Grathwood and Raw'kla only.
I also have guilds both in Grahtwood and in Rawl, and more expensive stuff sells quicker in Rawl than in Grahtwood. The kioks in Rawl also have a bigger stock and go for higher bids.
I have ten characters in AD.
lol, 10 characters characters in AD may be sounds funny to me..
may be you are big fan of AD than me, bank is near to Rawl but for me Grathwood always a big winner..
It's fine if you prefer Grahtwood to Rawl, but that doesn't make Grahtwood the go-to trading hub. Both spots are really popular. But there is a reason for Rawl to be a popular trading hub on all three factions, and it is because it is convenient.
Besides, the traders are the same for all factions. Rawl, because is so convenient, has high traffic on all three versions of the map. No wonder guilds bite each other's heads off for a kiosk there.
And I have only one character more than you in AD, why does that sound funny? lol
well no offence, I thought may be its only me with 9/12 characters in AD..
and you popped just 1 number ahead after my reply..
To be fair, it is 10/10 for me. I don't have the other two character slots right now.
Here, I took a pic so you can see that I didn't say ten just because you said nine.Rawl'Kha is the best trade city. So when One Tamriel hits, just turn Rawl'Kha into the "Trader Hub City" and add guild traders all over the city.
If you were a wandering Merchant, why would you NOT be in Rawl'Kha? That's where all the trade happens. Pack up your cart of goods and set up shop in Rawl.
I don't think One Tamriel will affect traders in any way because traders are already shared across phases. But even so, I think it would be nice if there were a few more traders there.Just so that everyone knows, my Altmer still can't have black hair. About a dozen of Altmer NPCs in the game have black hair. Just saying.
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Acharnor✭✭✭✭Would love more guild traders, but don't see the need for an AH. Personally I cant imagine forking over 15 k in gold to be part of a trading guild. I am in a large guild that raises money through non-madatory raffles to keep a stall in Deshann and sometimes the bid is lost. Even when we have a stall I only make 1 - 2 k a day maybe. Making money is not my key motivation. What do you guys sell to make that kind of coin - I am very curious???Celebrate for life is short but sweet for certain.0 -
xilfxlegion✭✭✭✭✭the same seven or eight people starting 1,684 threads kicking a dead horse.
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