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Make it possible to "disagree" on something.
tat2mano
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Now we can only choose "insightfull","agree" or "awesome",
since this is a forum i think it would be convenient and constructive to add an "disagree" option to posts and comments.
since this is a forum i think it would be convenient and constructive to add an "disagree" option to posts and comments.
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Milvan✭✭✭✭✭
✭It could be cool, but you know people are evil right? They will probably ask guildies to spamm disagrees on certain subjects. Especially the casual scrolls that never leave the forums.
Anyway, having no agrees/awesomes/insightfull is kind of indicator already.“Kings of the land and the sky we are; proud gryphons.” Stalker stands, the epitome of pride. Naked and muscular, his wings widen and his feet dig in as if he alone holds down the earth and supports the heavens, keeping the two ever separate.”
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nine9six✭✭✭✭✭
✭Imagine: someone posts something they think is going to have a lot of people in agreeance with, only to have people disagree with it instead.
Their feelings would get hurt.
It's 2016, and as such, we can't have people going around thinking they aren't the smartest person in the room and that their opinion doesn't matter.
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tat2mano✭✭✭✭It could be cool, but you know people are evil right? They will probably ask guildies to spamm disagrees on certain subjects. Especially the casual scrolls that never leave the forums.
Anyway, having no agrees/awesomes/insightfull is kind of indicator already.
I think i am the only one from my guildies and for sure the only from my friends that play the game that actually is active one the forum,
mostly there is a certain kind of gamer type thats active on forums i noticed,
its a shame though that not more gamers want to be active on forums,
it would create a more wider view on most subjects.
That being said you got a point that its something that could be abused by people,
but the same counts for the options we have now,
now they could also asks guildies or friends to "upvote" theyr post or comment.1 -
CapnPhoton✭✭✭✭✭There is so much negative already here and people would use this in spam form. I don't see the need to add to it. If it would eliminate the unstructured ZOS and player bashing I would be all for it, but that is unlikely.Xbox One NA Aldmeri Dominion3 -
vyndral13preub18_ESO✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭This thread hurt my feelings. Just thinking someone might disagree with me, frightens and confused me. I dont know what to do!!! People are different!!?????! Ahhhhhh i need a wall!!! To the fortress of solitude! Save me Donald Trump!!!
To far?
Anyway yeah people were sad that people did not agree. It is an odd world we live in.3 -
k9mouse✭✭✭✭✭
✭Forum History:
We used to have the LOL, Disagree, and some other buttons, but the forum trolls abused them. ZOS was "forced" take that away.3 -
Milvan✭✭✭✭✭
✭now they could also asks guildies or friends to "upvote" theyr post or comment.
I ask my friends to upvote my discussions
most of them don't comply tho. (Don't judge, I an human and I need acceptance)
But I believe is okay to spam positivity. The problem is that it negativity aspect can be used to annoy (perharps even harass) another user that you may have a quarrel with. I don't know, keep it off table means less issues to worry about, imaging the amount of "people are disagree spamming me" posts that may happen. Right now the current system is okay, since have no upvotes at all already shows that, at least, people arent compalying with your ideas xD
Edited by Milvan on August 15, 2016 3:17PM“Kings of the land and the sky we are; proud gryphons.” Stalker stands, the epitome of pride. Naked and muscular, his wings widen and his feet dig in as if he alone holds down the earth and supports the heavens, keeping the two ever separate.”
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Abeille✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭In every forum I participated on that had a system like this, "disagree" and "lol" were eventually removed. At least we still have "insightful" here.
It is always the same. People "disagree-bombing" some other people, the second group being super worried with internet points or whatnot and complaining, drama happening, mods removing the button. With the lol button, it is because people get upset when they make a serious post and other people use the lol button. Drama ensues all the same.
In one of the forums I participated on that had a system like this, there was a way of seeing who clicked each button using a loophole in the forum's coding. The drama went on and on for weeks. Friendships were ruined. People were banned. It was beautiful.Just so that everyone knows, my Altmer still can't have black hair. About a dozen of Altmer NPCs in the game have black hair. Just saying.
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Cazzy✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭I don't think it would be a wise addition. Plus people who do disagree are encouraged to constructively discuss why
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jedtb16_ESO✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭if you disagree with a post.....leave a reply to that effect.
helps if you explain why you disagree too.4 -
Lysette✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭jedtb16_ESO wrote: »if you disagree with a post.....leave a reply to that effect.
helps if you explain why you disagree too.
This is basically the point, why no "disagree" is there - it is not constructive to just disagree without to state why.4 -
vyndral13preub18_ESO✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭In every forum I participated on that had a system like this, "disagree" and "lol" were eventually removed. At least we still have "insightful" here.
It is always the same. People "disagree-bombing" some other people, the second group being super worried with internet points or whatnot and complaining, drama happening, mods removing the button. With the lol button, it is because people get upset when they make a serious post and other people use the lol button. Drama ensues all the same.
In one of the forums I participated on that had a system like this, there was a way of seeing who clicked each button using a loophole in the forum's coding. The drama went on and on for weeks. Friendships were ruined. People were banned. It was beautiful.
What is strange to me is that if you are going to have the buttons, you should be able to see who used them. If you cant it makes it pointless. Well other then the normal forum trolls entertaining themselves with them. No not me. I meant someone else, not me.Edited by vyndral13preub18_ESO on August 15, 2016 3:48PM1 -
tat2mano✭✭✭✭now they could also asks guildies or friends to "upvote" theyr post or comment.
I ask my friends to upvote my discussions most of them don't comply tho. (Don't judge, I an human and I need acceptance)
But I believe is okay to spam positivity. The problem is that it negativity aspect can be used to annoy (perharps even harass) another user that you may have a quarrel with. I don't know, keep it off table means less issues to worry about, imaging the amount of "people are disagree spamming me" posts that may happen. Right now the current system is okay, since have no upvotes at all already shows that, at least, people arent compalying with your ideas xD
But for the people that dont agree with that where you ask ur buddies to upvote for,
for them its not "positive" at all,
because it creates a "corrupted" view of the opinions of people on the statement.
And since this is possible now with the other so called "positive" choices,
it would be only good in the sense of constructive discussions.
Let people show that they dont agree with a simple click instead of a elaborate comment.1 -
milkbox✭✭✭✭✭Somebody came in and gave an "insightful" to every post in this thread. Probably to prove a point... or something.4 -
vamp_emily✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭Maybe they should just remove insightful, agree, and awesome options.
I think not having a disagree option is misleading.
For example I could post a thread like "Emily is OP", and get 25 agrees, but in reality there were 2000 people who disagreed, but you will not see that number because there is no disagree option.
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Roselle✭✭✭✭I'm not against a "Dislike" button, but I doubt this would be implemented based on the since retired LOL option and what a lot of forum members used it for.
Though, to be honest, I'd much rather see the username of forum members that have already clicked "Insightful," "Agree," or "Awesome" on a post.
Anonymity can be nice, but I'm not sure why we're only able to see the reaction number count... If you have a reaction to a post, let everyone be able to see who thinks what.
Maybe something kind of like the poll results feature? Just my two cents. This one was rekt by Zenimax1 -
tat2mano✭✭✭✭vamp_emily wrote: »Maybe they should just remove insightful, agree, and awesome options.
I think not having a disagree option is misleading.
For example I could post a thread like "Emily is OP", and get 25 agrees, but in reality there were 2000 people who disagreed, but you will not see that number because there is no disagree option.
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Rohamad_Ali✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Somebody came in and gave an "insightful" to every post in this thread. Probably to prove a point... or something.
Insightful gives you more stars . They think they are hurting your credibility but really just adding to it . The best way to show displeasure is to not give any reaction .3 -
driosketch✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭I disagree.
Here is a statement as to why I disagree.
A disagree has been tried twice before in Beta. The first time, 3 years ago, it would bury high disliked posts. Players abused it by systematically group down voting players they disliked. The second time it was returned during the closed beta with the smaller hand selected long term testers. It was removed again because players were using it in place of feed back.
There is a thrid time, if you want to count the sarcastic abuse of the lol button. At the time there was some definite toxicity in its use. There was probably some attempt to control the discussion by mass ridiculing dissenting opinions. And again, there was the lack of feedback, if you got a lol and didn't know why.
So now that there is a disagree plus a why: tldr it's easy to abuse and doesn't help understand the reason for disagreement.
Any one else wanting to disagree, but doesn't want to type a message out, can click agree on a post disagreeing like this one. (Assuming that post reflects why you disagree.)Main: Drio Azul ~ DC, Redguard, Healer/Magicka Templar ~ NA-PC
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Milvan✭✭✭✭✭
✭vamp_emily wrote: »Maybe they should just remove insightful, agree, and awesome options.
I think not having a disagree option is misleading.
For example I could post a thread like "Emily is OP", and get 25 agrees, but in reality there were 2000 people who disagreed, but you will not see that number because there is no disagree option.
Btw, either 1) your name is Emily and you love yourself way too much; 2) or you love an Emily 2a) if she(he?Is it can be used for males?) loves you back its okay 2b) if don't it is definetely kind creepy and you should get proper and professional help
lol.
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Rohamad_Ali✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭driosketch wrote: »I disagree.
Here is a statement as to why I disagree.
A disagree has been tried twice before in Beta. The first time, 3 years ago, it would bury high disliked posts. Players abused it by systematically group down voting players they disliked. The second time it was returned during the closed beta with the smaller hand selected long term testers. It was removed again because players were using it in place of feed back.
There is a thrid time, if you want to count the sarcastic abuse of the lol button. At the time there was some definite toxicity in its use. There was probably some attempt to control the discussion by mass ridiculing dissenting opinions. And again, there was the lack of feedback, if you got a lol and didn't know why.
So now that there is a disagree plus a why: tldr it's easy to abuse and doesn't help understand the reason for disagreement.
Any one else wanting to disagree, but doesn't want to type a message out, can click agree on a post disagreeing like this one. (Assuming that post reflects why you disagree.)
I don't disagree with the op wanting more reaction buttons nor caring if it stays the same . Can I have a "indifferent" button ?0 -
tat2mano✭✭✭✭driosketch wrote: »I disagree.
Here is a statement as to why I disagree.
A disagree has been tried twice before in Beta. The first time, 3 years ago, it would bury high disliked posts. Players abused it by systematically group down voting players they disliked. The second time it was returned during the closed beta with the smaller hand selected long term testers. It was removed again because players were using it in place of feed back.
There is a thrid time, if you want to count the sarcastic abuse of the lol button. At the time there was some definite toxicity in its use. There was probably some attempt to control the discussion by mass ridiculing dissenting opinions. And again, there was the lack of feedback, if you got a lol and didn't know why.
So now that there is a disagree plus a why: tldr it's easy to abuse and doesn't help understand the reason for disagreement.
Any one else wanting to disagree, but doesn't want to type a message out, can click agree on a post disagreeing like this one. (Assuming that post reflects why you disagree.)
I wasnt aware that there was this option before,
but now i hear more of it i see the issues.
Maybe its an idea to just simplify it to just the ability to "upvote" and " downvote" .0 -
milkbox✭✭✭✭✭Rohamad_Ali wrote: »Somebody came in and gave an "insightful" to every post in this thread. Probably to prove a point... or something.
Insightful gives you more stars . They think they are hurting your credibility but really just adding to it . The best way to show displeasure is to not give any reaction .
Understood- sometimes it's fun to just throw out stars for the heck of it.
So, would a "disagree" button also add stars? Or maybe it would take them away? Or they'd just be a running tally of shame on your profile with no star value at all...0 -
Rohamad_Ali✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Rohamad_Ali wrote: »Somebody came in and gave an "insightful" to every post in this thread. Probably to prove a point... or something.
Insightful gives you more stars . They think they are hurting your credibility but really just adding to it . The best way to show displeasure is to not give any reaction .
Understood- sometimes it's fun to just throw out stars for the heck of it.
So, would a "disagree" button also add stars? Or maybe it would take them away? Or they'd just be a running tally of shame on your profile with no star value at all...
I'm not sure but forum star mini game is mostly too serious and OP . Nerf forums .
But seriously way too many wrapped up in other people's opinions of them . We are all ESO Players at end of the day and should being kind not negative to each other .0
