Let's say...

milesrodneymcneely2_ESO · August 2016

TrueGreenSmoker wrote: »

Keep the Classes give us Spell Crafting

This right here, SO HARD, all day every day, x10^Infinity.

I'm hoping against hope that this system sees implementation.

San San mentioned summoning in the original comment. I was really looking forward to the Spellcrafting system, because it appeared that - as an example - you could alter the Daedric Summoning skill line to allow for the summoning of natural animals, undead, etc.

From what I was able to gather based on how much of the system we DID see, it really looked like the answer to all of our "personal character flavor" issues.

Add in a Hand-to-Hand skill line (or fist weapons to Dual Wield) and Polearms to round it out, and the character concepts would be virtually endless.

IMHO.

Abeille · August 2016

I would like to see a class that has a frost magic skill line. I would have to reroll my cryomancer (who is currently a sorcerer) if a class change token isn't introduced with it, but I would do it gladly if I can have frost magic skills other than the destruction staff skill line.

Ghettokid · August 2016

BruhItsOver9000 wrote: »

Orcs are lame.

How dare you? Orcs are the only reason why this game still gets some profit.

Bromburak · August 2016

Abeille wrote: »

I would like to see a class that has a frost magic skill line. I would have to reroll my cryomancer (who is currently a sorcerer) if a class change token isn't introduced with it, but I would do it gladly if I can have frost magic skills other than the destruction staff skill line.

Thats the issue with global availability in ESO when you want to move on by adding new classes.
Without a redesign ESO class architecture goes nowhere.

KochDerDamonen · August 2016

Something with Ice magic, ice magic, ice magic please.

You don't even get 5 frost themed spells out of destruction staff because the one spell is all elements regardless.

ZOS pls frost, idc what else the character does, frost damage magic

Tiitus · August 2016

We do not need new classes, we need spellcrafting and a broader reach of magicka/skills to make it feel more like a TES game.

FortheloveofKrist · August 2016

New skill line please:
Empty hand (with both stam and mag morphs

...so we have the option of fighting without a weapon without giving up weapon/spell damage.

Conquistador · August 2016

I want the Time Out class

redspecter23 · August 2016

I'd rather have more trees added to the current classes than to have more classes added. It allows you to fully fill out the classes we already have instead of adding yet another class that needs to be balanced and tweaked alongside the other 4.

potirondb16_ESO · August 2016

Personnally I have like 3 différents idea about that topic that all include no addition of playable class.

Idea number one

Create an Evolution for the mage and fighters guild.

Yup, why not simply create a specialisation system for those two guild, some in order to help you be a strongest tank, a better dot dps, a more diverse player and so for so on. This system could as an example allow you to be a Stemplar, member of the Ranger division of the fighter guild which would mean you would no longer gain acces to the usual fighter guild ability but would gather a new set of ability adapt for this specific division.

This could also mean a new specialisation Inside the mage guild as well.

Idea number two

Create an Archetype for your class.

Theese new archetype would allow any player over level 50 to increase the amount of ability available for one of the class skill line by 3 ability, one active and two passive. Those new ability bringing the player closer to a perfect mastery of that specific part of their class gameplay. As for example a Sorcerer of Specialise into Dark Magic would gain acces to two new passive, and one active skill whom fit the game play establish for that tree.

Morphing Weapon

Create a morphing system that change a specific weapon line.

The morphing system would work on the same principle as the one created for Imperial Edition. Except this time you are morphing weapon in order to achieve a more specific game play with each of them. As an example, the bow could eithe be morph into a crossbow or a longbow one giving more range and aoe oriented ability and the other a more single target DD perspective.

Inside that system some weapon such as the Restoration Staff, and the One-Handed Shield would only have one specific evolution, and the Destruction Staff would now be specific to the element you choose.

kamimark · August 2016

SanSan wrote: »

Let's say ESO is coming up with a new class.
What would you like to see?

Most of the classic ESO classes are covered well by existing classes, but I could see:

1. Monks for unarmed combat, physical training/agility class skills.
2. Rangers for archery, commanding/controlling animals as pets.

All the existing classes could use at least one more skill line, in particular Necromancy for Sorcerers.

Anhedonie · August 2016

Vildebill wrote: »

Necromancer!

Anhedonie wrote: »

The Warden. It could be an awesome class.
Best healing tree, mighty damaging skills, tanking using totems to mitigate damage and stuff. Not to mention summons and buffs.

You are describing the templar class, except for the totem

No, I'm not.
Templar supposed to be defensive, Warden supposed to be much more offensive.

Snowstrider · August 2016

Yes please.
Its getting a bit dull with all older classes,i heard that There once was a class called the warden which they removed in the beta,it was a nature support class

Rastoide · August 2016

DairyIsle wrote: »

I feel like the four classes really cover up all the roles needed for the game. Instead it will be better to add more class specific skill lines. So I'm riding the bandwagon on this one:
None.

Man, yess.. a sorcerer must be able to use all kinds of magic! Pleaseeee! :'(

:'(

SleepyTroll wrote: »

I'm think they will probably add more weapon skill lines, or even 2 more morphs to the class skills before they add another class but if they did add another class I would like to see a necromancer of some sort. Would be awsome to raise the dead in pvp to fight for you as zombies.

Thats the sorcerer you're talking about

Holycannoli · August 2016

TrueGreenSmoker wrote: »

Keep the Classes give us Spell Crafting

I don't anymore since I know it would be cash shop.

I want a necromancer-type class. Skeletons, zombies, spectres, life leech DoTs and poisons etc. -- and raising undead thralls like in Skyrim.

GarnetFire17 · August 2016

Martial Arts.

starkerealm · August 2016

Lysette wrote: »

starkerealm wrote: »

Araviel2 wrote: »

granted most of them are pretty outdated thanks to how ESO handles character customization, but a few of them i still think would have a place, like the Witchhunter or the Spellsword for example.

Spellsword would probably fit better if we didn't already have two heavy armor classes. Which is why I suggested Battlemage earlier.

2?- I play DK in medium armor, is that a fail - I am still very low level with this one.

Medium armor DKs are fun, and my SO has been running a medium armor Templar since launch.

Classes are grouped (vertically) on character creation by the type of armor they're expected to wear, however. So you have the heavy column (DK & Temp), Light Column (Sorcs), and Medium Column (NBs).

To be fair, Sorcs are traditionally a heavy armor caster in the single player games.

Originally, the plan was that there would be six classes. Two for each armor type, one offensive, one defensive. Templars are (in theory) your offensive heavy armor class. DKs are your defensive one (again, in theory). Sorcs were the defensive light armor class, and NBs were the offensive medium armor class.

The planned Warden class would have been the defensive medium armor class. No idea what the offensive light armor class would have been.

Now, obviously, a lot has changed since then. Originally Negate Magic was going to be a Warden ability (for example). But, it does give some ideas for where classes could fit, naturally, into ESO.

EDIT: That moment when an old draft you abandoned returns to haunt you...

Lysette · August 2016

One of the problems is, that when ZOS and Bethesda chose to reduce the 8 attributes of Oblivion to be just 3 now, a lot of the flexibility for creating specific classes or playstyles was lost. But ZOS did even worse, when they decided to scale damage from just 2 of these attributes, which led to min/maxing - and this combined with 4 classes led to just 8 min/maxed versions - and I guess that is why they made 8 character slots - there are just these 8 archetypes - 4 magicka based, 4 stamina based and basically nothing else what would be viable in a competitive environment, be it PvP or PvE.

My impression is, that those in charge for combat and game design are just thinking in these 8 archetypes and there will never be any effort to make hybrid builds viable - they just do not like them and that's it. It is there scheme to think in and I doubt that anything will change this unfortunately. Their view onto this game isn't wider than this and we will have to live with this.

Elfbait · August 2016

I'll take a Summoner build with an actual variety of summons, instead of three inexplicably lavender-ish critters.Winged Twilights weren't that garish even back in MW. And it's sort of dopey and underwhelming that the ability to summon a Daedroth comes from a piece of equipment instead of a summoning skill.

Lysette · August 2016

Elfbait wrote: »

I'll take a Summoner build with an actual variety of summons, instead of three inexplicably lavender-ish critters.Winged Twilights weren't that garish even back in MW. And it's sort of dopey and underwhelming that the ability to summon a Daedroth comes from a piece of equipment instead of a summoning skill.

Yeah, I have 2 sorceress because I thought I could play them like a conjurer - but no, it is nothing like this. And the best illusion abilities are where?- no, not in the the class where those would belong to - they are in the nightblade class.

The whole design of classes and the combat system at large is a mess - it does not follow the rules which we had in other TES games - same for armor - knights in full heavy armor with no movement penalty and such - it is poorly designed.

Drdeath20 · August 2016

Lysette wrote: »

Elfbait wrote: »

I'll take a Summoner build with an actual variety of summons, instead of three inexplicably lavender-ish critters.Winged Twilights weren't that garish even back in MW. And it's sort of dopey and underwhelming that the ability to summon a Daedroth comes from a piece of equipment instead of a summoning skill.

Yeah, I have 2 sorceress because I thought I could play them like a conjurer - but no, it is nothing like this. And the best illusion abilities are where?- no, not in the the class where those would belong to - they are in the nightblade class.

The whole design of classes and the combat system at large is a mess - it does not follow the rules which we had in other TES games - same for armor - knights in full heavy armor with no movement penalty and such - it is poorly designed.

The classes are a rune of what the game was initially intended to be.

Yolokin_Swagonborn · August 2016

I don't know what class they are going to add, or if they will ever add a new class. I can tell you with certainty however that the new class is OP and should be nerfed.

CherryCake · August 2016

Yolokin_Swagonborn wrote: »

I don't know what class they are going to add, or if they will ever add a new class. I can tell you with certainty however that the new class is OP and should be nerfed.

Omg your name!!! xDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD

Mandragora · August 2016

I think the classes in ESO are very limited, narrowed and they are only trying to make them unlimited with subclasses, which only looks wierd. I think they have to be there because of PvP, so what if those classes would be for PvP - where upon arrival to Cyrodil, you would have to choose the role you will play in their army?
But for PvE this is very limiting , non fitting and some players cannot really united themself with their chosen class because of this

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I was comparing the classes to LOTRO and in LOTRO they have classes taken from the world there, with fitting cool skills (a lot of them), but in ESO - you have 4 roles for dungeons with some skills, where you are not sure, why they are there, and that is all.

I wish they would fix this in ESO - or to have a lot of cool classes typical for the world of elderscrolls, or to have complete freedom, like it was in Skyrim. But this wierd combination doesn't really work for me. I can still play the game with it, but I really wish they would come with better system.

Jade1986 · August 2016

Bromburak wrote: »

SanSan wrote: »

The Sorc summoning thing is pretty poop.

Explain.

I agree with Sansan. Summoning is just lackluster. No ice atro, no flame atro, no daedroths, no spide daedra, no zombies, so forth and so on.

Jade1986 · August 2016

We need a crossbow skill line, we need a spear line. I would like a Nature magic based class.

Zenzuki · August 2016

Wouldn't mind any of these...

Necromancer
Paladin
Bard
Unarmed Fighter

Lysette · August 2016

Mandragora wrote: »

I think the classes in ESO are very limited, narrowed and they are only trying to make them unlimited with subclasses, which only looks wierd. I think they have to be there because of PvP, so what if those classes would be for PvP - where upon arrival to Cyrodil, you would have to choose the role you will play in their army?
But for PvE this is very limiting , non fitting and some players cannot really united themself with their chosen class because of this .

I was comparing the classes to LOTRO and in LOTRO they have classes taken from the world there, with fitting cool skills (a lot of them), but in ESO - you have 4 roles for dungeons with some skills, where you are not sure, why they are there, and that is all.

I wish they would fix this in ESO - or to have a lot of cool classes typical for the world of elderscrolls, or to have complete freedom, like it was in Skyrim. But this wierd combination doesn't really work for me. I can still play the game with it, but I really wish they would come with better system.

Oblivion had complete freedom of choice as well - if you chose to create a custom class.

Lysette · August 2016

starkerealm wrote: »

Lysette wrote: »

starkerealm wrote: »

Araviel2 wrote: »

granted most of them are pretty outdated thanks to how ESO handles character customization, but a few of them i still think would have a place, like the Witchhunter or the Spellsword for example.

Spellsword would probably fit better if we didn't already have two heavy armor classes. Which is why I suggested Battlemage earlier.

2?- I play DK in medium armor, is that a fail - I am still very low level with this one.

Medium armor DKs are fun, and my SO has been running a medium armor Templar since launch.

Classes are grouped (vertically) on character creation by the type of armor they're expected to wear, however. So you have the heavy column (DK & Temp), Light Column (Sorcs), and Medium Column (NBs).

To be fair, Sorcs are traditionally a heavy armor caster in the single player games.

Originally, the plan was that there would be six classes. Two for each armor type, one offensive, one defensive. Templars are (in theory) your offensive heavy armor class. DKs are your defensive one (again, in theory). Sorcs were the defensive light armor class, and NBs were the offensive medium armor class.

The planned Warden class would have been the defensive medium armor class. No idea what the offensive light armor class would have been.

Now, obviously, a lot has changed since then. Originally Negate Magic was going to be a Warden ability (for example). But, it does give some ideas for where classes could fit, naturally, into ESO.

EDIT: That moment when an old draft you abandoned returns to haunt you...

Nah, Sorcerer are not traditionally heavy armor casters in single player games - simply because before Skyrim there was a penalty for casters with any armor type - and heavy armor had the highest chance for a spell to fail. The traditional outfit of mages were robes with no casting chance penalty. I myself preferred enchanted every day's clothes in Oblivion and robes in Skyrim - a mage is not a person encased in metal, but shielded by magic and protected by summoned minions.

Mandragora · August 2016

Lysette wrote: »

Mandragora wrote: »

I think the classes in ESO are very limited, narrowed and they are only trying to make them unlimited with subclasses, which only looks wierd. I think they have to be there because of PvP, so what if those classes would be for PvP - where upon arrival to Cyrodil, you would have to choose the role you will play in their army?
But for PvE this is very limiting , non fitting and some players cannot really united themself with their chosen class because of this .

I was comparing the classes to LOTRO and in LOTRO they have classes taken from the world there, with fitting cool skills (a lot of them), but in ESO - you have 4 roles for dungeons with some skills, where you are not sure, why they are there, and that is all.

I wish they would fix this in ESO - or to have a lot of cool classes typical for the world of elderscrolls, or to have complete freedom, like it was in Skyrim. But this wierd combination doesn't really work for me. I can still play the game with it, but I really wish they would come with better system.

Oblivion had complete freedom of choice as well - if you chose to create a custom class.

OK, it is typical class system vs system, that would allow more of freedom, but still offer original RP classes, which is hard to combine.
I can understand, that they want to keep 4 classes, so you could have the freedom still to combine a lot - if there would be a lot of classes, it would mean no class skills between. In other MMOs, they deal with that with duplicate skills, but in ESO, you could combine them within limitations of that big class.

So maybe the class names gives you the feel, they are classes, but they are more like damage types and roles, so maybe it would be enough just to add 5th class - nature damage.