svartorn wrote: »

I love Deltia's laugh when a huge group is crushed.

A couple weeks back he used the phrase, "get taco bell dumped on" which really stuck with me lol

FENGRUSH wrote: »

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R-iu-5frY4M

So this is from my limited PVP this weekend - this is generally what were doing and how we play. Are we zerg surfing? Legitimate question. Were fighting with DC (theyre managing siege, they have a group that pushes out). But we just fight on our own. Because the way Mojican is describing things leads me to believe Im going to wait for a 24 man to push, or push with them, and operate purely based on what they do. What in reality, we just do our thing and will make decisions based on whats going on in the fight. When the wall is down on offense, we will push in (usually before the larger groups) and try to pivot opposite of them to stress whoever is inside and break the fight up and down camps. If this is zerg surfing, I guess we will agree to disagree.

I enjoy fighting over keeps that matter, and taking part in the big battles. People saying I hate ball groups seem to misunderstand the argument that Ive made over patches in the past. That groups could function in ways they cant now (moving with 24 man group popping barriers that hit everyone and rapids keeping healers untouched). Paired with AOE caps, there was literally no room for small groups to engage or take place in these fights. These things have changed a lot(Stam changes for my class for one, det, VC, armor/damage numbers). They arent perfect, but theyre much better than where they have been at. Do I blame the groups for playing to mechanics that make sense for mass PVP? No. I love mass PvP, and I always state I prefer it over BG type environments. I like the randomness of PvP in open world - I also would enjoy some PvP that is limited to a certain set of numbers too at times. But that and dueling are not my go-to style of PvP. So to people saying Im trying to change PvP to cater to that, are really incorrect. I just enjoyed the game without AOE caps and dynamic ult gen back in the day. It allowed smaller groups that functioned efficiently and effectively with teamwork to play to that very advantage. Im always open to different opinions, and have had my opinion changed on subjects by other people posing different points too. I try to stay unbiased, and give my honest opinion, which is often brash, and earns a lot of hate from those that may be applicable to the subject.


You cant please everyone, something Ive come to learn in streaming. Plenty of people take pop shots over snapshots of gameplay or a quote in a certain argument over time. Its real easy for a lot of you to throw punches when everything I do and say gets streamed in ESO. Lastly, to Mojican - in clips like the above, I dont believe 6 groups of 4 operating in a keep like we are there will cause as much lag as 1 group of 24 flooding AOEs on each other. If you disagree on this as well, we agree to disagree again I guess. To say a group like that is responsible for lagging the server as much as a group of 24 people stacking, I dont agree with it. Reality is, groups of 24 arent killing the server like they used to. Many patches ago, a group of 24 could be running through the keep flooding purges out and it would literally spike the servers lag right away. But that isnt happening as brutally as it once did - things are changing every patch. Performance is at the best its been in awhile right now for example.

Biggest issue with lag is faction stacking, and it happens a lot on TF and any server where a dethrone is happening. This is really just a behavioral thing and the way emperor works though, so thats really not changing. If I go to these battles and become a 'zerg surfer' - I legitimately want to know what you want me to do during these fights. Because other than sit outside the keep and kill people off mounts, Im not really sure what is available. But all the meanwhile - we are not 'stacking inside ball groups'. This is simply just slander, and yea - I did expect more from opponents I respect and consider equals on the battlefield.

dashima wrote: »

frozywozy wrote: »

I only t-bag people who have no honor or who disrespect me. I didn't t-bag your 8men group, I t-bagged one person in particular who always rage whisper me and disrespect me ingame for no reasons. I was not the only one to t-bag that person btw, I think we were 6 on top of him. Funny that you didn't bring those names in here aswell to try to shame them.

I also t-bag people who try to zerg me down but by some miracle the fight turns around and I manage to kill them. Those people deserve no respect either.

Something I never do : t-bagging someone after killing him while he was outnumbered. That is pure bad manners and simply childish (unless the person is a friend).

People do it to me constantly though. They will zerg me down outnumbered 15 to 1 and they will do all kind of emotes on me afterward. That is simply disgusting to see. It's like hey, it only took 15 of us to kill you and you were really bad btw so I'm going to t-bag you to make you realize that you should have survived against 15 of us. Make sense.

Btw don't try to bring numbers anymore in here. 35-40 EP against our 8men. Ok. I remember the last time Fantasia ran a group in TF. I'm not sure if it was yesterday or the day before. But I do remember a huge train of 20-30 ADs rolling between Aleswell and Bleakers farming a few EPs at a time.

If you don't wanna get stomped by 30-40players, stop trying to farm players on a ressource or running around openfield. That will always bring the zerg.

What an organized group like yours should be doing is capturing outposts or keeps and focus on map control. Running around openfield exposing yourself or trying to tower farm will always bring more numbers to deal with you.

Especially against EP who probably has the largest zerg guild nowadays.

Last thing, I like that sentence at the end of your post "He's never been respectful to anyone else". Excuse me but who are you again? Were you born in my childhood? Did we go to school together? Do you work at my place? Have we ever played this game together? Have we talked on teamspeak? If the answer is no to all of those questions, then I believe this is just another typical speculation to try to shame me by someone who has no idea what he's talking about.

I was speaking of Venatus, not Fantasia, but you've been known to be very rude towards them as well. Fantasia does run big raids often (12-24) but they don't chase after small groups or solo players, and I'm 100% positive Joshua and co has never wronged you lol. He's alarmingly pure-hearted and gentle.

manny254 wrote: »

PrinceFabious wrote: »

@manny254
All Im saying is..we all expected more from you.
You shouldnt call people zerglings when you have recently become one.
You like to bring up these false memorys to sustain your non-existing rep.
Enough from you

I expected a higher quality troll from you. 0/10
So you are trying to say I am creating a lie? I know you are delusional, but you have to try harder than that.

Rep?
What does that even mean? You are telling me you actually think I care what you think?

Ghost-Shot wrote: »

Rohamad_Ali wrote: »

The more friends you play with the worse you Zerg and are therefore a worse player .
(Very little if any truth)

Branch off and back cap a keep the other Zerg is spawning from .
(Take a smaller group and face the horde at its source and get rolled)

Back cap a keep far away from everyone to divert the enemy .
(You are a PvDoor guild , no skill)


The more I read the more I understand just how many people are so wrapped up in making themselves look good , they lose all common sense about other people . How about just play the game your way and let other play their way and just have fun .

Well you see, MMO's at their core are really all about playing solo or with as few people as possible, it is a Minimal Multiplayer Online game after all.

On a serious note, we can all agree that the faction events are bad and the game becomes unplayable when it happens but this is a game that is focused on large scale combat so you can't really fault people for gravitating towards the big battles. There are only so many spots where fights happen on the map, personally I would rather fight where the big fights are than fight the NPC's in an empty keep.

manny254 wrote: »

Rohamad_Ali wrote: »

The more friends you play with the worse you Zerg and are therefore a worse player .
(Very little if any truth)

Branch off and back cap a keep the other Zerg is spawning from .
(Take a smaller group and face the horde at its source and get rolled)

Back cap a keep far away from everyone to divert the enemy .
(You are a PvDoor guild , no skill)


The more I read the more I understand just how many people are so wrapped up in making themselves look good , they lose all common sense about other people . How about just play the game your way and let other play their way and just have fun .

Have you been actually reading what I wrote or have been spending too much time trying to reroll to AD because they have the stronger overall presence? DC not good enough for you now that CN, VE and K hole left?

I never called players bad for zerging. I simply tried to make people aware that they do the same thing they preach against.

I never said that you had to take keeps. I said that it is generally a good Idea to spread people out by flagging a keep. Flagging a keeps is a common tactic to get a fight, and help the map by cutting of a respawn. If that doesn't work then sure try to take it until you get some good PVP. Getting a response should not be an issue if you are actually playing on a populated server. If it is a problem on a populated server then the enemy deserves to be punished as I said.

If you really think I or my friends are no skill PvDoor players I invite you to put that to the test my friend.

Mustard wrote: »

manny254 wrote: »

PrinceFabious wrote: »

@manny254
All Im saying is..we all expected more from you.
You shouldnt call people zerglings when you have recently become one.
You like to bring up these false memorys to sustain your non-existing rep.
Enough from you

I expected a higher quality troll from you. 0/10
So you are trying to say I am creating a lie? I know you are delusional, but you have to try harder than that.

Rep?
What does that even mean? You are telling me you actually think I care what you think?

I think most people have a hard time trusting someone like you who got banned with LowPolicy, Chief, and Slaygod.

Repeating something a million times will not make it true. I have never been banned.

manny254 wrote: »

moiraleafcull wrote: »

manny254 wrote: »

frozywozy wrote: »

manny254 wrote: »

Frozn the solo player. 10/10

Dude, you gotta stop with this "Frozn the solo player" shaming. You've said that a good dozen of times in my whispers. Everytime you get killed after trying to farm EP pugs early morning on Arrius mine. I've tried to explain to you with different words but you simply don't seem to get it, or you just don't care and your main goal is to try to shame me or troll me.

Here it is once again. When I say that I run solo, it doesn't mean that I go out in the open, run away from any EP and try to create my own fights all by myself. It wouldn't work for multiple reasons.

First of all, this is well known that DC and AD have the most amount of experienced small scale players on the NA servers at least. I told you that several times. So being all by myself would be very hard to compete against those small squads of 2-6 min/max AD and DC players with 4-5k weapon dmg who can almost one shot you with the uppercut/dawnbreaker combo. I would get killed and would be riding back 12times a day.

Secondly, I am mainly a healer on my magplar. The only decent damage I have is Radiant destruction (which only works if I get my target bellow 50% health). The only players I kill in 1vX (it does happen everyday) are bad players who have no idea what they are doing. Against experienced players, the fight just last forever and no one die.

So when I say that I run solo, it doesn't mean that I'm all by myself trying to be a hero 1vXer. It means that I made the choice to not run with zerg guilds because I don't enjoy that playstyle at all but I still try to follow small/medium good groups when I see them and have fun with them. I also zerg surf when there is nothing else happening on the map like anybody else.

Now regarding this video, I was really surprised to see me in. I didn't even know that fight happened and I was also not aware that a duel was supposed to happen. When you see me in the video, I just arrived to the town, saw I was outnumbered by alot and moved away from the fight.

No no no no.

The point is that you are not a solo player. You may be ungrouped, but you zerg every bit as hard as a person who plays in a grouped raid. You are oblivious to that fact, and that is why it is a running joke. This is not some new occurance with your templar. This is something you have been oblivious to for a very long time.

I hate to burst your bubble, but you are probably a bigger zerger than all the VE players you despise. BTW I am healer is not a excuse. A healing build is not a solo build. Any half way competent play should recognize they should change there skills/gear in/outside a group. It is purely an excuse to try and excuse stacking with every EP pug in existence.

That is fine you are welcome to do that, but don't go and harass other people and call them zerglings. I have had a longstanding dislike of VE, but you and other people like @PrinceFabious and @FENGRUSH zerg every bit as hard as them. Then go and talk massive *** to them. I hate to burst your bubble, but stacking with 100 pugs is just as bad as being in a 24 man raid.

Says the one farming on the coattails of 2 24 man raids last night.

So you completely changed your post to try and create a larger lie? I fought completely off to the side last night, but I can understand the salt if you felt farmed by me. On that note why is that no matter what I do I am somehow always an AP farmer? Like I said I can understand if you felt farmed, but I generally just look for a fun fight.

PrinceFabious wrote: »

I just dont understan

moiraleafcull wrote: »

manny254 wrote: »

frozywozy wrote: »

manny254 wrote: »

Frozn the solo player. 10/10

Dude, you gotta stop with this "Frozn the solo player" shaming. You've said that a good dozen of times in my whispers. Everytime you get killed after trying to farm EP pugs early morning on Arrius mine. I've tried to explain to you with different words but you simply don't seem to get it, or you just don't care and your main goal is to try to shame me or troll me.

Here it is once again. When I say that I run solo, it doesn't mean that I go out in the open, run away from any EP and try to create my own fights all by myself. It wouldn't work for multiple reasons.

First of all, this is well known that DC and AD have the most amount of experienced small scale players on the NA servers at least. I told you that several times. So being all by myself would be very hard to compete against those small squads of 2-6 min/max AD and DC players with 4-5k weapon dmg who can almost one shot you with the uppercut/dawnbreaker combo. I would get killed and would be riding back 12times a day.

Secondly, I am mainly a healer on my magplar. The only decent damage I have is Radiant destruction (which only works if I get my target bellow 50% health). The only players I kill in 1vX (it does happen everyday) are bad players who have no idea what they are doing. Against experienced players, the fight just last forever and no one die.

So when I say that I run solo, it doesn't mean that I'm all by myself trying to be a hero 1vXer. It means that I made the choice to not run with zerg guilds because I don't enjoy that playstyle at all but I still try to follow small/medium good groups when I see them and have fun with them. I also zerg surf when there is nothing else happening on the map like anybody else.

Now regarding this video, I was really surprised to see me in. I didn't even know that fight happened and I was also not aware that a duel was supposed to happen. When you see me in the video, I just arrived to the town, saw I was outnumbered by alot and moved away from the fight.

No no no no.

The point is that you are not a solo player. You may be ungrouped, but you zerg every bit as hard as a person who plays in a grouped raid. You are oblivious to that fact, and that is why it is a running joke. This is not some new occurance with your templar. This is something you have been oblivious to for a very long time.

I hate to burst your bubble, but you are probably a bigger zerger than all the VE players you despise. BTW I am healer is not a excuse. A healing build is not a solo build. Any half way competent play should recognize they should change there skills/gear in/outside a group. It is purely an excuse to try and excuse stacking with every EP pug in existence.

That is fine you are welcome to do that, but don't go and harass other people and call them zerglings. I have had a longstanding dislike of VE, but you and other people like @PrinceFabious and @FENGRUSH zerg every bit as hard as them. Then go and talk massive *** to them. I hate to burst your bubble, but stacking with 100 pugs is just as bad as being in a 24 man raid.

Says the one farming on the coattails of 2 24 man raids last night.

Can confirm Moji was zerg surfing yesterday on his NB. I specifically remember him pushing out and getting exposed by my flurry in front of the full raids. What a cute guy.

So you are trying to say I was zerg surfing, but you also say I was not with the zerg? That does not make sense. From my memory you where right in the middle of a large amount of EP. You broke off to put up a camp for your friend. I tried to stop you from getting a camp up, but you succeeded and 3 players spawned and DB'ed me. Sorry that I wasn't zerg surfing in the middle of the AD and 3 players can kill a NB with DB? The only other time I can recall encountering you was when I was playing Kaiz. We decided to go up to bleakers and on the way we found you and your friend in the lane. We started to fight, but bunch of AD showed up and we had the class to leave you alone. Sorry that not attacking you was zerg surfing?

Mustard wrote: »

manny254 wrote: »

FENGRUSH wrote: »

manny254 wrote: »

FENGRUSH wrote: »

Darnathian wrote: »

FENGRUSH wrote: »

manny254 wrote: »

frozywozy wrote: »

manny254 wrote: »

Frozn the solo player. 10/10

Dude, you gotta stop with this "Frozn the solo player" shaming. You've said that a good dozen of times in my whispers. Everytime you get killed after trying to farm EP pugs early morning on Arrius mine. I've tried to explain to you with different words but you simply don't seem to get it, or you just don't care and your main goal is to try to shame me or troll me.

Here it is once again. When I say that I run solo, it doesn't mean that I go out in the open, run away from any EP and try to create my own fights all by myself. It wouldn't work for multiple reasons.

First of all, this is well known that DC and AD have the most amount of experienced small scale players on the NA servers at least. I told you that several times. So being all by myself would be very hard to compete against those small squads of 2-6 min/max AD and DC players with 4-5k weapon dmg who can almost one shot you with the uppercut/dawnbreaker combo. I would get killed and would be riding back 12times a day.

Secondly, I am mainly a healer on my magplar. The only decent damage I have is Radiant destruction (which only works if I get my target bellow 50% health). The only players I kill in 1vX (it does happen everyday) are bad players who have no idea what they are doing. Against experienced players, the fight just last forever and no one die.

So when I say that I run solo, it doesn't mean that I'm all by myself trying to be a hero 1vXer. It means that I made the choice to not run with zerg guilds because I don't enjoy that playstyle at all but I still try to follow small/medium good groups when I see them and have fun with them. I also zerg surf when there is nothing else happening on the map like anybody else.

Now regarding this video, I was really surprised to see me in. I didn't even know that fight happened and I was also not aware that a duel was supposed to happen. When you see me in the video, I just arrived to the town, saw I was outnumbered by alot and moved away from the fight.

No no no no.

The point is that you are not a solo player. You may be ungrouped, but you zerg every bit as hard as a person who plays in a grouped raid. You are oblivious to that fact, and that is why it is a running joke. This is not some new occurance with your templar. This is something you have been oblivious to for a very long time.

I hate to burst your bubble, but you are probably a bigger zerger than all the VE players you despise. BTW I am healer is not a excuse. A healing build is not a solo build. Any half way competent play should recognize they should change there skills/gear in/outside a group. It is purely an excuse to try and excuse stacking with every EP pug in existence.

That is fine you are welcome to do that, but don't go and harass other people and call them zerglings. I have had a longstanding dislike of VE, but you and other people like @PrinceFabious and @FENGRUSH zerg every bit as hard as them. Then go and talk massive *** to them. I hate to burst your bubble, but stacking with 100 pugs is just as bad as being in a 24 man raid.

Pretty messed up Mojican. Thought you were better than that bro.

But true. lol

Still don't even know who you play outside of a dk that complained about stam sorc being overpowered after being beat 1v1 after they were literally at their absolute weakest a year ago. At least Mojican can play the game, he's just being spiteful.

Spiteful? I am being honest, and telling you what you don't want to hear. You are a zerger Fengrush. We can sit here and argue circles, but you are a zerger. I am not trying to talk down to you. I am telling the truth.

I tuned into your stream a few times, and every time you where stacking with hordes and hordes of DC. That is zerging and just as bad as being an 24 man ball group in my eyes. That is great you can do that, but I have witnessed you treat others very disrespectfully on the forums for doing the same things. Trust me I despise VE/large ball groups, but I can not ignore your hypocrisy. I am sure plenty of VE players can attest to my strong dislike of them.

If doing small man groups on the front lines is equivalent to forming a 24 man group - then youre completely delusional. I push front lines most of the time on stream. I often go off to back resources and bridges which means nothing other than farming AP. I could sit inside a tower with a small team and farm AP too (or truly challenge myself and do it with a dozen+ RAGE style), or sit on the bridge every night and do that as well, but I actually enjoy getting in the mix of large battles.

If youve ever taken time to watch the stream, youd see any group Im with will generally split off and do objectives away from the pack of DC (clearing camps, sweeping siege lines, flanking ball groups). Exceptions include when pushing the inner keep, but Im not sure what you want me to do. Want me to gank reinforcements on horseback that arent in group waiting for camps outside the keep with 4 people? I know theres some other highly experienced players that enjoy doing that. Im not really into it.

As far as being disrespectful, Im not even sure who or what you mean. Ive complained about ball groups for the same reason you did in this thread - when they form up and clash in mass, the server has a heart attack. But people will do it to win. Im not even disrespectful to VE - Ive responded a lot to a certain person from their guild who says I know nothing about the game or its meta because I dont mass in large groups. Ive stated VE has a large composition of great players, and then its also probably made up of players that cant stand well alone or in small group PvP. If you take that as an insult, Id say youre probably as sensitive as they are and open to prove otherwise.

You are being spiteful. Youre basically saying I ride in zergs for success, when you know full well I have small groups that stand perfectly fine on their own. They dont jump inside groups during large battles for heals, or barriers, or damage reduction. We fight and die isolated 95% of the time. Thats why these kind of posts really dont do you any good. Because I can acknowledge you are a good player who doesnt need to zerg surf, but wouldnt label you as one if youre in a group that has to push front lines (or hit back keeps that are empty to get isnide and farm with a scroll). I think youve participated in more groups of larger size than mine as well, just take a look at your sig and see guilds that have run me down 1v10+ countless times. But I wont slander someone without good reason as you have chosen to do. Sorry for however I offended you guy, I just tell it how it is and have plenty of witnesses to attest that youre way off base in your post.

Fengrush having a group of 4 among a sea of DC is just like being a 24 man group, and this is something you are very practiced in. You are completely delusional if you think that stacking with majority of the DC faction is conducive to small scale pvp. I would also like to provide a magical insight missed by a large amount of the community. If you are participating in a large battle don't blame everyone around you for the lag. You are a part of the issue, and every bit as guilty as the individual members of the 24 man raids you curse.

You seem to be missing the point of my message. It is not to treat you unfavorably, but to speak the honest truth. I am not attempting to speak down to you or your groups ability. I am not trying to shame you. I am pointing out your hypocrisies. You commonly try speak against zerging and ball groups. That is great you have every right to do that, but you do so as a hypocrite. To be absolutely clear I don't care that you Zerg, but I am not the type sit idle while I see you speaking against precisely what you do yourself.

Once again this is not some attempt to take a jab at you or speak badly of you. This is purely the truth. If you don't want me to think of you as a zerger then don't spend so much time with stacked DC. If you want to retaliate and try to call me the same thing then do so. I don't really care, but I will tell you what basic observation skills can provide me. Take all the Jabs you want, but you are against someone who might know the skill better than you.

Mojican,

Didn't you get banned with LowPolicy, Chief, and Slaygod?

I have never been banned or done anything to be banned. Additionally I firmly believe that anyone who used CE to any degree should be perma banned. The only bothersome thing to me is that the most blatant cheater is allowed to play the game, and that his vMA score was allowed to stay until the leader board reset of the patch.

FENGRUSH wrote: »

manny254 wrote: »

moiraleafcull wrote: »

manny254 wrote: »

frozywozy wrote: »

manny254 wrote: »

Frozn the solo player. 10/10

Dude, you gotta stop with this "Frozn the solo player" shaming. You've said that a good dozen of times in my whispers. Everytime you get killed after trying to farm EP pugs early morning on Arrius mine. I've tried to explain to you with different words but you simply don't seem to get it, or you just don't care and your main goal is to try to shame me or troll me.

Here it is once again. When I say that I run solo, it doesn't mean that I go out in the open, run away from any EP and try to create my own fights all by myself. It wouldn't work for multiple reasons.

First of all, this is well known that DC and AD have the most amount of experienced small scale players on the NA servers at least. I told you that several times. So being all by myself would be very hard to compete against those small squads of 2-6 min/max AD and DC players with 4-5k weapon dmg who can almost one shot you with the uppercut/dawnbreaker combo. I would get killed and would be riding back 12times a day.

Secondly, I am mainly a healer on my magplar. The only decent damage I have is Radiant destruction (which only works if I get my target bellow 50% health). The only players I kill in 1vX (it does happen everyday) are bad players who have no idea what they are doing. Against experienced players, the fight just last forever and no one die.

So when I say that I run solo, it doesn't mean that I'm all by myself trying to be a hero 1vXer. It means that I made the choice to not run with zerg guilds because I don't enjoy that playstyle at all but I still try to follow small/medium good groups when I see them and have fun with them. I also zerg surf when there is nothing else happening on the map like anybody else.

Now regarding this video, I was really surprised to see me in. I didn't even know that fight happened and I was also not aware that a duel was supposed to happen. When you see me in the video, I just arrived to the town, saw I was outnumbered by alot and moved away from the fight.

No no no no.

The point is that you are not a solo player. You may be ungrouped, but you zerg every bit as hard as a person who plays in a grouped raid. You are oblivious to that fact, and that is why it is a running joke. This is not some new occurance with your templar. This is something you have been oblivious to for a very long time.

I hate to burst your bubble, but you are probably a bigger zerger than all the VE players you despise. BTW I am healer is not a excuse. A healing build is not a solo build. Any half way competent play should recognize they should change there skills/gear in/outside a group. It is purely an excuse to try and excuse stacking with every EP pug in existence.

That is fine you are welcome to do that, but don't go and harass other people and call them zerglings. I have had a longstanding dislike of VE, but you and other people like @PrinceFabious and @FENGRUSH zerg every bit as hard as them. Then go and talk massive *** to them. I hate to burst your bubble, but stacking with 100 pugs is just as bad as being in a 24 man raid.

Says the one farming on the coattails of 2 24 man raids last night.

So you completely changed your post to try and create a larger lie? I fought completely off to the side last night, but I can understand the salt if you felt farmed by me. On that note why is that no matter what I do I am somehow always an AP farmer? Like I said I can understand if you felt farmed, but I generally just look for a fun fight.

PrinceFabious wrote: »

I just dont understan

moiraleafcull wrote: »

manny254 wrote: »

frozywozy wrote: »

manny254 wrote: »

Frozn the solo player. 10/10

Dude, you gotta stop with this "Frozn the solo player" shaming. You've said that a good dozen of times in my whispers. Everytime you get killed after trying to farm EP pugs early morning on Arrius mine. I've tried to explain to you with different words but you simply don't seem to get it, or you just don't care and your main goal is to try to shame me or troll me.

Here it is once again. When I say that I run solo, it doesn't mean that I go out in the open, run away from any EP and try to create my own fights all by myself. It wouldn't work for multiple reasons.

First of all, this is well known that DC and AD have the most amount of experienced small scale players on the NA servers at least. I told you that several times. So being all by myself would be very hard to compete against those small squads of 2-6 min/max AD and DC players with 4-5k weapon dmg who can almost one shot you with the uppercut/dawnbreaker combo. I would get killed and would be riding back 12times a day.

Secondly, I am mainly a healer on my magplar. The only decent damage I have is Radiant destruction (which only works if I get my target bellow 50% health). The only players I kill in 1vX (it does happen everyday) are bad players who have no idea what they are doing. Against experienced players, the fight just last forever and no one die.

So when I say that I run solo, it doesn't mean that I'm all by myself trying to be a hero 1vXer. It means that I made the choice to not run with zerg guilds because I don't enjoy that playstyle at all but I still try to follow small/medium good groups when I see them and have fun with them. I also zerg surf when there is nothing else happening on the map like anybody else.

Now regarding this video, I was really surprised to see me in. I didn't even know that fight happened and I was also not aware that a duel was supposed to happen. When you see me in the video, I just arrived to the town, saw I was outnumbered by alot and moved away from the fight.

No no no no.

The point is that you are not a solo player. You may be ungrouped, but you zerg every bit as hard as a person who plays in a grouped raid. You are oblivious to that fact, and that is why it is a running joke. This is not some new occurance with your templar. This is something you have been oblivious to for a very long time.

I hate to burst your bubble, but you are probably a bigger zerger than all the VE players you despise. BTW I am healer is not a excuse. A healing build is not a solo build. Any half way competent play should recognize they should change there skills/gear in/outside a group. It is purely an excuse to try and excuse stacking with every EP pug in existence.

That is fine you are welcome to do that, but don't go and harass other people and call them zerglings. I have had a longstanding dislike of VE, but you and other people like @PrinceFabious and @FENGRUSH zerg every bit as hard as them. Then go and talk massive *** to them. I hate to burst your bubble, but stacking with 100 pugs is just as bad as being in a 24 man raid.

Says the one farming on the coattails of 2 24 man raids last night.

Can confirm Moji was zerg surfing yesterday on his NB. I specifically remember him pushing out and getting exposed by my flurry in front of the full raids. What a cute guy.

So you are trying to say I was zerg surfing, but you also say I was not with the zerg? That does not make sense. From my memory you where right in the middle of a large amount of EP. You broke off to put up a camp for your friend. I tried to stop you from getting a camp up, but you succeeded and 3 players spawned and DB'ed me. Sorry that I wasn't zerg surfing in the middle of the AD and 3 players can kill a NB with DB? The only other time I can recall encountering you was when I was playing Kaiz. We decided to go up to bleakers and on the way we found you and your friend in the lane. We started to fight, but bunch of AD showed up and we had the class to leave you alone. Sorry that not attacking you was zerg surfing?

Mustard wrote: »

manny254 wrote: »

FENGRUSH wrote: »

manny254 wrote: »

FENGRUSH wrote: »

Darnathian wrote: »

FENGRUSH wrote: »

manny254 wrote: »

frozywozy wrote: »

manny254 wrote: »

Frozn the solo player. 10/10

Dude, you gotta stop with this "Frozn the solo player" shaming. You've said that a good dozen of times in my whispers. Everytime you get killed after trying to farm EP pugs early morning on Arrius mine. I've tried to explain to you with different words but you simply don't seem to get it, or you just don't care and your main goal is to try to shame me or troll me.

Here it is once again. When I say that I run solo, it doesn't mean that I go out in the open, run away from any EP and try to create my own fights all by myself. It wouldn't work for multiple reasons.

First of all, this is well known that DC and AD have the most amount of experienced small scale players on the NA servers at least. I told you that several times. So being all by myself would be very hard to compete against those small squads of 2-6 min/max AD and DC players with 4-5k weapon dmg who can almost one shot you with the uppercut/dawnbreaker combo. I would get killed and would be riding back 12times a day.

Secondly, I am mainly a healer on my magplar. The only decent damage I have is Radiant destruction (which only works if I get my target bellow 50% health). The only players I kill in 1vX (it does happen everyday) are bad players who have no idea what they are doing. Against experienced players, the fight just last forever and no one die.

So when I say that I run solo, it doesn't mean that I'm all by myself trying to be a hero 1vXer. It means that I made the choice to not run with zerg guilds because I don't enjoy that playstyle at all but I still try to follow small/medium good groups when I see them and have fun with them. I also zerg surf when there is nothing else happening on the map like anybody else.

Now regarding this video, I was really surprised to see me in. I didn't even know that fight happened and I was also not aware that a duel was supposed to happen. When you see me in the video, I just arrived to the town, saw I was outnumbered by alot and moved away from the fight.

No no no no.

The point is that you are not a solo player. You may be ungrouped, but you zerg every bit as hard as a person who plays in a grouped raid. You are oblivious to that fact, and that is why it is a running joke. This is not some new occurance with your templar. This is something you have been oblivious to for a very long time.

I hate to burst your bubble, but you are probably a bigger zerger than all the VE players you despise. BTW I am healer is not a excuse. A healing build is not a solo build. Any half way competent play should recognize they should change there skills/gear in/outside a group. It is purely an excuse to try and excuse stacking with every EP pug in existence.

That is fine you are welcome to do that, but don't go and harass other people and call them zerglings. I have had a longstanding dislike of VE, but you and other people like @PrinceFabious and @FENGRUSH zerg every bit as hard as them. Then go and talk massive *** to them. I hate to burst your bubble, but stacking with 100 pugs is just as bad as being in a 24 man raid.

Pretty messed up Mojican. Thought you were better than that bro.

But true. lol

Still don't even know who you play outside of a dk that complained about stam sorc being overpowered after being beat 1v1 after they were literally at their absolute weakest a year ago. At least Mojican can play the game, he's just being spiteful.

Spiteful? I am being honest, and telling you what you don't want to hear. You are a zerger Fengrush. We can sit here and argue circles, but you are a zerger. I am not trying to talk down to you. I am telling the truth.

I tuned into your stream a few times, and every time you where stacking with hordes and hordes of DC. That is zerging and just as bad as being an 24 man ball group in my eyes. That is great you can do that, but I have witnessed you treat others very disrespectfully on the forums for doing the same things. Trust me I despise VE/large ball groups, but I can not ignore your hypocrisy. I am sure plenty of VE players can attest to my strong dislike of them.

If doing small man groups on the front lines is equivalent to forming a 24 man group - then youre completely delusional. I push front lines most of the time on stream. I often go off to back resources and bridges which means nothing other than farming AP. I could sit inside a tower with a small team and farm AP too (or truly challenge myself and do it with a dozen+ RAGE style), or sit on the bridge every night and do that as well, but I actually enjoy getting in the mix of large battles.

If youve ever taken time to watch the stream, youd see any group Im with will generally split off and do objectives away from the pack of DC (clearing camps, sweeping siege lines, flanking ball groups). Exceptions include when pushing the inner keep, but Im not sure what you want me to do. Want me to gank reinforcements on horseback that arent in group waiting for camps outside the keep with 4 people? I know theres some other highly experienced players that enjoy doing that. Im not really into it.

As far as being disrespectful, Im not even sure who or what you mean. Ive complained about ball groups for the same reason you did in this thread - when they form up and clash in mass, the server has a heart attack. But people will do it to win. Im not even disrespectful to VE - Ive responded a lot to a certain person from their guild who says I know nothing about the game or its meta because I dont mass in large groups. Ive stated VE has a large composition of great players, and then its also probably made up of players that cant stand well alone or in small group PvP. If you take that as an insult, Id say youre probably as sensitive as they are and open to prove otherwise.

You are being spiteful. Youre basically saying I ride in zergs for success, when you know full well I have small groups that stand perfectly fine on their own. They dont jump inside groups during large battles for heals, or barriers, or damage reduction. We fight and die isolated 95% of the time. Thats why these kind of posts really dont do you any good. Because I can acknowledge you are a good player who doesnt need to zerg surf, but wouldnt label you as one if youre in a group that has to push front lines (or hit back keeps that are empty to get isnide and farm with a scroll). I think youve participated in more groups of larger size than mine as well, just take a look at your sig and see guilds that have run me down 1v10+ countless times. But I wont slander someone without good reason as you have chosen to do. Sorry for however I offended you guy, I just tell it how it is and have plenty of witnesses to attest that youre way off base in your post.

Fengrush having a group of 4 among a sea of DC is just like being a 24 man group, and this is something you are very practiced in. You are completely delusional if you think that stacking with majority of the DC faction is conducive to small scale pvp. I would also like to provide a magical insight missed by a large amount of the community. If you are participating in a large battle don't blame everyone around you for the lag. You are a part of the issue, and every bit as guilty as the individual members of the 24 man raids you curse.

You seem to be missing the point of my message. It is not to treat you unfavorably, but to speak the honest truth. I am not attempting to speak down to you or your groups ability. I am not trying to shame you. I am pointing out your hypocrisies. You commonly try speak against zerging and ball groups. That is great you have every right to do that, but you do so as a hypocrite. To be absolutely clear I don't care that you Zerg, but I am not the type sit idle while I see you speaking against precisely what you do yourself.

Once again this is not some attempt to take a jab at you or speak badly of you. This is purely the truth. If you don't want me to think of you as a zerger then don't spend so much time with stacked DC. If you want to retaliate and try to call me the same thing then do so. I don't really care, but I will tell you what basic observation skills can provide me. Take all the Jabs you want, but you are against someone who might know the skill better than you.

Mojican,

Didn't you get banned with LowPolicy, Chief, and Slaygod?

I have never been banned or done anything to be banned. Additionally I firmly believe that anyone who used CE to any degree should be perma banned. The only bothersome thing to me is that the most blatant cheater is allowed to play the game, and that his vMA score was allowed to stay until the leader board reset of the patch.

Why can you fight completely off to the side in fights and not be zerging but if FENGRUSH fights off to the side he is zerg surfing inside ball groups?

Also - to your point of going and flagging back keeps - I do if I have a larger group (5+). 90% of the time I am in a 1-3man size group (that means solo or with 1 or 2 people). I am not going to flag Arrius when Im solo or with 1 other generally. I invite you to travel 10minutes out of your way to hop on siege 3 keeps deep though with 500 people watching you on stream. Youll never get ganked off the treb, promise. It will be a great experience for you.

FENGRUSH wrote: »

manny254 wrote: »

moiraleafcull wrote: »

manny254 wrote: »

frozywozy wrote: »

manny254 wrote: »

Frozn the solo player. 10/10

Dude, you gotta stop with this "Frozn the solo player" shaming. You've said that a good dozen of times in my whispers. Everytime you get killed after trying to farm EP pugs early morning on Arrius mine. I've tried to explain to you with different words but you simply don't seem to get it, or you just don't care and your main goal is to try to shame me or troll me.

Here it is once again. When I say that I run solo, it doesn't mean that I go out in the open, run away from any EP and try to create my own fights all by myself. It wouldn't work for multiple reasons.

First of all, this is well known that DC and AD have the most amount of experienced small scale players on the NA servers at least. I told you that several times. So being all by myself would be very hard to compete against those small squads of 2-6 min/max AD and DC players with 4-5k weapon dmg who can almost one shot you with the uppercut/dawnbreaker combo. I would get killed and would be riding back 12times a day.

Secondly, I am mainly a healer on my magplar. The only decent damage I have is Radiant destruction (which only works if I get my target bellow 50% health). The only players I kill in 1vX (it does happen everyday) are bad players who have no idea what they are doing. Against experienced players, the fight just last forever and no one die.

So when I say that I run solo, it doesn't mean that I'm all by myself trying to be a hero 1vXer. It means that I made the choice to not run with zerg guilds because I don't enjoy that playstyle at all but I still try to follow small/medium good groups when I see them and have fun with them. I also zerg surf when there is nothing else happening on the map like anybody else.

Now regarding this video, I was really surprised to see me in. I didn't even know that fight happened and I was also not aware that a duel was supposed to happen. When you see me in the video, I just arrived to the town, saw I was outnumbered by alot and moved away from the fight.

No no no no.

The point is that you are not a solo player. You may be ungrouped, but you zerg every bit as hard as a person who plays in a grouped raid. You are oblivious to that fact, and that is why it is a running joke. This is not some new occurance with your templar. This is something you have been oblivious to for a very long time.

I hate to burst your bubble, but you are probably a bigger zerger than all the VE players you despise. BTW I am healer is not a excuse. A healing build is not a solo build. Any half way competent play should recognize they should change there skills/gear in/outside a group. It is purely an excuse to try and excuse stacking with every EP pug in existence.

That is fine you are welcome to do that, but don't go and harass other people and call them zerglings. I have had a longstanding dislike of VE, but you and other people like @PrinceFabious and @FENGRUSH zerg every bit as hard as them. Then go and talk massive *** to them. I hate to burst your bubble, but stacking with 100 pugs is just as bad as being in a 24 man raid.

Says the one farming on the coattails of 2 24 man raids last night.

So you completely changed your post to try and create a larger lie? I fought completely off to the side last night, but I can understand the salt if you felt farmed by me. On that note why is that no matter what I do I am somehow always an AP farmer? Like I said I can understand if you felt farmed, but I generally just look for a fun fight.

PrinceFabious wrote: »

I just dont understan

moiraleafcull wrote: »

manny254 wrote: »

frozywozy wrote: »

manny254 wrote: »

Frozn the solo player. 10/10

Dude, you gotta stop with this "Frozn the solo player" shaming. You've said that a good dozen of times in my whispers. Everytime you get killed after trying to farm EP pugs early morning on Arrius mine. I've tried to explain to you with different words but you simply don't seem to get it, or you just don't care and your main goal is to try to shame me or troll me.

Here it is once again. When I say that I run solo, it doesn't mean that I go out in the open, run away from any EP and try to create my own fights all by myself. It wouldn't work for multiple reasons.

First of all, this is well known that DC and AD have the most amount of experienced small scale players on the NA servers at least. I told you that several times. So being all by myself would be very hard to compete against those small squads of 2-6 min/max AD and DC players with 4-5k weapon dmg who can almost one shot you with the uppercut/dawnbreaker combo. I would get killed and would be riding back 12times a day.

Secondly, I am mainly a healer on my magplar. The only decent damage I have is Radiant destruction (which only works if I get my target bellow 50% health). The only players I kill in 1vX (it does happen everyday) are bad players who have no idea what they are doing. Against experienced players, the fight just last forever and no one die.

So when I say that I run solo, it doesn't mean that I'm all by myself trying to be a hero 1vXer. It means that I made the choice to not run with zerg guilds because I don't enjoy that playstyle at all but I still try to follow small/medium good groups when I see them and have fun with them. I also zerg surf when there is nothing else happening on the map like anybody else.

Now regarding this video, I was really surprised to see me in. I didn't even know that fight happened and I was also not aware that a duel was supposed to happen. When you see me in the video, I just arrived to the town, saw I was outnumbered by alot and moved away from the fight.

No no no no.

The point is that you are not a solo player. You may be ungrouped, but you zerg every bit as hard as a person who plays in a grouped raid. You are oblivious to that fact, and that is why it is a running joke. This is not some new occurance with your templar. This is something you have been oblivious to for a very long time.

I hate to burst your bubble, but you are probably a bigger zerger than all the VE players you despise. BTW I am healer is not a excuse. A healing build is not a solo build. Any half way competent play should recognize they should change there skills/gear in/outside a group. It is purely an excuse to try and excuse stacking with every EP pug in existence.

That is fine you are welcome to do that, but don't go and harass other people and call them zerglings. I have had a longstanding dislike of VE, but you and other people like @PrinceFabious and @FENGRUSH zerg every bit as hard as them. Then go and talk massive *** to them. I hate to burst your bubble, but stacking with 100 pugs is just as bad as being in a 24 man raid.

Says the one farming on the coattails of 2 24 man raids last night.

Can confirm Moji was zerg surfing yesterday on his NB. I specifically remember him pushing out and getting exposed by my flurry in front of the full raids. What a cute guy.

So you are trying to say I was zerg surfing, but you also say I was not with the zerg? That does not make sense. From my memory you where right in the middle of a large amount of EP. You broke off to put up a camp for your friend. I tried to stop you from getting a camp up, but you succeeded and 3 players spawned and DB'ed me. Sorry that I wasn't zerg surfing in the middle of the AD and 3 players can kill a NB with DB? The only other time I can recall encountering you was when I was playing Kaiz. We decided to go up to bleakers and on the way we found you and your friend in the lane. We started to fight, but bunch of AD showed up and we had the class to leave you alone. Sorry that not attacking you was zerg surfing?

Mustard wrote: »

manny254 wrote: »

FENGRUSH wrote: »

manny254 wrote: »

FENGRUSH wrote: »

Darnathian wrote: »

FENGRUSH wrote: »

manny254 wrote: »

frozywozy wrote: »

manny254 wrote: »

Frozn the solo player. 10/10

Dude, you gotta stop with this "Frozn the solo player" shaming. You've said that a good dozen of times in my whispers. Everytime you get killed after trying to farm EP pugs early morning on Arrius mine. I've tried to explain to you with different words but you simply don't seem to get it, or you just don't care and your main goal is to try to shame me or troll me.

Here it is once again. When I say that I run solo, it doesn't mean that I go out in the open, run away from any EP and try to create my own fights all by myself. It wouldn't work for multiple reasons.

First of all, this is well known that DC and AD have the most amount of experienced small scale players on the NA servers at least. I told you that several times. So being all by myself would be very hard to compete against those small squads of 2-6 min/max AD and DC players with 4-5k weapon dmg who can almost one shot you with the uppercut/dawnbreaker combo. I would get killed and would be riding back 12times a day.

Secondly, I am mainly a healer on my magplar. The only decent damage I have is Radiant destruction (which only works if I get my target bellow 50% health). The only players I kill in 1vX (it does happen everyday) are bad players who have no idea what they are doing. Against experienced players, the fight just last forever and no one die.

So when I say that I run solo, it doesn't mean that I'm all by myself trying to be a hero 1vXer. It means that I made the choice to not run with zerg guilds because I don't enjoy that playstyle at all but I still try to follow small/medium good groups when I see them and have fun with them. I also zerg surf when there is nothing else happening on the map like anybody else.

Now regarding this video, I was really surprised to see me in. I didn't even know that fight happened and I was also not aware that a duel was supposed to happen. When you see me in the video, I just arrived to the town, saw I was outnumbered by alot and moved away from the fight.

No no no no.

The point is that you are not a solo player. You may be ungrouped, but you zerg every bit as hard as a person who plays in a grouped raid. You are oblivious to that fact, and that is why it is a running joke. This is not some new occurance with your templar. This is something you have been oblivious to for a very long time.

I hate to burst your bubble, but you are probably a bigger zerger than all the VE players you despise. BTW I am healer is not a excuse. A healing build is not a solo build. Any half way competent play should recognize they should change there skills/gear in/outside a group. It is purely an excuse to try and excuse stacking with every EP pug in existence.

That is fine you are welcome to do that, but don't go and harass other people and call them zerglings. I have had a longstanding dislike of VE, but you and other people like @PrinceFabious and @FENGRUSH zerg every bit as hard as them. Then go and talk massive *** to them. I hate to burst your bubble, but stacking with 100 pugs is just as bad as being in a 24 man raid.

Pretty messed up Mojican. Thought you were better than that bro.

But true. lol

Still don't even know who you play outside of a dk that complained about stam sorc being overpowered after being beat 1v1 after they were literally at their absolute weakest a year ago. At least Mojican can play the game, he's just being spiteful.

Spiteful? I am being honest, and telling you what you don't want to hear. You are a zerger Fengrush. We can sit here and argue circles, but you are a zerger. I am not trying to talk down to you. I am telling the truth.

I tuned into your stream a few times, and every time you where stacking with hordes and hordes of DC. That is zerging and just as bad as being an 24 man ball group in my eyes. That is great you can do that, but I have witnessed you treat others very disrespectfully on the forums for doing the same things. Trust me I despise VE/large ball groups, but I can not ignore your hypocrisy. I am sure plenty of VE players can attest to my strong dislike of them.

If doing small man groups on the front lines is equivalent to forming a 24 man group - then youre completely delusional. I push front lines most of the time on stream. I often go off to back resources and bridges which means nothing other than farming AP. I could sit inside a tower with a small team and farm AP too (or truly challenge myself and do it with a dozen+ RAGE style), or sit on the bridge every night and do that as well, but I actually enjoy getting in the mix of large battles.

If youve ever taken time to watch the stream, youd see any group Im with will generally split off and do objectives away from the pack of DC (clearing camps, sweeping siege lines, flanking ball groups). Exceptions include when pushing the inner keep, but Im not sure what you want me to do. Want me to gank reinforcements on horseback that arent in group waiting for camps outside the keep with 4 people? I know theres some other highly experienced players that enjoy doing that. Im not really into it.

As far as being disrespectful, Im not even sure who or what you mean. Ive complained about ball groups for the same reason you did in this thread - when they form up and clash in mass, the server has a heart attack. But people will do it to win. Im not even disrespectful to VE - Ive responded a lot to a certain person from their guild who says I know nothing about the game or its meta because I dont mass in large groups. Ive stated VE has a large composition of great players, and then its also probably made up of players that cant stand well alone or in small group PvP. If you take that as an insult, Id say youre probably as sensitive as they are and open to prove otherwise.

You are being spiteful. Youre basically saying I ride in zergs for success, when you know full well I have small groups that stand perfectly fine on their own. They dont jump inside groups during large battles for heals, or barriers, or damage reduction. We fight and die isolated 95% of the time. Thats why these kind of posts really dont do you any good. Because I can acknowledge you are a good player who doesnt need to zerg surf, but wouldnt label you as one if youre in a group that has to push front lines (or hit back keeps that are empty to get isnide and farm with a scroll). I think youve participated in more groups of larger size than mine as well, just take a look at your sig and see guilds that have run me down 1v10+ countless times. But I wont slander someone without good reason as you have chosen to do. Sorry for however I offended you guy, I just tell it how it is and have plenty of witnesses to attest that youre way off base in your post.

Fengrush having a group of 4 among a sea of DC is just like being a 24 man group, and this is something you are very practiced in. You are completely delusional if you think that stacking with majority of the DC faction is conducive to small scale pvp. I would also like to provide a magical insight missed by a large amount of the community. If you are participating in a large battle don't blame everyone around you for the lag. You are a part of the issue, and every bit as guilty as the individual members of the 24 man raids you curse.

You seem to be missing the point of my message. It is not to treat you unfavorably, but to speak the honest truth. I am not attempting to speak down to you or your groups ability. I am not trying to shame you. I am pointing out your hypocrisies. You commonly try speak against zerging and ball groups. That is great you have every right to do that, but you do so as a hypocrite. To be absolutely clear I don't care that you Zerg, but I am not the type sit idle while I see you speaking against precisely what you do yourself.

Once again this is not some attempt to take a jab at you or speak badly of you. This is purely the truth. If you don't want me to think of you as a zerger then don't spend so much time with stacked DC. If you want to retaliate and try to call me the same thing then do so. I don't really care, but I will tell you what basic observation skills can provide me. Take all the Jabs you want, but you are against someone who might know the skill better than you.

Mojican,

Didn't you get banned with LowPolicy, Chief, and Slaygod?

I have never been banned or done anything to be banned. Additionally I firmly believe that anyone who used CE to any degree should be perma banned. The only bothersome thing to me is that the most blatant cheater is allowed to play the game, and that his vMA score was allowed to stay until the leader board reset of the patch.

Why can you fight completely off to the side in fights and not be zerging but if FENGRUSH fights off to the side he is zerg surfing inside ball groups?

Also - to your point of going and flagging back keeps - I do if I have a larger group (5+). 90% of the time I am in a 1-3man size group (that means solo or with 1 or 2 people). I am not going to flag Arrius when Im solo or with 1 other generally. I invite you to travel 10minutes out of your way to hop on siege 3 keeps deep though with 500 people watching you on stream. Youll never get ganked off the treb, promise. It will be a great experience for you.

manny254 wrote: »

Rohamad_Ali wrote: »

I'm on trueflame leveling Moj . If I was as good as you and geared I would be on Haderus liek a Boss . Wats ur excuse ? Y U Trueflamimg ?

Well you seemed to ignore what I was writing so I assumed you had to be doing something else. Good to know you don't deny re rolling to play on the winning faction.

Excuse? Do I need an excuse to play on the populated server? Sorry that I have a AR 50 character, but I should go somewhere else because a bunch of players re rolled?