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✭✭✭✭✭I do not understand all the SERIOUS Zerg complaints . In a war , if you split off to be a hero and get killed by a army , it was because of your lack of training in war . Army's kill small squads all the time . That's called an effective troop movement if you weed out small insurgent groups along the way . Do you people really sit up at night an think it's realistic to small man against army's in life or in games ? You have no comprehension of war time . It's delusional to blame a enemy for winning with numbers and effective troop movements .
If you're complaining that this creates lag , that's another matter and I would agree . But the truth is in war people don't split off from command and movement is planned more then anything . The better and faster you can move large units the better you command the battlefield . This would be a L2P situation if you truly think otherwise .5 -
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✭✭Rohamad_Ali wrote: »I do not understand all the SERIOUS Zerg complaints . In a war , if you split off to be a hero and get killed by a army , it was because of your lack of training in war . Army's kill small squads all the time . That's called an effective troop movement if you weed out small insurgent groups along the way . Do you people really sit up at night an think it's realistic to small man against army's in life or in games ? You have no comprehension of war time . It's delusional to blame a enemy for winning with numbers and effective troop movements .
If you're complaining that this creates lag , that's another matter and I would agree . But the truth is in war people don't split off from command and movement is planned more then anything . The better and faster you can move large units the better you command the battlefield . This would be a L2P situation if you truly think otherwise .
It's not war but a game which is supposed to be fun for all sides.DAGON - ALTADOON - CHIM - GHARTOK
The Covenant is broken. The Enemy has won...
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✭✭✭✭✭Rohamad_Ali wrote: »I do not understand all the SERIOUS Zerg complaints . In a war , if you split off to be a hero and get killed by a army , it was because of your lack of training in war . Army's kill small squads all the time . That's called an effective troop movement if you weed out small insurgent groups along the way . Do you people really sit up at night an think it's realistic to small man against army's in life or in games ? You have no comprehension of war time . It's delusional to blame a enemy for winning with numbers and effective troop movements .
If you're complaining that this creates lag , that's another matter and I would agree . But the truth is in war people don't split off from command and movement is planned more then anything . The better and faster you can move large units the better you command the battlefield . This would be a L2P situation if you truly think otherwise .
It's not war but a game which is supposed to be fun for all sides.
With one part of the playerbases definition of fun ruining it for everyone else (they know it, everyone else knows it, the devs know it).
The problem is the devs can´t, the other players can´t and they won´t fix because why would they - they´re having fun.
Forum rules don´t allow me to express the feelings i have towards those players.
Edit: Partially the devs don´t want to also. Capping grpsize to 4 and removing crown for lead aswell as chatbubbles in cyrodiil would eliminate ballgrps with the level of organisation we´re seeing now. They would simply vanish.Edited by Derra on August 8, 2016 8:59AM<Noricum>
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Roselle✭✭✭✭I like your laughs in this video. I haven't heard people sound like they're having fun in this game quite like that in some time.This one was rekt by Zenimax1 -
Maztiax✭✭✭izzakhalil wrote: »Damn what happened to this thread?!!
Basically this happened
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FIGeKCZzhNQ Edited by Maztiax on August 8, 2016 10:11AM1 -
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✭Darnathian wrote: »Frozn the solo player. 10/10
Dude, you gotta stop with this "Frozn the solo player" shaming. You've said that a good dozen of times in my whispers. Everytime you get killed after trying to farm EP pugs early morning on Arrius mine. I've tried to explain to you with different words but you simply don't seem to get it, or you just don't care and your main goal is to try to shame me or troll me.
Here it is once again. When I say that I run solo, it doesn't mean that I go out in the open, run away from any EP and try to create my own fights all by myself. It wouldn't work for multiple reasons.
First of all, this is well known that DC and AD have the most amount of experienced small scale players on the NA servers at least. I told you that several times. So being all by myself would be very hard to compete against those small squads of 2-6 min/max AD and DC players with 4-5k weapon dmg who can almost one shot you with the uppercut/dawnbreaker combo. I would get killed and would be riding back 12times a day.
Secondly, I am mainly a healer on my magplar. The only decent damage I have is Radiant destruction (which only works if I get my target bellow 50% health). The only players I kill in 1vX (it does happen everyday) are bad players who have no idea what they are doing. Against experienced players, the fight just last forever and no one die.
So when I say that I run solo, it doesn't mean that I'm all by myself trying to be a hero 1vXer. It means that I made the choice to not run with zerg guilds because I don't enjoy that playstyle at all but I still try to follow small/medium good groups when I see them and have fun with them. I also zerg surf when there is nothing else happening on the map like anybody else.
Now regarding this video, I was really surprised to see me in. I didn't even know that fight happened and I was also not aware that a duel was supposed to happen. When you see me in the video, I just arrived to the town, saw I was outnumbered by alot and moved away from the fight.
No no no no.
The point is that you are not a solo player. You may be ungrouped, but you zerg every bit as hard as a person who plays in a grouped raid. You are oblivious to that fact, and that is why it is a running joke. This is not some new occurance with your templar. This is something you have been oblivious to for a very long time.
I hate to burst your bubble, but you are probably a bigger zerger than all the VE players you despise. BTW I am healer is not a excuse. A healing build is not a solo build. Any half way competent play should recognize they should change there skills/gear in/outside a group. It is purely an excuse to try and excuse stacking with every EP pug in existence.
That is fine you are welcome to do that, but don't go and harass other people and call them zerglings. I have had a longstanding dislike of VE, but you and other people like @PrinceFabious and @FENGRUSH zerg every bit as hard as them. Then go and talk massive *** to them. I hate to burst your bubble, but stacking with 100 pugs is just as bad as being in a 24 man raid.
Pretty messed up Mojican. Thought you were better than that bro.
But true. lol
Still don't even know who you play outside of a dk that complained about stam sorc being overpowered after being beat 1v1 after they were literally at their absolute weakest a year ago. At least Mojican can play the game, he's just being spiteful.
Lol. Forgot about that. The only tells i remember sending were to stop trying to roleplay with me.
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But the only thing that matters is your groupsize. If you have 50 people around you but only 4 in group, you are smallscaling. If you have 14 in group but noone else around you are zerging.Darnathian wrote: »Frozn the solo player. 10/10
Dude, you gotta stop with this "Frozn the solo player" shaming. You've said that a good dozen of times in my whispers. Everytime you get killed after trying to farm EP pugs early morning on Arrius mine. I've tried to explain to you with different words but you simply don't seem to get it, or you just don't care and your main goal is to try to shame me or troll me.
Here it is once again. When I say that I run solo, it doesn't mean that I go out in the open, run away from any EP and try to create my own fights all by myself. It wouldn't work for multiple reasons.
First of all, this is well known that DC and AD have the most amount of experienced small scale players on the NA servers at least. I told you that several times. So being all by myself would be very hard to compete against those small squads of 2-6 min/max AD and DC players with 4-5k weapon dmg who can almost one shot you with the uppercut/dawnbreaker combo. I would get killed and would be riding back 12times a day.
Secondly, I am mainly a healer on my magplar. The only decent damage I have is Radiant destruction (which only works if I get my target bellow 50% health). The only players I kill in 1vX (it does happen everyday) are bad players who have no idea what they are doing. Against experienced players, the fight just last forever and no one die.
So when I say that I run solo, it doesn't mean that I'm all by myself trying to be a hero 1vXer. It means that I made the choice to not run with zerg guilds because I don't enjoy that playstyle at all but I still try to follow small/medium good groups when I see them and have fun with them. I also zerg surf when there is nothing else happening on the map like anybody else.
Now regarding this video, I was really surprised to see me in. I didn't even know that fight happened and I was also not aware that a duel was supposed to happen. When you see me in the video, I just arrived to the town, saw I was outnumbered by alot and moved away from the fight.
No no no no.
The point is that you are not a solo player. You may be ungrouped, but you zerg every bit as hard as a person who plays in a grouped raid. You are oblivious to that fact, and that is why it is a running joke. This is not some new occurance with your templar. This is something you have been oblivious to for a very long time.
I hate to burst your bubble, but you are probably a bigger zerger than all the VE players you despise. BTW I am healer is not a excuse. A healing build is not a solo build. Any half way competent play should recognize they should change there skills/gear in/outside a group. It is purely an excuse to try and excuse stacking with every EP pug in existence.
That is fine you are welcome to do that, but don't go and harass other people and call them zerglings. I have had a longstanding dislike of VE, but you and other people like @PrinceFabious and @FENGRUSH zerg every bit as hard as them. Then go and talk massive *** to them. I hate to burst your bubble, but stacking with 100 pugs is just as bad as being in a 24 man raid.
Pretty messed up Mojican. Thought you were better than that bro.
But true. lol
Still don't even know who you play outside of a dk that complained about stam sorc being overpowered after being beat 1v1 after they were literally at their absolute weakest a year ago. At least Mojican can play the game, he's just being spiteful.
Spiteful? I am being honest, and telling you what you don't want to hear. You are a zerger Fengrush. We can sit here and argue circles, but you are a zerger. I am not trying to talk down to you. I am telling the truth.
I tuned into your stream a few times, and every time you where stacking with hordes and hordes of DC. That is zerging and just as bad as being an 24 man ball group in my eyes. That is great you can do that, but I have witnessed you treat others very disrespectfully on the forums for doing the same things. Trust me I despise VE/large ball groups, but I can not ignore your hypocrisy. I am sure plenty of VE players can attest to my strong dislike of them.
The way smallscalers usually beat zerglings is by overwhelming them with a huge amount of players that are less organised.
I would add if he has 4 - 6 and he gangs up on solo players that is zerging. Same odds.
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✭Rohamad_Ali wrote: »I do not understand all the SERIOUS Zerg complaints . In a war , if you split off to be a hero and get killed by a army , it was because of your lack of training in war . Army's kill small squads all the time . That's called an effective troop movement if you weed out small insurgent groups along the way . Do you people really sit up at night an think it's realistic to small man against army's in life or in games ? You have no comprehension of war time . It's delusional to blame a enemy for winning with numbers and effective troop movements .
If you're complaining that this creates lag , that's another matter and I would agree . But the truth is in war people don't split off from command and movement is planned more then anything . The better and faster you can move large units the better you command the battlefield . This would be a L2P situation if you truly think otherwise .
Its hysterical. They joined a large scale pvp game. Complain non stop and try to get the developers to cater to thier style Then talk down to everyone who fights in raids for objectives. Saying they have no skill/honor.
The only thing they have accomplished is help Zos destroy what made this game great every patch trying to accomodate everyone.
Perfect example is BG. Instead of usingthose resources to fix what is broken, they are trying to get them to add that feature.7 -
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✭✭Darnathian wrote: »Rohamad_Ali wrote: »I do not understand all the SERIOUS Zerg complaints . In a war , if you split off to be a hero and get killed by a army , it was because of your lack of training in war . Army's kill small squads all the time . That's called an effective troop movement if you weed out small insurgent groups along the way . Do you people really sit up at night an think it's realistic to small man against army's in life or in games ? You have no comprehension of war time . It's delusional to blame a enemy for winning with numbers and effective troop movements .
If you're complaining that this creates lag , that's another matter and I would agree . But the truth is in war people don't split off from command and movement is planned more then anything . The better and faster you can move large units the better you command the battlefield . This would be a L2P situation if you truly think otherwise .
Its hysterical. They joined a large scale pvp game. Complain non stop and try to get the developers to cater to thier style Then talk down to everyone who fights in raids for objectives. Saying they have no skill/honor.
The only thing they have accomplished is help Zos destroy what made this game great every patch trying to accomodate everyone.
Perfect example is BG. Instead of usingthose resources to fix what is broken, they are trying to get them to add that feature.
And here we see the difference between those players who respect other players and their playstyles so long as they do the same and those who feel entitled to have their playstyle be the only one the devs may invest resources into, who don't care about the fun of other people and don't even realize it themselves.DAGON - ALTADOON - CHIM - GHARTOK
The Covenant is broken. The Enemy has won...
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✭✭Darnathian wrote: »Frozn the solo player. 10/10
Dude, you gotta stop with this "Frozn the solo player" shaming. You've said that a good dozen of times in my whispers. Everytime you get killed after trying to farm EP pugs early morning on Arrius mine. I've tried to explain to you with different words but you simply don't seem to get it, or you just don't care and your main goal is to try to shame me or troll me.
Here it is once again. When I say that I run solo, it doesn't mean that I go out in the open, run away from any EP and try to create my own fights all by myself. It wouldn't work for multiple reasons.
First of all, this is well known that DC and AD have the most amount of experienced small scale players on the NA servers at least. I told you that several times. So being all by myself would be very hard to compete against those small squads of 2-6 min/max AD and DC players with 4-5k weapon dmg who can almost one shot you with the uppercut/dawnbreaker combo. I would get killed and would be riding back 12times a day.
Secondly, I am mainly a healer on my magplar. The only decent damage I have is Radiant destruction (which only works if I get my target bellow 50% health). The only players I kill in 1vX (it does happen everyday) are bad players who have no idea what they are doing. Against experienced players, the fight just last forever and no one die.
So when I say that I run solo, it doesn't mean that I'm all by myself trying to be a hero 1vXer. It means that I made the choice to not run with zerg guilds because I don't enjoy that playstyle at all but I still try to follow small/medium good groups when I see them and have fun with them. I also zerg surf when there is nothing else happening on the map like anybody else.
Now regarding this video, I was really surprised to see me in. I didn't even know that fight happened and I was also not aware that a duel was supposed to happen. When you see me in the video, I just arrived to the town, saw I was outnumbered by alot and moved away from the fight.
No no no no.
The point is that you are not a solo player. You may be ungrouped, but you zerg every bit as hard as a person who plays in a grouped raid. You are oblivious to that fact, and that is why it is a running joke. This is not some new occurance with your templar. This is something you have been oblivious to for a very long time.
I hate to burst your bubble, but you are probably a bigger zerger than all the VE players you despise. BTW I am healer is not a excuse. A healing build is not a solo build. Any half way competent play should recognize they should change there skills/gear in/outside a group. It is purely an excuse to try and excuse stacking with every EP pug in existence.
That is fine you are welcome to do that, but don't go and harass other people and call them zerglings. I have had a longstanding dislike of VE, but you and other people like @PrinceFabious and @FENGRUSH zerg every bit as hard as them. Then go and talk massive *** to them. I hate to burst your bubble, but stacking with 100 pugs is just as bad as being in a 24 man raid.
Pretty messed up Mojican. Thought you were better than that bro.
But true. lol
Still don't even know who you play outside of a dk that complained about stam sorc being overpowered after being beat 1v1 after they were literally at their absolute weakest a year ago. At least Mojican can play the game, he's just being spiteful.
Spiteful? I am being honest, and telling you what you don't want to hear. You are a zerger Fengrush. We can sit here and argue circles, but you are a zerger. I am not trying to talk down to you. I am telling the truth.
I tuned into your stream a few times, and every time you where stacking with hordes and hordes of DC. That is zerging and just as bad as being an 24 man ball group in my eyes. That is great you can do that, but I have witnessed you treat others very disrespectfully on the forums for doing the same things. Trust me I despise VE/large ball groups, but I can not ignore your hypocrisy. I am sure plenty of VE players can attest to my strong dislike of them.
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When a 4 man kills a solo player = "Mad skills small man yo"Invictus
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Deimos - Templar / Grand Warlord
Sias - Sorcerer / PrefectZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »Short answer is DKs likely won't be seeing a ton of changes before we go live; this class is still quite powerful (as it should be being a tank), even after some of the adjustments we've made to other classes and abilities.
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✭✭✭✭✭Rohamad_Ali wrote: »I do not understand all the SERIOUS Zerg complaints . In a war , if you split off to be a hero and get killed by a army , it was because of your lack of training in war . Army's kill small squads all the time . That's called an effective troop movement if you weed out small insurgent groups along the way . Do you people really sit up at night an think it's realistic to small man against army's in life or in games ? You have no comprehension of war time . It's delusional to blame a enemy for winning with numbers and effective troop movements .
If you're complaining that this creates lag , that's another matter and I would agree . But the truth is in war people don't split off from command and movement is planned more then anything . The better and faster you can move large units the better you command the battlefield . This would be a L2P situation if you truly think otherwise .
It's not war but a game which is supposed to be fun for all sides.
If you like to play smal that's ok , I do too sometimes . Look at it anyway you like but just like a chess board some moves are smart and some not so smart . You don't play chess with only Queens and Bishops right ? So I don't blame players that move effective if I lose or get ran over . I yell at lag not people .
I'm pretty sure the Devs call Cyrodiil a war . You can call a flower a steak but it won't taste like one .3 -
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✭✭Rohamad_Ali wrote: »Rohamad_Ali wrote: »I do not understand all the SERIOUS Zerg complaints . In a war , if you split off to be a hero and get killed by a army , it was because of your lack of training in war . Army's kill small squads all the time . That's called an effective troop movement if you weed out small insurgent groups along the way . Do you people really sit up at night an think it's realistic to small man against army's in life or in games ? You have no comprehension of war time . It's delusional to blame a enemy for winning with numbers and effective troop movements .
If you're complaining that this creates lag , that's another matter and I would agree . But the truth is in war people don't split off from command and movement is planned more then anything . The better and faster you can move large units the better you command the battlefield . This would be a L2P situation if you truly think otherwise .
It's not war but a game which is supposed to be fun for all sides.
If you like to play smal that's ok , I do too sometimes . Look at it anyway you like but just like a chess board some moves are smart and some not so smart . You don't play chess with only Queens and Bishops right ? So I don't blame players that move effective if I lose or get ran over . I yell at lag not people .
I'm pretty sure the Devs call Cyrodiil a war . You can call a flower a steak but it won't taste like one .
It's not an issue about how you name things. ESO is a game, it's just not a good idea to design things based on real war (which is a terrible thing and not exactly fun) at the expense of gameplay.
I for one would like to participate in large scale PvP with a small group, or a larger one if their gameplay was more interesting. I do not want to play as a scout, avoiding fights if possible, as would be the case if ESO was more like an actual "war".
And of enemy players I expect the same respect I give them. That's no different than in any other game I've ever played.DAGON - ALTADOON - CHIM - GHARTOK
The Covenant is broken. The Enemy has won...
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✭✭✭✭✭Rohamad_Ali wrote: »Rohamad_Ali wrote: »I do not understand all the SERIOUS Zerg complaints . In a war , if you split off to be a hero and get killed by a army , it was because of your lack of training in war . Army's kill small squads all the time . That's called an effective troop movement if you weed out small insurgent groups along the way . Do you people really sit up at night an think it's realistic to small man against army's in life or in games ? You have no comprehension of war time . It's delusional to blame a enemy for winning with numbers and effective troop movements .
If you're complaining that this creates lag , that's another matter and I would agree . But the truth is in war people don't split off from command and movement is planned more then anything . The better and faster you can move large units the better you command the battlefield . This would be a L2P situation if you truly think otherwise .
It's not war but a game which is supposed to be fun for all sides.
If you like to play smal that's ok , I do too sometimes . Look at it anyway you like but just like a chess board some moves are smart and some not so smart . You don't play chess with only Queens and Bishops right ? So I don't blame players that move effective if I lose or get ran over . I yell at lag not people .
I'm pretty sure the Devs call Cyrodiil a war . You can call a flower a steak but it won't taste like one .
It's not an issue about how you name things. ESO is a game, it's just not a good idea to design things based on real war (which is a terrible thing and not exactly fun) at the expense of gameplay.
I for one would like to participate in large scale PvP with a small group, or a larger one if their gameplay was more interesting. I do not want to play as a scout, avoiding fights if possible, as would be the case if ESO was more like an actual "war".
And of enemy players I expect the same respect I give them. That's no different than in any other game I've ever played.
People should always treat others fairly or just ignore them if they can't . Arenas will eventually make their way to the game for people that don't like Cyrodiil war PvP . Yes real war is not fun but good times are made in strange places . Some people miss combat and some wish to simulate its experience . That's why we have these games . I believe Paul Sage wanted people in Cyrodiil to experience epic war an despite its problems , did a good job on that part .2 -
Vexzarium✭✭✭I actually enjoyed watching Fengrush's group the other day at Arrius LM. A large DC force was there and Deltia was smoothly leading his guys to the flanks of the EP that were in a stalemate with the DC force. Honestly, without them doing so, the mass of EP would have rolled the DC force much faster. I actually found it refreshing to see an intimidating small man group making the situation so much more difficult with awesome tactics. Did I consider them part of the Zerg? No. Rather a very skilled detachment that was much more fun to fight than the mass DC force. Well played.
As for Frozn, I respect the dude. Regardless of what other EP friends of mine think of him. Maybe I just don't know enough about him due to my recent absence from the game. But I feel the dudes pain. I'm in a similar boat. I surf groups when I see them engaged in an enticing battle. The biggest group I've been in lately is 2. My GF and I. Both of us learning a new class. It's rough as hell not getting the benefits of being in the group you're surfing. Just predicting movements can be a challenge.
However, not everyone has the opportunity to group up with decent small man groups. Especially not in EP. And even more so if those bridges have been burned and you're no longer welcomed by those decent groups due to prior in-activities or something of that nature. So, we're "bad players" because we stick to the edges of good small man groups and assist them in any way we can? We're "bad players" for not having the opportunity to instead be in the group with them? Look, I understand the whole anti-zerg complaints. But I would not suggest Frozn, myself, or any other solo player that surfs are in any way "zergers". We're simply playing the game, as mostly solo players, to the best of our abilities while trying to maintain some sort of etiquette at the same time. Am I suggesting surfing Pact is something I'd be proud to do? No. Am I suggesting that running around and trying to 1vX 40 AD or DC and getting ROFLstomped over and over again instead of surfing small man groups just to try and prove how super leet I am is stupid as hell? Yes.Edited by Vexzarium on August 8, 2016 4:05PMPC-NA
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Petty Dorks . So mad much salt , get rekt lol
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So this is from my limited PVP this weekend - this is generally what were doing and how we play. Are we zerg surfing? Legitimate question. Were fighting with DC (theyre managing siege, they have a group that pushes out). But we just fight on our own. Because the way Mojican is describing things leads me to believe Im going to wait for a 24 man to push, or push with them, and operate purely based on what they do. What in reality, we just do our thing and will make decisions based on whats going on in the fight. When the wall is down on offense, we will push in (usually before the larger groups) and try to pivot opposite of them to stress whoever is inside and break the fight up and down camps. If this is zerg surfing, I guess we will agree to disagree.
I enjoy fighting over keeps that matter, and taking part in the big battles. People saying I hate ball groups seem to misunderstand the argument that Ive made over patches in the past. That groups could function in ways they cant now (moving with 24 man group popping barriers that hit everyone and rapids keeping healers untouched). Paired with AOE caps, there was literally no room for small groups to engage or take place in these fights. These things have changed a lot(Stam changes for my class for one, det, VC, armor/damage numbers). They arent perfect, but theyre much better than where they have been at. Do I blame the groups for playing to mechanics that make sense for mass PVP? No. I love mass PvP, and I always state I prefer it over BG type environments. I like the randomness of PvP in open world - I also would enjoy some PvP that is limited to a certain set of numbers too at times. But that and dueling are not my go-to style of PvP. So to people saying Im trying to change PvP to cater to that, are really incorrect. I just enjoyed the game without AOE caps and dynamic ult gen back in the day. It allowed smaller groups that functioned efficiently and effectively with teamwork to play to that very advantage. Im always open to different opinions, and have had my opinion changed on subjects by other people posing different points too. I try to stay unbiased, and give my honest opinion, which is often brash, and earns a lot of hate from those that may be applicable to the subject.
You cant please everyone, something Ive come to learn in streaming. Plenty of people take pop shots over snapshots of gameplay or a quote in a certain argument over time. Its real easy for a lot of you to throw punches when everything I do and say gets streamed in ESO. Lastly, to Mojican - in clips like the above, I dont believe 6 groups of 4 operating in a keep like we are there will cause as much lag as 1 group of 24 flooding AOEs on each other. If you disagree on this as well, we agree to disagree again I guess. To say a group like that is responsible for lagging the server as much as a group of 24 people stacking, I dont agree with it. Reality is, groups of 24 arent killing the server like they used to. Many patches ago, a group of 24 could be running through the keep flooding purges out and it would literally spike the servers lag right away. But that isnt happening as brutally as it once did - things are changing every patch. Performance is at the best its been in awhile right now for example.
Biggest issue with lag is faction stacking, and it happens a lot on TF and any server where a dethrone is happening. This is really just a behavioral thing and the way emperor works though, so thats really not changing. If I go to these battles and become a 'zerg surfer' - I legitimately want to know what you want me to do during these fights. Because other than sit outside the keep and kill people off mounts, Im not really sure what is available. But all the meanwhile - we are not 'stacking inside ball groups'. This is simply just slander, and yea - I did expect more from opponents I respect and consider equals on the battlefield.12 -
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Ya man , that video is the exact definition most have given me as to what "Zerg surfing" is . Being in a small man group following a larger faction group to take objectives . Even if splitting off to other side of keep to stop reinforcements or a resource there for a camp , still apart of "zergers" .
In short , you never win with some people . Just stop trying to please everyone is my suggestion because is futile . Someone will say you should of been on the opposite side of the map taking resources to show your disdain for large groups . Who knows , you cannot win .
If your group assisted other groups to take an objective successfully , Sun Tsu would say you were wise on the battlefield . No need to change effective strategy only improve upon them .Edited by Rohamad_Ali on August 8, 2016 4:17PM13 -
moiraleafcull✭✭✭Frozn the solo player. 10/10
Dude, you gotta stop with this "Frozn the solo player" shaming. You've said that a good dozen of times in my whispers. Everytime you get killed after trying to farm EP pugs early morning on Arrius mine. I've tried to explain to you with different words but you simply don't seem to get it, or you just don't care and your main goal is to try to shame me or troll me.
Here it is once again. When I say that I run solo, it doesn't mean that I go out in the open, run away from any EP and try to create my own fights all by myself. It wouldn't work for multiple reasons.
First of all, this is well known that DC and AD have the most amount of experienced small scale players on the NA servers at least. I told you that several times. So being all by myself would be very hard to compete against those small squads of 2-6 min/max AD and DC players with 4-5k weapon dmg who can almost one shot you with the uppercut/dawnbreaker combo. I would get killed and would be riding back 12times a day.
Secondly, I am mainly a healer on my magplar. The only decent damage I have is Radiant destruction (which only works if I get my target bellow 50% health). The only players I kill in 1vX (it does happen everyday) are bad players who have no idea what they are doing. Against experienced players, the fight just last forever and no one die.
So when I say that I run solo, it doesn't mean that I'm all by myself trying to be a hero 1vXer. It means that I made the choice to not run with zerg guilds because I don't enjoy that playstyle at all but I still try to follow small/medium good groups when I see them and have fun with them. I also zerg surf when there is nothing else happening on the map like anybody else.
Now regarding this video, I was really surprised to see me in. I didn't even know that fight happened and I was also not aware that a duel was supposed to happen. When you see me in the video, I just arrived to the town, saw I was outnumbered by alot and moved away from the fight.
No no no no.
The point is that you are not a solo player. You may be ungrouped, but you zerg every bit as hard as a person who plays in a grouped raid. You are oblivious to that fact, and that is why it is a running joke. This is not some new occurance with your templar. This is something you have been oblivious to for a very long time.
I hate to burst your bubble, but you are probably a bigger zerger than all the VE players you despise. BTW I am healer is not a excuse. A healing build is not a solo build. Any half way competent play should recognize they should change there skills/gear in/outside a group. It is purely an excuse to try and excuse stacking with every EP pug in existence.
That is fine you are welcome to do that, but don't go and harass other people and call them zerglings. I have had a longstanding dislike of VE, but you and other people like @PrinceFabious and @FENGRUSH zerg every bit as hard as them. Then go and talk massive *** to them. I hate to burst your bubble, but stacking with 100 pugs is just as bad as being in a 24 man raid.
Says the one farming on the coattails of 2 24 man raids last night.Edited by moiraleafcull on August 8, 2016 4:35PM@moiraleafcull == 551+ Champion
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✭✭✭✭✭moiraleafcull wrote: »Frozn the solo player. 10/10
Dude, you gotta stop with this "Frozn the solo player" shaming. You've said that a good dozen of times in my whispers. Everytime you get killed after trying to farm EP pugs early morning on Arrius mine. I've tried to explain to you with different words but you simply don't seem to get it, or you just don't care and your main goal is to try to shame me or troll me.
Here it is once again. When I say that I run solo, it doesn't mean that I go out in the open, run away from any EP and try to create my own fights all by myself. It wouldn't work for multiple reasons.
First of all, this is well known that DC and AD have the most amount of experienced small scale players on the NA servers at least. I told you that several times. So being all by myself would be very hard to compete against those small squads of 2-6 min/max AD and DC players with 4-5k weapon dmg who can almost one shot you with the uppercut/dawnbreaker combo. I would get killed and would be riding back 12times a day.
Secondly, I am mainly a healer on my magplar. The only decent damage I have is Radiant destruction (which only works if I get my target bellow 50% health). The only players I kill in 1vX (it does happen everyday) are bad players who have no idea what they are doing. Against experienced players, the fight just last forever and no one die.
So when I say that I run solo, it doesn't mean that I'm all by myself trying to be a hero 1vXer. It means that I made the choice to not run with zerg guilds because I don't enjoy that playstyle at all but I still try to follow small/medium good groups when I see them and have fun with them. I also zerg surf when there is nothing else happening on the map like anybody else.
Now regarding this video, I was really surprised to see me in. I didn't even know that fight happened and I was also not aware that a duel was supposed to happen. When you see me in the video, I just arrived to the town, saw I was outnumbered by alot and moved away from the fight.
No no no no.
The point is that you are not a solo player. You may be ungrouped, but you zerg every bit as hard as a person who plays in a grouped raid. You are oblivious to that fact, and that is why it is a running joke. This is not some new occurance with your templar. This is something you have been oblivious to for a very long time.
I hate to burst your bubble, but you are probably a bigger zerger than all the VE players you despise. BTW I am healer is not a excuse. A healing build is not a solo build. Any half way competent play should recognize they should change there skills/gear in/outside a group. It is purely an excuse to try and excuse stacking with every EP pug in existence.
That is fine you are welcome to do that, but don't go and harass other people and call them zerglings. I have had a longstanding dislike of VE, but you and other people like @PrinceFabious and @FENGRUSH zerg every bit as hard as them. Then go and talk massive *** to them. I hate to burst your bubble, but stacking with 100 pugs is just as bad as being in a 24 man raid.
Says the one farming on the coattails of AD at Nikel last night...
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I'm done being moto todayEdited by caeliusstarbreaker on August 8, 2016 4:44PMRhage Lionpride DC Stamina Templar
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I only t-bag people who have no honor or who disrespect me. I didn't t-bag your 8men group, I t-bagged one person in particular who always rage whisper me and disrespect me ingame for no reasons. I was not the only one to t-bag that person btw, I think we were 6 on top of him. Funny that you didn't bring those names in here aswell to try to shame them.
I also t-bag people who try to zerg me down but by some miracle the fight turns around and I manage to kill them. Those people deserve no respect either.
Something I never do : t-bagging someone after killing him while he was outnumbered. That is pure bad manners and simply childish (unless the person is a friend).
People do it to me constantly though. They will zerg me down outnumbered 15 to 1 and they will do all kind of emotes on me afterward. That is simply disgusting to see. It's like hey, it only took 15 of us to kill you and you were really bad btw so I'm going to t-bag you to make you realize that you should have survived against 15 of us. Make sense.
Btw don't try to bring numbers anymore in here. 35-40 EP against our 8men. Ok. I remember the last time Fantasia ran a group in TF. I'm not sure if it was yesterday or the day before. But I do remember a huge train of 20-30 ADs rolling between Aleswell and Bleakers farming a few EPs at a time.
If you don't wanna get stomped by 30-40players, stop trying to farm players on a ressource or running around openfield. That will always bring the zerg.
What an organized group like yours should be doing is capturing outposts or keeps and focus on map control. Running around openfield exposing yourself or trying to tower farm will always bring more numbers to deal with you.
Especially against EP who probably has the largest zerg guild nowadays.
Last thing, I like that sentence at the end of your post "He's never been respectful to anyone else". Excuse me but who are you again? Were you born in my childhood? Did we go to school together? Do you work at my place? Have we ever played this game together? Have we talked on teamspeak? If the answer is no to all of those questions, then I believe this is just another typical speculation to try to shame me by someone who has no idea what he's talking about.
WOw that was a lot to read lol. Overwhelming me with a superior number of words instead of a quality read-- jk jk.
I was speaking of Venatus, not Fantasia, but you've been known to be very rude towards them as well. Fantasia does run big raids often (12-24) but they don't chase after small groups or solo players, and I'm 100% positive Joshua and co has never wronged you lol. He's alarmingly pure-hearted and gentle. I don't run with them while they're zergscale-mode and try to avoid zergscale in general now because my laptop just can't handle it anymore. But people in general probably "disrespect" you because you've been known to do it yourself first, as you admitted.
The argument isn't about which faction zergs more or who has the least respectable zerg.
It's about the fact that you will xv1 the crap out of people and then run away when things suddenly get hard, as evidenced in the vid. And get upset about zerging/xv1ing while partcipating yourself and then qqing on the forums. For some reason you sort of skip over this point and go on and on about something else like "ok but that guy deserved it!" or "do you know me irl tho?" Like.....ok.I only t-bag people who have no honor or who disrespect me. I didn't t-bag your 8men group, I t-bagged one person in particular who always rage whisper me and disrespect me ingame for no reasons. I was not the only one to t-bag that person btw, I think we were 6 on top of him. Funny that you didn't bring those names in here aswell to try to shame them.
I also t-bag people who try to zerg me down but by some miracle the fight turns around and I manage to kill them. Those people deserve no respect either.
Any other guy could have said those words about you lol. Thanks for your hypocrisy.Edited by dashima on August 8, 2016 5:35PMVenatus | Hagnado
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PrinceFabious✭✭✭✭✭I just dont understanmoiraleafcull wrote: »Frozn the solo player. 10/10
Dude, you gotta stop with this "Frozn the solo player" shaming. You've said that a good dozen of times in my whispers. Everytime you get killed after trying to farm EP pugs early morning on Arrius mine. I've tried to explain to you with different words but you simply don't seem to get it, or you just don't care and your main goal is to try to shame me or troll me.
Here it is once again. When I say that I run solo, it doesn't mean that I go out in the open, run away from any EP and try to create my own fights all by myself. It wouldn't work for multiple reasons.
First of all, this is well known that DC and AD have the most amount of experienced small scale players on the NA servers at least. I told you that several times. So being all by myself would be very hard to compete against those small squads of 2-6 min/max AD and DC players with 4-5k weapon dmg who can almost one shot you with the uppercut/dawnbreaker combo. I would get killed and would be riding back 12times a day.
Secondly, I am mainly a healer on my magplar. The only decent damage I have is Radiant destruction (which only works if I get my target bellow 50% health). The only players I kill in 1vX (it does happen everyday) are bad players who have no idea what they are doing. Against experienced players, the fight just last forever and no one die.
So when I say that I run solo, it doesn't mean that I'm all by myself trying to be a hero 1vXer. It means that I made the choice to not run with zerg guilds because I don't enjoy that playstyle at all but I still try to follow small/medium good groups when I see them and have fun with them. I also zerg surf when there is nothing else happening on the map like anybody else.
Now regarding this video, I was really surprised to see me in. I didn't even know that fight happened and I was also not aware that a duel was supposed to happen. When you see me in the video, I just arrived to the town, saw I was outnumbered by alot and moved away from the fight.
No no no no.
The point is that you are not a solo player. You may be ungrouped, but you zerg every bit as hard as a person who plays in a grouped raid. You are oblivious to that fact, and that is why it is a running joke. This is not some new occurance with your templar. This is something you have been oblivious to for a very long time.
I hate to burst your bubble, but you are probably a bigger zerger than all the VE players you despise. BTW I am healer is not a excuse. A healing build is not a solo build. Any half way competent play should recognize they should change there skills/gear in/outside a group. It is purely an excuse to try and excuse stacking with every EP pug in existence.
That is fine you are welcome to do that, but don't go and harass other people and call them zerglings. I have had a longstanding dislike of VE, but you and other people like @PrinceFabious and @FENGRUSH zerg every bit as hard as them. Then go and talk massive *** to them. I hate to burst your bubble, but stacking with 100 pugs is just as bad as being in a 24 man raid.
Says the one farming on the coattails of 2 24 man raids last night.
Can confirm Moji was zerg surfing yesterday on his NB. I specifically remember him pushing out and getting exposed by my flurry in front of the full raids. What a cute guy.4 -
Maztiax✭✭✭PrinceFabious wrote: »I just dont understanmoiraleafcull wrote: »Frozn the solo player. 10/10
Dude, you gotta stop with this "Frozn the solo player" shaming. You've said that a good dozen of times in my whispers. Everytime you get killed after trying to farm EP pugs early morning on Arrius mine. I've tried to explain to you with different words but you simply don't seem to get it, or you just don't care and your main goal is to try to shame me or troll me.
Here it is once again. When I say that I run solo, it doesn't mean that I go out in the open, run away from any EP and try to create my own fights all by myself. It wouldn't work for multiple reasons.
First of all, this is well known that DC and AD have the most amount of experienced small scale players on the NA servers at least. I told you that several times. So being all by myself would be very hard to compete against those small squads of 2-6 min/max AD and DC players with 4-5k weapon dmg who can almost one shot you with the uppercut/dawnbreaker combo. I would get killed and would be riding back 12times a day.
Secondly, I am mainly a healer on my magplar. The only decent damage I have is Radiant destruction (which only works if I get my target bellow 50% health). The only players I kill in 1vX (it does happen everyday) are bad players who have no idea what they are doing. Against experienced players, the fight just last forever and no one die.
So when I say that I run solo, it doesn't mean that I'm all by myself trying to be a hero 1vXer. It means that I made the choice to not run with zerg guilds because I don't enjoy that playstyle at all but I still try to follow small/medium good groups when I see them and have fun with them. I also zerg surf when there is nothing else happening on the map like anybody else.
Now regarding this video, I was really surprised to see me in. I didn't even know that fight happened and I was also not aware that a duel was supposed to happen. When you see me in the video, I just arrived to the town, saw I was outnumbered by alot and moved away from the fight.
No no no no.
The point is that you are not a solo player. You may be ungrouped, but you zerg every bit as hard as a person who plays in a grouped raid. You are oblivious to that fact, and that is why it is a running joke. This is not some new occurance with your templar. This is something you have been oblivious to for a very long time.
I hate to burst your bubble, but you are probably a bigger zerger than all the VE players you despise. BTW I am healer is not a excuse. A healing build is not a solo build. Any half way competent play should recognize they should change there skills/gear in/outside a group. It is purely an excuse to try and excuse stacking with every EP pug in existence.
That is fine you are welcome to do that, but don't go and harass other people and call them zerglings. I have had a longstanding dislike of VE, but you and other people like @PrinceFabious and @FENGRUSH zerg every bit as hard as them. Then go and talk massive *** to them. I hate to burst your bubble, but stacking with 100 pugs is just as bad as being in a 24 man raid.
Says the one farming on the coattails of 2 24 man raids last night.
Can confirm Moji was zerg surfing yesterday on his NB. I specifically remember him pushing out and getting exposed by my flurry in front of the full raids. What a cute guy.
What the HELL did you just call Mojican? I'll have you know he graduated at the top of his class in the US navy seals, and he is trained in gorilla warfare. He can be anywhere, anytime, and he can kill you in over 700 ways, and that's just with his bear hands. Think twice before you call him "cute" again, kiddo.0 -
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✭✭PrinceFabious wrote: »I just dont understanmoiraleafcull wrote: »Frozn the solo player. 10/10
Dude, you gotta stop with this "Frozn the solo player" shaming. You've said that a good dozen of times in my whispers. Everytime you get killed after trying to farm EP pugs early morning on Arrius mine. I've tried to explain to you with different words but you simply don't seem to get it, or you just don't care and your main goal is to try to shame me or troll me.
Here it is once again. When I say that I run solo, it doesn't mean that I go out in the open, run away from any EP and try to create my own fights all by myself. It wouldn't work for multiple reasons.
First of all, this is well known that DC and AD have the most amount of experienced small scale players on the NA servers at least. I told you that several times. So being all by myself would be very hard to compete against those small squads of 2-6 min/max AD and DC players with 4-5k weapon dmg who can almost one shot you with the uppercut/dawnbreaker combo. I would get killed and would be riding back 12times a day.
Secondly, I am mainly a healer on my magplar. The only decent damage I have is Radiant destruction (which only works if I get my target bellow 50% health). The only players I kill in 1vX (it does happen everyday) are bad players who have no idea what they are doing. Against experienced players, the fight just last forever and no one die.
So when I say that I run solo, it doesn't mean that I'm all by myself trying to be a hero 1vXer. It means that I made the choice to not run with zerg guilds because I don't enjoy that playstyle at all but I still try to follow small/medium good groups when I see them and have fun with them. I also zerg surf when there is nothing else happening on the map like anybody else.
Now regarding this video, I was really surprised to see me in. I didn't even know that fight happened and I was also not aware that a duel was supposed to happen. When you see me in the video, I just arrived to the town, saw I was outnumbered by alot and moved away from the fight.
No no no no.
The point is that you are not a solo player. You may be ungrouped, but you zerg every bit as hard as a person who plays in a grouped raid. You are oblivious to that fact, and that is why it is a running joke. This is not some new occurance with your templar. This is something you have been oblivious to for a very long time.
I hate to burst your bubble, but you are probably a bigger zerger than all the VE players you despise. BTW I am healer is not a excuse. A healing build is not a solo build. Any half way competent play should recognize they should change there skills/gear in/outside a group. It is purely an excuse to try and excuse stacking with every EP pug in existence.
That is fine you are welcome to do that, but don't go and harass other people and call them zerglings. I have had a longstanding dislike of VE, but you and other people like @PrinceFabious and @FENGRUSH zerg every bit as hard as them. Then go and talk massive *** to them. I hate to burst your bubble, but stacking with 100 pugs is just as bad as being in a 24 man raid.
Says the one farming on the coattails of 2 24 man raids last night.
Can confirm Moji was zerg surfing yesterday on his NB. I specifically remember him pushing out and getting exposed by my flurry in front of the full raids. What a cute guy.
What the HELL did you just call Mojican? I'll have you know he graduated at the top of his class in the US navy seals, and he is trained in gorilla warfare. He can be anywhere, anytime, and he can kill you in over 700 ways, and that's just with his bear hands. Think twice before you call him "cute" again, kiddo.
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PrinceFabious✭✭✭✭✭PrinceFabious wrote: »I just dont understanmoiraleafcull wrote: »Frozn the solo player. 10/10
Dude, you gotta stop with this "Frozn the solo player" shaming. You've said that a good dozen of times in my whispers. Everytime you get killed after trying to farm EP pugs early morning on Arrius mine. I've tried to explain to you with different words but you simply don't seem to get it, or you just don't care and your main goal is to try to shame me or troll me.
Here it is once again. When I say that I run solo, it doesn't mean that I go out in the open, run away from any EP and try to create my own fights all by myself. It wouldn't work for multiple reasons.
First of all, this is well known that DC and AD have the most amount of experienced small scale players on the NA servers at least. I told you that several times. So being all by myself would be very hard to compete against those small squads of 2-6 min/max AD and DC players with 4-5k weapon dmg who can almost one shot you with the uppercut/dawnbreaker combo. I would get killed and would be riding back 12times a day.
Secondly, I am mainly a healer on my magplar. The only decent damage I have is Radiant destruction (which only works if I get my target bellow 50% health). The only players I kill in 1vX (it does happen everyday) are bad players who have no idea what they are doing. Against experienced players, the fight just last forever and no one die.
So when I say that I run solo, it doesn't mean that I'm all by myself trying to be a hero 1vXer. It means that I made the choice to not run with zerg guilds because I don't enjoy that playstyle at all but I still try to follow small/medium good groups when I see them and have fun with them. I also zerg surf when there is nothing else happening on the map like anybody else.
Now regarding this video, I was really surprised to see me in. I didn't even know that fight happened and I was also not aware that a duel was supposed to happen. When you see me in the video, I just arrived to the town, saw I was outnumbered by alot and moved away from the fight.
No no no no.
The point is that you are not a solo player. You may be ungrouped, but you zerg every bit as hard as a person who plays in a grouped raid. You are oblivious to that fact, and that is why it is a running joke. This is not some new occurance with your templar. This is something you have been oblivious to for a very long time.
I hate to burst your bubble, but you are probably a bigger zerger than all the VE players you despise. BTW I am healer is not a excuse. A healing build is not a solo build. Any half way competent play should recognize they should change there skills/gear in/outside a group. It is purely an excuse to try and excuse stacking with every EP pug in existence.
That is fine you are welcome to do that, but don't go and harass other people and call them zerglings. I have had a longstanding dislike of VE, but you and other people like @PrinceFabious and @FENGRUSH zerg every bit as hard as them. Then go and talk massive *** to them. I hate to burst your bubble, but stacking with 100 pugs is just as bad as being in a 24 man raid.
Says the one farming on the coattails of 2 24 man raids last night.
Can confirm Moji was zerg surfing yesterday on his NB. I specifically remember him pushing out and getting exposed by my flurry in front of the full raids. What a cute guy.
What the HELL did you just call Mojican? I'll have you know he graduated at the top of his class in the US navy seals, and he is trained in gorilla warfare. He can be anywhere, anytime, and he can kill you in over 700 ways, and that's just with his bear hands. Think twice before you call him "cute" again, kiddo.
And you are?2
