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Race Change Broken?

SiAScORCH
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I'm pretty sure the race change is broken somehow.

When I was a Khajiit my stamina recovery was at 1963, that's with 10% stamina recovery. I changed to Wood Elf to get an additional 11% stamina recovery and it's still at 1963. It should be around 2178 now with me being a Wood Elf. So I basically just wasted 3k crowns. Yay. Refund request here I come.
  • Voxicity
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    Did you buy the skill that gives you stamina recovery?
  • Mustard
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    Check your skills under racial and you might need to respec them all.
  • markc01
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    oops!
  • ZOS_GinaBruno
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    Hmm, we'll take a look now @SiAScORCH
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  • jcaceresw
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    KaiVox22 wrote: »
    Did you buy the skill that gives you stamina recovery?

    He means if you put all skillpoints into the stam recovery again in your race skill tree.
  • Bad_Company
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    If the OP had not bought the new racial skill his/her character would still have less stamina recovery than the pre-change amount. Something must be indeed wrong.
    My characters (EU PC):
    Leopardo Di-Caprio (Khajiit Templar) || Matthew Makehoney (Altmer Sorcerer) || Luck-Luster Burt (Redguard Dragonknight)
    Clint Histwood (Argonian Templar) || Martin Uber Ping (Redguard Sorcerer) || Louis Farmstrong (Imperial Nightblade)
    Anthony Hotskins (Altmer Nightblade)

  • SiAScORCH
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    Of course I put the points into the racial skill line, as it refunded the 9. But my stamina recovery is still the same, my max stamina has increased but not the stamina recovery.

    Thanks Gina.
  • wharf
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    did you check your stats in combat? wood elf stam regen only applies while in combat i think
  • Icarus42
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    I am also having this problem. I changed my race from breton to high elf and my magic recovery is exactly the same as it was before (1603) I put all skill points into the new skill line and nothing. I also reset my skills and applied them again nothing, logged in and out, still missing 9% regen bonus from racial passive.
    Hope you guys can fix this soon, its a big bummer!
    Ebonheart Pact - PC NA - Magicka Sorcerer
  • timidobserver
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    Guess I'll be waiting on my race change until this gets looked at.
    V16 Uriel Stormblessed EP Magicka Templar(main)
    V16 Derelict Vagabond EP Stamina DK
    V16 Redacted Ep Stam Sorc
    V16 Insolent EP Magicka Sorc(retired)
    V16 Jed I Nyte EP Stamina NB(retired)

  • Kalante
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    lolololololololololol
  • KronicDecay
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    This is why I never change anything after a major patch like this haha. Sorry for the issue's you're having OP.
  • Mojmir
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    My question is..still think theyre worth the price?
  • SiAScORCH
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    Mojmir wrote: »
    My question is..still think theyre worth the price?

    Nope. It's not even worth 500. I used my crowns that I spent money on for something to better my character. That's not the case here I didn't even get the extra stam regen that I was going for.

    I sent in a support ticket asking if they don't fix this within a few days then I requested:

    1.) Switch my race back to Khajiit and refund me my 3,000 crowns I spent since I didn't actually get what I was paying for.
    2.) If they can't do one, then give me 6,000 crowns so I can change my race back to Khajiit and still have my actual 3,000 crowns to use on something else.
  • Bigevilpeter
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    Did you guys notice that after patch racial skills were reset, and after race change you still didnt have the passives?

    maybe that's why
  • SiAScORCH
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    Did you guys notice that after patch racial skills were reset, and after race change you still didnt have the passives?

    maybe that's why

    The passives listed are correct, however the stam recovery in my case and the mag recover his in case just isn't working. It has to be a racial passive bug or a bug from using race change. Either way it needs to be addressed.
  • timidobserver
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    I wonder if reepeccing all skillpoints prior to the race change would solve this. If anyone tries that, let me know.
    V16 Uriel Stormblessed EP Magicka Templar(main)
    V16 Derelict Vagabond EP Stamina DK
    V16 Redacted Ep Stam Sorc
    V16 Insolent EP Magicka Sorc(retired)
    V16 Jed I Nyte EP Stamina NB(retired)

  • idk
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    Zos nerfed stacking of bonuses. Regen is an area hit hard. Basically, we get less from our CP now.

    This was in the patch notes. How it's multiplicative and no longer addative. .
    Edited by idk on August 2, 2016 2:32PM
  • jkolb2030
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    It probably has something to do with how they changed stats from multiplying together to being added together instead.. I believe it was in the patch notes and I believe it affected the regen stats specifically.

    I will try to edit this post with the quote...

    EDIT

    Heres the quote...

    "Fixed an issue where percentage bonuses to the same type of stat (Magicka Recovery, Max Magicka, etc.) would stack multiplicatively rather than additively. This will result in some stats changing slightly (generally going down)."
    Edited by jkolb2030 on August 2, 2016 2:39PM
  • Personofsecrets
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    We will never get CP without first losing benefits that only CP can make up.
    Rest in Peace:
    The Dragonknight
    2014-2025

    This commemoration is for the class that has constantly been plundered and dismantled by designers for no obvious reason while other classes continue to have coherent skill lines and feel both powerful and cool.
  • altemriel
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    well I hope this is not a bug again, as paying 3000 crowns for a bugged barber shop, like seriously WTH ZOS???
  • SPE825
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    Guess I'll be waiting on my race change until this gets looked at.

    Yup, glad the PC guys and gals get to find these bugs before I do a race change on the console.
  • SPE825
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    jkolb2030 wrote: »
    It probably has something to do with how they changed stats from multiplying together to being added together instead.. I believe it was in the patch notes and I believe it affected the regen stats specifically.

    I will try to edit this post with the quote...

    EDIT

    Heres the quote...

    "Fixed an issue where percentage bonuses to the same type of stat (Magicka Recovery, Max Magicka, etc.) would stack multiplicatively rather than additively. This will result in some stats changing slightly (generally going down)."

    That seems poorly worded on their part. But it basically sounds like an investment changing from compound interest to simple interest.
  • Bigevilpeter
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    Worked fine for me changed from Imperial to wood elf and stamina regen increased from 755 to 863

    Edit: though 755*21%= 913 not 863

    @ZOS_GinaBruno is that beacuse of stacking or is it bugged too?
    Edited by Bigevilpeter on August 2, 2016 5:26PM
  • AGrz5585
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    Yeah regen were nerfed with the patch. Was your regen 1900 before patch or after it?
  • Oreyn_Bearclaw
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    We will never get CP without first losing benefits that only CP can make up.

    Yep!!! Hey everyone, here is 30 more CP, oh by the way, we nerfed the crap out of your sustain. My DK was struggling with magic last night for the first time in months.
  • olsborg
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    I noticed it was harder to resource manage my stamina during longer fights today for the first time in ages. And I went from imperial to bosmer lol, should have been the other way if anything...hmm

    PC EU
    PvP only
  • timidobserver
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    So, is it confirmed that this is a result of the regen nerf and not a bug in race changes? I refuse to spend that many crowns until I know for certain that there are no bugs.
    V16 Uriel Stormblessed EP Magicka Templar(main)
    V16 Derelict Vagabond EP Stamina DK
    V16 Redacted Ep Stam Sorc
    V16 Insolent EP Magicka Sorc(retired)
    V16 Jed I Nyte EP Stamina NB(retired)

  • AGrz5585
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    Any of my characters that used regen. (Magplar, stamNB, stamDK) all lost about 100 or so regen and nothing was changed on them
  • SiAScORCH
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    AGrz5585 wrote: »
    Yeah regen were nerfed with the patch. Was your regen 1900 before patch or after it?

    After. I checked right before I did the race change.

    I may be the only one but the nerfing of characters and and classes is really starting to get rather annoying and I've only been playing since Feb of this year.

    Prime Example:

    I watched people cry about shield stacking, then I did a bit of searching and found that this was the reason shields were cut in half in PvP area. So they catered to the people crying tears and nerfed the shields from 20 secs to 6 seconds. They could of just simply done that in PvP area instead of all around. An even better idea, instead of doing something that drastic they could or lowered to to 12 seconds, because anywhere in Cyro where you use a shield, it's gone before 6 seconds anyways. Since they nerfed the duration, they should of nerfed the cost of the skill by the same percentage.
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