I had a very strange experience a couple of nights ago, I met this guy in pvp who asked to join our group, and so I invited him, and he got killed and started freaking out about it, saying he was going to quit the game lol I don't know exactly what his problem was but I spent a while trying to calm him down a bit lol

My guild friends then decided that a few groups of us were going to do fungal grotto and have a race to see who finished first, and I asked him to join us thinking it might cheer him up a bit. He did pretty well considering it was his first time there, but he died twice, the first time he freaked out, f-ing and blinding about how bad the game is, and the second time he died he typed 'yawn' into chat and then logged off! So I think that the reason this guy does not do dungeons (or anything else) is because dying makes him angry lol

As a savvy dung/trials guy, it has always been a fun Experiance when a guy in group says they have never done this dung before. Immediately the knowledgable players go into "no problem bro, we will walk you through it mode". There a good helpful players out there. Not just toxic ones. A pve guild is very helpful too btw.

IcyDeadPeople wrote: »

MopeyHat wrote: »

I keep seeing people say they've never done a dungeon, or only done one or two.

What keeps you out of dungeons? Is it the dungeon finder being glitchy? Players turn you off? Does PvP or roleplaying keep you busy?

The veteran dungeons and trials don't seem like much fun to be honest. The couple of experiences I had, everyone kept dying and blaming each other, and you waste a lot of gold on repairing your gear etc.

PVP is a lot more relaxing experience. I just log on at any time, play by myself and gank people on a bridge or something.

Personally I don't think anyone should do the vet stuff unless they are with friends.

I went in vet DSA for my first time the other day with 3 great friends, 4 1/2 hrs later, while on round 10, we had to give up. If they had a more experienced player than me they would have walked it. If they were a pug group, to be honest I could understand them getting angry with me as I did make most of the mistakes. But they found it funny as they know me well and we had a great laugh, and I cant wait to improve and try again.

What I will say is three things, I have been playing since beta (did have a break for a few months when loading screens and PvP lag got me down but have recently returned), I went through the 3 alliances solo and did all the solo dungeons, I have only done 2 or 3 of the group dungeons and only a couple of the pledges (non vet).

1) Due to group size, we often had 5, 6,7 in the guild wanting to group up, hence I spent most of my time in Cyrodill else some were always left out. Then I got addicted to Cyrodiil and just spent months in there every night (still never mace it on the leader-board )

2) The solo part of the game is generally so easy that it's very very hard to learn how to play to be good in a dungeon without being in one. I practised my sorc all week before doing vet DSA, but virtually all mobs were dead before even half way through my rotation hence the first time I got to practice my rotation was when I was actually inside DSA.

You can read great class guides guides such as Deltias gaming or Yolowizards, but being ibn DSA and seeing how well it works is not really the right place to try it, sure I could have done a few group dungeons first, but again unless your doing it with friends, others probably wont be patient while you learn to play.

3) Unless you are prepared to use addons, you cant really tell how much damage you are doing. Even following Yolowizards guide, it wasn't until I installed "LUI Extended" and could see my damage, that I learnt how, why and when it's best to use certain skill combos etc.

Lysette wrote: »

SadieJoan wrote: »

I had a very strange experience a couple of nights ago, I met this guy in pvp who asked to join our group, and so I invited him, and he got killed and started freaking out about it, saying he was going to quit the game lol I don't know exactly what his problem was but I spent a while trying to calm him down a bit lol

My guild friends then decided that a few groups of us were going to do fungal grotto and have a race to see who finished first, and I asked him to join us thinking it might cheer him up a bit. He did pretty well considering it was his first time there, but he died twice, the first time he freaked out, f-ing and blinding about how bad the game is, and the second time he died he typed 'yawn' into chat and then logged off! So I think that the reason this guy does not do dungeons (or anything else) is because dying makes him angry lol

Sounds much like it - I do not like dying as well, but when it happens, then it happens - and I would never go that far to put the blame on someone else - that someone did not die, but me - haha - some people will always try to put the blame on others.

I personally don't really care much if I die or not, but this person seemed to take it to heart very much lol He wasn't even blaming others as such, he even complimented my healing once or twice in fact, it seemed like he just had a serious grudge against the game, and doesn't take part in much at all because he has a death phobia My friends were all telling me to kick him out of our group because he was such a misery, but I kind of felt sorry for him a little bit, and thought that maybe he just needed some friends to help him enjoy the game a bit more and to make him feel happy, but he isn't going to make many friends with an attitude like that haha!

Fear. Fear of wasting other players time. Of not being good enough.

Well...that and not being a mic users, kind of makes it hard to communicate. Why are we all standing around? Should I be doing something specific? Maybe I'll just take a shot at that thing over there and see what...oh. Oh dear. That was not good. Not good at all.

Crap..where's the "sorry" emote thing?

bareheiny wrote: »

Fear. Fear of wasting other players time. Of not being good enough.

Well...that and not being a mic users, kind of makes it hard to communicate. Why are we all standing around? Should I be doing something specific? Maybe I'll just take a shot at that thing over there and see what...oh. Oh dear. That was not good. Not good at all.

Crap..where's the "sorry" emote thing?

Come run with your guildies. We don't judge, and we're not fussed if you don't mic... I do dungeons regularly with at least one guy who doesn't mic. If he needs to tell us something he messages. If there's something specific you need to know (rarely) then someone with a mic will let you know or otherwise message you.

Plus, it'd be good to have a fourth person available...

Lysette wrote: »

melianos wrote: »

I'm wondering if the group finder should add a "jack of all trade" option for people like me. I'd gladly do dungeons with 3 other hybrids, and we'd now before hand what we are going into.

I like this idea - it is more like playing together without to agree on certain roles where everyone just does his/her best. In a way, like when I am in a dungeon on my own and I see someone struggling, I support him/her - or like it happened yesterday to me, I ran into an enemy which was clearly too powerful for me and another player just stepped in and helped me out.

Actually we should tag @ZOS_GinaBruno because this is a very good idea which would make people like us want to try group play.

It actually might make grouping easier and faster.

Group Finder fails are the exact reason other games don't require typical tank, 2 dps, healer combinations.

They need to change the whole dynamic of how dungeons work. I'm tired of tanking and want to go dps but group finder just doesn't happen if I try that. Granted, I have most of the monster sets, but not all in favourable traits.

I'm just tired of group finder not working, or taking too long. Yes, I am in 5 guilds, but hardly anyone is ever interested in doing them, or has done them for the day already.

It's off-putting and I've been playing other games as they're just a whole lot easier to just get in and queue for something, instead of sitting around for an hour trying to get a group in ESO.

I do dungeons to get monster helms, rare gear( Agility/Endurance/willpower rings) and gold. While, I have seen others enjoy doing dungeons after dungeons( don't know why? ).

I spent most of the time doing PvP, because its fun and full of action.

Edit: You guys will not require group finder, Once "1 tamriel" is released. Just type in zone chat for LFG pledges, and your good to go.

Because I don't want to get PVE on these fabulous new boots.

The group finder is practically broken and I don't like having to rely on terrible players. Case in point: When I first did Unbanished Cells as a complete noob at around level 22 or so it was with a group of CP300+ players and the dungeon was upscaled to CP160 or some such. They were all terrible. Most of them died repeatedly - all except the tank, usually. But not me. I was always the last one alive. In fact, I solo'd two of the bosses. Alone. Bad players, man. I just hate having to rely on bad players.

I've also never really been a fan of raiding/dungeons on any game. Groups also seem to want people that are CP160+ to CP510+ and I'm not there yet. My main is CP85-ish and I don't like the idea of doing the enemy faction campaigns on her so I'm doing an entirely new character through the game before my CP will rise further. That one's about 44-ish.

Once I've created and leveled all the characters that I want I may begrudgingly start doing some dungeons but I've never really been a fan of them. Finding a group takes forever, the dungeon takes forever, and it's generally not worth the time/effort. Definitely not my personal idea of fun and I play the game to have fun.

To do that though I'd want a dungeon guild so I don't have to frustrate myself with randoms and queue times. Unfortunately, this game has no auction house system which forces me into trading guilds. I'd like to have a dungeon guild and a PvP guild but as reality has it... my trading guilds are necessary. I've made my own trading guild at this point and we're at around 370+ members now. Hopefully within a few months it will be good enough that I can drop one of my trading guilds and replace it with either a PvP or Dungeon guild.

When the game was first out, I did plenty of dungeons with guildies. We were all on the same footing, trying out the dungeons, listening to the (sometimes German even though we use the English client) NPC's, and figuring out stuff together.

All those first guildies have left, the guild no longer exists, and the few remaining joined a new guild. Their skill was higher than what I was used to, and my first trial with them was all rush and no finesse (plus in my rush I fell down and had to run back, making the group wait for me, how embarrassing). No idea what was going on, despite being on TS, and almost 2 years later I still don't know what the story is behind AA.

They all join PTS when it comes out, have done all the new dungeons loads of times by the time its on live. After work, by the time I log on, people are already asking for members by linking achievements. I just feel old and tired by all this rushing around.

I'll just continue farming a bit on my own.

Some of the most fun experiences I've had this game involved using the group finder tool, then ending up in vICP with 2+ people that never tried it before.
As long as someone is learning from their mistakes, and doesn't throw a tantrum when I try to give them pointers, I don't care if it takes 40 minutes, or 4 hours to complete.

But I can understand why one would be hesitant to start doing this sort of content when they feel ill prepared, or have had bad experiences before. Best advice would be to join a nice (PvE) guild, befriend the people that are kind and willing to help out, and ignore the toxic ones.

I have the monster set i need (from vendor in cyro) and i have lv9 undaunted so i never ever will step foot in these boring dungeons.