Merchants seems like a waste of space

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Because there is NOTHING worth buying other than getting your armor repaired, that's all!
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  • Wow
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    I think they are mostly there for immersion purposes

    Their prices on their for sale items are overly expensive, kinda break my immersion even more lol.
  • CherryCake
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    Ref wrote: »
    I think they are mostly there for immersion purposes

    Their prices on their for sale items are overly expensive, kinda break my immersion even more lol.

    Imagine living in Switzerland, problem solved xDDD
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  • Wolfshead
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    Because there is NOTHING worth buying other than getting your armor repaired, that's all!
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    Well the can be there also for them of us who dont care so much of carft on alt and just want lvl them up fast i can say i have use them a few time of my alts i lvl up
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  • e1team
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    Wolfshead wrote: »
    Because there is NOTHING worth buying other than getting your armor repaired, that's all!
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    Well the can be there also for them of us who dont care so much of carft on alt and just want lvl them up fast i can say i have use them a few time of my alts i lvl up

    Damn, I understood almost none of it :D
    On topic: They are a lifesaver when it comes to repairing your gear and freeing bag space. Other than that i honestly never browsed their wares. Is there anything of note?
    Edited by e1team on July 31, 2016 8:19AM
  • Lysette
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    Ref wrote: »
    I think they are mostly there for immersion purposes

    Their prices on their for sale items are overly expensive, kinda break my immersion even more lol.

    Imagine living in Switzerland, problem solved xDDD

    Or in London, it is my favorite metropolis, but living there is a nightmare seen from the costs of living and housing.
    Edited by Lysette on July 31, 2016 8:34AM
  • CherryCake
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    Lysette wrote: »
    Ref wrote: »
    I think they are mostly there for immersion purposes

    Their prices on their for sale items are overly expensive, kinda break my immersion even more lol.

    Imagine living in Switzerland, problem solved xDDD

    Or in London, it is my favorite metropolis, but living there is a nightmare seen from the costs of living and housing.

    I also heard about that! I think there a house to rent is about 1500 per month? But I might be mistaken. Here in Switzerland to get something more decent you need to pay at least 1800 per month. Anything below that is either very small, in a bad neighborhood, far away from any points of interest, old, or all of them.
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  • aldriq
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    I can believe that. I visited Geneva last year and it's definitely more expensive than London... funny thing is we met a Swiss from Zurich a few months later and he laughed and said 'Zurich is even more expensive'... The Economist seems to confirm our anecdotal evidence in their 2016 survey.

    Maybe the game should model this cost of living fluctuations by making merchants in smaller towns and villages cheaper than in the cities.
  • CherryCake
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    @Aldriq, that is true! I think Zurich has to be one of the most expensive ones in Switzerland. I know a person that doesnt even live in the city itself but in a village around it, however he pays 900francs per month, for a very tiny appartment with only one room and a separate bathroom, kitchen is in the same room, but not bigger than a desk, I wish I was kidding to be honest :(.

    Look here on the link I shared for example, 35 square meters for 1500? Thats insane xD.
    I have never even visited Geneva, as it is far from my style but I belive you, the prices cant be that much further away from the rest :(. Heck even going for a holiday here you pay like 1500 for one week, for not even a very high quality hotel or anything. Your typical kg of meat like chicken etc costs around 30francs. So yeah, imagine Tamriel is Switzerland and maybe you get used to it...(or not, I didnt, dont think I ever will xD).
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  • Lysette
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    Lysette wrote: »
    Ref wrote: »
    I think they are mostly there for immersion purposes

    Their prices on their for sale items are overly expensive, kinda break my immersion even more lol.

    Imagine living in Switzerland, problem solved xDDD

    Or in London, it is my favorite metropolis, but living there is a nightmare seen from the costs of living and housing.

    I also heard about that! I think there a house to rent is about 1500 per month? But I might be mistaken. Here in Switzerland to get something more decent you need to pay at least 1800 per month. Anything below that is either very small, in a bad neighborhood, far away from any points of interest, old, or all of them.

    Far worse - sharing a flat with a couple of other people leaves you with 1-room and about 600 dollars, not including your share for communal services and tax. If you want a house you are more likely to pay like 2500-3000 dollars, if it is not in the outskirts - basically zone 1-3 is really expensive and the others are too far out - it would take you like an hour to get to central London with the tube. Prices differ as well a lot dependent on the borough you want to live at.

    My first stay in London was in Kensington/Chelsea - west of Hyde Park, a more residential area - 1 room for 150 pounds/week - and this was already considered a "better one". I moved to Camden later (north of Soho) pretty near to central London - and shared a 2 bed-room with another lady and we paid 1200 pounds/month, which was like 1800 dollars at that time. A 2 bed-room is 3 rooms in total plus a small kitchen and a bathroom.
    Edited by Lysette on July 31, 2016 10:34AM
  • CherryCake
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    Lysette wrote: »
    Lysette wrote: »
    Ref wrote: »
    I think they are mostly there for immersion purposes

    Their prices on their for sale items are overly expensive, kinda break my immersion even more lol.

    Imagine living in Switzerland, problem solved xDDD

    Or in London, it is my favorite metropolis, but living there is a nightmare seen from the costs of living and housing.

    I also heard about that! I think there a house to rent is about 1500 per month? But I might be mistaken. Here in Switzerland to get something more decent you need to pay at least 1800 per month. Anything below that is either very small, in a bad neighborhood, far away from any points of interest, old, or all of them.

    Far worse - sharing a flat with a couple of other people leaves you with 1-room and about 600 dollars, not including your share for communal services and tax. If you want a house you are more likely to pay like 2500-3000 dollars, if it is not in the outskirts - basically zone 1-3 is really expensive and the others are too far out - it would take you like an hour to get to central London with the tube. Prices differ as well a lot dependent on the borough you want to live at.

    Oh wow I could never live in London then... In Switzerland too, electricity and water is separated, then you have to pay a yearly fee for a house insurance, you have to pay monthly around 280 francs for your health insurance (obligatory), that many times it doesnt even cover much, for example some health insurances only cover you AFTER you paid around 6.000 to the various doctors you went, you must buy communal garbage bags that cost !!!21 francs!!!. Train costs are also enormous to be honest, and in the rush hour it is even rare to find a place to sit, even though you paid maybe 30 francs (with a card that leaves you pay for half a price) for a 1 hour train ride. But all in all, the salaries are also different here, its a wonderful country, people are nice, you can access beautiful scenery in just a few hours of a train ride, its a relatively "safe country" , but dont go around Basel or Solothurn because then, everything changes. It doesnt even look like Switzerland anymore, or feel like it.
    Edited by CherryCake on July 31, 2016 10:32AM
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  • Lysette
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    Lysette wrote: »
    Lysette wrote: »
    Ref wrote: »
    I think they are mostly there for immersion purposes

    Their prices on their for sale items are overly expensive, kinda break my immersion even more lol.

    Imagine living in Switzerland, problem solved xDDD

    Or in London, it is my favorite metropolis, but living there is a nightmare seen from the costs of living and housing.

    I also heard about that! I think there a house to rent is about 1500 per month? But I might be mistaken. Here in Switzerland to get something more decent you need to pay at least 1800 per month. Anything below that is either very small, in a bad neighborhood, far away from any points of interest, old, or all of them.

    Far worse - sharing a flat with a couple of other people leaves you with 1-room and about 600 dollars, not including your share for communal services and tax. If you want a house you are more likely to pay like 2500-3000 dollars, if it is not in the outskirts - basically zone 1-3 is really expensive and the others are too far out - it would take you like an hour to get to central London with the tube. Prices differ as well a lot dependent on the borough you want to live at.

    Oh wow I could never live in London then... In Switzerland too, electricity and water is separated, then you have to pay a yearly fee for a house insurance, you have to pay monthly around 280 francs for your health insurance (obligatory), that many times it doesnt even cover much, for example some health insurances only cover you AFTER you paid around 6.000 to the various doctors you went, you must buy communal garbage bags that cost !!!21 francs!!!. Train costs are also enormous to be honest, and in the rush hour it is even rare to find a place to sit, even though you paid maybe 30 francs (with a card that leaves you pay for half a price) for a 1 hour train ride. But all in all, the salaries are also different here, its a wonderful country, people are nice, you can access beautiful scenery in just a few hours of a train ride, its a relatively "safe country" , but dont go around Basel or Solothurn because then, everything changes. It doesnt even look like Switzerland anymore, or feel like it.

    Salaries in London are a lot higher as well though - to compensate for the high costs of living and housing - I started out as biochemist in my first job and earned an equivalent of 130,000 dollars/year. You cannot survive in London without to have at least 30,000 dollars/year, even if you are willing to share a flat, less is just not doable.

    When it comes to transportation in London you have to consider about 150-200 dollars per month, if you are not in zone 1-2. Then people tend to go to the pub after work - if you don't do that, you are considered asocial - a pint is about 10 dollars and a normal meal about 30 dollars. Go figure what it is like to live in London.

    Health care costs nothing extra - but you always have to make an appointment with a normal doctor first and this might be in like 2-3 weeks from when you ask for it. You cannot go to a specialist without that that doctor agrees and they do that rarely - so better, have a german health insurance, the british one is not good. You have as well no choice what doctor it is - you have to go to a specific one in your borough.
    Edited by Lysette on July 31, 2016 11:02AM
  • jedtb16_ESO
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    Because there is NOTHING worth buying other than getting your armor repaired, that's all!
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    somewhere to dump your junk...
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  • Wolfshead
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    e1team wrote: »
    Wolfshead wrote: »
    Because there is NOTHING worth buying other than getting your armor repaired, that's all!
    DFeP42b.png

    Well the can be there also for them of us who dont care so much of carft on alt and just want lvl them up fast i can say i have use them a few time of my alts i lvl up

    Damn, I understood almost none of it :D
    On topic: They are a lifesaver when it comes to repairing your gear and freeing bag space. Other than that i honestly never browsed their wares. Is there anything of note?

    What dont you understand that if you are play alt and dont want to carft on the alt you can do as i do sometime buy from those armor vendor if easy way to get ok gear while you lvl up alt but i guess some people on this forum need have everything spell out for them to understand something and sorry that english is not my main language
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  • kamimark
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    Chefs and Brewers used to be useless, but now sell basic recipes. For more than auction houses, but you can't always find the one you need anywhere else.
    Grocers sell rarer ingredients at stupidly high price; it used to be 10g per item, now 150g.
    Merchants sell simple bait which can be useful if you run out of worms. The potions are overpriced but will get you thru a fight.
    Fighter's Guild vendors sell Training gear, which is super useful early game or for research.
    Mage's Guild vendors sell jewelry, Training gear, soul gems.
    Even the generic weapon/armor vendors do sell blues and "unknown" boxes which can be good research or decon.

    Auction houses are far better at all these things, but some supplies are hard to find.
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  • Lysette
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    kamimark wrote: »
    Chefs and Brewers used to be useless, but now sell basic recipes. For more than auction houses, but you can't always find the one you need anywhere else.
    Grocers sell rarer ingredients at stupidly high price; it used to be 10g per item, now 150g.
    Merchants sell simple bait which can be useful if you run out of worms. The potions are overpriced but will get you thru a fight.
    Fighter's Guild vendors sell Training gear, which is super useful early game or for research.
    Mage's Guild vendors sell jewelry, Training gear, soul gems.
    Even the generic weapon/armor vendors do sell blues and "unknown" boxes which can be good research or decon.

    Auction houses are far better at all these things, but some supplies are hard to find.

    Yeah I got a couple of training trait gear from those vendors - it is good to have and worth it.
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    I use the vendors for repairs and selling junk, and not much else. I used to buy Merethic Resin, but then I got fed up with the RNG and just bought the last three chapters I needed. :P I'm glad they added the Writ recipes for new players though.
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  • GreenhaloX
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    Merchants are not really a waste of space. It is a lot of those non-set contents up for sale that are wasted space. Also, those that are up for sale for ridiculous prices are waste of space.
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