You're doing nothing wrong.

They need to learn to stay together for more effective healing.

Some bosses, however, your team is best not staying together, in which case, replace Healing Springs with Healing Ward. Boss fights in the Imperial City dungeons are usually best handled this way, alongside the Ash Titan in vCOA, Nerenieth in vCOH, Rilis in vet Banished Cells, the Engine Guardian, etc.


Sometimes I won't even save my teammates if I see them continually stand in red, or have a curse in vet Banished Cells and they don't remove it, or two don't separate in that vet Fungal Grotto boss.

Like everyone else has said, you are doing nothing wrong. Trying to make your way to them during a boss fight usually results in you, well me, dying.

I just make sure I point that out to them, if my gt is grayed out I can't heal you, therefore you are on your own.

Communication is a useful tool as a healer, sometimes it best to quickly just say "hey your too far away you need to move closer to me."

As far as your skills bars go, you seem to be doing everything right, switching healing ward onto one of your bars might help stop the situation, but it will probably still happen. Find a group of people to consistently run dungeons with, when everyone knows how each other plays, dungeons are much easier and situations like this don't arise as often.

I have the same kind of issues healing. I just tell folks I can't be everywhere at once!

Also, I noticed that you have very little DPS on your bars. You have 2 DPS abilities, not including ultimates.

First, if/when you slot Spear Shards, take the Blazing Spear morph for more DPS (the extra resource return on other morph is pitiful) and then spam that thing on groups of mobs, you can get up to 60k DPS like that, which often times is more than both of the DPSs in the group combined.

Next, free up a slot by removing Breath of Life from one of your bars. You only need it on one. Just learn to switch weapons on a fly.

Also, slot all of the abilities that you run from Restoration Staff on one bar, that way you can use a different weapon on the other bar. It is a wise idea to use either Dual Wield or Destruction staff, perhaps Sword and Board.

Totalitarian wrote: »

Also, I noticed that you have very little DPS on your bars. You have 2 DPS abilities, not including ultimates.

First, if/when you slot Spear Shards, take the Blazing Spear morph for more DPS (the extra resource return on other morph is pitiful) and then spam that thing on groups of mobs, you can get up to 60k DPS like that, which often times is more than both of the DPSs in the group combined.

Next, free up a slot by removing Breath of Life from one of your bars. You only need it on one. Just learn to switch weapons on a fly.

Also, slot all of the abilities that you run from Restoration Staff on one bar, that way you can use a different weapon on the other bar. It is a wise idea to use either Dual Wield or Destruction staff, perhaps Sword and Board.

Very good points... I think i can start incorporating this slowly as I take my healing to the next level. What Destro Staff abilities would you suggest besides elemental drain?

Use purifying ritual and radaint glory!
Also, have transmutation set.

Totalitarian wrote: »

JKith wrote: »

What Destro Staff abilities would you suggest besides elemental drain?

You can't use a Restoration Staff ability on a bar that does not have a restoration staff equipped, so you need to switch Breath of Life and Rapid Regeneration.

Oh duh!,.. i missed that.

I have the destro line maxed out at 50. Used it extensively while leveling.... y'all are making me rethink my whole build!

I'm running two setups, can't figure out yet which is better yet,.... TBS has higher heals, but Worm Cult has reduced cost. I can do 17 Breath of life in a row with TBS and 19 with Worm Cult gear.

Setup 1:
5pc Worm Cult (5% reduced magicka cost for the whole group)
3pc Vicious Death (Staff)
3pc Willpower Jewelry

Setup 2:
5pc Divines Twice Born Star (Atronach and Ritual Stones)
2pc Divines Sithis
2 Arcane Willpower (Necklace and Staff)
2 Arcane Endruance Rings

I'm not a pro healer, but I second the suggestion of mutagen. Just before the tank pulls , you pop that twice and everyone has a hot rolling in a 4 man.

Just so I have a heal there, I keep repentance on my dps bar. Seems to me it gets used when a fight is over (where you have plenty of time to swap bars for it), or right after a wave of adds (in which case you have time to swap to it). Unless you really need the regen on that bar, you could swap in another skill there.

I suspect your use of healing springs will depend a lot on your group. I try to keep mutagen on people along with siphon on the boss or higher health mob. I tend to use healing springs as my main larger heal, holding back BoL for emergency use. If you run with people that aren't good at avoiding damage, healing springs is still good to have. I use it a lot.

Good luck, and find other people to run with if any problems are always the fault of the healer.

Edit: I'm not totally sure if it is worth it, but I use structured entropy on my dps bar to proc the "might of the guild" passive for shards or reflective light.

Van_0S wrote: »

Also, have transmutation set.

What's your take on the Transmutation set,.. would you say it's better than the Worm set? I'm quite curious about this set,.. i have a full 160cp set in blue and wondering if it's worth spending the money on Elegant Lining to get it to Purple.

Not sure how the HoT proc works,.. does it work even when allies are at 100% health or do you have to "heal" them, meaning it will only proc when they are below 100% health? and is the Proc a good one? does it really provide that good of a protection for the group?

Lightspeedflashb14_ESO wrote: »

It only gives the crit resist from actually heading a damaged ally. Just like bogdans. But it lasts for a long time. That picture is old the crit resist lasts for 20 seconds now.

As for worm vs trans, use worm for PvE and trans for PvP. Of course I mean as a secondary set, after SPC. Always SPC as healer if you have it.

Great thanks for the info. I'm currently farming for SPC gear... glad to hear you're saying Worm is actually better for PvE (which is what i'm mainly doing now)

I saw Deltia's Battery healer build and he's using 5pc SPC gear and 5pc Worm (Jewelery) but that is EXPENSIVE! Saw it for 100k to 50k for one ring on Guild stores... will have to farm that too it seems...

Looks like SPC gear farming is going to take a while for me.... *sigh*

I just had to add...

JKith wrote: »

if one goes way off where his health bar becomes dim on my screen, I'm having trouble.

If someone's health bar is dimmed, they are well out of range, and nothing you cast will heal them. Unless you are wandering off from the group (which I highly doubt), that one is always 100% on them, not you. Feel free to give out a warning to the group that if you are dimmed on their group list, they are out of range and need to either get closer or heal themselves.


Regarding healing a group that's all spread out, it's tricky, but doable (provided the group members are competent, and it's not a fight that calls specifically for stacking for a heal check).

Sometimes you take less damage as a group if you spread out, such as almost all the bosses in veteran Crypt of Hearts, the first boss in veteran Wayrest Sewers with the ground AoEs and the purple healthdrain, or the "connected health drain" phase of that veteran Fungal Grotto boss that sometimes chains people down.
You will adapt for those ones as you learn, but leaving some morph of Regeneration running at all times, plus having an emergency heal like Breath of Life or Healing Ward available, is usually enough. I also throw down my morph of Grand Healing (Illustrious or Springs) under whoever I feel will need it most, even if we are all spread out and it only hits one person. In a mobile fight, it's still useful. (It's the only healing spell in the game that relies on YOU, not the "smart healing," to place - so you can get creative!)

Short Version - With good groups sometimes they will spread to take less damage so you don't have as much to heal for. If you just keep your morph of Regeneration (Rapid Regen or Mutagen) on all group members, and keep an eye for emergencies, you will be fine. If you are doing that and there are still lots of "emergencies" then it's NOT you.


Regarding skills and gear, you already have great information here, I would just be repeating good information you already have.

healing ward is the key "Oh sh#$!" button for any healer (may be exept od pet sorc, but i'm not shure as have no one)

newtinmpls wrote: »

If they don't stay where you need them to... it's on them.

I knew a healer that used to start by throwing down a blood altar as a visual cue for the team - you start seeing red, get your a** back here for healing.

This is exactly why I play magicka nb for dps (healing myself while doing dmg). People in this game have the wrong idea that tanks and damge dealers suppose to be aware of where the healer is, instead of actulay pay atention to what the boss is doing...

The healer's job is to be aware of where his teammates are, the healer suppose to follow his teammates closely...

I just want to thank the op for specifically stating which class he / she is healing with.