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Jewelry Crafting: Do you support it?

  • Shadesofkin
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    No, I don't support jewelry crafting.
    nimander99 wrote: »
    Clearly the community wants Jewelry Crafting... And Spell Crafting.

    It's not enough of a sample to really make that call and I still believe that in the current state of the game, neither should be welcomed. There's already a massive power creep going on, without a scale back on power levels the game wouldn't be able to keep up with player meta ever, and it barely manages to now.
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  • Lord_Eomer
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    Players keep collecting feedback and opening threads but developers go as per their plan

    This will come if they can make $ out of it..
  • THEDKEXPERIENCE
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    Yes, I support jewelry crafting.
    I love the "crafting only takes 5 minutes argument."

    Um ... nope. It actually takes 1 to 2 years of research to craft top level stuff. Just because you can pay (or pester) your friendly neighborhood crafter into making you something in 5 minutes doesn't mean that it only took 5 minutes. Anyone willing to put that much time into researching things should be able to craft the best gear.
  • Shadesofkin
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    No, I don't support jewelry crafting.
    I love the "crafting only takes 5 minutes argument."

    Um ... nope. It actually takes 1 to 2 years of research to craft top level stuff. Just because you can pay (or pester) your friendly neighborhood crafter into making you something in 5 minutes doesn't mean that it only took 5 minutes. Anyone willing to put that much time into researching things should be able to craft the best gear.

    You can craft the best gear. Hundigs, Night Mothers, Tavas, Hist Bark, Armor Master, Julianos, and Twice Born Star...all Craftable.

    While dropped sets may seem to be comparable, they're not always. There are a number of builds that are nearly pure crafted that do similar if not more damage based on the player running it.

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  • Daishichi
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    Yes, I support jewelry crafting.
    As someone who has invested a lot of time in crafting, I would love to see it pay off with some jewelry crafting that's exclusive to master crafters. Not sure how they'd do it...maybe reserve the powerful stuff for people who have unlocked all/most research?
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  • juhasman
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    No, I don't support jewelry crafting.
    I love the "crafting only takes 5 minutes argument."

    Um ... nope. It actually takes 1 to 2 years of research to craft top level stuff. Just because you can pay (or pester) your friendly neighborhood crafter into making you something in 5 minutes doesn't mean that it only took 5 minutes. Anyone willing to put that much time into researching things should be able to craft the best gear.

    1 or 2 years? This game have 2 years so it would means 9 trait crafters are here since few weeks lol. It takes much less time and when You finally have all 9 traits learned and there are new craftable sets added it takes You 5 minutes to get them same like all other crafted sets when people who want to get new droopped sets need to spend much more time on this. So yes at the beggining it takes less time to farm droppable sets then 9 traits craftable but You dont need to wear 9 trait sets because for DD's 6 trait sets are very good and takes like 2 weeks to learn. So You can have that 6 traits sets until You'll be able to craft 9 traits sets when droppable sets still will take same amount of time to drop and You cannot drop some lesser sets in the meantime.
  • Eirikir
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    Yes, I support jewelry crafting.
    juhasman wrote: »
    Eirikir wrote: »
    juhasman wrote: »
    I am done with this pointless discussion. I am not fan of Zenimax but I must admit they created good working and healthy gearing mechanic. Fact they dont even have a plans to change during 2 years of the game so it's abvious crafting jewelery will not come. Atm only things Zenimax doing is improving present mechanic what shows that my theory is right.I think if i would dig in ESO life episodes I would even found moment where devs said they dont have jewelery crafting in plans. So keep dreaming all lazy people. Cheers.


    Wow, being right about a videogame is important to you isn't it?

    And calling people who don't have the time to grind for days on end lazy? I am very sorry that we all have big boy and big girl responsibilities that don't revolve around a videogame. One day when you grow up you will understand.

    P.S. Name calling, even something harmless like "lazy" does violate the ToS here. So chill my friend, no need ro get heated. Its just a game and these are just opinions.

    2. You dont know what You're talking about. Spending 2 hours per day on gold farm 7 days in a row allows You to have over 1milion gold ,and improve or buy all gear You need for next 3-6 months. So assuming someone spends average 2hours/day in game, farming gold for equipment takes 3-4% of time he'll run in this gear. So yes i think people are lazy or just dont have a knowledge how to make a gold in ESO. In both cases that people should not to speak IMO in threads like this.

    Sparky, you obviously don't live a full life. 2 hours a day? Up at 5am, work by 7am, pick up one of my princesses by 4pm from dance, home amd starting dinner by 5pm. Family time until 8pm, kids to bed amd clean up for dinner... its 9pm and now time for the gym. Home by 10pm time for eso. Visit buddies, run something, off to bed by 11pm, gotta work tomorrow.

    So I would like, even if its weaker, a more time efficient way to get jewelry. What bothers me is how do you have all this time. Maybe the lazy ones aren't the ones that want to craft you don't know their lives and may not be emotionally mature enough to be empathetic. Maybe, just maybe the lazy one is the kid who sits in front of his pc all day playing videogames and letting his life pass him by. Just a thought.
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  • me_ming
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    Yes, I support jewelry crafting.
    juhasman wrote: »
    I am done with this pointless discussion. I am not fan of Zenimax but I must admit they created good working and healthy gearing mechanic. Fact they dont even have a plans to change during 2 years of the game so it's abvious crafting jewelery will not come. Atm only things Zenimax doing is improving present mechanic what shows that my theory is right.I think if i would dig in ESO life episodes I would even found moment where devs said they dont have jewelery crafting in plans. So keep dreaming all lazy people. Cheers.

    You sir (or ma'am) are selfish.

    Some people who don't grind trials/dungeons/whatever aren't lazy. Some people who have real life job and family work more than they play a video game. Now, you may have the luxury to play all day long, but others are living in the real world trying to make ends meet. Is that how you define laziness? Some of these people who have real life events going on just want to have decent gear too, so when they do play with people like yourself won't have to endure getting rage /tells from you when you're accidentally grouped with them. You can still have your legendary drops from trials/dungeons/what-nots, and they are still much desired. But for the mean time being able to craft gear/weapons (and hopefully jewelry) and especially being able to upgrade that to legendary status will help some players to be at least at par with full-time gamers like yourself.

    BTW, I have had my fair share in the leaderboards both PvP and PvE, and I've had legendary weapons/jewelry rewards. But I have friends who play every now and again, because they are more busy than me. I don't see why they can't craft their jewelries so that can be competitive too.

    People will still do trials, whether there are craft-able jewelry sets. People have been doing trials when they were still scaled to v14 and all you get are v14 Legendary Vicious Ophidia necklaces and rings, it's not just about the jewelry sets you get being in the leaderboards. I dare say that sometimes, it's only about seeing your name in those leaderboards that matter. Admit it you're one of those people who really doesn't care anymore about the drops, you just want your name to be seen.
    Edited by me_ming on July 26, 2016 11:12PM
    "We're heroes, my boon companion, and heroes always win! Let that be a lesson to you."
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  • juhasman
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    No, I don't support jewelry crafting.
    Eirikir wrote: »
    juhasman wrote: »
    Eirikir wrote: »
    juhasman wrote: »
    I am done with this pointless discussion. I am not fan of Zenimax but I must admit they created good working and healthy gearing mechanic. Fact they dont even have a plans to change during 2 years of the game so it's abvious crafting jewelery will not come. Atm only things Zenimax doing is improving present mechanic what shows that my theory is right.I think if i would dig in ESO life episodes I would even found moment where devs said they dont have jewelery crafting in plans. So keep dreaming all lazy people. Cheers.


    Wow, being right about a videogame is important to you isn't it?

    And calling people who don't have the time to grind for days on end lazy? I am very sorry that we all have big boy and big girl responsibilities that don't revolve around a videogame. One day when you grow up you will understand.

    P.S. Name calling, even something harmless like "lazy" does violate the ToS here. So chill my friend, no need ro get heated. Its just a game and these are just opinions.

    2. You dont know what You're talking about. Spending 2 hours per day on gold farm 7 days in a row allows You to have over 1milion gold ,and improve or buy all gear You need for next 3-6 months. So assuming someone spends average 2hours/day in game, farming gold for equipment takes 3-4% of time he'll run in this gear. So yes i think people are lazy or just dont have a knowledge how to make a gold in ESO. In both cases that people should not to speak IMO in threads like this.

    Sparky, you obviously don't live a full life. 2 hours a day? Up at 5am, work by 7am, pick up one of my princesses by 4pm from dance, home amd starting dinner by 5pm. Family time until 8pm, kids to bed amd clean up for dinner... its 9pm and now time for the gym. Home by 10pm time for eso. Visit buddies, run something, off to bed by 11pm, gotta work tomorrow.

    So I would like, even if its weaker, a more time efficient way to get jewelry. What bothers me is how do you have all this time. Maybe the lazy ones aren't the ones that want to craft you don't know their lives and may not be emotionally mature enough to be empathetic. Maybe, just maybe the lazy one is the kid who sits in front of his pc all day playing videogames and letting his life pass him by. Just a thought.

    AVERAGE 2 hours per day. 4 hours at saturday 4 hours at sunday and 1 hour other days also gives 2 hours per day.And even playing average 1 hour per day still means You need to spend just 6-8% of playtime to farm gold which allows You to buy and improve everything. If You want the game where You have something instantly without any efford and time onto it then dont choose this with RPG in the name.
    Edited by juhasman on July 26, 2016 11:41PM
  • juhasman
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    No, I don't support jewelry crafting.
    me_ming wrote: »
    juhasman wrote: »
    I am done with this pointless discussion. I am not fan of Zenimax but I must admit they created good working and healthy gearing mechanic. Fact they dont even have a plans to change during 2 years of the game so it's abvious crafting jewelery will not come. Atm only things Zenimax doing is improving present mechanic what shows that my theory is right.I think if i would dig in ESO life episodes I would even found moment where devs said they dont have jewelery crafting in plans. So keep dreaming all lazy people. Cheers.

    You sir (or ma'am) are selfish.

    Some people who don't grind trials/dungeons/whatever aren't lazy. Some people who have real life job and family work more than they play a video game. Now, you may have the luxury to play all day long, but others are living in the real world trying to make ends meet. Is that how you define laziness? Some of these people who have real life events going on just want to have decent gear too, so when they do play with people like yourself won't have to endure getting rage /tells from you when you're accidentally grouped with them. You can still have your legendary drops from trials/dungeons/what-nots, and they are still much desired. But for the mean time being able to craft gear/weapons (and hopefully jewelry) and especially being able to upgrade that to legendary status will help some players to be at least at par with full-time gamers like yourself.

    BTW, I have had my fair share in the leaderboards both PvP and PvE, and I've had legendary weapons/jewelry rewards. But I have friends who play every now and again, because they are more busy than me. I don't see why they can't craft their jewelries so that can be competitive too.

    People will still do trials, whether there are craft-able jewelry sets. People have been doing trials when they were still scaled to v14 and all you get are v14 Legendary Vicious Ophidia necklaces and rings, it's not just about the jewelry sets you get being in the leaderboards. I dare say that sometimes, it's only about seeing your name in those leaderboards that matter. Admit it you're one of those people who really doesn't care anymore about the drops, you just want your name to be seen.

    I dont even have a time to answer that long and pointless speech. Just read my other posts here where i define what laziness means in ESO for me due to fact how quick gearing up is when You farm gold. And keep in mind this is MMO RPG and You want to get everything instant and be in-pair with people who work on top gear much longer then something isnt right here.
    EDITED: I am not even doing weekly trials due to fact i dont care about beeing on leaderboards if i dont get any profits for it and atm weekly trials leaderboards dont give profits , because MoL sets are not so good for my characters so You missed in this one a lot. Btw when trials was scaled to v14 and max lv was v16 many times top 100 leaderboard was open at the end of the week , and many groups in leaderboards was just new players who was doing it 2nd or 3rd time in life.
    Edited by juhasman on July 26, 2016 11:51PM
  • me_ming
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    Yes, I support jewelry crafting.
    juhasman wrote: »
    me_ming wrote: »
    juhasman wrote: »
    I am done with this pointless discussion. I am not fan of Zenimax but I must admit they created good working and healthy gearing mechanic. Fact they dont even have a plans to change during 2 years of the game so it's abvious crafting jewelery will not come. Atm only things Zenimax doing is improving present mechanic what shows that my theory is right.I think if i would dig in ESO life episodes I would even found moment where devs said they dont have jewelery crafting in plans. So keep dreaming all lazy people. Cheers.

    You sir (or ma'am) are selfish.

    Some people who don't grind trials/dungeons/whatever aren't lazy. Some people who have real life job and family work more than they play a video game. Now, you may have the luxury to play all day long, but others are living in the real world trying to make ends meet. Is that how you define laziness? Some of these people who have real life events going on just want to have decent gear too, so when they do play with people like yourself won't have to endure getting rage /tells from you when you're accidentally grouped with them. You can still have your legendary drops from trials/dungeons/what-nots, and they are still much desired. But for the mean time being able to craft gear/weapons (and hopefully jewelry) and especially being able to upgrade that to legendary status will help some players to be at least at par with full-time gamers like yourself.

    BTW, I have had my fair share in the leaderboards both PvP and PvE, and I've had legendary weapons/jewelry rewards. But I have friends who play every now and again, because they are more busy than me. I don't see why they can't craft their jewelries so that can be competitive too.

    People will still do trials, whether there are craft-able jewelry sets. People have been doing trials when they were still scaled to v14 and all you get are v14 Legendary Vicious Ophidia necklaces and rings, it's not just about the jewelry sets you get being in the leaderboards. I dare say that sometimes, it's only about seeing your name in those leaderboards that matter. Admit it you're one of those people who really doesn't care anymore about the drops, you just want your name to be seen.

    I dont even have a will to answer that long and pointless speech. Just read my other posts here where i define what laziness means in ESO for me. And keep in mind this is MMO RPG and You want to get everything instant and be in-pair with people who work on top gear much longer so something isnt right here.
    EDITED: I am not even doing weekly trials due to fact i dont care about beeing on leaderboards if i dont get any profits for it and atm weekly trials leaderboards dont give profits , because MoL sets are not so good for my characters so You missed in this one a lot. Btw when trials was scaled to v14 and max lv was v16 many times top 100 leaderboard was open at the end of the week , and many groups in leaderboards was just new players who was doing it 2nd or 3rd time in life.

    Selfish and elitist.

    And too lazy to even read stuff. I don't wonder anymore. lol Hope this comment didn't stress you out kiddo. Good luck in life.

    Oh btw, it's "imbalance" not "dissbalance" there's no such thing as "dissbalance". ROFLOL

    PS

    Bare in mind that this is a video game nonetheless. What you do here never equates to being a hard worker in the real world. lol you silly goose . >.<

    "Btw when trials was scaled to v14 and max lv was v16 many times top 100 leaderboard was open at the end of the week"

    1.) it's "trials WERE scaled" not "was".

    2.) you are wrong, I was in a progression group then, and we seldom got a spot on leaderboards. I believe I only got two or three rewards out of those. There are still people who do trials regardless.
    Edited by me_ming on July 26, 2016 11:53PM
    "We're heroes, my boon companion, and heroes always win! Let that be a lesson to you."
    -Caldwell, "The Final Assault"

    "There is always a choice. But you don't get to choose what is true, you only get to choose what you will do about it..."

    -Abnur Tharn, "God of Schemes"]
  • juhasman
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    No, I don't support jewelry crafting.
    me_ming wrote: »
    juhasman wrote: »
    me_ming wrote: »
    juhasman wrote: »
    I am done with this pointless discussion. I am not fan of Zenimax but I must admit they created good working and healthy gearing mechanic. Fact they dont even have a plans to change during 2 years of the game so it's abvious crafting jewelery will not come. Atm only things Zenimax doing is improving present mechanic what shows that my theory is right.I think if i would dig in ESO life episodes I would even found moment where devs said they dont have jewelery crafting in plans. So keep dreaming all lazy people. Cheers.

    You sir (or ma'am) are selfish.

    Some people who don't grind trials/dungeons/whatever aren't lazy. Some people who have real life job and family work more than they play a video game. Now, you may have the luxury to play all day long, but others are living in the real world trying to make ends meet. Is that how you define laziness? Some of these people who have real life events going on just want to have decent gear too, so when they do play with people like yourself won't have to endure getting rage /tells from you when you're accidentally grouped with them. You can still have your legendary drops from trials/dungeons/what-nots, and they are still much desired. But for the mean time being able to craft gear/weapons (and hopefully jewelry) and especially being able to upgrade that to legendary status will help some players to be at least at par with full-time gamers like yourself.

    BTW, I have had my fair share in the leaderboards both PvP and PvE, and I've had legendary weapons/jewelry rewards. But I have friends who play every now and again, because they are more busy than me. I don't see why they can't craft their jewelries so that can be competitive too.

    People will still do trials, whether there are craft-able jewelry sets. People have been doing trials when they were still scaled to v14 and all you get are v14 Legendary Vicious Ophidia necklaces and rings, it's not just about the jewelry sets you get being in the leaderboards. I dare say that sometimes, it's only about seeing your name in those leaderboards that matter. Admit it you're one of those people who really doesn't care anymore about the drops, you just want your name to be seen.

    I dont even have a will to answer that long and pointless speech. Just read my other posts here where i define what laziness means in ESO for me. And keep in mind this is MMO RPG and You want to get everything instant and be in-pair with people who work on top gear much longer so something isnt right here.
    EDITED: I am not even doing weekly trials due to fact i dont care about beeing on leaderboards if i dont get any profits for it and atm weekly trials leaderboards dont give profits , because MoL sets are not so good for my characters so You missed in this one a lot. Btw when trials was scaled to v14 and max lv was v16 many times top 100 leaderboard was open at the end of the week , and many groups in leaderboards was just new players who was doing it 2nd or 3rd time in life.

    Selfish and elitist.

    And too lazy to even read stuff. I don't wonder anymore. lol Hope this comment didn't stress you out kiddo. Good luck in life.

    Oh btw, it's "imbalance" not "dissbalance" there's no such thing as "dissbalance". ROFLOL

    PS

    Bare in mind that this is a video game nonetheless. What you do here never equates to being a hard worker in the real world. lol you silly goose . >.<

    "Btw when trials was scaled to v14 and max lv was v16 many times top 100 leaderboard was open at the end of the week"

    1.) it's "trials WERE scaled" not "was".

    2.) you are wrong, I was in a progression group then, and we seldom got a spot on leaderboards. I believe I only got two or three rewards out of those. There are still people who do trials regardless.

    This is silly how easy is to know who is lazy. Everytime You'll be agaisnt making the game easy mode they'll call You selfish :wink: Greaing procces in ESO is easy and very friendly for people who dont have much real life time , but You cant demand from game to set You in-pair with people who puts more efford into gearing up. Sorry they need to be rewarded but You want them to wear crafted setup just like You. You're really selfish and lazy also.
    Edited by juhasman on July 27, 2016 12:00AM
  • PlagueMonk
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    Yes, I support jewelry crafting.
    YES, I do fully support adding Jewelrycraft. This was one of the MANY things we were promised (along with things like spellcrafting)

    And to those who say "it would make some things OPed!", I would say you don't know what you are talking about. It would just give us the option to move some pieces onto jewelry for a bit more versatility and to upgrade our blue/purple pieces. BIG ****** deal. Do you know how small the bonus from purple to gold is? Hardly worth it but people want that extra 1-2%. You "NO" people seem to think that we would be able to suddenly craft Archmage or other FOUND set pieces. Get a clue.

    PLUS, this is not going to be only available to a few so if EVERYONE can have/do it, how is it "OPed"?

    At this point however I would be MORE than happy with just being able to simply break down all of the freakin' jewelry I get, instead of being forced to sell it for a few measly gold.
    Edited by PlagueMonk on July 27, 2016 12:03AM
  • Kyoma
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    No, I don't support jewelry crafting.
    I want Mount Crafting....
    Will I be able to forget all the wounds that pierce my flesh?
    You and your childish justice. I'll rip it to pieces.
    Come on, it's showtime. A rain of blood like a volcano
    And now I'll blow all of you and you and you...
    All to tiny pieces. All to tiny pieces.
  • me_ming
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    Yes, I support jewelry crafting.
    juhasman wrote: »
    me_ming wrote: »
    juhasman wrote: »
    me_ming wrote: »
    juhasman wrote: »
    I am done with this pointless discussion. I am not fan of Zenimax but I must admit they created good working and healthy gearing mechanic. Fact they dont even have a plans to change during 2 years of the game so it's abvious crafting jewelery will not come. Atm only things Zenimax doing is improving present mechanic what shows that my theory is right.I think if i would dig in ESO life episodes I would even found moment where devs said they dont have jewelery crafting in plans. So keep dreaming all lazy people. Cheers.

    You sir (or ma'am) are selfish.

    Some people who don't grind trials/dungeons/whatever aren't lazy. Some people who have real life job and family work more than they play a video game. Now, you may have the luxury to play all day long, but others are living in the real world trying to make ends meet. Is that how you define laziness? Some of these people who have real life events going on just want to have decent gear too, so when they do play with people like yourself won't have to endure getting rage /tells from you when you're accidentally grouped with them. You can still have your legendary drops from trials/dungeons/what-nots, and they are still much desired. But for the mean time being able to craft gear/weapons (and hopefully jewelry) and especially being able to upgrade that to legendary status will help some players to be at least at par with full-time gamers like yourself.

    BTW, I have had my fair share in the leaderboards both PvP and PvE, and I've had legendary weapons/jewelry rewards. But I have friends who play every now and again, because they are more busy than me. I don't see why they can't craft their jewelries so that can be competitive too.

    People will still do trials, whether there are craft-able jewelry sets. People have been doing trials when they were still scaled to v14 and all you get are v14 Legendary Vicious Ophidia necklaces and rings, it's not just about the jewelry sets you get being in the leaderboards. I dare say that sometimes, it's only about seeing your name in those leaderboards that matter. Admit it you're one of those people who really doesn't care anymore about the drops, you just want your name to be seen.

    I dont even have a will to answer that long and pointless speech. Just read my other posts here where i define what laziness means in ESO for me. And keep in mind this is MMO RPG and You want to get everything instant and be in-pair with people who work on top gear much longer so something isnt right here.
    EDITED: I am not even doing weekly trials due to fact i dont care about beeing on leaderboards if i dont get any profits for it and atm weekly trials leaderboards dont give profits , because MoL sets are not so good for my characters so You missed in this one a lot. Btw when trials was scaled to v14 and max lv was v16 many times top 100 leaderboard was open at the end of the week , and many groups in leaderboards was just new players who was doing it 2nd or 3rd time in life.

    Selfish and elitist.

    And too lazy to even read stuff. I don't wonder anymore. lol Hope this comment didn't stress you out kiddo. Good luck in life.

    Oh btw, it's "imbalance" not "dissbalance" there's no such thing as "dissbalance". ROFLOL

    PS

    Bare in mind that this is a video game nonetheless. What you do here never equates to being a hard worker in the real world. lol you silly goose . >.<

    "Btw when trials was scaled to v14 and max lv was v16 many times top 100 leaderboard was open at the end of the week"

    1.) it's "trials WERE scaled" not "was".

    2.) you are wrong, I was in a progression group then, and we seldom got a spot on leaderboards. I believe I only got two or three rewards out of those. There are still people who do trials regardless.

    This is silly how easy is to know who is lazy. Everytime You'll be agaisnt making the game easy mode they'll call You selfish :wink: Greaing procces in ESO is easy and very friendly for people who dont have much real life time , but You cant demand from game to set You in-pair with people who puts more efford into gearing up. Sorry they need to be rewarded but You want them to wear crafted setup just like You. You're really selfish and lazy also.

    But crafted gear isn't as valuable as loot only gear. I still use my Master's Bow now at v14(cp140) in PvP, and doing just fine. I still get to PvP leaderboards when I focus on PvPing more. That's how valuable drop loot drops are-- they are still functional even if you've out-leveled them. No, I am not being selfish and lazy, I am trying to be considerate to people who aren't as lucky as you and I, who have the luxury to be able to play longer hours. Again, this is a game, MMO RPG or not, yeah I agree people who complete difficult content should be rewarded, but other than the fact that you just want to boast how good you are at video games to others, I can't think of any other reason why we can't craft jewelry. I mean, if you really want to argue that crafting jewelry is making the game easy mode, then I'd argue to just drop crafting anything at all. Let's just have everything loot only; gear, weapons, food, drinks, potions, everything!
    "We're heroes, my boon companion, and heroes always win! Let that be a lesson to you."
    -Caldwell, "The Final Assault"

    "There is always a choice. But you don't get to choose what is true, you only get to choose what you will do about it..."

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  • juhasman
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    No, I don't support jewelry crafting.
    PlagueMonk wrote: »
    YES, I do fully support adding Jewelrycraft. This was one of the MANY things we were promised (along with things like spellcrafting)

    And to those who say "it would make some things OPed!", I would say you don't know what you are talking about. It would just give us the option to move some pieces onto jewelry for a bit more versatility and to upgrade our blue/purple pieces. BIG ****** deal. Do you know how small the bonus from purple to gold is? Hardly worth it but people want that extra 1-2%. You "NO" people seem to think that we would be able to suddenly craft Archmage or other FOUND set pieces. Get a clue.

    PLUS, this is not going to be only available to a few so if EVERYONE can have/do it, how is it "OPed"?

    At this point however I would be MORE than happy with just being able to simply break down all of the freakin' jewelry I get, instead of being forced to sell it for a few measly gold.

    I would say You dont know what You're talking about. Belive me every person who choosed ,,No" knows that it wouldnt be found sets with crafted jewelery. You dont understand meaning of OP. Fact that everyone could wear the same setup doesnt mean it wouldnt be OP. Some combinations of crafted sets would be performing VERY well maybe even outperforming dropped sets and it would take 5 minutes to get them. We would be able to create PvP builds with great sustain and dmg (julianos+seducer) for PvE we would be able to make builds that could almost reach current BiS droppable setups (julianos+TBS/Night mother+TBS) with desired traits, pieces and armor types and all of this in 5 minutes. That's OP.
  • Elara_Northwind
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    Yes, I support jewelry crafting.
    I would love to be able to craft jewellery. Even if they currently are not, crafted items should be better than dropped items anyway, thats why everybody spends months learning all of the traits, no? :wink: Crafting seems pointless if the best things are all picked up, so pehaps it would actually be good in the sense that people will start to use crafted sets once more :blush:

    I very much doubt it will be that simple anyway, if they do introduce it... The materials are very unlikely to be easy to come by, judging by everything else in this game, it will be allot of grinding... :lol:
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  • juhasman
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    No, I don't support jewelry crafting.
    me_ming wrote: »
    juhasman wrote: »
    me_ming wrote: »
    juhasman wrote: »
    me_ming wrote: »
    juhasman wrote: »
    I am done with this pointless discussion. I am not fan of Zenimax but I must admit they created good working and healthy gearing mechanic. Fact they dont even have a plans to change during 2 years of the game so it's abvious crafting jewelery will not come. Atm only things Zenimax doing is improving present mechanic what shows that my theory is right.I think if i would dig in ESO life episodes I would even found moment where devs said they dont have jewelery crafting in plans. So keep dreaming all lazy people. Cheers.

    You sir (or ma'am) are selfish.

    Some people who don't grind trials/dungeons/whatever aren't lazy. Some people who have real life job and family work more than they play a video game. Now, you may have the luxury to play all day long, but others are living in the real world trying to make ends meet. Is that how you define laziness? Some of these people who have real life events going on just want to have decent gear too, so when they do play with people like yourself won't have to endure getting rage /tells from you when you're accidentally grouped with them. You can still have your legendary drops from trials/dungeons/what-nots, and they are still much desired. But for the mean time being able to craft gear/weapons (and hopefully jewelry) and especially being able to upgrade that to legendary status will help some players to be at least at par with full-time gamers like yourself.

    BTW, I have had my fair share in the leaderboards both PvP and PvE, and I've had legendary weapons/jewelry rewards. But I have friends who play every now and again, because they are more busy than me. I don't see why they can't craft their jewelries so that can be competitive too.

    People will still do trials, whether there are craft-able jewelry sets. People have been doing trials when they were still scaled to v14 and all you get are v14 Legendary Vicious Ophidia necklaces and rings, it's not just about the jewelry sets you get being in the leaderboards. I dare say that sometimes, it's only about seeing your name in those leaderboards that matter. Admit it you're one of those people who really doesn't care anymore about the drops, you just want your name to be seen.

    I dont even have a will to answer that long and pointless speech. Just read my other posts here where i define what laziness means in ESO for me. And keep in mind this is MMO RPG and You want to get everything instant and be in-pair with people who work on top gear much longer so something isnt right here.
    EDITED: I am not even doing weekly trials due to fact i dont care about beeing on leaderboards if i dont get any profits for it and atm weekly trials leaderboards dont give profits , because MoL sets are not so good for my characters so You missed in this one a lot. Btw when trials was scaled to v14 and max lv was v16 many times top 100 leaderboard was open at the end of the week , and many groups in leaderboards was just new players who was doing it 2nd or 3rd time in life.

    Selfish and elitist.

    And too lazy to even read stuff. I don't wonder anymore. lol Hope this comment didn't stress you out kiddo. Good luck in life.

    Oh btw, it's "imbalance" not "dissbalance" there's no such thing as "dissbalance". ROFLOL

    PS

    Bare in mind that this is a video game nonetheless. What you do here never equates to being a hard worker in the real world. lol you silly goose . >.<

    "Btw when trials was scaled to v14 and max lv was v16 many times top 100 leaderboard was open at the end of the week"

    1.) it's "trials WERE scaled" not "was".

    2.) you are wrong, I was in a progression group then, and we seldom got a spot on leaderboards. I believe I only got two or three rewards out of those. There are still people who do trials regardless.

    This is silly how easy is to know who is lazy. Everytime You'll be agaisnt making the game easy mode they'll call You selfish :wink: Greaing procces in ESO is easy and very friendly for people who dont have much real life time , but You cant demand from game to set You in-pair with people who puts more efford into gearing up. Sorry they need to be rewarded but You want them to wear crafted setup just like You. You're really selfish and lazy also.

    But crafted gear isn't as valuable as loot only gear. I still use my Master's Bow now at v14(cp140) in PvP, and doing just fine. I still get to PvP leaderboards when I focus on PvPing more. That's how valuable drop loot drops are-- they are still functional even if you've out-leveled them. No, I am not being selfish and lazy, I am trying to be considerate to people who aren't as lucky as you and I, who have the luxury to be able to play longer hours. Again, this is a game, MMO RPG or not, yeah I agree people who complete difficult content should be rewarded, but other than the fact that you just want to boast how good you are at video games to others, I can't think of any other reason why we can't craft jewelry. I mean, if you really want to argue that crafting jewelry is making the game easy mode, then I'd argue to just drop crafting anything at all. Let's just have everything loot only; gear, weapons, food, drinks, potions, everything!

    Master/maelstorm weapons seriously? You give an example of item taking 1-2 slots from all 11-12 as a prove that droppable gear is better? Yes master/maelstorms are valuable but can be exchanged. Especially that crafted enchants are not that bad atm so You can craft weapon, enchant it and wear some 1 piece of montser set which You can buy from Cyrodill vendor. Also since next update maelstorms will have 100% drop rate. What makes masters/maelstorm that valueable is also fact there is no jewelery crafting so You need them to have BiS setup. With jewelery crafting things would change.
    Edited by juhasman on July 27, 2016 12:32AM
  • Vaoh
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    Yes, I support jewelry crafting.
    Wish I could change my vote.

    Tokens to buy jewels will cost 1K crowns each.
    Tokens to craft jewelry in armor sets will cost 3K crowns each.
    Tokens to craft 3 pieces of jewelry will be discounted in a bundle for only 5K crowns.

    Realistically, Jewelcrafting would be awesome but not something to squeeze $$$ from us or it'd be P2W (they literally cannot make it cost crowns). You have another 1+ years of waiting before it's considered due to this :/
    Edited by Vaoh on July 27, 2016 12:32AM
  • juhasman
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    No, I don't support jewelry crafting.
    Doncellius wrote: »
    Wish I could change my vote.

    Tokens to buy jewels will cost 1K crowns each.
    Tokens to craft jewelry in armor sets will cost 3K crowns each.
    Tokens to craft 3 pieces of jewelry will be discounted in a bundle for only 5K crowns.

    Realistically, Jewelcrafting would be awesome but not something to squeeze $$$ from us or it'd be P2W (they literally cannot make it cost crowns). You have another 1+ years of waiting before it's considered due to this :/

    Another person who readed about race/name change and loosed faith :smile:
  • Ch4mpTW
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    Yes, I support jewelry crafting.
    Doncellius wrote: »
    Wish I could change my vote.

    Tokens to buy jewels will cost 1K crowns each.
    Tokens to craft jewelry in armor sets will cost 3K crowns each.
    Tokens to craft 3 pieces of jewelry will be discounted in a bundle for only 5K crowns.

    Realistically, Jewelcrafting would be awesome but not something to squeeze $$$ from us or it'd be P2W (they literally cannot make it cost crowns). You have another 1+ years of waiting before it's considered due to this :/

    Lol, it'll be fine. Trust me, comrade. Uncle Champ is gonna have your back, @Doncellius :p
  • Vaoh
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    Yes, I support jewelry crafting.
    Ch4mpTW wrote: »
    Doncellius wrote: »
    Wish I could change my vote.

    Tokens to buy jewels will cost 1K crowns each.
    Tokens to craft jewelry in armor sets will cost 3K crowns each.
    Tokens to craft 3 pieces of jewelry will be discounted in a bundle for only 5K crowns.

    Realistically, Jewelcrafting would be awesome but not something to squeeze $$$ from us or it'd be P2W (they literally cannot make it cost crowns). You have another 1+ years of waiting before it's considered due to this :/

    Lol, it'll be fine. Trust me, comrade. Uncle Champ is gonna have your back, @Doncellius :p

    Yeah I know. It's just going to take forever to come. Spellcrafting comes 1st quarter 2017 - 2nd quarter 2017 but look when that was announced!

    Jewelcrafting has a long way to go.

    I'm not very happy with ZOS atm. Those Style Parlor prices..... will never forgive them.
  • me_ming
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    Yes, I support jewelry crafting.
    juhasman wrote: »
    PlagueMonk wrote: »
    YES, I do fully support adding Jewelrycraft. This was one of the MANY things we were promised (along with things like spellcrafting)

    And to those who say "it would make some things OPed!", I would say you don't know what you are talking about. It would just give us the option to move some pieces onto jewelry for a bit more versatility and to upgrade our blue/purple pieces. BIG ****** deal. Do you know how small the bonus from purple to gold is? Hardly worth it but people want that extra 1-2%. You "NO" people seem to think that we would be able to suddenly craft Archmage or other FOUND set pieces. Get a clue.

    PLUS, this is not going to be only available to a few so if EVERYONE can have/do it, how is it "OPed"?

    At this point however I would be MORE than happy with just being able to simply break down all of the freakin' jewelry I get, instead of being forced to sell it for a few measly gold.

    I would say You dont know what You're talking about. Belive me every person who choosed ,,No" knows that it wouldnt be found sets with crafted jewelery. You dont understand meaning of OP. Fact that everyone could wear the same setup doesnt mean it wouldnt be OP. Some combinations of crafted sets would be performing VERY well maybe even outperforming dropped sets and it would take 5 minutes to get them. We would be able to create PvP builds with great sustain and dmg (julianos+seducer) for PvE we would be able to make builds that could almost reach current BiS droppable setups (julianos+TBS/Night mother+TBS) with desired traits, pieces and armor types and all of this in 5 minutes. That's OP.

    Ok, I'm pretty sure you don't play PvP more. There are already builds at the moment that has high sustain and DPS, with CP. lol. I know a Nightblade with Shield Breaker + Maelstrom 2h + Agi jewelries (I forgot what his two other sets were), with 3k weapon damage and 2.5k stam recovery.
    juhasman wrote: »
    me_ming wrote: »
    juhasman wrote: »
    me_ming wrote: »
    juhasman wrote: »
    me_ming wrote: »
    juhasman wrote: »
    I am done with this pointless discussion. I am not fan of Zenimax but I must admit they created good working and healthy gearing mechanic. Fact they dont even have a plans to change during 2 years of the game so it's abvious crafting jewelery will not come. Atm only things Zenimax doing is improving present mechanic what shows that my theory is right.I think if i would dig in ESO life episodes I would even found moment where devs said they dont have jewelery crafting in plans. So keep dreaming all lazy people. Cheers.

    You sir (or ma'am) are selfish.

    Some people who don't grind trials/dungeons/whatever aren't lazy. Some people who have real life job and family work more than they play a video game. Now, you may have the luxury to play all day long, but others are living in the real world trying to make ends meet. Is that how you define laziness? Some of these people who have real life events going on just want to have decent gear too, so when they do play with people like yourself won't have to endure getting rage /tells from you when you're accidentally grouped with them. You can still have your legendary drops from trials/dungeons/what-nots, and they are still much desired. But for the mean time being able to craft gear/weapons (and hopefully jewelry) and especially being able to upgrade that to legendary status will help some players to be at least at par with full-time gamers like yourself.

    BTW, I have had my fair share in the leaderboards both PvP and PvE, and I've had legendary weapons/jewelry rewards. But I have friends who play every now and again, because they are more busy than me. I don't see why they can't craft their jewelries so that can be competitive too.

    People will still do trials, whether there are craft-able jewelry sets. People have been doing trials when they were still scaled to v14 and all you get are v14 Legendary Vicious Ophidia necklaces and rings, it's not just about the jewelry sets you get being in the leaderboards. I dare say that sometimes, it's only about seeing your name in those leaderboards that matter. Admit it you're one of those people who really doesn't care anymore about the drops, you just want your name to be seen.

    I dont even have a will to answer that long and pointless speech. Just read my other posts here where i define what laziness means in ESO for me. And keep in mind this is MMO RPG and You want to get everything instant and be in-pair with people who work on top gear much longer so something isnt right here.
    EDITED: I am not even doing weekly trials due to fact i dont care about beeing on leaderboards if i dont get any profits for it and atm weekly trials leaderboards dont give profits , because MoL sets are not so good for my characters so You missed in this one a lot. Btw when trials was scaled to v14 and max lv was v16 many times top 100 leaderboard was open at the end of the week , and many groups in leaderboards was just new players who was doing it 2nd or 3rd time in life.

    Selfish and elitist.

    And too lazy to even read stuff. I don't wonder anymore. lol Hope this comment didn't stress you out kiddo. Good luck in life.

    Oh btw, it's "imbalance" not "dissbalance" there's no such thing as "dissbalance". ROFLOL

    PS

    Bare in mind that this is a video game nonetheless. What you do here never equates to being a hard worker in the real world. lol you silly goose . >.<

    "Btw when trials was scaled to v14 and max lv was v16 many times top 100 leaderboard was open at the end of the week"

    1.) it's "trials WERE scaled" not "was".

    2.) you are wrong, I was in a progression group then, and we seldom got a spot on leaderboards. I believe I only got two or three rewards out of those. There are still people who do trials regardless.

    This is silly how easy is to know who is lazy. Everytime You'll be agaisnt making the game easy mode they'll call You selfish :wink: Greaing procces in ESO is easy and very friendly for people who dont have much real life time , but You cant demand from game to set You in-pair with people who puts more efford into gearing up. Sorry they need to be rewarded but You want them to wear crafted setup just like You. You're really selfish and lazy also.

    But crafted gear isn't as valuable as loot only gear. I still use my Master's Bow now at v14(cp140) in PvP, and doing just fine. I still get to PvP leaderboards when I focus on PvPing more. That's how valuable drop loot drops are-- they are still functional even if you've out-leveled them. No, I am not being selfish and lazy, I am trying to be considerate to people who aren't as lucky as you and I, who have the luxury to be able to play longer hours. Again, this is a game, MMO RPG or not, yeah I agree people who complete difficult content should be rewarded, but other than the fact that you just want to boast how good you are at video games to others, I can't think of any other reason why we can't craft jewelry. I mean, if you really want to argue that crafting jewelry is making the game easy mode, then I'd argue to just drop crafting anything at all. Let's just have everything loot only; gear, weapons, food, drinks, potions, everything!

    Master/maelstorm weapons seriously? You give an example of item taking 1-2 slot from all 11-12 as a prove that droppable gear is better? Especially that crafted enchants are not that bad atm so You can craft weapon enchant it and wear some 1 piece of montser set which You can buy from Cyrodill vendor. Also since next update maelstorms will have 100% drop rate.

    Yes seriously. I would not use Maelstrom bow in PvP, I use Master's. And since you didn't get my point, I'll explain it to you (if you're not too lazy to read), the point was that drop loots are still desirable, even at cp140. You can use some of them and still be effective. Whereas if I use a cp140 julianos vs a cp160, there would be a huge gap in stats, yes? And why would I want to to change the enchant of my Master's Bow? I use it because of the special enchant it has.
    Edited by me_ming on July 27, 2016 12:43AM
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    -Abnur Tharn, "God of Schemes"]
  • Vangy
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    Yes, I support jewelry crafting.
    juhasman wrote: »
    Vangy wrote: »
    Im still looking for anyone to give me a clear cut example of how jewellery crafting with double crafted sets is going to beat something like 5 ophidian, 2 monster set, 3 agility + 2 vMA weapons. Everyone crying about jewellery crafting due to reasons like it will kill build diversity and be OP fail to realise that build diversity is ALREADY dead. Every end game build is litreally running the same jack *** sets. 5 hundings and 5 TBS is never going to beat the above combination of dropped sets the same way kags is never gona beat SPC for healer.

    Well You dont know how to beat 5 ophidian 3 agility and 2 monsters? It's easy- craft 5 TBS and wear 5 TBS 5 ophidian and maelstorm weapons.This is current meta for stam users. With jewelery crafting just wear 5TBS ,5 night mother/hunding and You'll have dps little smaller then with ophidian but You'll need to spend MUCH less time to gear up. That doesnt sound fair that I would need to spend many hours to get BiS items only to get my PvE dps 5% better.

    Yeah u STILL need ophidian with a crafted set to be better dude. So what exactly about getting ophidian is lazy? You are cherry picking now. You were saying wearing 2 sets of crafted armour will be better and now you are mixing and matching. *** you trying to say?

    Also 5% is a very small ballpark number. I cant verify until I actually get to try it out. And Even then, BIS is BIS even at 5%. What's wrong with that? Plus you loose the amazing utility that comes with ophidian... Hundings or night mothers can never compete with that. It just sounds like you want people to suffer just cos you have the time to grind. And it also sounds like u dont enjoy grinding but just do it for the sake of drops. Therein lies the problem itself.

    Edited by Vangy on July 27, 2016 1:28AM
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  • Ch4mpTW
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    Yes, I support jewelry crafting.
    Doncellius wrote: »
    Ch4mpTW wrote: »
    Doncellius wrote: »
    Wish I could change my vote.

    Tokens to buy jewels will cost 1K crowns each.
    Tokens to craft jewelry in armor sets will cost 3K crowns each.
    Tokens to craft 3 pieces of jewelry will be discounted in a bundle for only 5K crowns.

    Realistically, Jewelcrafting would be awesome but not something to squeeze $$$ from us or it'd be P2W (they literally cannot make it cost crowns). You have another 1+ years of waiting before it's considered due to this :/

    Lol, it'll be fine. Trust me, comrade. Uncle Champ is gonna have your back, @Doncellius :p

    Yeah I know. It's just going to take forever to come. Spellcrafting comes 1st quarter 2017 - 2nd quarter 2017 but look when that was announced!

    Jewelcrafting has a long way to go.

    I'm not very happy with ZOS atm. Those Style Parlor prices..... will never forgive them.

    Agreed, and I don't blame you. Those prices are outrageous. I was in pretty ticked off about it myself, and then I saw that VMA will have a 100% weapon drop chance. And things got instantly brighter. Then as a alley-oop dunk, @ZOS_RichLambert confirmed VDSA weapons will have a 100% drop as well. So all hope is not closed, friend. :)
  • Travy_2Hype
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    Yes, I support jewelry crafting.
    Can make everything else that goes onto your body; armor, shield, weapons - why not jewelry. Makes sense to me!
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  • juhasman
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    No, I don't support jewelry crafting.
    me_ming wrote: »
    juhasman wrote: »
    PlagueMonk wrote: »
    YES, I do fully support adding Jewelrycraft. This was one of the MANY things we were promised (along with things like spellcrafting)

    And to those who say "it would make some things OPed!", I would say you don't know what you are talking about. It would just give us the option to move some pieces onto jewelry for a bit more versatility and to upgrade our blue/purple pieces. BIG ****** deal. Do you know how small the bonus from purple to gold is? Hardly worth it but people want that extra 1-2%. You "NO" people seem to think that we would be able to suddenly craft Archmage or other FOUND set pieces. Get a clue.

    PLUS, this is not going to be only available to a few so if EVERYONE can have/do it, how is it "OPed"?

    At this point however I would be MORE than happy with just being able to simply break down all of the freakin' jewelry I get, instead of being forced to sell it for a few measly gold.

    I would say You dont know what You're talking about. Belive me every person who choosed ,,No" knows that it wouldnt be found sets with crafted jewelery. You dont understand meaning of OP. Fact that everyone could wear the same setup doesnt mean it wouldnt be OP. Some combinations of crafted sets would be performing VERY well maybe even outperforming dropped sets and it would take 5 minutes to get them. We would be able to create PvP builds with great sustain and dmg (julianos+seducer) for PvE we would be able to make builds that could almost reach current BiS droppable setups (julianos+TBS/Night mother+TBS) with desired traits, pieces and armor types and all of this in 5 minutes. That's OP.

    Ok, I'm pretty sure you don't play PvP more. There are already builds at the moment that has high sustain and DPS, with CP. lol. I know a Nightblade with Shield Breaker + Maelstrom 2h + Agi jewelries (I forgot what his two other sets were), with 3k weapon damage and 2.5k stam recovery.
    juhasman wrote: »
    me_ming wrote: »
    juhasman wrote: »
    me_ming wrote: »
    juhasman wrote: »
    me_ming wrote: »
    juhasman wrote: »
    I am done with this pointless discussion. I am not fan of Zenimax but I must admit they created good working and healthy gearing mechanic. Fact they dont even have a plans to change during 2 years of the game so it's abvious crafting jewelery will not come. Atm only things Zenimax doing is improving present mechanic what shows that my theory is right.I think if i would dig in ESO life episodes I would even found moment where devs said they dont have jewelery crafting in plans. So keep dreaming all lazy people. Cheers.

    You sir (or ma'am) are selfish.

    Some people who don't grind trials/dungeons/whatever aren't lazy. Some people who have real life job and family work more than they play a video game. Now, you may have the luxury to play all day long, but others are living in the real world trying to make ends meet. Is that how you define laziness? Some of these people who have real life events going on just want to have decent gear too, so when they do play with people like yourself won't have to endure getting rage /tells from you when you're accidentally grouped with them. You can still have your legendary drops from trials/dungeons/what-nots, and they are still much desired. But for the mean time being able to craft gear/weapons (and hopefully jewelry) and especially being able to upgrade that to legendary status will help some players to be at least at par with full-time gamers like yourself.

    BTW, I have had my fair share in the leaderboards both PvP and PvE, and I've had legendary weapons/jewelry rewards. But I have friends who play every now and again, because they are more busy than me. I don't see why they can't craft their jewelries so that can be competitive too.

    People will still do trials, whether there are craft-able jewelry sets. People have been doing trials when they were still scaled to v14 and all you get are v14 Legendary Vicious Ophidia necklaces and rings, it's not just about the jewelry sets you get being in the leaderboards. I dare say that sometimes, it's only about seeing your name in those leaderboards that matter. Admit it you're one of those people who really doesn't care anymore about the drops, you just want your name to be seen.

    I dont even have a will to answer that long and pointless speech. Just read my other posts here where i define what laziness means in ESO for me. And keep in mind this is MMO RPG and You want to get everything instant and be in-pair with people who work on top gear much longer so something isnt right here.
    EDITED: I am not even doing weekly trials due to fact i dont care about beeing on leaderboards if i dont get any profits for it and atm weekly trials leaderboards dont give profits , because MoL sets are not so good for my characters so You missed in this one a lot. Btw when trials was scaled to v14 and max lv was v16 many times top 100 leaderboard was open at the end of the week , and many groups in leaderboards was just new players who was doing it 2nd or 3rd time in life.

    Selfish and elitist.

    And too lazy to even read stuff. I don't wonder anymore. lol Hope this comment didn't stress you out kiddo. Good luck in life.

    Oh btw, it's "imbalance" not "dissbalance" there's no such thing as "dissbalance". ROFLOL

    PS

    Bare in mind that this is a video game nonetheless. What you do here never equates to being a hard worker in the real world. lol you silly goose . >.<

    "Btw when trials was scaled to v14 and max lv was v16 many times top 100 leaderboard was open at the end of the week"

    1.) it's "trials WERE scaled" not "was".

    2.) you are wrong, I was in a progression group then, and we seldom got a spot on leaderboards. I believe I only got two or three rewards out of those. There are still people who do trials regardless.

    This is silly how easy is to know who is lazy. Everytime You'll be agaisnt making the game easy mode they'll call You selfish :wink: Greaing procces in ESO is easy and very friendly for people who dont have much real life time , but You cant demand from game to set You in-pair with people who puts more efford into gearing up. Sorry they need to be rewarded but You want them to wear crafted setup just like You. You're really selfish and lazy also.

    But crafted gear isn't as valuable as loot only gear. I still use my Master's Bow now at v14(cp140) in PvP, and doing just fine. I still get to PvP leaderboards when I focus on PvPing more. That's how valuable drop loot drops are-- they are still functional even if you've out-leveled them. No, I am not being selfish and lazy, I am trying to be considerate to people who aren't as lucky as you and I, who have the luxury to be able to play longer hours. Again, this is a game, MMO RPG or not, yeah I agree people who complete difficult content should be rewarded, but other than the fact that you just want to boast how good you are at video games to others, I can't think of any other reason why we can't craft jewelry. I mean, if you really want to argue that crafting jewelry is making the game easy mode, then I'd argue to just drop crafting anything at all. Let's just have everything loot only; gear, weapons, food, drinks, potions, everything!

    Master/maelstorm weapons seriously? You give an example of item taking 1-2 slot from all 11-12 as a prove that droppable gear is better? Especially that crafted enchants are not that bad atm so You can craft weapon enchant it and wear some 1 piece of montser set which You can buy from Cyrodill vendor. Also since next update maelstorms will have 100% drop rate.

    Yes seriously. I would not use Maelstrom bow in PvP, I use Master's. And since you didn't get my point, I'll explain it to you (if you're not too lazy to read), the point was that drop loots are still desirable, even at cp140. You can use some of them and still be effective. Whereas if I use a cp140 julianos vs a cp160, there would be a huge gap in stats, yes? And why would I want to to change the enchant of my Master's Bow? I use it because of the special enchant it has.

    I know masters maelstorms are usefull even on 140 cp but this are uniqre things taking ONLY 1-2 SLOTS. All 10-11 left you would be able to fill with crafted pieces. This sounds ballanced for You? For me dont. And belive me master bow is overadvertised. You cant quick swap after using poison injection because You need to wait 1 sec to let poison injection apply dot and that start to give additional wep dmg on 2nd bar when in the same time during that 1 second gap i can burst enemie down. Also i can put enchant increasing my wep dmg by more then master bow gives and shot enemie with light/heavy attack+ poison injection and have poison on 2nd bar what many times gives better results. I play PvP but setup You mentioned (shieldbreaker, agility, maelstorm) is a bad example. You can collect tel vars required to buy shieldbreaker in 10 minutes and gold required to buy agility jewlery in 3 hours. Also with crafted jewelery You would be able to easy create similar or even stronger setup. When i am talking about droppable sets I think about BoP items so dont give me examples of sets that You can buy. Fact there is a lot of tradable droppable sets only proves my theory that people are lazy calling for jewelery crafting when they easy get many droppable sets after farming gold by a very short period of time so only adventage that droppable sets have for now are BoP items with jewelery and You want to completly destroy that adventahe by being too lazy to farm BoP items.Masters and maelstorms will not give droppable BoP items enough adventage to create healthy ballance agaisnt craftable jewelery especially that starting from update 11 we'll have tradable BoP items and 100% drop chance for masters and maelstorms. So selfishness and laziness of jewelery crafting fans still confirmed.
    Edited by juhasman on July 27, 2016 11:43AM
  • juhasman
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    No, I don't support jewelry crafting.
    Vangy wrote: »
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    Im still looking for anyone to give me a clear cut example of how jewellery crafting with double crafted sets is going to beat something like 5 ophidian, 2 monster set, 3 agility + 2 vMA weapons. Everyone crying about jewellery crafting due to reasons like it will kill build diversity and be OP fail to realise that build diversity is ALREADY dead. Every end game build is litreally running the same jack *** sets. 5 hundings and 5 TBS is never going to beat the above combination of dropped sets the same way kags is never gona beat SPC for healer.

    Well You dont know how to beat 5 ophidian 3 agility and 2 monsters? It's easy- craft 5 TBS and wear 5 TBS 5 ophidian and maelstorm weapons.This is current meta for stam users. With jewelery crafting just wear 5TBS ,5 night mother/hunding and You'll have dps little smaller then with ophidian but You'll need to spend MUCH less time to gear up. That doesnt sound fair that I would need to spend many hours to get BiS items only to get my PvE dps 5% better.

    Yeah u STILL need ophidian with a crafted set to be better dude. So what exactly about getting ophidian is lazy? You are cherry picking now. You were saying wearing 2 sets of crafted armour will be better and now you are mixing and matching. *** you trying to say?

    Also 5% is a very small ballpark number. I cant verify until I actually get to try it out. And Even then, BIS is BIS even at 5%. What's wrong with that? Plus you loose the amazing utility that comes with ophidian... Hundings or night mothers can never compete with that. It just sounds like you want people to suffer just cos you have the time to grind. And it also sounds like u dont enjoy grinding but just do it for the sake of drops. Therein lies the problem itself.

    I did not said that You'll always have better results with crafted sets but that with jewelery crafting You could get a LITTLE SMALLER , similar or SOMETIMES better results comparing to droppable setups. About that certain setup mentioned in quoted phrase - Yes ophidian gives better utility but seriously do You need utility at current PvE meta when in group runs You have so good support it's impossible to run out of resources? And 5% isnt enough reward for me due to fact I would need to spend 10000x more time on farming something which will give me that 5% dps more in PvE than just by simply crafting something similar. That doesnt sounds fair.
    Edited by juhasman on July 27, 2016 11:52AM
  • PlagueMonk
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    Yes, I support jewelry crafting.
    juhasman wrote: »
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    YES, I do fully support adding Jewelrycraft. This was one of the MANY things we were promised (along with things like spellcrafting)

    And to those who say "it would make some things OPed!", I would say you don't know what you are talking about. It would just give us the option to move some pieces onto jewelry for a bit more versatility and to upgrade our blue/purple pieces. BIG ****** deal. Do you know how small the bonus from purple to gold is? Hardly worth it but people want that extra 1-2%. You "NO" people seem to think that we would be able to suddenly craft Archmage or other FOUND set pieces. Get a clue.

    PLUS, this is not going to be only available to a few so if EVERYONE can have/do it, how is it "OPed"?

    At this point however I would be MORE than happy with just being able to simply break down all of the freakin' jewelry I get, instead of being forced to sell it for a few measly gold.

    I would say You dont know what You're talking about. Belive me every person who choosed ,,No" knows that it wouldnt be found sets with crafted jewelery. You dont understand meaning of OP. Fact that everyone could wear the same setup doesnt mean it wouldnt be OP. Some combinations of crafted sets would be performing VERY well maybe even outperforming dropped sets and it would take 5 minutes to get them. We would be able to create PvP builds with great sustain and dmg (julianos+seducer) for PvE we would be able to make builds that could almost reach current BiS droppable setups (julianos+TBS/Night mother+TBS) with desired traits, pieces and armor types and all of this in 5 minutes. That's OP.

    Ok, I'm still not reading ANYTHING that would be considered "OPed" imho. Oh Noes!, you can run Julianos+Seducer! ******* that will make magicka players GODS! well no, because you are not listing the DOWNSIDE to trying to run both. You are all acting as if everyone will be running around with 2, 5 set bonuses, full willpower jewelry, a monster set and full maelstrom weapons..../rolls eyes.

    ****NEWS FLASH***** If you go 2 full, 5 piece sets you only have 1-2 slots left!......so do you not run that 2 piece monster set then? What about those juicy Maelstrom weapons?! (can't have both now!) and then you have to weigh kicking your great willpower set to the curb. You may gain a bit more than you lose but it is not going to become some horribly imbalanced mess as you and other, "sky is falling if we get jewelrycraft" people are claiming.
    Edited by PlagueMonk on July 28, 2016 12:31AM
  • Ch4mpTW
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    Yes, I support jewelry crafting.
    PlagueMonk wrote: »
    juhasman wrote: »
    PlagueMonk wrote: »
    YES, I do fully support adding Jewelrycraft. This was one of the MANY things we were promised (along with things like spellcrafting)

    And to those who say "it would make some things OPed!", I would say you don't know what you are talking about. It would just give us the option to move some pieces onto jewelry for a bit more versatility and to upgrade our blue/purple pieces. BIG ****** deal. Do you know how small the bonus from purple to gold is? Hardly worth it but people want that extra 1-2%. You "NO" people seem to think that we would be able to suddenly craft Archmage or other FOUND set pieces. Get a clue.

    PLUS, this is not going to be only available to a few so if EVERYONE can have/do it, how is it "OPed"?

    At this point however I would be MORE than happy with just being able to simply break down all of the freakin' jewelry I get, instead of being forced to sell it for a few measly gold.

    I would say You dont know what You're talking about. Belive me every person who choosed ,,No" knows that it wouldnt be found sets with crafted jewelery. You dont understand meaning of OP. Fact that everyone could wear the same setup doesnt mean it wouldnt be OP. Some combinations of crafted sets would be performing VERY well maybe even outperforming dropped sets and it would take 5 minutes to get them. We would be able to create PvP builds with great sustain and dmg (julianos+seducer) for PvE we would be able to make builds that could almost reach current BiS droppable setups (julianos+TBS/Night mother+TBS) with desired traits, pieces and armor types and all of this in 5 minutes. That's OP.

    Ok, I'm still not reading ANYTHING that would be considered "OPed" imho. Oh Noes!, you can run Julianos+Seducer! ******* that will make magicka players GODS! well no, because you are not listing the DOWNSIDE to trying to run both. You are all acting as if everyone will be running around with 2, 5 set bonuses, full willpower jewelry, a monster set and full maelstrom weapons..../rolls eyes.

    ****NEWS FLASH***** If you go 2 full, 5 piece sets you only have 1-2 slots left!......so do you not run that 2 piece monster set then? What about those juicy Maelstrom weapons?! (can't have both now!) and then you have to weigh kicking your great willpower set to the curb. You may gain a bit more than you lose but it is not going to become some horribly imbalanced mess as you and other, "sky is falling if we get jewelrycraft" people are claiming.

    The logic is strong here. Very strong. But, I have a strong feeling that it'll be disregarded.
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