Leandor wrote: »

At some point people will realize that subbing is a really sensible choice. Until then I will continue to be amused.

As for the price of race change: They need some way to regulate FOTM rerolling.

Name/appearance change is expensive but then don't name your chars in a way that requires changing later on.

I do agree that race change should include name change though, that promotes and supports lore based names.

But their idea is to make money, if this was something you buy once and keep forever then sure high prices make sense.

But this is someone you pay 3k crowns for and can use once on 1 character, it's a consumable.

If they were smart they'd lower the price to cater and promote race swaps and that was make more money.

If it was low enough i'm sure people would actually buy it and even buy more. Some on the more hardcore players may even buy one everytime they change their build.

rudimentxb14_ESO wrote: »

3k? Eh i was going to buy it but, not any more. Those crowns cost way too much.

Not to mention the part you have to pay twice if you want to do a Race/Appearance change then do a Name change!

Rosveen wrote: »

Shadesofkin wrote: »

I just don't get why it's so important to so many players. Unless you were here since Beta with a bad choice, you've had plenty of time to know exactly what would be the right race to choose if you were min/maxing. Any choice you made without investigating it appropriately was your fault, so now you gotta pay for it.

Plus really...not choosing a dunmer? C'mon son.

I don't even want to change my race, but this is absurd. Racial passives have changed since launch and will soon change again. No, at the time of character creation we had no way of knowing what the best races would be in 2016 and beyond. We aren't prophets.

Dunmer, Altmer, Redguard, Imperial...almost identical to what they were in Beta, Launch, and forward.

I'll concede the point, but to me it just seems like a giant waste. Though to be fair, all 8 of my characters are Dragonknights and *only* benefited from the racial passive changes.

Due to the benefits that can be gained in race changes I do not think they should be cheap. It should not be easy (or cheap) to do this but even allowing it makes the game more of a pay to win model.

There is nothing wrong with having to role a new character when you want to try a different race, I do not think it is right to be able to easily switch a CP160 character with stamina racial passives to a magicka race just because you think that your character will be stronger.

We all had bad choices on our first characters because we didn't know the pros and cons of each race or how it would affect us later on (I know my Breton stamina Nightblade was not ideal). We have always dealt with it by rolling new characters and this needs to be the preferred way of doing it.

disintegr8 wrote: »

Due to the benefits that can be gained in race changes I do not think they should be cheap. It should not be easy (or cheap) to do this but even allowing it makes the game more of a pay to win model.

There is nothing wrong with having to role a new character when you want to try a different race, I do not think it is right to be able to easily switch a CP160 character with stamina racial passives to a magicka race just because you think that your character will be stronger.

We all had bad choices on our first characters because we didn't know the pros and cons of each race or how it would affect us later on (I know my Breton stamina Nightblade was not ideal). We have always dealt with it by rolling new characters and this needs to be the preferred way of doing it.

It's not hard to enter credit card information. The race change should charge ingame gold, something like 100k. That's harder to get then giving them your money.

I actually made the right choice for my character back in 1.2. Now that the game has been changed (for the worse) my race is far from ideal for my class now. Why should I have to pay $20 more because somebody at ZOS decided that the 1.5 meta had to change? I payed for this game 2 years ago its like having to buy it again now if I want to change my damn race. They gave free skillpoint resets when they changed a lot of crap why can't they give a free racial change one time?

I agree with the price.

Im sorry, but I for one am against more than one skil/at. point change per month honestly.

To many cry babies wanting to change to the flavor of the month when the "Power" build gets nerfed everyone wants to jump ship to the next big thing.

Unsent.Soul wrote: »

Calidus1 wrote: »

Price should be high to deter people from changing racial passives just to min/max every time they tweek a build. Free markets baby!!

Do you understand what you just typed? Higher prices to deter people. I highly doubt that's the reason.

Lower prices means they'd sell a lot more, people would be more inclined to swap races if it was cheap and a new build they'd like to use has a different race.

I assume you're just being a troll.

I completely agree, if it was cheaper to change race/appearance then more player would end up purchasing, in return they would end up selling more and making more. Especially by those who tweak their builds often.

Tyrion87 wrote: »

Because of that ridiculous pricing, they won't have my money. Again.
If the prices were lower by half, I would consider.
They would earn more money by lowering prices. Then more people would buy cosmetic items from the crown store.
Much more.

I think this goes a lot farther than I would, but my enjoyment of the game doesn't hinge on the race change issue. I think for me the greater issue is the balance of the races specifically, and I'd rather they refine them to a better point, and make race less of an issue than it currently is with respect to tanking, healing, dps, etc. The way I recommend this is by having them add static numbers to all benefits. Instead of Dunmer +fire damage being a percentage, they could make it a +damage amount. Instead of Nord Health bonus being a percentage, they could instead make it +3,500 health. Instead of Altmer magicka regeneration percentages, they could offer +300 magicka recovery. etc etc. The point is by giving these racial bonuses a fixed amount, a player would receive the SAME BENEFIT regardless of class or specification (stam vs. health vs. magicka). If they did this one thing it would instantly make race a much smaller concern. This is what I wish they would do, and quit screwing around with selling races to us in the first place. People picked the race they started with for a reason, often thematic, but sometimes based on a focus. Those with a given racial focus would not lose the reason to do so, but those who picked for theme adverse to racial focus would not be punished for doing so (in some cases despite sweeping changes that ZoS made to the race itself).

I'm paying it. For 3-4 toons.

Price a deterrent? I suppose for the poor. Only shame here is the economic favoritism. Should add some grind for the poor to get race change. Like perfect roe...

Grao wrote: »

I am perfectly fine with race changes being costly.

My problem is, why changing your hair in a game costs as much as getting a hair cut in RL???

Because Virtual Reality is Life!

Firerock2 wrote: »

Funkopotamus wrote: »

I agree with the price.

Im sorry, but I for one am against more than one skil/at. point change per month honestly.

To many cry babies wanting to change to the flavor of the month when the "Power" build gets nerfed everyone wants to jump ship to the next big thing.

I think you really don't understand the situation. 1.6 changed the game completely and made it so that racial passives matter significantly. Before racial passives mattered but you could always gear yourself towards what you were lacking without them. I made my race choice prior to the massive change in 1.6 and now I have a less than ideal racial passive. I'm never going to able to do as much damage or have as much survivability now because I don't have the magicka racial passives.

This isn't about switching to a flavor of the month build. It's about making my character viable for PvP post 1.6 which was months and months ago. Now I have to basically pay for the entire game again if I want to change my race (which I won't). ZOS has refunded skill points in the past after a change to skills. They should give a free race change for the mess called 1.6.

In that time, you could have leveled a whole stable full of alternates...

Grao wrote: »

I am perfectly fine with race changes being costly.

My problem is, why changing your hair in a game costs as much as getting a hair cut in RL???

Yeah, but how many hair stylists let you come back forever, as often as you want, for the price of one haircut? If all you are doing is changing your hair style, you don't buy the Appearance token... You buy the hair pack. Same cost, infinite use.

Changing Name 2.5K!!!! Changing race 3k.......No never. I ll buy the new special edition for 59.99 with all DLCs included its cheaper

leepalmer95 wrote: »

Race change 3k crowns... really.

The ability to change your race is priced more than your dlc's.

Says a lot.

3k because hopefully it works properly, without bugs.

Oh wait, maybe u changed to bosmer and wake up as a big fat argonian xD

Race or name change is something you are not supposed to do everyday based of your whim.