In MMO's it's dropable gear or gear from special vendors should be the best and crafted items shoudl not be even close to that gear.
You are not an authority on what a game "should" be like. This is not a traditional MMO, and Zeni has flatly stated that they want the game to accessible and rewarding to more casual players. Jewelry crafting would be aligned with this, while still having the more powerful 1,2 and 3 piece bonus sets drop by RNG for end game progression gear.
Even if this were a traditional MMO, your vision of what a game "should" be are too rigid. Farming and grinding for gear =/= content.
Quoting fragment out of context. NICE!
EDITED: Btw I express my private opinion so using words like should is totally acceptable IN MY OPINION.
Is it fair to say that you're just trolling now, or trying to rile people up? Lol.
I am just expressing my private opinion about jewelery crafting idea. If it's rile people up that's their problem. I just dont like when someone is quoting a fragment of bigger speech and commenting it like phrases before and after that quoted one would not exist or when someone tell me which words i can or cannot use when I am sharing with my private opinion.
Full jewelry crafting? No.
Jewelry quality improvement? Yes.
Have intricate and ornate gear deconstruction have a small chance to drop Polished Material. Applying 5 PM to a jewelry piece improves it to the next level, respectively.
Chance for crafted set jewelry to randomly drop in equipment writ rewards? Yes.
Finally allows for two simultaneous crafted sets while stimulating the economy with new desirable items.
But why would i care to get those things if i can make my own gold jewelery in 5 minutes? And non-crafted doesnt mean not improvable , so i can drop purple in many easier ways and improve it. Because if You want to argue that non-crafted would not be improvable that would be even more stupid.
UltimaJoe777 wrote: »
But why would i care to get those things if i can make my own gold jewelery in 5 minutes? And non-crafted doesnt mean not improvable , so i can drop purple in many easier ways and improve it. Because if You want to argue that non-crafted would not be improvable that would be even more stupid.
They will never make ALL sets in the game craftable, so dropped sets will always have merit.
UltimaJoe777 wrote: »
But why would i care to get those things if i can make my own gold jewelery in 5 minutes? And non-crafted doesnt mean not improvable , so i can drop purple in many easier ways and improve it. Because if You want to argue that non-crafted would not be improvable that would be even more stupid.
They will never make ALL sets in the game craftable, so dropped sets will always have merit.
You not understand things You're quoting. I was talking about improving jewelery to legendary quality in this particular conversation. What i said is why would i bother to drop golden jewelery from vet trials or leaderboards if i can make crafted gold jewelery or even improve purple droped jewelery.
I understand why some wouldn't want it..........
..... but I don't care man. That would be so nice. With jewelry and weapon you have 11 slots, 12 if you dual-wield or have a shield. That's an easy 2 crafted set bonuses.
If you wanna make it balanced make the earned stuff better, I'm all for that. But crafted jewelry would be a good fix for those of us who's lives are to busy for grinding. Sure, reward more those who grind, but let me have the weaker/simpler option so I am at least adequate.
I love this version, so long as jewelry cannot be made golden.Full jewelry crafting? No.
Jewelry quality improvement? Yes.
Have intricate and ornate gear deconstruction have a small chance to drop Polished Material. Applying 5 PM to a jewelry piece improves it to the next level, respectively.
Chance for crafted set jewelry to randomly drop in equipment writ rewards? Yes.
Finally allows for two simultaneous crafted sets while stimulating the economy with new desirable items.
UltimaJoe777 wrote: »UltimaJoe777 wrote: »
But why would i care to get those things if i can make my own gold jewelery in 5 minutes? And non-crafted doesnt mean not improvable , so i can drop purple in many easier ways and improve it. Because if You want to argue that non-crafted would not be improvable that would be even more stupid.
They will never make ALL sets in the game craftable, so dropped sets will always have merit.
You not understand things You're quoting. I was talking about improving jewelery to legendary quality in this particular conversation. What i said is why would i bother to drop golden jewelery from vet trials or leaderboards if i can make crafted gold jewelery or even improve purple droped jewelery.
"But why would i care to get those things if i can make my own gold jewelery in 5 minutes?" is what I was replying to lol sorry if quoting the whole post confused you.
UltimaJoe777 wrote: »UltimaJoe777 wrote: »
But why would i care to get those things if i can make my own gold jewelery in 5 minutes? And non-crafted doesnt mean not improvable , so i can drop purple in many easier ways and improve it. Because if You want to argue that non-crafted would not be improvable that would be even more stupid.
They will never make ALL sets in the game craftable, so dropped sets will always have merit.
You not understand things You're quoting. I was talking about improving jewelery to legendary quality in this particular conversation. What i said is why would i bother to drop golden jewelery from vet trials or leaderboards if i can make crafted gold jewelery or even improve purple droped jewelery.
"But why would i care to get those things if i can make my own gold jewelery in 5 minutes?" is what I was replying to lol sorry if quoting the whole post confused you.
Just read my discussion with @Acrolas since the beggining not starting from the middle.... If You'll atill not get the point that means You're bad in understanding what people saying.
UltimaJoe777 wrote: »UltimaJoe777 wrote: »UltimaJoe777 wrote: »
But why would i care to get those things if i can make my own gold jewelery in 5 minutes? And non-crafted doesnt mean not improvable , so i can drop purple in many easier ways and improve it. Because if You want to argue that non-crafted would not be improvable that would be even more stupid.
They will never make ALL sets in the game craftable, so dropped sets will always have merit.
You not understand things You're quoting. I was talking about improving jewelery to legendary quality in this particular conversation. What i said is why would i bother to drop golden jewelery from vet trials or leaderboards if i can make crafted gold jewelery or even improve purple droped jewelery.
"But why would i care to get those things if i can make my own gold jewelery in 5 minutes?" is what I was replying to lol sorry if quoting the whole post confused you.
Just read my discussion with @Acrolas since the beggining not starting from the middle.... If You'll atill not get the point that means You're bad in understanding what people saying.
I would, but the grammar is barely readable.
UltimaJoe777 wrote: »UltimaJoe777 wrote: »UltimaJoe777 wrote: »
But why would i care to get those things if i can make my own gold jewelery in 5 minutes? And non-crafted doesnt mean not improvable , so i can drop purple in many easier ways and improve it. Because if You want to argue that non-crafted would not be improvable that would be even more stupid.
They will never make ALL sets in the game craftable, so dropped sets will always have merit.
You not understand things You're quoting. I was talking about improving jewelery to legendary quality in this particular conversation. What i said is why would i bother to drop golden jewelery from vet trials or leaderboards if i can make crafted gold jewelery or even improve purple droped jewelery.
"But why would i care to get those things if i can make my own gold jewelery in 5 minutes?" is what I was replying to lol sorry if quoting the whole post confused you.
Just read my discussion with @Acrolas since the beggining not starting from the middle.... If You'll atill not get the point that means You're bad in understanding what people saying.
I would, but the grammar is barely readable.
The meaning of this phrase was why would i care of going on vet trial to get golden jewelery and invest lot of time in this if i can craft gold jewelery from one of the crefted sets or (next phrase) i can improve purple droped one to gold quality.
UltimaJoe777 wrote: »UltimaJoe777 wrote: »UltimaJoe777 wrote: »UltimaJoe777 wrote: »
But why would i care to get those things if i can make my own gold jewelery in 5 minutes? And non-crafted doesnt mean not improvable , so i can drop purple in many easier ways and improve it. Because if You want to argue that non-crafted would not be improvable that would be even more stupid.
They will never make ALL sets in the game craftable, so dropped sets will always have merit.
You not understand things You're quoting. I was talking about improving jewelery to legendary quality in this particular conversation. What i said is why would i bother to drop golden jewelery from vet trials or leaderboards if i can make crafted gold jewelery or even improve purple droped jewelery.
"But why would i care to get those things if i can make my own gold jewelery in 5 minutes?" is what I was replying to lol sorry if quoting the whole post confused you.
Just read my discussion with @Acrolas since the beggining not starting from the middle.... If You'll atill not get the point that means You're bad in understanding what people saying.
I would, but the grammar is barely readable.
The meaning of this phrase was why would i care of going on vet trial to get golden jewelery and invest lot of time in this if i can craft gold jewelery from one of the crefted sets or (next phrase) i can improve purple droped one to gold quality.
And the answer is because dropped sets and crafted sets are both viable and the 2 will never mix entirely.
UltimaJoe777 wrote: »UltimaJoe777 wrote: »UltimaJoe777 wrote: »UltimaJoe777 wrote: »
But why would i care to get those things if i can make my own gold jewelery in 5 minutes? And non-crafted doesnt mean not improvable , so i can drop purple in many easier ways and improve it. Because if You want to argue that non-crafted would not be improvable that would be even more stupid.
They will never make ALL sets in the game craftable, so dropped sets will always have merit.
You not understand things You're quoting. I was talking about improving jewelery to legendary quality in this particular conversation. What i said is why would i bother to drop golden jewelery from vet trials or leaderboards if i can make crafted gold jewelery or even improve purple droped jewelery.
"But why would i care to get those things if i can make my own gold jewelery in 5 minutes?" is what I was replying to lol sorry if quoting the whole post confused you.
Just read my discussion with @Acrolas since the beggining not starting from the middle.... If You'll atill not get the point that means You're bad in understanding what people saying.
I would, but the grammar is barely readable.
The meaning of this phrase was why would i care of going on vet trial to get golden jewelery and invest lot of time in this if i can craft gold jewelery from one of the crefted sets or (next phrase) i can improve purple droped one to gold quality.
And the answer is because dropped sets and crafted sets are both viable and the 2 will never mix entirely.
But why would i bother to drop something if i can craft not bad things in 5 minutes with traits i want?
UltimaJoe777 wrote: »UltimaJoe777 wrote: »UltimaJoe777 wrote: »UltimaJoe777 wrote: »UltimaJoe777 wrote: »
But why would i care to get those things if i can make my own gold jewelery in 5 minutes? And non-crafted doesnt mean not improvable , so i can drop purple in many easier ways and improve it. Because if You want to argue that non-crafted would not be improvable that would be even more stupid.
They will never make ALL sets in the game craftable, so dropped sets will always have merit.
You not understand things You're quoting. I was talking about improving jewelery to legendary quality in this particular conversation. What i said is why would i bother to drop golden jewelery from vet trials or leaderboards if i can make crafted gold jewelery or even improve purple droped jewelery.
"But why would i care to get those things if i can make my own gold jewelery in 5 minutes?" is what I was replying to lol sorry if quoting the whole post confused you.
Just read my discussion with @Acrolas since the beggining not starting from the middle.... If You'll atill not get the point that means You're bad in understanding what people saying.
I would, but the grammar is barely readable.
The meaning of this phrase was why would i care of going on vet trial to get golden jewelery and invest lot of time in this if i can craft gold jewelery from one of the crefted sets or (next phrase) i can improve purple droped one to gold quality.
And the answer is because dropped sets and crafted sets are both viable and the 2 will never mix entirely.
But why would i bother to drop something if i can craft not bad things in 5 minutes with traits i want?
Because the dropped set may better suit your build.
UltimaJoe777 wrote: »UltimaJoe777 wrote: »UltimaJoe777 wrote: »UltimaJoe777 wrote: »UltimaJoe777 wrote: »
But why would i care to get those things if i can make my own gold jewelery in 5 minutes? And non-crafted doesnt mean not improvable , so i can drop purple in many easier ways and improve it. Because if You want to argue that non-crafted would not be improvable that would be even more stupid.
They will never make ALL sets in the game craftable, so dropped sets will always have merit.
You not understand things You're quoting. I was talking about improving jewelery to legendary quality in this particular conversation. What i said is why would i bother to drop golden jewelery from vet trials or leaderboards if i can make crafted gold jewelery or even improve purple droped jewelery.
"But why would i care to get those things if i can make my own gold jewelery in 5 minutes?" is what I was replying to lol sorry if quoting the whole post confused you.
Just read my discussion with @Acrolas since the beggining not starting from the middle.... If You'll atill not get the point that means You're bad in understanding what people saying.
I would, but the grammar is barely readable.
The meaning of this phrase was why would i care of going on vet trial to get golden jewelery and invest lot of time in this if i can craft gold jewelery from one of the crefted sets or (next phrase) i can improve purple droped one to gold quality.
And the answer is because dropped sets and crafted sets are both viable and the 2 will never mix entirely.
But why would i bother to drop something if i can craft not bad things in 5 minutes with traits i want?
Because the dropped set may better suit your build.
,,May". I dont want to spend countless hours just to drop items that ,,may" suit my built better, especially if there will be for sure reasonable replacement in crafted gear.
UltimaJoe777 wrote: »UltimaJoe777 wrote: »UltimaJoe777 wrote: »UltimaJoe777 wrote: »UltimaJoe777 wrote: »UltimaJoe777 wrote: »
But why would i care to get those things if i can make my own gold jewelery in 5 minutes? And non-crafted doesnt mean not improvable , so i can drop purple in many easier ways and improve it. Because if You want to argue that non-crafted would not be improvable that would be even more stupid.
They will never make ALL sets in the game craftable, so dropped sets will always have merit.
You not understand things You're quoting. I was talking about improving jewelery to legendary quality in this particular conversation. What i said is why would i bother to drop golden jewelery from vet trials or leaderboards if i can make crafted gold jewelery or even improve purple droped jewelery.
"But why would i care to get those things if i can make my own gold jewelery in 5 minutes?" is what I was replying to lol sorry if quoting the whole post confused you.
Just read my discussion with @Acrolas since the beggining not starting from the middle.... If You'll atill not get the point that means You're bad in understanding what people saying.
I would, but the grammar is barely readable.
The meaning of this phrase was why would i care of going on vet trial to get golden jewelery and invest lot of time in this if i can craft gold jewelery from one of the crefted sets or (next phrase) i can improve purple droped one to gold quality.
And the answer is because dropped sets and crafted sets are both viable and the 2 will never mix entirely.
But why would i bother to drop something if i can craft not bad things in 5 minutes with traits i want?
Because the dropped set may better suit your build.
,,May". I dont want to spend countless hours just to drop items that ,,may" suit my built better, especially if there will be for sure reasonable replacement in crafted gear.
If you're serious about your build then proper planning is a pre-requisite. Hunting blindly for sets is what will waste your time. If none of the dropped sets you find on websites that contain such info are better for you than crafted sets then ok but it doesn't mean everyone is in the same boat.
Panda_iMunch wrote: »It probably would add a heck of a lot more diversity in builds instead of having to use Willpower or Agility! The only issue I can see is that there would have to be some sort of separate crafting system for that (I assume) and may upset crafters as it may take even more skill points. Other than that, I would love to see more two 5 piece builds now!
yeah of course but it shouldn't be its own profession jewel crafting might be too small only 3 slots and I don't think adding a whole new profession is a good idea.
My idea is it should be a passive in Blacksmithing called Jewelcrafting this will permit making necklaces and rings it should scale off of Metalworking and when you go to a blacksmith station you would have an extra tab so you would have weapons, armor and jewellery.
This would be the most streamlined way to implement jewelcrafting
UltimaJoe777 wrote: »yeah of course but it shouldn't be its own profession jewel crafting might be too small only 3 slots and I don't think adding a whole new profession is a good idea.
My idea is it should be a passive in Blacksmithing called Jewelcrafting this will permit making necklaces and rings it should scale off of Metalworking and when you go to a blacksmith station you would have an extra tab so you would have weapons, armor and jewellery.
This would be the most streamlined way to implement jewelcrafting
Well Woodworking is pretty small too compared to Blacksmithing and Clothing.
UltimaJoe777 wrote: »yeah of course but it shouldn't be its own profession jewel crafting might be too small only 3 slots and I don't think adding a whole new profession is a good idea.
My idea is it should be a passive in Blacksmithing called Jewelcrafting this will permit making necklaces and rings it should scale off of Metalworking and when you go to a blacksmith station you would have an extra tab so you would have weapons, armor and jewellery.
This would be the most streamlined way to implement jewelcrafting
Well Woodworking is pretty small too compared to Blacksmithing and Clothing.
but still that's still 6 items in woodwoorking
Also I forgot you would have to research traits like Robust, Healthy and Arcane
UltimaJoe777 wrote: »yeah of course but it shouldn't be its own profession jewel crafting might be too small only 3 slots and I don't think adding a whole new profession is a good idea.
My idea is it should be a passive in Blacksmithing called Jewelcrafting this will permit making necklaces and rings it should scale off of Metalworking and when you go to a blacksmith station you would have an extra tab so you would have weapons, armor and jewellery.
This would be the most streamlined way to implement jewelcrafting
Well Woodworking is pretty small too compared to Blacksmithing and Clothing.
but still that's still 6 items in woodwoorking
Also I forgot you would have to research traits like Robust, Healthy and Arcane
UltimaJoe777 wrote: »UltimaJoe777 wrote: »UltimaJoe777 wrote: »UltimaJoe777 wrote: »UltimaJoe777 wrote: »UltimaJoe777 wrote: »
But why would i care to get those things if i can make my own gold jewelery in 5 minutes? And non-crafted doesnt mean not improvable , so i can drop purple in many easier ways and improve it. Because if You want to argue that non-crafted would not be improvable that would be even more stupid.
They will never make ALL sets in the game craftable, so dropped sets will always have merit.
You not understand things You're quoting. I was talking about improving jewelery to legendary quality in this particular conversation. What i said is why would i bother to drop golden jewelery from vet trials or leaderboards if i can make crafted gold jewelery or even improve purple droped jewelery.
"But why would i care to get those things if i can make my own gold jewelery in 5 minutes?" is what I was replying to lol sorry if quoting the whole post confused you.
Just read my discussion with @Acrolas since the beggining not starting from the middle.... If You'll atill not get the point that means You're bad in understanding what people saying.
I would, but the grammar is barely readable.
The meaning of this phrase was why would i care of going on vet trial to get golden jewelery and invest lot of time in this if i can craft gold jewelery from one of the crefted sets or (next phrase) i can improve purple droped one to gold quality.
And the answer is because dropped sets and crafted sets are both viable and the 2 will never mix entirely.
But why would i bother to drop something if i can craft not bad things in 5 minutes with traits i want?
Because the dropped set may better suit your build.
,,May". I dont want to spend countless hours just to drop items that ,,may" suit my built better, especially if there will be for sure reasonable replacement in crafted gear.
If you're serious about your build then proper planning is a pre-requisite. Hunting blindly for sets is what will waste your time. If none of the dropped sets you find on websites that contain such info are better for you than crafted sets then ok but it doesn't mean everyone is in the same boat.