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Give us an instant Stam heals, Vigor HoT isn't good enough alone to make a Stam healer realistic.

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I've seen a thread about this before, I believe Stam Healers should be possible. We just need an instant heals for stam since we have the Vigor dot which hits super hard. The instant heal I suppose should be, a low instant heal but hits more than extra people and increases the healing received for next few seconds. Stam healers already have access to a minor buff from fighters guild, maybe changing the morphs for that could help make stam healing real too.

All of this is considering ESO wants to stay true to the original point of the game, and thats to let you do anything you want no matter your build. If you're a heavy armor wearing healer thats very possible in this game. You can even wear light armor and be a tank. So why not a stamina healer?

I'm sure ZOS can figure it out how to avoid it being too OP. Stam Heals are the way to go.
Edited by Smasherx74 on July 24, 2016 2:37AM
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  • TARAFRAKA
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    First the major brutality night blade thread now this.
    Sigh. I understand where you're coming from I really do. But if they gave stamina a burst heal and one that can heal others too, Stam would be near unkillable.
    Edited by TARAFRAKA on July 24, 2016 2:45AM
  • SleepyTroll
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    I hope they never do this.
  • Forestd16b14_ESO
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    I personally would love this.....

    *sits down and eats popcorn and hides behind a steel wall*

    But be ready for the magicka users.......
  • Skitttles
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    I want a stamina fire staff
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  • notimetocare
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    There is logic to a light armor tank. A mage can defend themselves well. Explain how stamina, physical exertion and vitality is going to heal others? Play how you what should have had a disclaimer of 'without being stupid'. I mean, if i want to play witha 2h and no skills except resto staff skill, should they cater to me?
  • Dracane
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    I personally would love this.....

    *sits down and eats popcorn and hides behind a steel wall*

    But be ready for the magicka users.......

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    Edited by Dracane on July 24, 2016 8:09AM
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  • juhasman
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    You want stamina based healer? OK. I want magicka based roll dodger.
    Edited by juhasman on July 24, 2016 8:51AM
  • Draxys
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    Seriously?

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  • Leandor
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    OP reported. These :trollface: threads seriously need to stop.
    Edited by Leandor on July 24, 2016 9:10AM
  • OrphanHelgen
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    I have done so many flawless runs in maelstrom with vigor as only healing. Yes, its kind of weak and short duration, but invest some cp and skill that gives healing revieved :)
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  • Thraben
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    I´ve done a stam dk healer.

    Just combine the Pelinal´s Aptitude Set, high CP points in healing and barrier, and 2 swords & 3 pieces of jewelry of the Trinimac Set.

    The only downside is that I can´t really use it on Azura´s Star, but for PvE groups it´s sufficient.

    And on EU´s Azura my PvP my raids have stamina based offhealing options anyway to counter Negation fields.



    A healing stam Templar should be even easier to make, and should be a delight to play in PUG, because vigor is dirt cheap and solves the typical ressource problems of a templar when people are too dumb to stand inside the Healing Springs (which they always are). Breath of Life + Vigor is a couple made in heaven, both easy, dynamic and fast to use, both resistant to LAG and both complementing each other perfectly.



    A healing stam sorc, however, doens´t work so fine, it is more effective to maximize both your magicka and your weapon damage to get vigor above 6k without sacrificing your matriarch´s magicka based healing. Too bad there is no medium armor of necropotence or combat physician set so that I´m forced to wear the Set of Redistribution.


    Edited by Thraben on July 24, 2016 10:03AM
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  • hrothbern
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    Smasherx74 wrote: »
    I've seen a thread about this before, I believe Stam Healers should be possible. We just need an instant heals for stam since we have the Vigor dot which hits super hard. The instant heal I suppose should be, a low instant heal but hits more than extra people and increases the healing received for next few seconds. Stam healers already have access to a minor buff from fighters guild, maybe changing the morphs for that could help make stam healing real too.

    All of this is considering ESO wants to stay true to the original point of the game, and thats to let you do anything you want no matter your build. If you're a heavy armor wearing healer thats very possible in this game. You can even wear light armor and be a tank. So why not a stamina healer?

    I'm sure ZOS can figure it out how to avoid it being too OP. Stam Heals are the way to go.

    @Smasherx74 ,
    The kind of Heal you want is for Magicka ONLY available for a Templar.

    So... what is it you want ?
    A Stamina morph for a Templar BOL ?
    or a Stamina BOL for all Classes ?

    A Stamina BOL for all classes would put the whole Healing balance in the game upside down.

    Edited by hrothbern on July 24, 2016 9:55AM
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    This sounds like an absolutely fantastic way to break this game completely.
  • OrphanHelgen
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    hrothbern wrote: »
    Smasherx74 wrote: »
    I've seen a thread about this before, I believe Stam Healers should be possible. We just need an instant heals for stam since we have the Vigor dot which hits super hard. The instant heal I suppose should be, a low instant heal but hits more than extra people and increases the healing received for next few seconds. Stam healers already have access to a minor buff from fighters guild, maybe changing the morphs for that could help make stam healing real too.

    All of this is considering ESO wants to stay true to the original point of the game, and thats to let you do anything you want no matter your build. If you're a heavy armor wearing healer thats very possible in this game. You can even wear light armor and be a tank. So why not a stamina healer?

    I'm sure ZOS can figure it out how to avoid it being too OP. Stam Heals are the way to go.

    @Smasherx74 ,
    The kind of Heal you want is for Magicka ONLY available for a Templar.

    So... what is it you want ?
    A Stamina morph for a Templar BOL ?
    or a Stamina BOL for all Classes ?

    A Stamina BOL for all classes would put the whole Healing balance in the game upside down.

    Haha:):) yeah, and lets give magicka classes more roll dodges options. Then we need snipe on bow to be none cast time, and divided into 3 dmg types like force pulls, physical, poison and disease. And same scaling ofc.
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  • RebornV3x
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    only if i can get a magicka roll dodge or a magicka Dizzing swing
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  • Firerock2
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    RebornV3x wrote: »
    magicka Dizzing swing

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  • Actually_Goku
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    Yeah Stamina needs a buff right now, for sure. My mag DK is just wrecking at the moment, buff stamina so it's a bit harder for me to kill stambushers, I have no execute, but I want even more of a challenge.

    Not. Vigor is perfectly fine.

    And Magplar is more or less the only magicka build with an instantaneous, strong heal.
  • Averya_Teira
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    There would officially be NO reason to play magicka if this happened ..... stam has best DPS, stam has best tank, and now it would have best healer lol....

    Why not remove the magicka bar from the game at this point OP ?
  • psychotic13
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    Stamina builds don't need to be healers, a guy with a 2h should be hard hitting, not hard hitting and able to heal everyone.. end of conversation stupid idea
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    HA X 1 million
  • Smasherx74
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    TARAFRAKA wrote: »
    First the major brutality night blade thread now this.
    Sigh. I understand where you're coming from I really do. But if they gave stamina a burst heal and one that can heal others too, Stam would be near unkillable.

    That's why they would have to nerf it and why I said the the instant heals should be low hit but have a buff that increases healing.

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  • Smasherx74
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    hrothbern wrote: »
    Smasherx74 wrote: »
    I've seen a thread about this before, I believe Stam Healers should be possible. We just need an instant heals for stam since we have the Vigor dot which hits super hard. The instant heal I suppose should be, a low instant heal but hits more than extra people and increases the healing received for next few seconds. Stam healers already have access to a minor buff from fighters guild, maybe changing the morphs for that could help make stam healing real too.

    All of this is considering ESO wants to stay true to the original point of the game, and thats to let you do anything you want no matter your build. If you're a heavy armor wearing healer thats very possible in this game. You can even wear light armor and be a tank. So why not a stamina healer?

    I'm sure ZOS can figure it out how to avoid it being too OP. Stam Heals are the way to go.

    @Smasherx74 ,
    The kind of Heal you want is for Magicka ONLY available for a Templar.

    So... what is it you want ?
    A Stamina morph for a Templar BOL ?
    or a Stamina BOL for all Classes ?

    A Stamina BOL for all classes would put the whole Healing balance in the game upside down.

    I never said I wanted stamina morph for BOL, I just said I want an instant Stam heal. I even said it should be weak, and apply a buff that would make vigor more so effective. Stamina users should be given the ability to completely heal and maintain resources/buffs for their group. This should be possible, it's ESO where tanks can wear light armor and healers can wear heavy armor.

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  • lolo_01b16_ESO
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    Ever heard of repentance? I do most of my healing outside trials with that skill and it scales with stamina in a similar way as it scales with magicka. So healing vet dungeons on a stamplar isn't much different than on a magplar.
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    Stamina is already the meta atm. Vigor is extremely powerful. Combined with Shuffle, and the ability to CC break and dodge roll a lot..... There is a very good reason why Stamina is meta this patch. Atm Stamina altogether is in a great spot!

    If a burst heal becomes available just like that we would have significant balance problems between Magicka and Stamina.
    Edited by Vaoh on July 24, 2016 3:36PM
  • TARAFRAKA
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    Smasherx74 wrote: »
    TARAFRAKA wrote: »
    First the major brutality night blade thread now this.
    Sigh. I understand where you're coming from I really do. But if they gave stamina a burst heal and one that can heal others too, Stam would be near unkillable.

    That's why they would have to nerf it and why I said the the instant heals should be low hit but have a buff that increases healing.

    What you're asking for is basically major mending that would apply to the Stam healer and the people he or she is healing so then he could then do an insane amount of healing to himself and others right after. NO. TOO OP. You can already buff healing output and input with CP. BOOM. There's your buff.
    Edited by TARAFRAKA on July 24, 2016 3:42PM
  • TARAFRAKA
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    Play as you want =/= Play as you want WELL.
    You can be a Stam healer you just won't be effective as it. Stam has great mobility, hits harder, great heals for self and defense. Make them able to heal each other more effectively than now then it will be nothing but Stam dks and nbs forever and ever...no reason to ever roll astny other character. Magic doesn't have best burst, don't typically tank the best, all they have is healing.
  • Oakmontowls_ESO
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    What if the other morph of vigor gave a mutagen effect which would be about as strong as two ticks of vigor and would purge one negative effect when you hit a certain hp threshold. You would have to give up the stronger vigor ticks on your self but you would be able to have a small burst heal in critical situations.
  • Lieblingsjunge
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    So what you're sayign is: Make Stamina able to do everything(dodge roll, cc-break, sprint etc.)+ be good at healing? Kay, den. Give my Templar(Healer) less dodge roll/break free-cost, pl0x.I want to be as mobiel as a stamina character!!!

    Vigour is a decent heal in random dungeons. Maybe not in ICP/WGT, but with DK's major mending buff should give nice ticks on HP. And if you really wanted to heal, just spec hybrid and use a resto staff :)!
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  • Forestd16b14_ESO
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    Dracane wrote: »
    I personally would love this.....

    *sits down and eats popcorn and hides behind a steel wall*

    But be ready for the magicka users.......

    It's official now. You must be Sheogorath.

    What it's mad that stamina users want something else besides vigor as a stamina heal ?
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    It'd be nice if we could get the exact same skills in two versions, one using the blue resource, the other using the green resource.




    We'd have so much fun.
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