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doublestuffed · July 2016

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Lord_Draevan wrote: »

As someone who's new to BFTP... I have idea why there's so much drama around this guild

@Lord_Draevan It's the leadership. They spreads lies and slander about other players and tries to control who his guildies and former guildies are allowed to play with. There's a reason nearly every one of his officers have quit the guild.

This 100%

Lord_Draevan · July 2016

doublestuffed wrote: »

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svartorn wrote: »

Lord_Draevan wrote: »

As someone who's new to BFTP... I have idea why there's so much drama around this guild

@Lord_Draevan It's the leadership. They spreads lies and slander about other players and tries to control who his guildies and former guildies are allowed to play with. There's a reason nearly every one of his officers have quit the guild.

This 100%

Again, must have been before I joined 3-4 months ago, because the same 7 officers that were there when I joined are still there now.

Telel · July 2016

PeggymoeXD wrote: »

My argument to this post is the fact that taking anything makes it the most important objective on the map to AD. Some PvE pug could call out that there are 3 EP grinding in Cracked Wood Cave and AD would hold a faction event to zerg them down. I know it's difficult to split AD forces, since there are six hundred million of them all connected to a hive mind, but any effort to divert their attention elsewhere is always necessary.

Telel can at least confirm that many Ad 'scouts' are not fond of providing obviously unimportant information when they call out attacks. Silly things like, how many, what side, if there's actually siege, and where they are all cast aside for efficiency's sake.

This does mean you will see more organized groups quickly moving from site to site as we try to figure out if there's 8000 griffs sieging alessia again, or if there's just five under the bridge killing any lone level 10s that try and cross.

On the plus side it does give the pack something to do besides chase Invictus across the width and breadth of Nirn for hours on end.

Mojmir · July 2016

Roehamad_Ali wrote: »

Can we make this about lag ? Or take a minute to discuss Shield Breaker ?

willows path!!!

ataggs · July 2016

Can everyone just look at the score and see how close it is! For the second month in a row, there is competitive balance in TF. Anyone can win this campaign and #allfactionszerg.

PeggymoeXD · July 2016

Telel wrote: »

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PeggymoeXD wrote: »

My argument to this post is the fact that taking anything makes it the most important objective on the map to AD. Some PvE pug could call out that there are 3 EP grinding in Cracked Wood Cave and AD would hold a faction event to zerg them down. I know it's difficult to split AD forces, since there are six hundred million of them all connected to a hive mind, but any effort to divert their attention elsewhere is always necessary.

Telel can at least confirm that many Ad 'scouts' are not fond of providing obviously unimportant information when they call out attacks. Silly things like, how many, what side, if there's actually siege, and where they are all cast aside for efficiency's sake.

This does mean you will see more organized groups quickly moving from site to site as we try to figure out if there's 8000 griffs sieging alessia again, or if there's just five under the bridge killing any lone level 10s that try and cross.

On the plus side it does give the pack something to do besides chase Invictus across the width and breadth of Nirn for hours on end.

Actually there was a moment yesterday when we had a tiny group attempt to lure a large group of AD to a happy-time kill spot, but they didn't chase us! We felt unacknowledged and slightly offended.. Perhaps the hive mind is adapting and becoming intelligent :P

Telel · July 2016

PeggymoeXD wrote: »

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Telel wrote: »

PeggymoeXD wrote: »

My argument to this post is the fact that taking anything makes it the most important objective on the map to AD. Some PvE pug could call out that there are 3 EP grinding in Cracked Wood Cave and AD would hold a faction event to zerg them down. I know it's difficult to split AD forces, since there are six hundred million of them all connected to a hive mind, but any effort to divert their attention elsewhere is always necessary.

Telel can at least confirm that many Ad 'scouts' are not fond of providing obviously unimportant information when they call out attacks. Silly things like, how many, what side, if there's actually siege, and where they are all cast aside for efficiency's sake.

This does mean you will see more organized groups quickly moving from site to site as we try to figure out if there's 8000 griffs sieging alessia again, or if there's just five under the bridge killing any lone level 10s that try and cross.

On the plus side it does give the pack something to do besides chase Invictus across the width and breadth of Nirn for hours on end.

Actually there was a moment yesterday when we had a tiny group attempt to lure a large group of AD to a happy-time kill spot, but they didn't chase us! We felt unacknowledged and slightly offended.. Perhaps the hive mind is adapting and becoming intelligent :P

Maybe they didn't want to use overwhelming odds because they were more interested in a sporting fight.

Or maybe they wanted to get to a more strategic position to push a map objective over walking into an obvious trap that'd frustrate the newer players who weren't quite ready for prox blob chasing.

ORRRRRRRRR....they've seen how some griffs like to sucker people in with bait only to yank the bacon flavored yarn of \o/ away and replace it with the Dunmer flavored wire of >: , and they didn't want to fall for it an eightieth time.

That evening.

The thing at the dolmen with the eight trebuchets was funny though.

Anazasi · July 2016

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zyk wrote: »

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Makkir wrote: »

Can I ask what happened to that EP zerg guild on TF? I think it was Pact Militia.

Pact Militia usually runs groups from 5:00pm EST to 2:00am EST.

Do I have the correct guild? I moved to Haderus a few weeks ago. There was an EP guild that rolled with like 3 raids

Pact Militia has developed into a small man guild now. We only run 1vX builds and dance with the plebs around trees and rocks

Believe it or not, there's a VAST middle groups between coordinating multiple raids and running around trees all night.

I think it's lame to spend all of one's time LOSing players around trees and rocks with stam builds, but against your hordes, utilizing LOS is the correct tactic, so you probably observe this more frequently than others.

Yup, Pact Militia coordinates multiple raids just so we can chase stamina builds around trees all night. Without raid 3 I highly doubt we would be able to Eliminate those amazing players who do 1vTree.

and by coordinating they mean taking the same objective with 3 raids. If you not sure of that check out some of the massive fights we have had on TF....it's real.....

NACtron · July 2016

Anazasi wrote: »

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NACtron wrote: »

zyk wrote: »

NACtron wrote: »

Makkir wrote: »

frozywozy wrote: »

Makkir wrote: »

Can I ask what happened to that EP zerg guild on TF? I think it was Pact Militia.

Pact Militia usually runs groups from 5:00pm EST to 2:00am EST.

Do I have the correct guild? I moved to Haderus a few weeks ago. There was an EP guild that rolled with like 3 raids

Pact Militia has developed into a small man guild now. We only run 1vX builds and dance with the plebs around trees and rocks

Believe it or not, there's a VAST middle groups between coordinating multiple raids and running around trees all night.

I think it's lame to spend all of one's time LOSing players around trees and rocks with stam builds, but against your hordes, utilizing LOS is the correct tactic, so you probably observe this more frequently than others.

Yup, Pact Militia coordinates multiple raids just so we can chase stamina builds around trees all night. Without raid 3 I highly doubt we would be able to Eliminate those amazing players who do 1vTree.

and by coordinating they mean taking the same objective with 3 raids. If you not sure of that check out some of the massive fights we have had on TF....it's real.....

They were very real tonight, I have never so many players fighting and dying in one place since February. easily some of the most epic open field battles I have ever have in this game.

zyk · July 2016

NACtron wrote: »

They were very real tonight, I have never so many players fighting and dying in one place since February. easily some of the most epic open field battles I have ever have in this game.

You should rename your guild to Mutara Nebula. Abilities ceased to function as I approached it.

https://youtube.com/watch?v=oD9ARfF9x0o

PeggymoeXD · July 2016

Telel wrote: »

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PeggymoeXD wrote: »

Telel wrote: »

PeggymoeXD wrote: »

My argument to this post is the fact that taking anything makes it the most important objective on the map to AD. Some PvE pug could call out that there are 3 EP grinding in Cracked Wood Cave and AD would hold a faction event to zerg them down. I know it's difficult to split AD forces, since there are six hundred million of them all connected to a hive mind, but any effort to divert their attention elsewhere is always necessary.

Telel can at least confirm that many Ad 'scouts' are not fond of providing obviously unimportant information when they call out attacks. Silly things like, how many, what side, if there's actually siege, and where they are all cast aside for efficiency's sake.

This does mean you will see more organized groups quickly moving from site to site as we try to figure out if there's 8000 griffs sieging alessia again, or if there's just five under the bridge killing any lone level 10s that try and cross.

On the plus side it does give the pack something to do besides chase Invictus across the width and breadth of Nirn for hours on end.

Actually there was a moment yesterday when we had a tiny group attempt to lure a large group of AD to a happy-time kill spot, but they didn't chase us! We felt unacknowledged and slightly offended.. Perhaps the hive mind is adapting and becoming intelligent :P

Maybe they didn't want to use overwhelming odds because they were more interested in a sporting fight.

Or maybe they wanted to get to a more strategic position to push a map objective over walking into an obvious trap that'd frustrate the newer players who weren't quite ready for prox blob chasing.

ORRRRRRRRR....they've seen how some griffs like to sucker people in with bait only to yank the bacon flavored yarn of \o/ away and replace it with the Dunmer flavored wire of >: , and they didn't want to fall for it an eightieth time.

That evening.

The thing at the dolmen with the eight trebuchets was funny though.

LOL yeah that didn't quite go as we had hoped it would... Half of the group was invisible for me so I had trouble even finding a place to set my treb up haha

Lord_Draevan · July 2016

DC at Chalman: check.
AD at BRK at Ash: check.
Estimated EP retake of BRK: 5 hours minimum.

The weekend EP routine: SO IT BEGINS...

Darnathian · July 2016

Lord_Draevan wrote: »

DC at Chalman: check.
AD at BRK at Ash: check.
Estimated EP retake of BRK: 5 hours minimum.

The weekend EP routine: SO IT BEGINS...

EP whine before 8 am: Check.

Lord_Draevan · July 2016

Darnathian wrote: »

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Lord_Draevan wrote: »

DC at Chalman: check.
AD at BRK at Ash: check.
Estimated EP retake of BRK: 5 hours minimum.

The weekend EP routine: SO IT BEGINS...

EP whine before 8 am: Check.

Yeah but I'm talking about EP, not AD or DC ¯¯\__(ツ)__/¯¯

Ghostbane · July 2016

If you are lucky enough to wipe PM, #noTree is the new #noScope

phairdon · July 2016

Lets see. Tonight i've witnessed 3 ad templars low level flying into players and killing them with jabs. One dc player surrounded inside a structure taking out a fairly large group of ep players, without taking any damage whatsoever as their health bar did not move at all, regardless of the amount of damage being thrown at them over a sustained period of time.
Guess everything is normal.

svartorn · July 2016

Did this thread really turn into people complaining about time zones?

Lord_Draevan · July 2016

svartorn wrote: »

Did this thread really turn into people complaining about time zones?

Not that I can see, then again I've only read pages 8-9 of this.

svartorn · July 2016

Lots of complaining about oceanic prime time players.

Lord_Draevan · July 2016

svartorn wrote: »

Lots of complaining about oceanic prime time players.

I don't mind them. Even people in North America play on NA off hours, it's no big deal.

Anazasi · July 2016

With the last of AD leaving Had, we all can be assured that the lag fights will get worse, the que will be longer, and strange mystical things will happen. I am not saying AD coming to TF will cause this because i am glad they are here. But with no one to fight on Had, the DC and EP will follow. I think we can all expect to see lager EP and DC balls....i mean zergs, because we know they don't have those when all they choose to do is stack on top of each other......Lets make one thing clear to all the factions out there on TF. We constantly check numbers before responding to a defense. If we here more than 2 raids at a keep, you can be assured AD will stack as well. I would caution the other factions. They are not dealing with 1 or 2 organized groups, you now have to contend with 5 or 6 organized guilds. We have no problem working together and communicating with each other. EP and DC this is your worst nightmare---a faction united with a common goal.

Summer has arrived!

Roechacca · July 2016

Anazasi wrote: »

With the last of AD leaving Had, we all can be assured that the lag fights will get worse, the que will be longer, and strange mystical things will happen. I am not saying AD coming to TF will cause this because i am glad they are here. But with no one to fight on Had, the DC and EP will follow. I think we can all expect to see lager EP and DC balls....i mean zergs, because we know they don't have those when all they choose to do is stack on top of each other......Lets make one thing clear to all the factions out there on TF. We constantly check numbers before responding to a defense. If we here more than 2 raids at a keep, you can be assured AD will stack as well. I would caution the other factions. They are not dealing with 1 or 2 organized groups, you now have to contend with 5 or 6 organized guilds. We have no problem working together and communicating with each other. EP and DC this is your worst nightmare---a faction united with a common goal.

Summer has arrived!

It's a shame seeing AD leave Haderus. When we went to Haderus, it was all yellow 24/7. We were lucky to get the north west corner blue most nights. It took months of fighting on the map to get it in a position to take Emp. An now AD has the same challenge and walks away. That's a damn shame.

frozywozy · July 2016

Anazasi wrote: »

With the last of AD leaving Had, we all can be assured that the lag fights will get worse, the que will be longer, and strange mystical things will happen. I am not saying AD coming to TF will cause this because i am glad they are here. But with no one to fight on Had, the DC and EP will follow. I think we can all expect to see lager EP and DC balls....i mean zergs, because we know they don't have those when all they choose to do is stack on top of each other......Lets make one thing clear to all the factions out there on TF. We constantly check numbers before responding to a defense. If we here more than 2 raids at a keep, you can be assured AD will stack as well. I would caution the other factions. They are not dealing with 1 or 2 organized groups, you now have to contend with 5 or 6 organized guilds. We have no problem working together and communicating with each other. EP and DC this is your worst nightmare---a faction united with a common goal.

Summer has arrived!

When I see 60-80 AD players trying to take Brk, my first reflex is to get my group all the way down at Faregyl / Blood / Black-boot and captures ressources / flag keeps. This is the best way to force the enemy zerg to spread out. Stacking more raids to create a huge mega zerg VS mega zerg fight only create more latency issues and make everyone log for the night.

Lord_Draevan · July 2016

Darnathian wrote: »

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Lord_Draevan wrote: »

DC at Chalman: check.
AD at BRK at Ash: check.
Estimated EP retake of BRK: 5 hours minimum.

The weekend EP routine: SO IT BEGINS...

EP whine before 8 am: Check.

Apparently it's all we can do. EP's been pop-locked for hours yet only 10-15 of us are trying to push anything. The rest is...

Maztiax · July 2016

PvP is a joke

susmitds · July 2016

frozywozy wrote: »

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Anazasi wrote: »

With the last of AD leaving Had, we all can be assured that the lag fights will get worse, the que will be longer, and strange mystical things will happen. I am not saying AD coming to TF will cause this because i am glad they are here. But with no one to fight on Had, the DC and EP will follow. I think we can all expect to see lager EP and DC balls....i mean zergs, because we know they don't have those when all they choose to do is stack on top of each other......Lets make one thing clear to all the factions out there on TF. We constantly check numbers before responding to a defense. If we here more than 2 raids at a keep, you can be assured AD will stack as well. I would caution the other factions. They are not dealing with 1 or 2 organized groups, you now have to contend with 5 or 6 organized guilds. We have no problem working together and communicating with each other. EP and DC this is your worst nightmare---a faction united with a common goal.

Summer has arrived!

When I see 60-80 AD players trying to take Brk, my first reflex is to get my group all the way down at Faregyl / Blood / Black-boot and captures ressources / flag keeps. This is the best way to force the enemy zerg to spread out. Stacking more raids to create a huge mega zerg VS mega zerg fight only create more latency issues and make everyone log for the night.

You would be surprised to see how few people in AD actually care about home keeps if we can get BRK, Ash instead. Holding an enemy keep is way more interesting for us than our own.

antihero727 · July 2016

Roechacca wrote: »

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Anazasi wrote: »

With the last of AD leaving Had, we all can be assured that the lag fights will get worse, the que will be longer, and strange mystical things will happen. I am not saying AD coming to TF will cause this because i am glad they are here. But with no one to fight on Had, the DC and EP will follow. I think we can all expect to see lager EP and DC balls....i mean zergs, because we know they don't have those when all they choose to do is stack on top of each other......Lets make one thing clear to all the factions out there on TF. We constantly check numbers before responding to a defense. If we here more than 2 raids at a keep, you can be assured AD will stack as well. I would caution the other factions. They are not dealing with 1 or 2 organized groups, you now have to contend with 5 or 6 organized guilds. We have no problem working together and communicating with each other. EP and DC this is your worst nightmare---a faction united with a common goal.

Summer has arrived!

It's a shame seeing AD leave Haderus. When we went to Haderus, it was all yellow 24/7. We were lucky to get the north west corner blue most nights. It took months of fighting on the map to get it in a position to take Emp. An now AD has the same challenge and walks away. That's a damn shame.

It was a sad day for us too but the server has become a joke. There were only 2 large AD guilds left and we only ran a few hrs a day if that as a group to contentd with both DC and EP constantly pushing the AD. There is some shady stuff going on up north too. The fights are so one sided most of the time, it's just no fun anymore being the only ones running most of the time. Well they could always fight eachother, lol like that would happen. It would be different fighting only 1 strong alliance but 2 with a vendetta is a load of crap. At least it was mostly AD you were facing not, pop DC, 3 bar, EP, 2 bar AD with both roe and fare flagged at the same time.

Anazasi · July 2016

antihero727 wrote: »

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Roechacca wrote: »

Anazasi wrote: »

With the last of AD leaving Had, we all can be assured that the lag fights will get worse, the que will be longer, and strange mystical things will happen. I am not saying AD coming to TF will cause this because i am glad they are here. But with no one to fight on Had, the DC and EP will follow. I think we can all expect to see lager EP and DC balls....i mean zergs, because we know they don't have those when all they choose to do is stack on top of each other......Lets make one thing clear to all the factions out there on TF. We constantly check numbers before responding to a defense. If we here more than 2 raids at a keep, you can be assured AD will stack as well. I would caution the other factions. They are not dealing with 1 or 2 organized groups, you now have to contend with 5 or 6 organized guilds. We have no problem working together and communicating with each other. EP and DC this is your worst nightmare---a faction united with a common goal.

Summer has arrived!

It's a shame seeing AD leave Haderus. When we went to Haderus, it was all yellow 24/7. We were lucky to get the north west corner blue most nights. It took months of fighting on the map to get it in a position to take Emp. An now AD has the same challenge and walks away. That's a damn shame.

It was a sad day for us too but the server has become a joke. There were only 2 large AD guilds left and we only ran a few hrs a day if that as a group to contentd with both DC and EP constantly pushing the AD. There is some shady stuff going on up north too. The fights are so one sided most of the time, it's just no fun anymore being the only ones running most of the time. Well they could always fight eachother, lol like that would happen. It would be different fighting only 1 strong alliance but 2 with a vendetta is a load of crap. At least it was mostly AD you were facing not, pop DC, 3 bar, EP, 2 bar AD with both roe and fare flagged at the same time.

you will find the same conditions on TF the only difference is there are more AD to help. I'm glad AD has finally united on one campaign.

maxjapank · July 2016

Lord_Draevan wrote: »

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Darnathian wrote: »

Lord_Draevan wrote: »

DC at Chalman: check.
AD at BRK at Ash: check.
Estimated EP retake of BRK: 5 hours minimum.

The weekend EP routine: SO IT BEGINS...

EP whine before 8 am: Check.

Apparently it's all we can do. EP's been pop-locked for hours yet only 10-15 of us are trying to push anything. The rest is...

Lol. Well you guys keep it up. We blue at 2 bars tried to keep a pop-locked yellow from crowning an Emp. But alas, the numbers were too much. We saw red hit Chal a couple of times during the massive Aleswell fight. Hoped you'd get as EP had 3 bars. But I guess some were farming IC instead.

Fight the good fight. Chin up!

dashima · July 2016

Wow, I moved to Trueflame a couple months ago to support the struggling AD there, and because AD made Haderus very un-fun, and now all of AD is faction stacking on Trueflame?

We've already had guilds like Fantasia, Arcane and COH reroll. You other guys on Had are now coming to Trueflame because you'd rather be winning a campaign instead of dealing with the DC zergs that mirror what you used to be, and now will become on Trueflame?

Back when I asked Had guilds like UA to move to Trueflame when it needed the help, everyone refused because of excuses like lag. Now you guys want to move? Why?

The last thing we need is for Trueflame to become an even bigger, laggier tri-faction zergserver and Haderus to go unchecked. I think I've read that the one EP guild there is leaving (DR?) and now two fairly large AD guilds are leaving so now we're going to have all of AD's major guilds stacked in one campaign, all of EP's major guilds stacked in one campaign, and several DC major guilds, all on TF. GG guys.

Edit: I know I'm going off the bat with qq right now but I want to add that the best environment for groups to learn and improve is in outnumbered areas. Had is probably an awesome challenge and a lot of AP for the remaining AD players there so the fact that you guys are moving away from it says a lot. @heystreethawk @forzajuve212 maybe we should farm it up in Had sometime? Lol.