Potion Multiplier, instead of being stood at a table for minutes on end.

Samphaa · July 2016

Why is there not a potion multiplier at the side of the reagents selected? I find it incredibly boring to sit there and watch as my character stands at the table making 4 potions at a time.

Surely it would be much easier and faster to just select the solvent and reagents you want to use and then use times multiplier on the side to craft however many you need? Obviously it would only let you go up to the lowest amount of item in your inventory.

You could even display the amount of potions that are going to be created with regards to how many skill points you have in "Chemistry", I've literally wasted hours of my life crafting potions, I think a quick craft option needs to be available, please don't tell me this is an immersion thing.

wayfarerx · July 2016

If you're on PC there is an addon for this. It's great for grinding out crafting skills.

Paulington · July 2016

wayfarerx wrote: »

If you're on PC there is an addon for this. It's great for grinding out crafting skills.

The thing is, that addon is technically an actionable offense.

ZOS_MollyH wrote: »

Hi @Leandor ,

Macros and addons that allow players to automate and perform multiple actions with a single keystroke is a violation of our Terms of Service. All examples you provided do fall under automation, and as such are not allowed via our Terms of Service.

I do use this addon, as do multitudes of others and the risk of ever getting anything happen to you because you use it is miniscule but I believe ZOS should look into the suggestion @Samphaa has made. If it's annoying enough for people to make an addon that circumvents something then the developers should modify how that particular thing works.

I'm all for a multiplier, or just a "craft x" button that crafts them all immediately. When you're crafting thousands of potions/food it can be really frustrating.

Daishichi · July 2016

Can I quote myself? (Just to save some typing)

From a thread about "Needed additions":

Daishichi wrote: »

11) Craft the same way we sell, by setting quantities and calculating price.

I don't know who else crafts food for cash the way I do, but hitting the X button hundreds of times with a (1-2 second wait between each) is utterly maddening.

When I go to sell that food, I can set the quantity and the total price is calculated...why can't I craft the same way?

If I have enough materials to make 50 Markath Mead worth 5 Gold, and the Chef/Brewer passives to make 4 servings each time, then 50 x 4 x 5 = 1000 Gold. Ta da!

Even if you're still leveling the craft in question, the "inspiration" is just another variable in a simple formula.

wayfarerx · July 2016

Paulington wrote: »

wayfarerx wrote: »

If you're on PC there is an addon for this. It's great for grinding out crafting skills.

The thing is, that addon is technically an actionable offense.

Yes, it is technically a violation of the ToS, which I must say is the single most asinine thing that ZOS has ever said. I understand that they want to take a strong stance against automated playing and bots and that they don't want to leave any wiggle room in the rules, but that does not make it any less dumb.

I have never heard of anyone being disciplined for using non-combat automation addons like this or Roomba or the skip-empty-pages functionality in AwesomeGuildStore. All of these addons simply improve portions of the default UI that are, frankly, terrible on their own. It would be great if ZOS added the functionality provided by these addons to the default UI, but we've been beating that drum for two years now and nothing has changed.

I've stuck with this game though a lot of ups and downs, but if they actually start disciplining people for using simple quality-of-life addons that do not affect any other players then I'm out of here.

rootimus · July 2016

Mass-crafting, deconstruction and upgrading are all a pain in the wrist.

bebynnag · July 2016

zos consider the add on and 'actionable offence' i assume because on an alt you could level your alchemy in 1 second (given enough ingredients)

so as a work around, why not add it as a an additional perk you can unlock once alchemy is adequately levelled, ie. allows you to use 3 reagents & select number of potions/poisons you would like to craft

UltimaJoe777 · July 2016

Paulington wrote: »

wayfarerx wrote: »

If you're on PC there is an addon for this. It's great for grinding out crafting skills.

The thing is, that addon is technically an actionable offense.

ZOS_MollyH wrote: »

Hi @Leandor ,

Macros and addons that allow players to automate and perform multiple actions with a single keystroke is a violation of our Terms of Service. All examples you provided do fall under automation, and as such are not allowed via our Terms of Service.

I do use this addon, as do multitudes of others and the risk of ever getting anything happen to you because you use it is miniscule but I believe ZOS should look into the suggestion @Samphaa has made. If it's annoying enough for people to make an addon that circumvents something then the developers should modify how that particular thing works.

I'm all for a multiplier, or just a "craft x" button that crafts them all immediately. When you're crafting thousands of potions/food it can be really frustrating.

No, that's just trying to say impatience should run everything. Also you just confessed to violating ToS

s7732425ub17_ESO · July 2016

puffytheslayer wrote: »

zos consider the add on and 'actionable offence' i assume because on an alt you could level your alchemy in 1 second (given enough ingredients)

so as a work around, why not add it as a an additional perk you can unlock once alchemy is adequately levelled, ie. allows you to use 3 reagents & select number of potions/poisons you would like to craft

Or, alternatively, you can level up alchemy in 3 minutes by hitting the keys yourself. So this argument is invalid.

Danksta · July 2016

They should have it for all the consumable crafts.

Danksta · July 2016

puffytheslayer wrote: »

zos consider the add on and 'actionable offence' i assume because on an alt you could level your alchemy in 1 second (given enough ingredients)

so as a work around, why not add it as a an additional perk you can unlock once alchemy is adequately levelled, ie. allows you to use 3 reagents & select number of potions/poisons you would like to craft

The reason it violates ToS, I assume, is for combat reasons

Nestor · July 2016

I have always been surprised there was not a way to set the amount to be crafted for potions and foods. No one just makes 4 of these. Maybe not Enchanting, but I frequently make 7 at a time for armor sets.

N0TPLAYER2 · July 2016

It's because it's a time sink. They want people to play as long as possible. That's why we don't have an auction house, or any other time saver. It's all a time sink.

bebynnag · July 2016

s7732425ub17_ESO wrote: »

puffytheslayer wrote: »

zos consider the add on and 'actionable offence' i assume because on an alt you could level your alchemy in 1 second (given enough ingredients)

so as a work around, why not add it as a an additional perk you can unlock once alchemy is adequately levelled, ie. allows you to use 3 reagents & select number of potions/poisons you would like to craft

Or, alternatively, you can level up alchemy in 3 minutes by hitting the keys yourself. So this argument is invalid.

I am a console player and so I couldn't use add on's even if i wanted too.

i simply made a suggestion as to how a useful feature could be introduced to the game without having to use an add on that is currently considered an actionable offence.

no argument... simply a valid opinion!

bebynnag · July 2016

Danksta wrote: »

puffytheslayer wrote: »

zos consider the add on and 'actionable offence' i assume because on an alt you could level your alchemy in 1 second (given enough ingredients)

so as a work around, why not add it as a an additional perk you can unlock once alchemy is adequately levelled, ie. allows you to use 3 reagents & select number of potions/poisons you would like to craft

The reason it violates ToS, I assume, is for combat reasons

how would making multiple potions at the same time effect combat?

Ep1kMalware · July 2016

I'm going to trollpost even though I somewhat agree.

alchemy is chemistry in eso. As a chemist I can say that it should be slow to add a layer of realism. Chemistry is extremely slow in general and everything from prep to synth to cleanup takes multiple hours. Particularly I do R&D for energetic compounds (boom booms) and one particular compound we work with, in synthesis, had a 66hour reflux time.

same step, every time. I think to add realism each potion should take 100 hours to obtain.

Dromede · July 2016

Even when you use one of those add-ons, it doesn't take care of your crafting needs in 1 second lol. It takes just as much time as it would if you hit it manually (there's a 1-2 second timeout), you just don't have to push the button evert single time.

It's crazy that this kind of functionality is even called 'macros' together with so many other offences. I mean, i see the technicality why the term still applies, but in reality the use is so limited and harmless that it should hardly be seen as offense at all. IMO

Pomaikai · July 2016

Which is why ZOS allows the add-on to still exist. They do shut down, or remove the functionality of some add-ons that they don't like.

PurifedBladez · July 2016

I just read the title but I agree with you. Lol.