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Why do the european servers act like we are in the U.S?
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ScottK1994✭✭✭Verbalinkontinenz wrote: »no u cant, because of terms of service you read and subscribed.
Doesn't apply to UK law1 -
Niastissa✭✭✭ScottK1994 wrote: »ScottK1994 wrote: »Valen_Byte wrote: »OP, you really need to do some checking before you come here to rant. Many of us have been here and know the history of the game and the servers. Just about every statement you have made has been dead wrong.
EU server is in EU.
NA server is in NA.
There are only 2 servers, not 4. I just named them.
Lordrichter is correct, they do maint. at the same time because it caused problems when they tried to do as you suggest. So you can have your maint. at the same time as the NA server, or you can have it break and be down all day.
Megaserver IS a thing. I suggest...google...
You are welcome for the opportunity to play this amazing game. You are welcome that they cared enough to put a server over there in the first place.
Yeah it's a thing on Elder scrolls wiki to describe a singular network of servers. They lack servers and they lack the ability to perform services on them.
The game having maintenance at bad times. Bugs aren't fixed in minor patches. The server was offline for 8 hours on Monday. Don't accuse me of being privileged because they are providing a terrible service for what I paid for. Sub par for 70 pound.
Don't confuse the issue of needing to fix bugs with the server times.
These are two separate issues.
I'm not going to make a separate thread for them. Just make enough noise in this one so they at least HAVE to look.
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ScottK1994✭✭✭If every thing I accepted was binding I could get into trouble. The UK laws are above them to make sure I don't get scammed etc1
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Valen_Byte✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭ScottK1994 wrote: »
https://www.gov.uk/accepting-returns-and-giving-refundsValen_Byte wrote: »ScottK1994 wrote: »Valen_Byte wrote: »@FriedEggSandwich
After reading my post again, I agree. That last paragraph didn't exactly say what I meant lol
What I'm trying to say is...at times, we all (forum users) need to remember that playing this game is not a right, its a privilege. Always a little too much griping going on here. I am just glad to live in a free country where I can do whatever I want. There are people in the world who don't even have a floor in their shack let alone running water and electricity. Here we are QQ'ing about all our first word problems.
Didnt mean that one server is better or worse. Just be glad to be able to play a game.
EU trading laws make games a right not a privilege. How can people not know this?Verbalinkontinenz wrote: »
Picard facepalm FTW!
/thread
At the very least I can ask for a refund of the ESO plus I got last week.
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✭✭ScottK1994 wrote: »Verbalinkontinenz wrote: »no u cant, because of terms of service you read and subscribed.
Doesn't apply to UK law
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Niastissa✭✭✭ScottK1994 wrote: »Valen_Byte wrote: »@FriedEggSandwich
After reading my post again, I agree. That last paragraph didn't exactly say what I meant lol
What I'm trying to say is...at times, we all (forum users) need to remember that playing this game is not a right, its a privilege. Always a little too much griping going on here. I am just glad to live in a free country where I can do whatever I want. There are people in the world who don't even have a floor in their shack let alone running water and electricity. Here we are QQ'ing about all our first word problems.
Didnt mean that one server is better or worse. Just be glad to be able to play a game.
EU trading laws make games a right not a privilege. How can people not know this?
Any investor in Europe right now if aware of current issues would sue about the non-standard of game. They have advertised a working server so they need to provide by law in Europe a working server.
It is working if you are playing the game. You're sense of entitlement doesn't mean you don't have to deal with maintenance.3 -
ScottK1994✭✭✭14 days in any circumstance(except mentioned in the link)we have right to refund
It's not the problem anyway I also have the right to request repair.Edited by ScottK1994 on July 21, 2016 3:22AM0 -
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✭✭also uk has a contract law, which includes, that some parts of the law may be locked out by contracts.1 -
ScottK1994✭✭✭Verbalinkontinenz wrote: »also uk has a contract law, which includes, that some parts of the law may be locked out by contracts.
Yeah because that episode from South park is going to happen. No. Those terms of conditions may as well not exist for a lot of European gamers. Any thing that doesn't apply to our law doesn't apply at all. It should come up a list of our laws if anything0 -
ScottK1994✭✭✭It's bizarre do Americans really have to follow those terms of conditions? I thought it was just to prevent sueing for the selling of personal information? That's the point of most of the internet isn't it? Personal information0
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Verbalinkontinenz✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭why do u want to have your eso+ back? u didnt pay to get access to the game, u also have access to the game without paying a monthly fee. u pay for crowns, +xp and crafting bag.0 -
Verbalinkontinenz✭✭✭✭✭
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i am from germany, and in germany also that terms work.ScottK1994 wrote: »It's bizarre do Americans really have to follow those terms of conditions? I thought it was just to prevent sueing for the selling of personal information? That's the point of most of the internet isn't it? Personal informationEdited by Verbalinkontinenz on July 21, 2016 3:30AM0 -
ScottK1994✭✭✭I don't want a refund. Part of that law is the right to repair. I want the game at a working order.
Maintenance isn't part of that but this topic has become a collection of my peeves. Maintenance doesn't have to be early but it shouldn't be 8 hours. Unless they tell us beforehand. It's just good business to have a working game and treat your customers with understanding(just say "oh we thought we'd be done by now. We'll get back on it. Sorry." Instead of nothing until it came back online.
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ScottK1994✭✭✭Verbalinkontinenz wrote: »if u do not comply with the terms of services...
If they banned my account I could use the UK court system to reopen it. Obviously creating another account would be faster.
The UK law is the only law that applies to me. I cant be punished for accepting a terms of service saying "smoke some weed" and not smoking because it doesn't matter as all contracts are subjected to UK lawEdited by ScottK1994 on July 21, 2016 3:44AM0 -
Valen_Byte✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭They do that all the time. Gena, is very good about keeping us up to date when the severs are down for longer than expected times.
This 'list of complaints' so far only has one actual complaint as the rest have been proven to be inaccurate. As for the maint. times, if we go another 4 months without one, you wont care when they do it. Also, 8 hr maint is not the norm.
Jeez, Im starting to sound like a fanboy lol I assure you I'm not. I just like my complaints to have a bit more validity.***Dixon Kay MagDK FORMER EMPEROR***Deca Dix MagDK FORMER EMPORER***Valonious MagPlar FORMER EMPEROR***
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ScottK1994✭✭✭Valen_Byte wrote: »They do that all the time. Gena, is very good about keeping us up to date when the severs are down for longer than expected times.
This 'list of complaints' so far only has one actual complaint as the rest have been proven to be inaccurate. As for the maint. times, if we go another 4 months without one, you wont care when they do it. Also, 8 hr maint is not the norm.
Jeez, Im starting to sound like a fanboy lol I assure you I'm not. I just like my complaints to have a bit more validity.
How was a forum comment somewhere keeping up to date? I was watching the forums while it came back online there was no official thread.0 -
Niastissa✭✭✭ScottK1994 wrote: »I don't want a refund. Part of that law is the right to repair. I want the game at a working order.
Maintenance isn't part of that but this topic has become a collection of my peeves. Maintenance doesn't have to be early but it shouldn't be 8 hours. Unless they tell us beforehand. It's just good business to have a working game and treat your customers with understanding(just say "oh we thought we'd be done by now. We'll get back on it. Sorry." Instead of nothing until it came back online.
If the game wasn't working you wouldn't be complaining about not being able to play while it is offline for maintenance. On top of that being offline for maintenance is not the same as being broken.2 -
Wolfshead✭✭✭✭FriedEggSandwich wrote: »They used to be in the US, I was under the impression they were now in germany. My resting ping to the EU megaserver is 50ms and I live in the SW of the UK. Pretty sure I'd have more latency if they were still in the US.
EU megaserver is still in germany
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Wolfshead✭✭✭✭ScottK1994 wrote: »When the game launched the EU servers were in the US, but sometime in the first year they were moved to Europe.
The timing of the maintenance windows has nothing to do with it.
It's not though. American and European servers go off on the exact same second every time. They're either the two most in sync areas ever or they're the same
Honest ScottK are you when read what people are answer on your question or are you just troll people here???
Shut off both server at sametime both save time and are more efficient which also mean both server well get patch on same day not like blizzard make EU wait whole day long honest i personal think this way ZoS is doing is alot better and also EU megasrver is in germany.
Here is proof European Megaserver MigrationIf you find yourself alone, riding in green fields with the sun on your face, do not be troubled; for you are in Elysium, and you're already deadWhat we do in life, echoes in eternity0 -
ScottK1994✭✭✭Don't care if they're bad they shouldn't be bad at it.
Fun fact. When I bought the digital version of Destiny and it didn't have the advertised story mode I got a full refund0 -
ScottK1994✭✭✭Slammer99uk wrote: »OP's attitude makes me ashamed to be British.
Be proud that I'm Scottish and were leaving you lot soon0 -
ScottK1994✭✭✭A simple traceroute will tell you where the server is physically located ...
Not relevant anymore. The question has become why are the employers incharge of the servers so underexperienced or just plain crap. They need to fire and reemploy or get them trained properly. I've seen f2p games that didn't make millions through physical game sales that perform better0 -
Slammer99uk✭✭✭ScottK1994 wrote: »Slammer99uk wrote: »OP's attitude makes me ashamed to be British.
Be proud that I'm Scottish and were leaving you lot soon
Scottish = British, whether you like it or not you ignorant jock.
And you have just confirmed my theory, you are sitting behind that keyboard waiting to troll anyone hat dares hold a different view from you, and posts it in "your" thread, a thread that deserves to be closed, which is why I reported your homophobic posting in an effort to close it.
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Lucky28✭✭✭✭✭
✭i don't know where the EU server is. but it's actually not that uncommon for NA/EU servers to be in the same location in regards on MMO's.
just saying.Edited by Lucky28 on July 21, 2016 5:40AMInvictus0
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