Some ideas to improve 120-point Champion Passives

UltimaJoe777 · July 2016

Ok so these passives require you have 120 points invested in the constellation to apply, and yet most of them are quite underwhelming, borderline useless, or useless entirely. Oft times passives that require LESS points are actually BETTER in general. This said, I propose the following to improve those underwhelming passives:

Reinforced: Increase the Damage Shield strength of this effect.
Unchained: Leave it as is, or up the duration 1 or 2 seconds.
Determination: Increase the Damage Shield strength of this effect.

War Mount: Leave it as is. Nothing TO improve here beyond removing the restriction to outside combat only lol
Windrunning: Cut the cost of Sprinting outside of combat in half in addition to its current effects.
Shadowstrike: Leave it as is or change it so it increases damage inflicted by a stealth basic attack.

Arcane Well: Increase the radius of this passive considerably, or make it so the well stays there after appearing for several seconds.
Tactician: Leave it as is.
Last Stand: Change it so this passive grants more Ultimate over the 8 seconds or reduce the timer so the gain ticks faster.

These are my thoughts on ways to improve these passives but feel free to give your own input. As it stands now with a CP Cap in place these passives need to have more meaning for those that actually gun for them.

Amdar_Godkiller · July 2016

Yeah Last Stand is kind of garbage.

I personally love wind-running though as a TH/Bow Stam DK, because it synergizes so well with
Bow and Earthen Heart passives

I've soloed 3 Wrothgar World Bosses (the Abomination, the Dwemer, and the Goblin) due in
large part to roll dodging (major expedition from bow), sprinting around to recover magic (windrunning),
and then spam-casting igneous weapons/igneous shield for the Stamina returns from Helping Hands.

Never tried War Mount because I don't use many high cost stam skills. I usually stop at the inspiration boost
in that tree. Roll Dodge and Recovery are too important for me.

In general though, the far right and center green constellations give such terrible passives. Leveling some
of these trees feels like I'm running in a race that I don't even want to win, because at the finish line the
reward waiting for me is argonian swimming passives...

Master_Fluff · July 2016

Arcane Well has never triggered for any of the characters I have it on. Does it even work?

UltimaJoe777 · July 2016

Amdar_Godkiller wrote: »

Yeah Last Stand is kind of garbage.

I personally love wind-running though as a TH/Bow Stam DK, because it synergizes so well with
Bow and Earthen Heart passives

I've soloed 3 Wrothgar World Bosses (the Abomination, the Dwemer, and the Goblin) due in
large part to roll dodging (major expedition from bow), sprinting around to recover magic (windrunning),
and then spam-casting igneous weapons/igneous shield for the Stamina returns from Helping Hands.

Never tried War Mount because I don't use many high cost stam skills. I usually stop at the inspiration boost
in that tree. Roll Dodge and Recovery are too important for me.

In general though, the far right and center green constellations give such terrible passives. Leveling some
of these trees feels like I'm running in a race that I don't even want to win, because at the finish line the
reward waiting for me is argonian swimming passives...

Yeah I have nothing against Windrunning, just think it'd be awesome if it let us sprint much longer around the zones is all lol

War Mount actually only prevents your mount's stamina from dropping as you gallop while not engaged in combat. Has no effect on anything that uses your own stamina with the possible exception of Rapid Maneuver while mounted (haven't tested that). Thanks for proving my point from this thread though, much appreciated!

ulrik.igerupb16_ESO wrote: »

Arcane Well has never triggered for any of the characters I have it on. Does it even work?

Yes it does, but it can be hard to see in the thick of battle. In order to acquire the Magicka from it though you have to basically hold the mob's hand as it dies.

Refuse2GrowUp · July 2016

UltimaJoe777 wrote: »

Last Stand: Change it so this passive grants more Ultimate over the 8 seconds or reduce the timer so the gain ticks faster

This passive shouldn't even be in the stam offensive tree. Stam DKs and Stam NBs have low cost, high impact ultimates and generating extra ultimate for these toons is just silly. Last Stand should be more of a tank skill line. So, I vote no to increasing the ult gain from this passive. And btw, before you assume I am hating on stam, I play my stam DK dps more than anything else.

Refuse2GrowUp · July 2016

ulrik.igerupb16_ESO wrote: »

Arcane Well has never triggered for any of the characters I have it on. Does it even work?

It triggers quite often, simply you must be in very close contact with the enemy that is killed to benefit from it. Pay close attention to enemies you kill, the arcane well looks like a blue splash/glow. For the longest time I thought it was the soul steal proc that fills your sould gems before I realized it was the arcane well proc.

Leandor · July 2016

ulrik.igerupb16_ESO wrote: »

Arcane Well has never triggered for any of the characters I have it on. Does it even work?

It's actually quite good, if you're a melee magicka class. I love it on my magplar and magblade.

UltimaJoe777 · July 2016

Refuse2GrowUp wrote:

UltimaJoe777 wrote: »

Last Stand: Change it so this passive grants more Ultimate over the 8 seconds or reduce the timer so the gain ticks faster

This passive shouldn't even be in the stam offensive tree. Stam DKs and Stam NBs have low cost, high impact ultimates and generating extra ultimate for these toons is just silly. Last Stand should be more of a tank skill line. So, I vote no to increasing the ult gain from this passive. And btw, before you assume I am hating on stam, I play my stam DK dps more than anything else.

Wasn't going to assume that lol I am well aware this passive is not as useless as it looks but for what is required to unlock it it could be even SLIGHTLY better. Also yes I agree there are passives in constellations they would be better off not in but until Wrobel gets them fixated properly all we can do is deal...

BruhItsOver9000 · July 2016

Please don't change the shadowstrike passive. It's a great passive for gank builds.

UltimaJoe777 · July 2016

BruhItsOver9000 wrote: »

Please don't change the shadowstrike passive. It's a great passive for gank builds.

Congrats man, you just made me wish we still had the LOL button for the first time