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Still no fixes for sorcs
cosmic_niklas_93b16_ESO
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When will you make sorcs good again, ZoS? They've been murdered ever since the dark brotherhood came and went on a killing spree against them.
R.I.P. Daranth Spellborn
VR16 Dunmer Sorcerer
March 2014 - May 2016
He was a skilled Crafter and a reliable Sorcerer;
Then came the Dark Brotherhood
Wrobel wrote: Surge is now more effective for tank characters.
Because crit tanks are so good, LOL. xD
VR16 Dunmer Sorcerer
March 2014 - May 2016
He was a skilled Crafter and a reliable Sorcerer;
Then came the Dark Brotherhood
Wrobel wrote: Surge is now more effective for tank characters.
Because crit tanks are so good, LOL. xD
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✭they never listen feedbacks even tho they make thread about it:(:(:(Plays:
Magicka SORC - PvE/PvP
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Magicka NB - PvE/PvP
Magicka Templar - PvE
Stamina Templar - PvP
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✭✭✭✭Sorcs are finally balanced. I honestly think them, magica NB and magica Dk are where everything else should be.7 -
cosmic_niklas_93b16_ESO✭✭✭✭✭Sorcs are finally balanced. I honestly think them, magica NB and magica Dk are where everything else should be.
Yeah, they're so balanced that noone plays them anymore. Definition of balanced when noone plays the class, right? :PR.I.P. Daranth Spellborn
VR16 Dunmer Sorcerer
March 2014 - May 2016
He was a skilled Crafter and a reliable Sorcerer;
Then came the Dark Brotherhood
Wrobel wrote: Surge is now more effective for tank characters.
Because crit tanks are so good, LOL. xD2 -
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✭✭cosmic_niklas_93b16_ESO wrote: »
Have you tried the elegance set?P2P offered you 'hell yeah!' moments. F2P offers you 'thank god its over' moments.0 -
Turelus✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭cosmic_niklas_93b16_ESO wrote: »
Confirming I don't see any sorcs at all in the game any more. Those negates in PvP were all coming from the Nightblades.
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cosmic_niklas_93b16_ESO✭✭✭✭✭cosmic_niklas_93b16_ESO wrote: »
Confirming I don't see any sorcs at all in the game any more. Those negates in PvP were all coming from the Nightblades.
Concidering ZoS is handing out sorc skills to all classes all the time I wouldn't be surprised. :PR.I.P. Daranth Spellborn
VR16 Dunmer Sorcerer
March 2014 - May 2016
He was a skilled Crafter and a reliable Sorcerer;
Then came the Dark Brotherhood
Wrobel wrote: Surge is now more effective for tank characters.
Because crit tanks are so good, LOL. xD5 -
luen79rwb17_ESO✭✭✭✭✭
✭Sorcs are finally balanced. I honestly think them, magica NB and magica Dk are where everything else should be.
From a PVP perspective, I disagree. Stam builds are way too OP as of now, especially stam NB.
I do agree that magicka sorcs are not such an ez-mode anymore, but they're still viable (my personal experience and watching other sorcs).
Sorcs do need, I.M.O. a slight buff to their PVE builds/damage in order to be comparable to the rest of the classes (too many toggles, too few usefull passives, alot of useless skills) but that's not what this thread is about I believe even though some of those reasons could also apply to PVP to some extent .PC/DC/NAserver
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Dracane✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭I don't see any magicka Sorcerers anywhere. The only Sorcs are stam Sorcs (which are good now) and some of these Magicka Sorcs that you can just one shot because hardened ward is underpowered as hell and the only way for a Sorc to survive is shield stacking.
Magicka Sorcerer has no identity and no strenghts over other classes. It's a shame that nothing was changed or fixed.Auri-El is my lord,
Trinimac is my shield,
Magnus is my mind.
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Archmage1✭✭✭Yes, please breath some life into magicka sorcs. We cannot compete with the other classes in both PvP and PvE.1
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Dracane✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Make magicka DK good again in PvP before sorcs get anything.
As long as Magicka DK can have permanent immunity against 95% of all ranged attacks, I rather don't see them buffed. They are super strong when played right.Auri-El is my lord,
Trinimac is my shield,
Magnus is my mind.
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TheHsN✭✭✭✭✭
✭Sorcs are finally balanced. I honestly think them, magica NB and magica Dk are where everything else should be.
yes very balanced.... for balance for u to be able to kill them as easy as you can....
no one wants them in trials or dungeon that they are dps lose or time lose...
thank to "W"Plays:
Magicka SORC - PvE/PvP
Stamina NB - PvE/PvP
Magicka NB - PvE/PvP
Magicka Templar - PvE
Stamina Templar - PvP
Magicka DK - PvE
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✭✭✭✭✭I don't see any magicka Sorcerers anywhere. The only Sorcs are stam Sorcs (which are good now) and some of these Magicka Sorcs that you can just one shot because hardened ward is underpowered as hell and the only way for a Sorc to survive is shield stacking.
Magicka Sorcerer has no identity and no strenghts over other classes. It's a shame that nothing was changed or fixed.
I remember telling people a while ago that Stam Sorcs are super good now right before the new patch was coming out; and a bunch of Bad Sorcs telling me no they are super *** and I had no idea what i'm talking about.
Low and behold....now everyone is saying Magicka Sorcs are *** and Stam Sorcs are good (By the way...both are good)
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✭Good is relative, playable yes. But, the other 3 classes can bring more dps and utility as either stam or mag. So I would not say they are "Good", for example, if you had 1 open raid DPS slot it would/should go to a Mag NB or Stam DK. Unless you don't have any other options or just don't care about maximizing dps etc. PVP is different and really who cares, you can play anyway you want and do ok in PvP0 -
Dracane✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭I don't see any magicka Sorcerers anywhere. The only Sorcs are stam Sorcs (which are good now) and some of these Magicka Sorcs that you can just one shot because hardened ward is underpowered as hell and the only way for a Sorc to survive is shield stacking.
Magicka Sorcerer has no identity and no strenghts over other classes. It's a shame that nothing was changed or fixed.
I remember telling people a while ago that Stam Sorcs are super good now right before the new patch was coming out; and a bunch of Bad Sorcs telling me no they are super *** and I had no idea what i'm talking about.
Low and behold....now everyone is saying Magicka Sorcs are *** and Stam Sorcs are good (By the way...both are good)
Stam Sorcs are, Mag Sorcs not at all
went all the way from best Magicka class to the worst in just 1 year. Edited by Dracane on July 6, 2016 5:17PMAuri-El is my lord,
Trinimac is my shield,
Magnus is my mind.
My debut album on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@Gleandra/videos1 -
cosmic_niklas_93b16_ESO✭✭✭✭✭I don't see any magicka Sorcerers anywhere. The only Sorcs are stam Sorcs (which are good now) and some of these Magicka Sorcs that you can just one shot because hardened ward is underpowered as hell and the only way for a Sorc to survive is shield stacking.
Magicka Sorcerer has no identity and no strenghts over other classes. It's a shame that nothing was changed or fixed.
I remember telling people a while ago that Stam Sorcs are super good now right before the new patch was coming out; and a bunch of Bad Sorcs telling me no they are super *** and I had no idea what i'm talking about.
Low and behold....now everyone is saying Magicka Sorcs are *** and Stam Sorcs are good (By the way...both are good)
Stam Sorcs are, Mag Sorcs not at all went all the way from best Magicka class to the worst in just 1 year.
Yep, I wouldn't play my sorc now even if I got paid for it, lol. No need to play the worst class for magicka in the game when anything else performs better.R.I.P. Daranth Spellborn
VR16 Dunmer Sorcerer
March 2014 - May 2016
He was a skilled Crafter and a reliable Sorcerer;
Then came the Dark Brotherhood
Wrobel wrote: Surge is now more effective for tank characters.
Because crit tanks are so good, LOL. xD3 -
Kammakazi✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Just make a Stamina Sorc.
I converted my Breton Sorc into Stamina and I love it.
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cosmic_niklas_93b16_ESO✭✭✭✭✭Just make a Stamina Sorc.
I converted my Breton Sorc into Stamina and I love it.
Lmfao
I would never make a stam sorc, lol. It doesn't work with what a sorcerer is for me. Just doesn't make sense for me. :PR.I.P. Daranth Spellborn
VR16 Dunmer Sorcerer
March 2014 - May 2016
He was a skilled Crafter and a reliable Sorcerer;
Then came the Dark Brotherhood
Wrobel wrote: Surge is now more effective for tank characters.
Because crit tanks are so good, LOL. xD3 -
Birdovic✭✭✭✭✭cosmic_niklas_93b16_ESO wrote: »
Now I could say "according to Lore..." and you knew where this Is Going
Just to let you know, I started with a Hybrid, went to Magicka and Play Stamina now aswell^^
But anyway, this Is about Magicka Sorc I guess.Have you tried the elegance set?
@khele23eb17_ESO
A class' Balance Should not be depending on 1-2 Sets.Attempt and Thoughts to Overhaul Scaling, Attribute System and Enchantments
Improving the Sorcerer class: Ideas
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cosmic_niklas_93b16_ESO✭✭✭✭✭cosmic_niklas_93b16_ESO wrote: »
Now I could say "according to Lore..." and you knew where this Is Going
Just to let you know, I started with a Hybrid, went to Magicka and Play Stamina now aswell^^
But anyway, this Is about Magicka Sorc I guess.Have you tried the elegance set?
@khele23eb17_ESO
A class' Balance Should not be depending on 1-2 Sets.
I know the lore, but for me a sorcerer is a long range, high damage dealer like in most other games and lore. It's like having a magical barbarian berserker for me, just doesn't make sense. xD
And yeah, I agree that a class can't be balanced around one set, that's just dumb, lol.
R.I.P. Daranth Spellborn
VR16 Dunmer Sorcerer
March 2014 - May 2016
He was a skilled Crafter and a reliable Sorcerer;
Then came the Dark Brotherhood
Wrobel wrote: Surge is now more effective for tank characters.
Because crit tanks are so good, LOL. xD0 -
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✭✭✭cosmic_niklas_93b16_ESO wrote: »cosmic_niklas_93b16_ESO wrote: »
Now I could say "according to Lore..." and you knew where this Is Going
Just to let you know, I started with a Hybrid, went to Magicka and Play Stamina now aswell^^
But anyway, this Is about Magicka Sorc I guess.Have you tried the elegance set?
@khele23eb17_ESO
A class' Balance Should not be depending on 1-2 Sets.
I know the lore, but for me a sorcerer is a long range, high damage dealer like in most other games and lore. It's like having a magical barbarian berserker for me, just doesn't make sense. xD
And yeah, I agree that a class can't be balanced around one set, that's just dumb, lol.
Sounds like a class name change to remove the word sorcerer might help.
Maybe Conjurer?
Could you abide that class name paired with these traits better?
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It fails badly at being a Conjurer, so better just keep the universally applicable Name that is "Sorcerer".Attempt and Thoughts to Overhaul Scaling, Attribute System and Enchantments
Improving the Sorcerer class: Ideas
"We want firing off Dark Exchange in the middle of Combat to feel awesome"0 -
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✭✭✭So far stam sorcs became amazing and fun, now magicka sorcs that aren't running elegance I seen them having trouble carrying a spell in a bucket much less being accepted to do anything with dungeon, trial, or pvp wise. My gf and I used to run as a duo me on stam sorc her on magic sorc but soon as db went live it was like carrying an npc with me. She switched to a similar stam sorc build an started wrecking the tougher bosses in dungeons and rarely dying.0 -
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✭✭I'm going to stop trying to make people reasonable. Sorcs aren't useless or dead or any of that nonesense. My sorcs is still great.@ Izaki #PCEU
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✭✭I don't see any magicka Sorcerers anywhere. The only Sorcs are stam Sorcs (which are good now) and some of these Magicka Sorcs that you can just one shot because hardened ward is underpowered as hell and the only way for a Sorc to survive is shield stacking.
Magicka Sorcerer has no identity and no strenghts over other classes. It's a shame that nothing was changed or fixed.
So have you played a stam sorc ? They are good now, are they ? Well... I guess. They are still one of the worst stamina classes but I guess if you say they are good enough then you're right. They've got mobility and good sustain. Damage dealing on the other hand is pretty limited. You see they've got no Poisonous Claw/Noxious Breath/Dragon Leap, they got no Biting Jabs/Javelin, they've got no Surprise Attack/Ambush/Incapacitating Strike/Relentless Focus/all the other stamina morphs for nightblades. So yeah tell me that stam sorc is good enough and doesn't need serious improvements.
Magicka sorcs have always lacked utility. Thats the only problem with the class. They can do crazy damage : my C-Frags when fully buffed can hit for around 35k on a crit with self buffs only, Meteor can hit for over 50k with a War Horn and TBS (aka in Trials). In PvP Frags would reach around 15k on the lucky hits and the average would still be around 12k. I'm not even at cappped CP.
Why would you want to get untied from a Destro Staff ? Are you gonna swing those swords when Dual Wielding or Spin-To-Win ? Obviously no, so why do you hate your inferno staff that much ? Crushing Shock/Force Pulse are good skills and if people won't use it then what's the point of that skill's existance ?
The Execute does start functioning a bit late though, 20% health is too low to be really useful. I like the explosion though because you can set up very nice bursts with it.
Surge heals are different, but still good. In PvE when you place your Liquid Lightning and your Elemental Blockade you will not have too much trouble staying at full health. In PvP your frags won't heal you to full health anymore, which does kinda suck but hey we gotta adapt right ?
Shields. Yeah 6 sec is very annoying. But then I got used to it. You can still shield stack if you absolutely need to. You can still take a 20k hit from Voriak Solkyn's skull attack and be at full health. Now tell me how often have your shields lasted in PvP. You used to be able to tank out 1 Wrecking Blow and still be untouched. Has that changed ? NO ! Shields are just as strong as they used to be. The duration is a pain but you get used to it.
Stop whining about insignificant stuff and adress real problems in the sorc class, aka toggles, pets, lack of utility. And maybe make a couple of threads for magicka DK's, they need a buff more than us sorcs do.@ Izaki #PCEU
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Xundiin✭✭✭✭I don't see any magicka Sorcerers anywhere. The only Sorcs are stam Sorcs (which are good now) and some of these Magicka Sorcs that you can just one shot because hardened ward is underpowered as hell and the only way for a Sorc to survive is shield stacking.
Magicka Sorcerer has no identity and no strenghts over other classes. It's a shame that nothing was changed or fixed.
I remember telling people a while ago that Stam Sorcs are super good now right before the new patch was coming out; and a bunch of Bad Sorcs telling me no they are super *** and I had no idea what i'm talking about.
Low and behold....now everyone is saying Magicka Sorcs are *** and Stam Sorcs are good (By the way...both are good)
The only reason stamsorcs are good right now is because of the weapon pass that last patch did. If you took that away, sorcs are the worst class in the game. The have little to nothing that is a decent skill or passive that can't be used by anotehr class. This is what sorcs are pissed about. Other classes have a niche, something that make that class unique.... sorcs are just kinda there. They bring nothing to the table. Try doing a trial with out one of the other classes in the group. not even one. You feel the difference in the performance of that group almost immediate. Now remove sorcs from that group... nothing changes. Now add them back in... do you even notice a difference? Nope, because they bring nothing to the table that makes them stand out.
Between the awful design of the pets and that sorcs are THE ONLY CLASS to have a toggle still makes them one of the least flexible classes to make builds for. Then add into that they don't have major mending, major fracture, or major brutality. The only buff we get is major savagery which is tied to a skill that was used more for defense than offense and can easily be replaced now with a pot. While other classes get 2-3 of those buffs just in their class skill lines. This is an issue that need to be addressed.#SavePlayer10 -
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✭✭I still love my Sorc, can't wait to get the necropotance set.
Maybe they should add a jewlery enchantment that adds 2-3 seconds to shields so you can add 6-9 seconds to shield duration at the cost of offensive or recovery enchantmenrsXbox GT: Rex Umbrah
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Caza99✭✭✭✭I don't see any magicka Sorcerers anywhere. The only Sorcs are stam Sorcs (which are good now) and some of these Magicka Sorcs that you can just one shot because hardened ward is underpowered as hell and the only way for a Sorc to survive is shield stacking.
Magicka Sorcerer has no identity and no strenghts over other classes. It's a shame that nothing was changed or fixed.
I remember telling people a while ago that Stam Sorcs are super good now right before the new patch was coming out; and a bunch of Bad Sorcs telling me no they are super *** and I had no idea what i'm talking about.
Low and behold....now everyone is saying Magicka Sorcs are *** and Stam Sorcs are good (By the way...both are good)
Stam Sorcs are, Mag Sorcs not at all went all the way from best Magicka class to the worst in just 1 year.
Well from a pvp perspective, Worst Magicka Class title still belongs to magicka DK. Magicka sorcs are still good guys jeezPC NA - @MercerESO1 -
Zaryc✭✭✭I don't see any magicka Sorcerers anywhere. The only Sorcs are stam Sorcs (which are good now) and some of these Magicka Sorcs that you can just one shot because hardened ward is underpowered as hell and the only way for a Sorc to survive is shield stacking.
Magicka Sorcerer has no identity and no strenghts over other classes. It's a shame that nothing was changed or fixed.
I remember telling people a while ago that Stam Sorcs are super good now right before the new patch was coming out; and a bunch of Bad Sorcs telling me no they are super *** and I had no idea what i'm talking about.
Low and behold....now everyone is saying Magicka Sorcs are *** and Stam Sorcs are good (By the way...both are good)
Stam Sorcs are, Mag Sorcs not at all went all the way from best Magicka class to the worst in just 1 year.
Well from a pvp perspective, Worst Magicka Class title still belongs to magicka DK. Magicka sorcs are still good guys jeez
Magicka DKs are only that bad in solo play, in duels, small groups and zergs they are viable and pretty good imo (well, which class isn't viable in zergs...). The only usefull thing a magicka sorc brings for groupplay is negate tho. And stam sorcs can also use negate and they have higher dmg output and better sustain. So even then stam sorc > magicka sorc this patch.
When you are talking from a purely solo perspective, then you're right.0
