Calling all magDKs

Kilandros · July 2016

Both heavy and light armor are equally viable and it ultimately comes down preference. On my mDK I always carry a set of light Kags and heavy Kags, and a set of light Tavas and heavy Tavas. That being said, I typically use 5 light / 2 heavy 90% of the time.

I think mDK more than any class depends on figuring out what works best for you. This goes for skills/armor/CPs, etc. There are some exceptional mDK players in this thread who run and succeed with very different builds. @Lyar09 you're an awesome player so you'll have no problems figuring out a build that works for you and your group rather quickly.

All that being said, I look forward to hearing what you think of the class in a month or two. For me, mDK is both the most frustrating and most rewarding class in the game. It's frustrating because it has so many glaring shortcomings that could be so easily fixed. And it's rewarding because it's a difficult class that when played right can really shine, particularly in chokes and area control.

Ghostbane · July 2016

Kagoky wrote: »

I previously made a dunmer magdk, and switched over to imperial running full heavy/impen.

I run destro/resto and use light/heavy attacks as main dps, on top of DoTs. Probably the most op class I have played so far, and my have no problem 1vXing.

Problem is that most builds, if not all build's out there are for end game play. However, if you can own people being just above level 10 who are 30 levels higher, then you know it will be op once you start including CP.

I have videos I can share on how to utilize the build as well.

Hell I went to scourge yesterday and owned people (1v1) with CP 300-400 easily as a level 30 magdk, with my hp not even going less than half.

Imperial mDK OP.

Fly dat flag.

TrueGreenSmoker · July 2016

AverageJo3Gam3r wrote: »

Lexxypwns wrote: »

TrueGreenSmoker wrote: »

Isnt the lich set good? i never grind dolmans might have if i didnt kill the generals already lol.. and buying it is just too much for me so anyone has the 5 piece and tried it with another set? just want to know how that works out

Lich is great, however it comes in bad traits, you'll only be able to run 4 sturdy/impen with it. However, you can run it and not need atro stone

@TrueGreenSmoker @Lexxypwns the problem with lich is that it forces you to give up bloodspawn. Most mDK burst comes from ultimates so you're losing a lot to get that little bit of regen.

True true i myself dont use Bloodspawn i use 5Kag 2/3Torugs(depends on if im going S&B or Destro) 1Kena 3 willpower 5Light 1 medium 1 heavy Infused/Divines on gear. Its not that good but also not that bad either but i have been thinking about getting 3 Magnus piece instead of Torugs and i know heavy is better for Mag Dk i have 5Kag heavy but i like to play with Light armour idk why lol

Joy_Division · July 2016

Played a lot on my DK this patch for first time in about a year. I've tried heavy and light.

I liked the durability heavy gives you, but even with Black Rose and the heavy armor "buffs" from Wrobel, I found it too taxing on my magicka pool. Others have not had these issues, my guess is that this is more of a playstyle thing since I'm guilty of spamming skills. If you also find yourself doing this, I would go for light armor. I think heavy is a strong option for players used to judicious casting.

I agree with @Ishammael that in the end, still the best route of durability for DKs is through block, which is another reason I like light armor. Kags is I still think the most versatile and 'easiest' set. Tavas is a strong alternative if you can manage to have the stam for blocking, CC breaking, and keeping shuffle up. It isn't easy.

On a related note which I think we all can agree, the inefficiency of Dragon's Blood skill plays way too large of a negative role in build choices. I think a restoration staff is the easiest solution, but other players have managed with the igneous shield + Dragon Blood + extra healing from somewhere to make double sword and shield work.

YeahOmar · July 2016

Dark Elf Master Race mate...Thats all u need to know

Lexxypwns · July 2016

AverageJo3Gam3r wrote: »

Lexxypwns wrote: »

TrueGreenSmoker wrote: »

Isnt the lich set good? i never grind dolmans might have if i didnt kill the generals already lol.. and buying it is just too much for me so anyone has the 5 piece and tried it with another set? just want to know how that works out

Lich is great, however it comes in bad traits, you'll only be able to run 4 sturdy/impen with it. However, you can run it and not need atro stone

@TrueGreenSmoker @Lexxypwns the problem with lich is that it forces you to give up bloodspawn. Most mDK burst comes from ultimates so you're losing a lot to get that little bit of regen.

This is 100% true. The purpose of running lich on a mDK would be to have to rely less on Ults for burst though, since you won't need atro or anymore regen you can run 3 willpower all spell dam enchants, 5 julianos, and shadow/Mage/apprentice for more burst, which makes up for the loss of blood spawn. It isn't my preference to play this way, but it is viable, with warlock back next patch it's likely not worth farming. Lich if you don't have it already

Hektik_V · July 2016

The sun set next patch giving I think like 400 spell damage with flame based attacks could be interesting for PvP.

Aenlir · July 2016

Hektik_V wrote: »

The sun set next patch giving I think like 400 spell damage with flame based attacks could be interesting for PvP.

Shhhhh

forzajuve212 · July 2016

Hektik_V wrote: »

The sun set next patch giving I think like 400 spell damage with flame based attacks could be interesting for PvP.

5 Kags 5 Sun 2 blood here i come

Lord_Hev · July 2016

Until you realize silk sun armor pieces do not drop impen, and trying to farm sharpened silk sword is next to impossible due to trait loot-table dilution.

forzajuve212 · July 2016

Lord_Hev wrote: »

Until you realize silk sun armor pieces do not drop impen, and trying to farm sharpened silk sword is next to impossible due to trait loot-table dilution.

bah

it's gonna be so damn expensive at first

DKsUnite · July 2016

Lord_Hev wrote: »

Until you realize silk sun armor pieces do not drop impen, and trying to farm sharpened silk sword is next to impossible due to trait loot-table dilution.

The sword will be a pain

Aerem · July 2016

DKsUnite wrote: »

Lord_Hev wrote: »

Until you realize silk sun armor pieces do not drop impen, and trying to farm sharpened silk sword is next to impossible due to trait loot-table dilution.

The sword will be a pain

I see I am not the only one theory crafting with this set. It gives DK's burst, I am pretty stoked for it.

IxskullzxI · July 2016

Lord_Hev wrote: »

Until you realize silk sun armor pieces do not drop impen, and trying to farm sharpened silk sword is next to impossible due to trait loot-table dilution.

Does it for sure not drop in impen?

NBrookus · July 2016

IxskullzxI wrote: »

Lord_Hev wrote: »

Until you realize silk sun armor pieces do not drop impen, and trying to farm sharpened silk sword is next to impossible due to trait loot-table dilution.

Does it for sure not drop in impen?

ZOS said they were willing to listen to feedback about adding impen to the pve loot tables, but at the moment, no.

IxskullzxI · July 2016

NBrookus wrote: »

IxskullzxI wrote: »

Lord_Hev wrote: »

Until you realize silk sun armor pieces do not drop impen, and trying to farm sharpened silk sword is next to impossible due to trait loot-table dilution.

Does it for sure not drop in impen?

ZOS said they were willing to listen to feedback about adding impen to the pve loot tables, but at the moment, no.

Does it at least come in sturdy?

Kartalin · July 2016

"IxskullzxI wrote: »

Does it at least come in sturdy?

Imagine the absurdity of this statement a couple months ago.

I tend to run my mDK as a debuff/root/cc knight. 5 black rose, 5 fasalla, 2 blood. My spell damage is crap though and it really only works in a group with heals and good dps, but it's a lot of fun.

NBrookus · July 2016

IxskullzxI wrote: »

NBrookus wrote: »

IxskullzxI wrote: »

Lord_Hev wrote: »

Until you realize silk sun armor pieces do not drop impen, and trying to farm sharpened silk sword is next to impossible due to trait loot-table dilution.

Does it for sure not drop in impen?

ZOS said they were willing to listen to feedback about adding impen to the pve loot tables, but at the moment, no.

Does it at least come in sturdy?

The new dungeon sets do but I'm not sure about the revamped trial sets.

IxskullzxI · July 2016

Kartalin wrote: »

"IxskullzxI wrote: »

Does it at least come in sturdy?

Imagine the absurdity of this statement a couple months ago.

I tend to run my mDK as a debuff/root/cc knight. 5 black rose, 5 fasalla, 2 blood. My spell damage is crap though and it really only works in a group with heals and good dps, but it's a lot of fun.

Right. I never thought I would be hopefully for sturdy to drop.

NBrookus wrote: »

IxskullzxI wrote: »

NBrookus wrote: »

IxskullzxI wrote: »

Lord_Hev wrote: »

Until you realize silk sun armor pieces do not drop impen, and trying to farm sharpened silk sword is next to impossible due to trait loot-table dilution.

Does it for sure not drop in impen?

ZOS said they were willing to listen to feedback about adding impen to the pve loot tables, but at the moment, no.

Does it at least come in sturdy?

The new dungeon sets do but I'm not sure about the revamped trial sets.

It would be a shame if they don't at least come in sturdy.

rfennell_ESO · July 2016

The general problem with heavy armor magicka dk builds is that most experienced pvpers will choose to not fight you, and there is nothing you can do to stop that.

Even the best laid out build will have the issue of "I can just leave the fight with you" and there is little to nothing you can do about it.

I don't think it really kills the build or the style, it's just not worth fighting someone for 10 minutes.

However, in locations (like keeps, flags etc) where just ignoring the dk isn't exactly an option, it's very strong.

Aerem · July 2016

Has ZOS confirmed Silks of Sun will come in more weapons (like maybe a shield)? I've heard rumors, but as of now I thought the sword was the only weapon. I really hope they add impen to the loot table for it, I need that ish.

vortexman11 · July 2016

Aerem wrote: »

Has ZOS confirmed Silks of Sun will come in more weapons (like maybe a shield)? I've heard rumors, but as of now I thought the sword was the only weapon. I really hope they add impen to the loot table for it, I need that ish.

It was confirmed that all the new and updated sets will have all jewlery and weapons

KenaPKK · July 2016

yodased wrote: »

I'm working on something right now which I think is going to be fun

5piece elegant
5 piece vicious death
1 piece molag Kena

Super heavy Attack bomb

Aaaaah!!

I was just about to go to sleep. Y u give me nightmares?

bebynnag · July 2016

my DE vamp (Drusilla The Bloody) is my fave character to play, basically because it fits my play style, i am more of a group player in both PvE & PvP

atm trying (not made my mind up either way yet needs more tests)

julianus, elegant valkyn PvE
Julianus Vicious death Valkyn PvP

forzajuve212 · July 2016

On pts there is no jewelry or swords, not sure why

Rylana · July 2016

rfennell_ESO wrote: »

The general problem with heavy armor magicka dk builds is that most experienced pvpers will choose to not fight you, and there is nothing you can do to stop that.

Even the best laid out build will have the issue of "I can just leave the fight with you" and there is little to nothing you can do about it.

I don't think it really kills the build or the style, it's just not worth fighting someone for 10 minutes.

However, in locations (like keeps, flags etc) where just ignoring the dk isn't exactly an option, it's very strong.

Nail meet head. And that is why i favor the spec, its nearly impossible to gank, usually gets left alone on focus fire while throwing dots, pressure damage, and CC everywhere, and in keeps becomes something you dont want near you.

General utility and not falling over dead every 10 seconds trumps raw damage, and has been my philosophy for a long time. I aint gonna win any duels with my spec, nor am I going to burst down a pro, but the chances of anyone (short of someone completely specced intentionally to take me down personally by analyzing my build and whatnot) killing my MDK solo are very very low, almost nonexistant.

Lord_Hev · July 2016

Lord_Hev wrote: »

Last Stand passive is broken, and has not worked since it's inception in 1.6...

According to PTS patch notes it has -finally- been fixed but I have yet to test it.

I can confirm the Last Stand passive after an entire year.... Finally works.(on current PTS) There is some potential for DKs now... That said, you give up even more damage if you want to spec into this, but I think it's something work experimenting.

@DKsUnite @Ishammael @Princess_Asgari @vortexman11

DKsUnite · July 2016

Lord_Hev wrote: »

Lord_Hev wrote: »

Last Stand passive is broken, and has not worked since it's inception in 1.6...

According to PTS patch notes it has -finally- been fixed but I have yet to test it.

I can confirm the Last Stand passive after an entire year.... Finally works.(on current PTS) There is some potential for DKs now... That said, you give up even more damage if you want to spec into this, but I think it's something work experimenting.

@DKsUnite @Ishammael @Princess_Asgari @vortexman11

Bruh if I drop below 25% I'm dead...

Lord_Hev · July 2016

DKsUnite wrote: »

Lord_Hev wrote: »

Lord_Hev wrote: »

Last Stand passive is broken, and has not worked since it's inception in 1.6...

According to PTS patch notes it has -finally- been fixed but I have yet to test it.

I can confirm the Last Stand passive after an entire year.... Finally works.(on current PTS) There is some potential for DKs now... That said, you give up even more damage if you want to spec into this, but I think it's something work experimenting.

@DKsUnite @Ishammael @Princess_Asgari @vortexman11

Bruh if I drop below 25% I'm dead...

But that's when you get the best mileage out of Dragon Blood!

Blackfyre20 · July 2016

forzajuve212 wrote: »

Hektik_V wrote: »

The sun set next patch giving I think like 400 spell damage with flame based attacks could be interesting for PvP.

5 Kags 5 Sun 2 blood here i come

Will silks have rings now?