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Here is the good side of forums.
I must point out the goodness that's on this website.
There is way to much ESO bashing going on.
1. News & Website Article Discussions this is ESO sharing good latest news.
2. Patch Notes & Hotfixes this is ESO giving you updates on what they have currently fixed in response to all your complaining.
Players in this forum need to start sharing what they love about ESO so they can encourage others to adopt this as a new game and to encourage older players to keep enjoying the ESO experience.
Edited by Love_Daggerfall on July 2, 2016 12:10AM I must point out the goodness that's on this website.
There is way to much ESO bashing going on.
1. News & Website Article Discussions this is ESO sharing good latest news.
2. Patch Notes & Hotfixes this is ESO giving you updates on what they have currently fixed in response to all your complaining.
Players in this forum need to start sharing what they love about ESO so they can encourage others to adopt this as a new game and to encourage older players to keep enjoying the ESO experience.
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Love_Daggerfall✭✭✭[snip] How come you can only get a edit button for your last post. Any other post you mad the edit button is removed so there is no way to correct mistakes?
[edited for inappropriate comment]Edited by ZOS_CoriJ on July 2, 2016 3:24PM0 -
Lysette✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Just know, that I feel with you, I followed a couple of threads from you and I think you were in a situation, where you just needed the contact to other members on the forums and to hear some good will from them. I did not feel that this would be disruptive at all, even it was off topic. But we are all human - or should be - and sometimes "business as usual" is not the morally correct way to go, even it might be that way, which sticks to the rules. A little empathy is required with it.3 -
BlackSparrow✭✭✭✭✭
✭Love_Daggerfall wrote: »Edit
How come you can only get a edit button for your last post. Any other post you mad the edit button is removed so there is no way to correct mistakes?
To edit the first post of a thread, look up at the title of the thread. There should be a gear icon there.
Living vicariously through my characters.
My Girls:"If you were trapped in your house for, say, a year, how would you pass the time?"
Nephikah the Houseless, dunmer assassin: "I suppose I could use the break. I have a lot of business holdings now that need management."
Swum-Many-Waters, elderly argonian healer: "I think that I would enjoy writing a memoir."
Silh'ki, khajiit warrior-chef: "Would this one be able to go outside, to the nearby river? It's hard to fish without water!"
Peregrine Huntress, bosmer hunter: "Who is forcing me to stay inside, and where can I find them?"
Lorenyawe, altmer mechanist: "And why would I want to go outside in the first place? Too much to be done in the workshop."
Lorelai Magpie, breton master thief: "I'd go nuts. Lucky for me, I have a little experience sneaking out!"
Rasheda the Burning Heart, redguard knight: "I would continue my training to keep my skills sharp."
Hex-Eye Azabi, khajiit daedric priestess: "I suppose it would be lucky, then, that I built a shrine to Mephala in my backyard."
Yngva Stormhammer, nord bandit (reformed...ish): "I hate being inside even when I'm not forced to be. GET. ME. OUT."
Madam Argentia, vampire dunmer aristocrat: "I suppose it would be more of the same. I have a rather... contentious relationship with the sun."
Mazie gra-Bolga, orc scout: "Uh... I'd have to house train my bear..."
Felicia the Wanderer, imperial witch-for-hire: "What Lorelai said."
Calico Jaka-dra, retired khajiit pirate: "This one would like a rest from her grand adventures. Her jewel shop runs out of stock!"
Shimmerbeam, blind altmer psijic: "Provided that I am confined to Artaeum, I do not think I will want for things to occupy my time."
Shauna Blackfire, redguard necromancer: "Sounds like paradise. I hate people."
Kirniel the Undying, cursed bosmer warrior: "I would feel useless, not being able to fight."
Echoes-from-Dragons, argonian who thinks she's a dragon: "All the better to count my hoard!"
(Signature idea shamelessly stolen from Abeille.)1 -
Tryxus✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Must be nice in lala-land..."Stand strong, stay true and shelter all."
Tryxus - Guardian of the Green - Warden - PC/EU4 -
Love_Daggerfall✭✭✭BlackSparrow wrote: »Love_Daggerfall wrote: »Edit
How come you can only get a edit button for your last post. Any other post you mad the edit button is removed so there is no way to correct mistakes?
To edit the first post of a thread, look up at the title of the thread. There should be a gear icon there.
I never seen that before. I will try it out for sure when l get home as l am voting in australian elections currenty.0 -
davidj8291✭✭✭✭✭Respectfully? I will not encourage people to buy and support a game that is largely broken. I've been patient. I'm still being somewhat patient.
But until the sweeping problems are fixed? I will tell people to save their money until it IS fixed.0 -
Love_Daggerfall✭✭✭I just read on Community Rules the Elder Scrolls Team has a email.
I am very happy to decover this.
I am extreamly worried that every time this australian speaks l punch some moderators noise out of joint without even trying.
Thats my Rant for today.
I should play more and forum less.0 -
Cazzy✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭Love_Daggerfall wrote: »I should play more and forum less.
I completely agree
Edit: Also, I would probably refrain from saying "Australian" when just referring to an individual. I know lots of wonderful people from all over the world Edited by Cazzy on July 2, 2016 12:03AM4 -
Love_Daggerfall✭✭✭Lets get this thread back on topic.
10 things l love about ESO
1. I love the barbs singing in the Stormhaven Pub. She's pretty too.
2. I love to spend hours runing around collecting mats of all types.
3. I love to do misions even if l am repeating what l have done before.
4. I love to spend real life money on this game as l love tinkering with what is the newest and greatest thing in the shop.
5. I love fishing of a night because my wife sits next to me ESO gives us together time that we both love.
6. I love ESO game back on days where l get a lot of stress or l am just plan mental ESO game helps reduce the systems a very lot.
My wifes asking me to ring a taxi l gotta go.0 -
nordsavage✭✭✭✭✭You must be new here. The thing is if it is good or works right we go and play. If it does not work this is the place to bring it up. [snip] When you get a bit older you will see that all western culture is the same.
[edited for flaming]Edited by ZOS_CoriJ on July 2, 2016 3:21PMI didn't choose tank life, tank life chose me.4 -
Love_Daggerfall✭✭✭Love_Daggerfall wrote: »I should play more and forum less.
I completely agree
Edit: Also, I would probably refrain from saying "Australian" when just referring to an individual. I know lots of wonderful people from all over the world
Yes l guess you are correct l should incremnant that its me and not all australians because l don't have a australian group backing of the point l am pointing out.
Polictial correctness in forums makes me feel sick.0 -
Love_Daggerfall✭✭✭Please this thread topic is to give praise about how good ESO gameplay is.
Please stop making this off topic and making it personal. Myself included.0 -
Love_Daggerfall✭✭✭I love to kill monseters in the sewers.
They kill me 50% of the time but l love it.
I have very high hopes of killing everyone without dying ome day.
Its exciting stuff.1 -
nordsavage✭✭✭✭✭ESO wants to start nickel and diming crowns for everything but not fix the game.I didn't choose tank life, tank life chose me.0
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nordsavage✭✭✭✭✭ESO is throwing mismatched traits on end game content.I didn't choose tank life, tank life chose me.0
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BenLocoDete✭✭✭Love_Daggerfall wrote: »I should play more and forum less.
The current influx of negative threads are a good sign to ZOS that the game needs a change, dramatically.
If it serves this purpose, I tell myself the following everytime I run into an issue with ESO:
"Oh this is lame, ah well, this is just because Zenimax Online had to have a framework of an MMO to put THE ELDER SCROLLS into it, and they had to have it out and look for support to help them IMPROVE their ORIGINAL PLANS, that are to make the utterly great Elder Scrolls game of all, taking every bit of lore available, every single little bit of it, and having it inspire a massive multiplayer game WITHOUT DISTORTING the franchise.
So, right now, the game is an MMO, but this is going to change, this is going to become a truly
The Elder Scrolls once they take every clichè out of it and put LORE, take every piece of original content found into TES games and put them into ESO, to finally rename it to THE Elder Scrolls Online, because right now it feels like Online Massive MMO clichè game kids friendly and OH, there is also elder scrolls on it come grab you bite for just $$$$$$$"[slit]Throat[/slit]1 -
Phinix1✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭It is, like all things, a balance.
It is important to point out aspects of the game design that are frustrating, and could benefit from improvements or a re-thinking of the underlying philosophy. Like RNG drops in RNG armor types in RNG traits for example, with no token system and no way for crafters to re-trait gear.
It is ALSO important to remain tactful, considerate, and respectful to others, which of course includes the people at ZOS.
However, if all people ever posted was positivism for the sake of it, we would have a pointless forum full of rainbows and false-happiness where nothing constructive was ever discussed or improved in the game.
An environment where constructive feedback is perceived as toxic because it suggests something might be "wrong" and "wrong is bad" is just as toxic as actual toxicity!
But if people can't get their point across in a considerate and respectful way then that too is toxic and unhelpful to anyone so...
BALANCE.4 -
NovaShadow✭✭✭✭✭If you want forums that are blindingly happy without a bad thing to be said then this is the wrong game for you.
I don't blame people for complaining about the buggy mess this laggy game is. What do you expect them to do? Not complain about a product they spent money on but can hardly play? Support tickets are useless, ZOS doesn't communicate with anyone, patches are few and far between when it comes to proper 'fixes' and even then they always break something else.
If you want sunshine and roses then you're in the wrong spot.
Until ZOS fixes the LONG list of things that are wrong with the game you'll be hard pressed to find what you seek.PC NA - EPHS1 -
BlackSparrow✭✭✭✭✭
✭NovaShadow wrote: »If you want forums that are blindingly happy without a bad thing to be said then this is the wrong game for you.
I don't blame people for complaining about the buggy mess this laggy game is. What do you expect them to do? Not complain about a product they spent money on but can hardly play? Support tickets are useless, ZOS doesn't communicate with anyone, patches are few and far between when it comes to proper 'fixes' and even then they always break something else.
If you want sunshine and roses then you're in the wrong spot.
Until ZOS fixes the LONG list of things that are wrong with the game you'll be hard pressed to find what you seek.
I agree with Love_Daggerfall here. Yes, let's talk about things wrong with the game. But a good game community needs a balance between discussion of the problems and discussion of the positives. This fosters a sense of community and encourages new people to join the discussion without feeling like they're stepping on a minefield. Soon, you just have the bad experiences represented, because all the people with good experiences have been driven away, and it becomes an echo chamber of negativity.
No one's saying everyone needs to frolic through a rainbow meadow made of fluffy bunnies... but a little positivity goes a long way.Edited by BlackSparrow on July 2, 2016 2:02AMLiving vicariously through my characters.
My Girls:"If you were trapped in your house for, say, a year, how would you pass the time?"
Nephikah the Houseless, dunmer assassin: "I suppose I could use the break. I have a lot of business holdings now that need management."
Swum-Many-Waters, elderly argonian healer: "I think that I would enjoy writing a memoir."
Silh'ki, khajiit warrior-chef: "Would this one be able to go outside, to the nearby river? It's hard to fish without water!"
Peregrine Huntress, bosmer hunter: "Who is forcing me to stay inside, and where can I find them?"
Lorenyawe, altmer mechanist: "And why would I want to go outside in the first place? Too much to be done in the workshop."
Lorelai Magpie, breton master thief: "I'd go nuts. Lucky for me, I have a little experience sneaking out!"
Rasheda the Burning Heart, redguard knight: "I would continue my training to keep my skills sharp."
Hex-Eye Azabi, khajiit daedric priestess: "I suppose it would be lucky, then, that I built a shrine to Mephala in my backyard."
Yngva Stormhammer, nord bandit (reformed...ish): "I hate being inside even when I'm not forced to be. GET. ME. OUT."
Madam Argentia, vampire dunmer aristocrat: "I suppose it would be more of the same. I have a rather... contentious relationship with the sun."
Mazie gra-Bolga, orc scout: "Uh... I'd have to house train my bear..."
Felicia the Wanderer, imperial witch-for-hire: "What Lorelai said."
Calico Jaka-dra, retired khajiit pirate: "This one would like a rest from her grand adventures. Her jewel shop runs out of stock!"
Shimmerbeam, blind altmer psijic: "Provided that I am confined to Artaeum, I do not think I will want for things to occupy my time."
Shauna Blackfire, redguard necromancer: "Sounds like paradise. I hate people."
Kirniel the Undying, cursed bosmer warrior: "I would feel useless, not being able to fight."
Echoes-from-Dragons, argonian who thinks she's a dragon: "All the better to count my hoard!"
(Signature idea shamelessly stolen from Abeille.)1 -
Love_Daggerfall✭✭✭It is, like all things, a balance.
It is important to point out aspects of the game design that are frustrating, and could benefit from improvements or a re-thinking of the underlying philosophy. Like RNG drops in RNG armor types in RNG traits for example, with no token system and no way for crafters to re-trait gear.
It is ALSO important to remain tactful, considerate, and respectful to others, which of course includes the people at ZOS.
However, if all people ever posted was positivism for the sake of it, we would have a pointless forum full of rainbows and false-happiness where nothing constructive was ever discussed or improved in the game.
An environment where constructive feedback is perceived as toxic because it suggests something might be "wrong" and "wrong is bad" is just as toxic as actual toxicity!
But if people can't get their point across in a considerate and respectful way then that too is toxic and unhelpful to anyone so...
BALANCE.
Yes Balance is a good thing.
Why should others label people who say good things as if they are on drugs or other discrediting comments. If the topic of the thread is good and giving credit when ESO needs it people should respect that thread topic. There are loads of posts on the other side of what we call balance.
Yes Balance is needed but also is giving respect to the topic of the thread.2 -
Love_Daggerfall✭✭✭BenLocoDete wrote: »Love_Daggerfall wrote: »I should play more and forum less.
The current influx of negative threads are a good sign to ZOS that the game needs a change, dramatically.
If it serves this purpose, I tell myself the following everytime I run into an issue with ESO:
"Oh this is lame, ah well, this is just because Zenimax Online had to have a framework of an MMO to put THE ELDER SCROLLS into it, and they had to have it out and look for support to help them IMPROVE their ORIGINAL PLANS, that are to make the utterly great Elder Scrolls game of all, taking every bit of lore available, every single little bit of it, and having it inspire a massive multiplayer game WITHOUT DISTORTING the franchise.
So, right now, the game is an MMO, but this is going to change, this is going to become a truly
The Elder Scrolls once they take every clichè out of it and put LORE, take every piece of original content found into TES games and put them into ESO, to finally rename it to THE Elder Scrolls Online, because right now it feels like Online Massive MMO clichè game kids friendly and OH, there is also elder scrolls on it come grab you bite for just $$$$$$$"
You truly know the history of this franchise.
I just wish you slowed down to explane some more information for people like me who have forgotten the great history of how all Zos games link together. I personaly would welcome a good history lesson.0 -
Love_Daggerfall✭✭✭I am off to enjoy playing Elder Scrolls Online for the next ten or 12 hours.
Its one thing to talk about a topic.
Its a compleaty different thing to live it out.
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Phinix1✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Love_Daggerfall wrote: »Yes Balance is a good thing.
Why should others label people who say good things as if they are on drugs or other discrediting comments. If the topic of the thread is good and giving credit when ESO needs it people should respect that thread topic. There are loads of posts on the other side of what we call balance.
Yes Balance is needed but also is giving respect to the topic of the thread.
I agree.
I always found people that feel compelled to post something negative to a positive thread just for the sake of it to be rather petty. These were mostly people that had nothing really constructive to say.
I never suffered from that particular affliction or personality disorder or whatever you call it. I don't feel like the universe has some magical pizza of justice and suffering and if other people are given slices, my slices are diminished proportionally.
So, I am able to leave something be without obsessively putting my own mark all over it, because I don't feel threatened in that way. I think it is a more healthy philosophy.
Contribute to a discussion when you believe you have something actually helpful and constructive to contribute.
Unfortunately I think some people honestly believe complaining just for the sake of it with no suggestions for improvements and no care or respect in HOW they say things is "constructive."
I blame the greedy corporations for our failing education system for that.
EDIT: That, and a lack of appropriate parental discipline.
Edited by Phinix1 on July 2, 2016 2:19AM1 -
Van_0S✭✭✭✭✭OP, express your views in forums without harsh criticism or fear of the moderators.
Then no one will report you nor the moderator will take action on you. If there is a problem you face in ESO, then its your duty to spread the word, not keep the problem of ESO to yourself, otherwise you will only encourage the devs to make poor content and not fix anything.1 -
Love_Daggerfall✭✭✭OP, express your views in forums without harsh criticism or fear of the moderators.
Then no one will report you nor the moderator will take action on you. If there is a problem you face in ESO, then its your duty to spread the word, not keep the problem of ESO to yourself, otherwise you will only encourage the devs to make poor content and not fix anything.
I agree with you in part.
I struggle with the understanding of the use of the word criticism.
Criticism to my understanding is saying bad thing or negative things.
I was all ways encouraged to say stuff like it is and don't beat around the bush.
A true person will be true to there words no matter how painful the outcome.
These are the morrals that motovate me.
No one wants people that are not real only giving one sided conversations only showing the good and we don't say the bad because the hard drugs have numbed that part of our brains.
I was on doctors hard drugs for 15 years l know all about plastic pretent people.
Well doctors this year took me off there hard drugs cold turkey.
I am not holding the truth back from anyone.
If ESO wants every to talk like there on hard drugs then please kick me out.
Edit
My fear of moderators is bery real.
For the last 3 days l have been studying the Community Rules and doing my best to obey them.
The moderators in private have been saying l am still breaking Rules.
I have had a couple of threads closed too.
Its all got to do with understanding that what l am reading is the same understanding moderators have. Up until now we are locked in disagreement.
Do you understand why l fear moderators now...good good.
I am removing this thread from my favourites l am sick of talking on it.
ByeEdited by Love_Daggerfall on July 2, 2016 5:20AM0
