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REMOVAL OF EXISTING CROWN STORE ITEMS FOR AUGUST?
kensan62_ESO
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I dont understand where this is coming from. Items like Priest of the Green will only be for sale from July 7th to August 1st then retired?? Many items are being retired to make room for new items. What new items?? the ones they are retiring is almost half the store. Is there some big store release coming in August?? Do they really only have enough room on the store to sell an "x" amount of items? This isnt just a rotation of items, this is a retirement of items specifically to make room. Does ZOS need to create a crafting bag for themselves that allows them to sell an infinite amount of items? Thet arent exactly filling the store to the hilt with refreshing new items. Alot of them are becoming reskins of mounts we have already seen. Can someone from ZOS please explain what they are planning on bringing in to replace said items being retired? After the last retirement of items the store has not been the best as far as selections. New hairstyles are great but shouldnt take up the entire store.
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khele23eb17_ESO✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Its not about 'making room'. Please. Are they going to run out of space for icons on the screen? Thats the dumbest explanation Ive ever heard. Heres the real one:
'Were removing items from the cash shop which arent selling so well anymore and introducing new ones with limited up-time in the shop in an attempt to use poor impulse control and fear of non-buyers remorse of our players to sqeeze money from their wallets into our bank accounts.'Edited by khele23eb17_ESO on July 1, 2016 8:17PMP2P offered you 'hell yeah!' moments. F2P offers you 'thank god its over' moments.26 -
BigBragg✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭I would presume it is just a common business model. When items slow down and become stale in sales, mark them down for one last push. Then pull them out and put in the new, fresh merchandise. This will also allow them to adjust pricing to match their current buying trends. Keeping everything would hinder pricing adjustments, as well as clutter the the store with things that no longer pay for their space.0 -
Ravinsild✭✭✭✭I would presume it is just a common business model. When items slow down and become stale in sales, mark them down for one last push. Then pull them out and put in the new, fresh merchandise. This will also allow them to adjust pricing to match their current buying trends. Keeping everything would hinder pricing adjustments, as well as clutter the the store with things that no longer pay for their space.
There is no space. It's not a floor-room with so many square feet. I mean how many GB are these items taking up? How many HardDrives do they have? Unless they're like 500 GB each and they only have like a 5 TB HDD or SDD on their servers it's really incomparable.2 -
khele23eb17_ESO✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭I would presume it is just a common business model. When items slow down and become stale in sales, mark them down for one last push. Then pull them out and put in the new, fresh merchandise. This will also allow them to adjust pricing to match their current buying trends. Keeping everything would hinder pricing adjustments, as well as clutter the the store with things that no longer pay for their space.
By pricing adjustments you obviously mean raising the prices.P2P offered you 'hell yeah!' moments. F2P offers you 'thank god its over' moments.0 -
BigBragg✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭I would presume it is just a common business model. When items slow down and become stale in sales, mark them down for one last push. Then pull them out and put in the new, fresh merchandise. This will also allow them to adjust pricing to match their current buying trends. Keeping everything would hinder pricing adjustments, as well as clutter the the store with things that no longer pay for their space.
There is no space. It's not a floor-room with so many square feet. I mean how many GB are these items taking up? How many HardDrives do they have? Unless they're like 500 GB each and they only have like a 5 TB HDD or SDD on their servers it's really incomparable.
There is a visual space where patrons choose from available good. More items can make things cluttered, and you either have to add more scrolling or shrink things in size. So it isn't a physical, or hardware limitation, but rather a visual choice on a market space and aesthetics in regards to maximizing income.khele23eb17_ESO wrote: »I would presume it is just a common business model. When items slow down and become stale in sales, mark them down for one last push. Then pull them out and put in the new, fresh merchandise. This will also allow them to adjust pricing to match their current buying trends. Keeping everything would hinder pricing adjustments, as well as clutter the the store with things that no longer pay for their space.
By pricing adjustments you obviously mean raising the prices.
That is the direction prices go.
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Lysette✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭I would presume it is just a common business model. When items slow down and become stale in sales, mark them down for one last push. Then pull them out and put in the new, fresh merchandise. This will also allow them to adjust pricing to match their current buying trends. Keeping everything would hinder pricing adjustments, as well as clutter the the store with things that no longer pay for their space.
There is no space. It's not a floor-room with so many square feet. I mean how many GB are these items taking up? How many HardDrives do they have? Unless they're like 500 GB each and they only have like a 5 TB HDD or SDD on their servers it's really incomparable.
They take up like no space - a handful of bytes - because the model data is already on our client machines. A slot entry might just be the UUID of the template item - and those are 128 bits.Edited by Lysette on July 1, 2016 8:06PM1 -
Ravinsild✭✭✭✭I would presume it is just a common business model. When items slow down and become stale in sales, mark them down for one last push. Then pull them out and put in the new, fresh merchandise. This will also allow them to adjust pricing to match their current buying trends. Keeping everything would hinder pricing adjustments, as well as clutter the the store with things that no longer pay for their space.
There is no space. It's not a floor-room with so many square feet. I mean how many GB are these items taking up? How many HardDrives do they have? Unless they're like 500 GB each and they only have like a 5 TB HDD or SDD on their servers it's really incomparable.
They take up like no space - a handful of bytes - because the model data is already on our client machines. A slot entry might just be the UUID of the template item - and those are 128 bits.
Essentially my point. Saying "there's no space" is silly. Visual space, perhaps...I guess. I would rather see a store with a lot of stuff to offer than few.1 -
Lysette✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭I would presume it is just a common business model. When items slow down and become stale in sales, mark them down for one last push. Then pull them out and put in the new, fresh merchandise. This will also allow them to adjust pricing to match their current buying trends. Keeping everything would hinder pricing adjustments, as well as clutter the the store with things that no longer pay for their space.
There is no space. It's not a floor-room with so many square feet. I mean how many GB are these items taking up? How many HardDrives do they have? Unless they're like 500 GB each and they only have like a 5 TB HDD or SDD on their servers it's really incomparable.
They take up like no space - a handful of bytes - because the model data is already on our client machines. A slot entry might just be the UUID of the template item - and those are 128 bits.
Essentially my point. Saying "there's no space" is silly. Visual space, perhaps...I guess. I would rather see a store with a lot of stuff to offer than few.
Well, visual space can easily be dealt with as well - by just not showing the items which are bought already instead to grey them out.3 -
Birdovic✭✭✭✭✭Just for pressuring people who still think about buying but havent done so yet.
And in a few months they get reintroduced for a super cool limited offer like "Costume XYZ will be availaible again after 6 months! Yay! But only for 1 Week, so grab it as long as you can! (Price will be 50% higher, too)Edited by Birdovic on July 1, 2016 8:11PMAttempt and Thoughts to Overhaul Scaling, Attribute System and Enchantments
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Lysette✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭But at least it would be nice, if a costume is actually IN the store, before it gets retired - but they retire one, which was not offered yet.2 -
RandalMarrs✭✭✭Less to choose and cycling things out spurns impulse buying. Too many items is sometimes too much.0
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MissBizz✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭But at least it would be nice, if a costume is actually IN the store, before it gets retired - but they retire one, which was not offered yet.
QFT.
Seriously. How do they retire an item that is not available yet and as per their article won't be available in August?
And yes, it totally gets folks (like myself) who were hesitant about items to pony up and get them before they are gone.Lone Wolf HelpFor the solo players who know, sometimes you just need a hand.PC | NA | AD-DC-EP | Discord3 -
Lysette✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭But at least it would be nice, if a costume is actually IN the store, before it gets retired - but they retire one, which was not offered yet.
QFT.
Seriously. How do they retire an item that is not available yet and as per their article won't be available in August?
And yes, it totally gets folks (like myself) who were hesitant about items to pony up and get them before they are gone.
But if they overdo it, then I tend to become stubborn and do not buy anything at all. This can backfire.
And another idea which comes to mind then is - if I did not have an urge to buy it thusfar, I probably do not need it at all. What basically means, I won't buy it, even if it will no longer be available afterwards. Why would I want it, if I did not want it thusfar.Edited by Lysette on July 1, 2016 8:23PM3 -
Recremen✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭I'm getting a couple of friends ESO today, I still haven't explained to them that more than half the Crown Store content they see people riding around in/on will never be available to them due to this silly "retirement". Why does ZOS marketing gotta be so rude? :-(Men'Do PC NA AD Khajiit
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Lysette✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭I'm getting a couple of friends ESO today, I still haven't explained to them that more than half the Crown Store content they see people riding around in/on will never be available to them due to this silly "retirement". Why does ZOS marketing gotta be so rude? :-(
Yeah, was my reason to not get a 2nd account - my favorite 2 costumes are retired and I could not get it for the 2nd account. So probably I will never get a 2nd account, because it would just make me angry, and I want to have fun, not getting angry.Edited by Lysette on July 1, 2016 8:29PM0 -
rhapsodious✭✭✭✭✭
✭I really hope they start cycling mundane content out and maybe even have a surprise sale on limited-time offers.
A game that I play a lot does this with their in-game shop for desirable (yet not limited) monsters - the stock rotates every couple of weeks but if you missed a thing, you just have to wait a few months for it to come back. For stuff like, say, the Helstrom Ancestor Lizard, or the High Coin Ball Gown Thingy (sorry, the name escapes me), it's disappointing that an otherwise unremarkable item would just disappear forever.
For limited items, I think it'd be neat (and probably print money, hint hint) to have a popularity contest of sorts where the community votes for a limited-time thing to come back to the Crown Store for a weekend, at the price it was originally at. They're still limited, but it's less of a "you weren't around/didn't have the game on this specific weekend? No hope for you." and more of a "Hey guys we can totally make this into a marketing opportunity where everyone wins yaaaaay!"
Oh, and "making room" for new stock usually doesn't mean removing items that were just added... but alas. I guess it works in that I'll probably end up buying a pack for a couple of costumes I would have waited for Plus to roll over for otherwise, but it doesn't quite sit right with me.Edited by rhapsodious on July 1, 2016 8:55PM0 -
Lysette✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭rhapsodious wrote: »I really hope they start cycling mundane content out and maybe even have a surprise sale on limited-time offers.
A game that I play a lot does this with their in-game shop for desirable (yet not limited) monsters - the stock rotates every couple of weeks but if you missed a thing, you just have to wait a few months for it to come back. For stuff like, say, the Helstrom Ancestor Lizard, or the High Coin Ball Gown Thingy (sorry, the name escapes me), it's disappointing that an otherwise unremarkable item would just disappear forever.
For limited items, I think it'd be neat (and probably print money, hint hint) to have a popularity contest of sorts where the community votes for a limited-time thing to come back to the Crown Store for a weekend, at the price it was originally at. They're still limited, but it's less of a "you weren't around/didn't have the game on this specific weekend? No hope for you." and more of a "Hey guys we can totally make this into a marketing opportunity where everyone wins yaaaaay!"
Oh, and "making room" for new stock usually doesn't mean removing items that were just added... but alas. I guess it works in that I'll probably end up buying a pack for a couple of costumes I would have waited for Plus to roll over for otherwise, but it doesn't quite sit right with me.
High collared - the dress has a collar which goes around the neck and is unusually high.1 -
rhapsodious✭✭✭✭✭
✭High collared - the dress has a collar which goes around the neck and is unusually high.
Looked it up and it's high-collared coin ball gown. That just rolls right off the tongue.0 -
milesrodneymcneely2_ESO✭✭✭✭✭
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See, I don't understand why this applies to digital content in a cash shop.I would presume it is just a common business model. When items slow down and become stale in sales, mark them down for one last push. Then pull them out and put in the new, fresh merchandise. This will also allow them to adjust pricing to match their current buying trends. Keeping everything would hinder pricing adjustments, as well as clutter the the store with things that no longer pay for their space.
It's not like there's a limited supply. Why not just leave EVERYTHING that's ever been offered for sale? Players have more choice and ZOS has more income.
If they want to create artificial incentives for purchasing the items in question, why not just run periodic sales? When the riding lessons got marked down, those things sold like MAD.
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Ravinsild✭✭✭✭I would presume it is just a common business model. When items slow down and become stale in sales, mark them down for one last push. Then pull them out and put in the new, fresh merchandise. This will also allow them to adjust pricing to match their current buying trends. Keeping everything would hinder pricing adjustments, as well as clutter the the store with things that no longer pay for their space.
There is no space. It's not a floor-room with so many square feet. I mean how many GB are these items taking up? How many HardDrives do they have? Unless they're like 500 GB each and they only have like a 5 TB HDD or SDD on their servers it's really incomparable.
They take up like no space - a handful of bytes - because the model data is already on our client machines. A slot entry might just be the UUID of the template item - and those are 128 bits.
Essentially my point. Saying "there's no space" is silly. Visual space, perhaps...I guess. I would rather see a store with a lot of stuff to offer than few.
Well, visual space can easily be dealt with as well - by just not showing the items which are bought already instead to grey them out.
Oh wow look you're a genius. Imagine that. Now they don't have to delete items from the store and it saves space. ZO$ hire this person they actually have good ideas.Edited by Ravinsild on July 1, 2016 9:04PM0 -
Lysette✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭I would presume it is just a common business model. When items slow down and become stale in sales, mark them down for one last push. Then pull them out and put in the new, fresh merchandise. This will also allow them to adjust pricing to match their current buying trends. Keeping everything would hinder pricing adjustments, as well as clutter the the store with things that no longer pay for their space.
There is no space. It's not a floor-room with so many square feet. I mean how many GB are these items taking up? How many HardDrives do they have? Unless they're like 500 GB each and they only have like a 5 TB HDD or SDD on their servers it's really incomparable.
They take up like no space - a handful of bytes - because the model data is already on our client machines. A slot entry might just be the UUID of the template item - and those are 128 bits.
Essentially my point. Saying "there's no space" is silly. Visual space, perhaps...I guess. I would rather see a store with a lot of stuff to offer than few.
Well, visual space can easily be dealt with as well - by just not showing the items which are bought already instead to grey them out.
Oh wow look you're a genius. Imagine that. Now they don't have to delete items from the store and it saves space. ZO$ hire this person they actually have good ideas.
Nah i am not for hire, and I would not work for a company anyway, which is that badly managed.0 -
Ravinsild✭✭✭✭Either which way I was going to get the Green Priest thing for my Bosmer Sniper because it kind of looks like a wood elf gilly suit, but even though I kind of wanted the baby netch I can for sure like without. Same with all that other stuff.
I just don't care and I'm not going to buy it "just in case" I might want it later. If I don't want it now but "might" want it later oh well. I'd rather save money than spend it pointlessly just to alleviate some weird future paranoia.0 -
Lysette✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Either which way I was going to get the Green Priest thing for my Bosmer Sniper because it kind of looks like a wood elf gilly suit, but even though I kind of wanted the baby netch I can for sure like without. Same with all that other stuff.
I just don't care and I'm not going to buy it "just in case" I might want it later. If I don't want it now but "might" want it later oh well. I'd rather save money than spend it pointlessly just to alleviate some weird future paranoia.
'That is how I do it as well - if I did not have an urge to buy it thusfar, why would I need it in future?0 -
Thrasher91604✭✭✭✭✭It's their idea to create a fake market for these items. If there were true competition on these items from multiple sellers you wouldn't see such shenanigans about "making room".Edited by Thrasher91604 on July 1, 2016 9:17PM0 -
Abeille✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭I wouldn't mind if they still had sales before removing stuff... But they only did that once
Just so that everyone knows, my Altmer still can't have black hair. About a dozen of Altmer NPCs in the game have black hair. Just saying.
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