Will ZOS ever sell Maelstrom weapons?
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Ep1kMalware✭✭✭✭✭
✭PurifedBladez wrote: »Ep1kMalware wrote: »PurifedBladez wrote: »Ep1kMalware wrote: »whays the point in selling them? To pretend that you're a good player when you're definitely not a good player? The weapons really only matter to maxed out builds that have a solid rotation. Normal enchants now are pretty legit. The only reason I can see people wanting to buy the weapons is so they can be like 'oh look at me I'm such a good player now'.
Truth is, you'll still suck, and I still wont rezz you. The players that beat vmsa should be better rewarded. Let's just make it so nmsa drops vmsa weapons without the enchantment so scrublords can go around bragging about how good they are.
everybody wins.
You're the *** that doesn't rez people? Cool.
yup, only rezz tanks. If I can solo the boss I'm not going to risk whiping or obviously get killed because you're a healer who wants to lurk in the back of the room or a scrubby dps spamming snipe and standing in red. If you're a solid player I'll probably rez. But if I have to solo firemaw/titan/skoria for you what makes you think I got time to rez you anyway?
stop whining, watch and learn the mechanics, and enjoy your free carry. Why so many people think others csn just stop and rezz people who die all the time. This is a huge pet peeve. Take first boss wgt for example, I can rezz you at the beginning of the fight but if you die halfway through picking you up will only get me killed anyway.
also, 9/10 it's always the frackin healer demanding rezzes. I ran coa yesterday, solod nearly every boss having to listen to the healer scream 'heal me, pick me up'. To make it worse,nI actually put guard on my bar to try and keep this moron alive. If you don't want to die PAY ATTENTION
while you're busy being dead I'm busy not noticing, because I'm paying attention to boss mechanics and adds while I cycle my rotation. If I could toggle it, your healthbar wouldn't be taking space on my screen in the first place. using dw/bow I recover 17-20k hps depending on weather or not my warhorn is active. I could care less if the healer died, at least they're not following me around spamming their crap 1k repentences while running away from the group. Literally the best moment in any dungeon for me is when the freakin healer dies.
/Rant
pug group attitudes just never quit.
I thought you were talking about pvp... and, if you're not reviving people in pvp then I think you're an *** because reviving a few people can real turn things around sometimes. Whatever though you seem to have this ridiculous elitist attitude. Like you're to good to revive someone? Lol so ridiculous.
More like can't. Your death increases the teams burden, ehich causes others to die and that cascades. 1 down often means 2 down so unless it's a slow paced fight, yeh you're staying down. Do you realize how many whipes/fails people have because they have to keep rezaing someone who won't stop dying. in this game, save maelstrom, you actually get tk choose if you dont want to die.
by paying attention.
I don't have to be elitest to not pity your failures.0 -
PurifedBladez✭✭✭✭✭Ep1kMalware wrote: »PurifedBladez wrote: »Ep1kMalware wrote: »PurifedBladez wrote: »Ep1kMalware wrote: »whays the point in selling them? To pretend that you're a good player when you're definitely not a good player? The weapons really only matter to maxed out builds that have a solid rotation. Normal enchants now are pretty legit. The only reason I can see people wanting to buy the weapons is so they can be like 'oh look at me I'm such a good player now'.
Truth is, you'll still suck, and I still wont rezz you. The players that beat vmsa should be better rewarded. Let's just make it so nmsa drops vmsa weapons without the enchantment so scrublords can go around bragging about how good they are.
everybody wins.
You're the *** that doesn't rez people? Cool.
yup, only rezz tanks. If I can solo the boss I'm not going to risk whiping or obviously get killed because you're a healer who wants to lurk in the back of the room or a scrubby dps spamming snipe and standing in red. If you're a solid player I'll probably rez. But if I have to solo firemaw/titan/skoria for you what makes you think I got time to rez you anyway?
stop whining, watch and learn the mechanics, and enjoy your free carry. Why so many people think others csn just stop and rezz people who die all the time. This is a huge pet peeve. Take first boss wgt for example, I can rezz you at the beginning of the fight but if you die halfway through picking you up will only get me killed anyway.
also, 9/10 it's always the frackin healer demanding rezzes. I ran coa yesterday, solod nearly every boss having to listen to the healer scream 'heal me, pick me up'. To make it worse,nI actually put guard on my bar to try and keep this moron alive. If you don't want to die PAY ATTENTION
while you're busy being dead I'm busy not noticing, because I'm paying attention to boss mechanics and adds while I cycle my rotation. If I could toggle it, your healthbar wouldn't be taking space on my screen in the first place. using dw/bow I recover 17-20k hps depending on weather or not my warhorn is active. I could care less if the healer died, at least they're not following me around spamming their crap 1k repentences while running away from the group. Literally the best moment in any dungeon for me is when the freakin healer dies.
/Rant
pug group attitudes just never quit.
I thought you were talking about pvp... and, if you're not reviving people in pvp then I think you're an *** because reviving a few people can real turn things around sometimes. Whatever though you seem to have this ridiculous elitist attitude. Like you're to good to revive someone? Lol so ridiculous.
More like can't. Your death increases the teams burden, ehich causes others to die and that cascades. 1 down often means 2 down so unless it's a slow paced fight, yeh you're staying down. Do you realize how many whipes/fails people have because they have to keep rezaing someone who won't stop dying. in this game, save maelstrom, you actually get tk choose if you dont want to die.
by paying attention.
I don't have to be elitest to not pity your failures.
You keep saying it likes it's me that's dieing constantly.
Honestly though I wonder how many wipes have resulted from your mentality.Edited by PurifedBladez on July 1, 2016 4:03AM2 -
Ep1kMalware✭✭✭✭✭
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I intended 'you' to me metaphorically and generally plural.PurifedBladez wrote: »Ep1kMalware wrote: »PurifedBladez wrote: »Ep1kMalware wrote: »PurifedBladez wrote: »Ep1kMalware wrote: »whays the point in selling them? To pretend that you're a good player when you're definitely not a good player? The weapons really only matter to maxed out builds that have a solid rotation. Normal enchants now are pretty legit. The only reason I can see people wanting to buy the weapons is so they can be like 'oh look at me I'm such a good player now'.
Truth is, you'll still suck, and I still wont rezz you. The players that beat vmsa should be better rewarded. Let's just make it so nmsa drops vmsa weapons without the enchantment so scrublords can go around bragging about how good they are.
everybody wins.
You're the *** that doesn't rez people? Cool.
yup, only rezz tanks. If I can solo the boss I'm not going to risk whiping or obviously get killed because you're a healer who wants to lurk in the back of the room or a scrubby dps spamming snipe and standing in red. If you're a solid player I'll probably rez. But if I have to solo firemaw/titan/skoria for you what makes you think I got time to rez you anyway?
stop whining, watch and learn the mechanics, and enjoy your free carry. Why so many people think others csn just stop and rezz people who die all the time. This is a huge pet peeve. Take first boss wgt for example, I can rezz you at the beginning of the fight but if you die halfway through picking you up will only get me killed anyway.
also, 9/10 it's always the frackin healer demanding rezzes. I ran coa yesterday, solod nearly every boss having to listen to the healer scream 'heal me, pick me up'. To make it worse,nI actually put guard on my bar to try and keep this moron alive. If you don't want to die PAY ATTENTION
while you're busy being dead I'm busy not noticing, because I'm paying attention to boss mechanics and adds while I cycle my rotation. If I could toggle it, your healthbar wouldn't be taking space on my screen in the first place. using dw/bow I recover 17-20k hps depending on weather or not my warhorn is active. I could care less if the healer died, at least they're not following me around spamming their crap 1k repentences while running away from the group. Literally the best moment in any dungeon for me is when the freakin healer dies.
/Rant
pug group attitudes just never quit.
I thought you were talking about pvp... and, if you're not reviving people in pvp then I think you're an *** because reviving a few people can real turn things around sometimes. Whatever though you seem to have this ridiculous elitist attitude. Like you're to good to revive someone? Lol so ridiculous.
More like can't. Your death increases the teams burden, ehich causes others to die and that cascades. 1 down often means 2 down so unless it's a slow paced fight, yeh you're staying down. Do you realize how many whipes/fails people have because they have to keep rezaing someone who won't stop dying. in this game, save maelstrom, you actually get tk choose if you dont want to die.
by paying attention.
I don't have to be elitest to not pity your failures.
You keep saying it likes it's me that's dieing constantly.
Honestly though I wonder how many wipes have resulted from your mentality.
We don't wipe >.>
When we do harder content we usually limit how many new players join so we have more control over the situation. New players are welcome, but it's not like we're gunna go clear vet sanctum with half a team that's never beaten it before.
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✭also is there a better mentalitt than telling people they need to sustain or survive, as opposed to: Don't worry about dying because we'll rez tou and probably get killed/overwhelmed with adds. its okay to suck we'll carry.
personally I don't mind the occasional carry, But people need to understand that if they cannot keep themselves alive in multiplayer content (by avoiding whatever keeps killing them) then how can they expect to complete a solo trial.
Telling them it's okay to suck isn't fair to them, because it lowers their expectations of harder content where they MUST carry themselves. The problem with maelstrom isn't always the dungeon, it's often the player. Honestlt what game in hell can you expect to beat by intentionally loosing?0 -
Brrrofski✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭Meh, they're not even that important anymore.
The new Glyphs honestly make some of the weapons better. Like the bow is trash for pvp. Much rather a weapon damage enchant on my bow.1 -
Waseem✭✭✭✭✭
✭I'd pay 3000 crowns for a maelstrom weapon token that lets you buy any maelstrom weapon with any trait you decide
It's not pay to win tho!! cause you can still farm for it
if this ever comes to reality, ZOS will simply decrease the drop rate of sharpened/divines in favor of buyers not farmers.. why? because it will be profitable, and thats what ESO is all about0 -
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✭✭I hope so! I'd also like to see the Lord Warden helmet for sale in Cyrodil tonight!0 -
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✭✭✭✭✭I'd pay 3000 crowns for a maelstrom weapon token that lets you buy any maelstrom weapon with any trait you decide
It's not pay to win tho!! cause you can still farm for it
Actually, that would be pay to win because you could buy the best weapon in the game without doing a damn thing. At its very core it's P2W. Little could be more so.0 -
danisonfire1994✭✭✭vMA is only complete able for certain classes/builds. And someone like me who plays a Tanks and a Healer. There's no other choice for me but to make a new character. Thanks to ZOS for making it too exclusive.2 -
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✭People previously talked about this & the VDSA Master weapons ended up as "end of campaign rewards". To be honest I'm not entirely against this but as the most OP weapons in the game, think even for PVP they should have an equivalency.
Think "headshot" status? Maybe for "defend a keep for x hours or capture 900 resources or get 900 killing blows on x class?
I'm not saying I know what the equivalency should be, just that there should be one in my opinion.
Maybe most people would disagree, but you have to understand that many people don't see a point to memorizing mechanics & what spawns first. They like the "unpredictability" of a fight against another player & feel that it takes more skill to be the best in pvp where as it just takes time to memorize a routine with Maelstrom. That's not to say Maelstrom isn't hard, it is, but there is a large group that exists which believe repetition isn't fun.Member of:
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PlagueMonk✭✭✭✭✭I'd pay 3000 crowns for a maelstrom weapon token that lets you buy any maelstrom weapon with any trait you decide
It's not pay to win tho!! cause you can still farm for it
Along those same lines, what "should" happen is after completing MA or VMA you should get a number of completion tokens (obviously VMA should give you more). You can then use those tokens to buy what you want.
This will allow EVERYONE to eventually get what they want. VMA users will just get it much faster.1 -
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✭PurifedBladez wrote: »Strider_Roshin wrote: »
Why?
I was wonderinf this myseld. vdsa bow looks sxc. dat execute.0 -
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✭✭✭danisonfire1994 wrote: »vMA is only complete able for certain classes/builds. And someone like me who plays a Tanks and a Healer. There's no other choice for me but to make a new character. Thanks to ZOS for making it too exclusive.
Hmmm it shouldn't be too much of a stretch to change your build some. I've beaten it with my stam DK who rocks heavy armor (black rose), Valkyn scoria, 2 Leki's and 3 agility. I just did a DoT build and it was easy. My DK was using DW with SnS.0 -
Ep1kMalware✭✭✭✭✭
✭Strider_Roshin wrote: »danisonfire1994 wrote: »vMA is only complete able for certain classes/builds. And someone like me who plays a Tanks and a Healer. There's no other choice for me but to make a new character. Thanks to ZOS for making it too exclusive.
Hmmm it shouldn't be too much of a stretch to change your build some. I've beaten it with my stam DK who rocks heavy armor (black rose), Valkyn scoria, 2 Leki's and 3 agility. I just did a DoT build and it was easy. My DK was using DW with SnS.
^ @this. you res[ec for dps for your vmsa runs. *** is powerhouse dps so that's no excuse. recognize your tools
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DocFrost72✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭Ep1kMalware wrote: »PurifedBladez wrote: »Ep1kMalware wrote: »whays the point in selling them? To pretend that you're a good player when you're definitely not a good player? The weapons really only matter to maxed out builds that have a solid rotation. Normal enchants now are pretty legit. The only reason I can see people wanting to buy the weapons is so they can be like 'oh look at me I'm such a good player now'.
Truth is, you'll still suck, and I still wont rezz you. The players that beat vmsa should be better rewarded. Let's just make it so nmsa drops vmsa weapons without the enchantment so scrublords can go around bragging about how good they are.
everybody wins.
You're the *** that doesn't rez people? Cool.
yup, only rezz tanks. If I can solo the boss I'm not going to risk whiping or obviously get killed because you're a healer who wants to lurk in the back of the room or a scrubby dps spamming snipe and standing in red. If you're a solid player I'll probably rez. But if I have to solo firemaw/titan/skoria for you what makes you think I got time to rez you anyway?
stop whining, watch and learn the mechanics, and enjoy your free carry. Why so many people think others csn just stop and rezz people who die all the time. This is a huge pet peeve. Take first boss wgt for example, I can rezz you at the beginning of the fight but if you die halfway through picking you up will only get me killed anyway.
also, 9/10 it's always the frackin healer demanding rezzes. I ran coa yesterday, solod nearly every boss having to listen to the healer scream 'heal me, pick me up'. To make it worse,nI actually put guard on my bar to try and keep this moron alive. If you don't want to die PAY ATTENTION
while you're busy being dead I'm busy not noticing, because I'm paying attention to boss mechanics and adds while I cycle my rotation. If I could toggle it, your healthbar wouldn't be taking space on my screen in the first place. using dw/bow I recover 17-20k hps depending on weather or not my warhorn is active. I could care less if the healer died, at least they're not following me around spamming their crap 1k repentences while running away from the group. Literally the best moment in any dungeon for me is when the freakin healer dies.
/Rant
pug group attitudes just never quit.
You sir, are an ***. You're so convinced that others dying just wastes your time? Solo it all, because no one needs you.
I would rather wipe on every boss with good friends than play for 5 minutes with you.Edited by DocFrost72 on July 1, 2016 6:29PM4 -
Strider_Roshin✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭Ep1kMalware wrote: »Strider_Roshin wrote: »danisonfire1994 wrote: »vMA is only complete able for certain classes/builds. And someone like me who plays a Tanks and a Healer. There's no other choice for me but to make a new character. Thanks to ZOS for making it too exclusive.
Hmmm it shouldn't be too much of a stretch to change your build some. I've beaten it with my stam DK who rocks heavy armor (black rose), Valkyn scoria, 2 Leki's and 3 agility. I just did a DoT build and it was easy. My DK was using DW with SnS.
^ @this. you res[ec for dps for your vmsa runs. *** is powerhouse dps so that's no excuse. recognize your tools
Yeah you're right, but a lot of people respec for VMSA; even DPS.0 -
alexkdd99✭✭✭✭✭
✭Ep1kMalware wrote: »PurifedBladez wrote: »Ep1kMalware wrote: »whays the point in selling them? To pretend that you're a good player when you're definitely not a good player? The weapons really only matter to maxed out builds that have a solid rotation. Normal enchants now are pretty legit. The only reason I can see people wanting to buy the weapons is so they can be like 'oh look at me I'm such a good player now'.
Truth is, you'll still suck, and I still wont rezz you. The players that beat vmsa should be better rewarded. Let's just make it so nmsa drops vmsa weapons without the enchantment so scrublords can go around bragging about how good they are.
everybody wins.
You're the *** that doesn't rez people? Cool.
yup, only rezz tanks. If I can solo the boss I'm not going to risk whiping or obviously get killed because you're a healer who wants to lurk in the back of the room or a scrubby dps spamming snipe and standing in red. If you're a solid player I'll probably rez. But if I have to solo firemaw/titan/skoria for you what makes you think I got time to rez you anyway?
stop whining, watch and learn the mechanics, and enjoy your free carry. Why so many people think others csn just stop and rezz people who die all the time. This is a huge pet peeve. Take first boss wgt for example, I can rezz you at the beginning of the fight but if you die halfway through picking you up will only get me killed anyway.
also, 9/10 it's always the frackin healer demanding rezzes. I ran coa yesterday, solod nearly every boss having to listen to the healer scream 'heal me, pick me up'. To make it worse,nI actually put guard on my bar to try and keep this moron alive. If you don't want to die PAY ATTENTION
while you're busy being dead I'm busy not noticing, because I'm paying attention to boss mechanics and adds while I cycle my rotation. If I could toggle it, your healthbar wouldn't be taking space on my screen in the first place. using dw/bow I recover 17-20k hps depending on weather or not my warhorn is active. I could care less if the healer died, at least they're not following me around spamming their crap 1k repentences while running away from the group. Literally the best moment in any dungeon for me is when the freakin healer dies.
/Rant
pug group attitudes just never quit.
Lol all hail the mighty ESO lord.
Most people that complain about pay 2 win just want to feel special anyways.0 -
Eteson24✭✭PurifedBladez wrote: »Ep1kMalware wrote: »PurifedBladez wrote: »Ep1kMalware wrote: »whays the point in selling them? To pretend that you're a good player when you're definitely not a good player? The weapons really only matter to maxed out builds that have a solid rotation. Normal enchants now are pretty legit. The only reason I can see people wanting to buy the weapons is so they can be like 'oh look at me I'm such a good player now'.
Truth is, you'll still suck, and I still wont rezz you. The players that beat vmsa should be better rewarded. Let's just make it so nmsa drops vmsa weapons without the enchantment so scrublords can go around bragging about how good they are.
everybody wins.
You're the *** that doesn't rez people? Cool.
yup, only rezz tanks. If I can solo the boss I'm not going to risk whiping or obviously get killed because you're a healer who wants to lurk in the back of the room or a scrubby dps spamming snipe and standing in red. If you're a solid player I'll probably rez. But if I have to solo firemaw/titan/skoria for you what makes you think I got time to rez you anyway?
stop whining, watch and learn the mechanics, and enjoy your free carry. Why so many people think others csn just stop and rezz people who die all the time. This is a huge pet peeve. Take first boss wgt for example, I can rezz you at the beginning of the fight but if you die halfway through picking you up will only get me killed anyway.
also, 9/10 it's always the frackin healer demanding rezzes. I ran coa yesterday, solod nearly every boss having to listen to the healer scream 'heal me, pick me up'. To make it worse,nI actually put guard on my bar to try and keep this moron alive. If you don't want to die PAY ATTENTION
while you're busy being dead I'm busy not noticing, because I'm paying attention to boss mechanics and adds while I cycle my rotation. If I could toggle it, your healthbar wouldn't be taking space on my screen in the first place. using dw/bow I recover 17-20k hps depending on weather or not my warhorn is active. I could care less if the healer died, at least they're not following me around spamming their crap 1k repentences while running away from the group. Literally the best moment in any dungeon for me is when the freakin healer dies.
/Rant
pug group attitudes just never quit.
I thought you were talking about pvp... and, if you're not reviving people in pvp then I think you're an *** because reviving a few people can real turn things around sometimes. Whatever though you seem to have this ridiculous elitist attitude. Like you're to good to revive someone? Lol so ridiculous.
Lol right? I don't understand why he's getting so worked up over this. At least we know who the best player in the world is now.
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Mavor✭✭✭Selling weapons and any other gear would be the death knell for ESO. If they're smart, it will never happen.0 -
Ep1kMalware✭✭✭✭✭
✭Strider_Roshin wrote: »Ep1kMalware wrote: »Strider_Roshin wrote: »danisonfire1994 wrote: »vMA is only complete able for certain classes/builds. And someone like me who plays a Tanks and a Healer. There's no other choice for me but to make a new character. Thanks to ZOS for making it too exclusive.
Hmmm it shouldn't be too much of a stretch to change your build some. I've beaten it with my stam DK who rocks heavy armor (black rose), Valkyn scoria, 2 Leki's and 3 agility. I just did a DoT build and it was easy. My DK was using DW with SnS.
^ @this. you res[ec for dps for your vmsa runs. *** is powerhouse dps so that's no excuse. recognize your tools
Yeah you're right, but a lot of people respec for VMSA; even DPS.
yeah absolutely. I'm just saying only having tanks/healers is no excuse, since stam dks/magica templars are both decent classes for vmsa. I can fully understand just not caring enough to go through that much work, but saying you can't is a diff story.
maelstrom definite;y makes you play different.0 -
Ep1kMalware✭✭✭✭✭
✭DocFrost72 wrote: »Ep1kMalware wrote: »PurifedBladez wrote: »Ep1kMalware wrote: »whays the point in selling them? To pretend that you're a good player when you're definitely not a good player? The weapons really only matter to maxed out builds that have a solid rotation. Normal enchants now are pretty legit. The only reason I can see people wanting to buy the weapons is so they can be like 'oh look at me I'm such a good player now'.
Truth is, you'll still suck, and I still wont rezz you. The players that beat vmsa should be better rewarded. Let's just make it so nmsa drops vmsa weapons without the enchantment so scrublords can go around bragging about how good they are.
everybody wins.
You're the *** that doesn't rez people? Cool.
yup, only rezz tanks. If I can solo the boss I'm not going to risk whiping or obviously get killed because you're a healer who wants to lurk in the back of the room or a scrubby dps spamming snipe and standing in red. If you're a solid player I'll probably rez. But if I have to solo firemaw/titan/skoria for you what makes you think I got time to rez you anyway?
stop whining, watch and learn the mechanics, and enjoy your free carry. Why so many people think others csn just stop and rezz people who die all the time. This is a huge pet peeve. Take first boss wgt for example, I can rezz you at the beginning of the fight but if you die halfway through picking you up will only get me killed anyway.
also, 9/10 it's always the frackin healer demanding rezzes. I ran coa yesterday, solod nearly every boss having to listen to the healer scream 'heal me, pick me up'. To make it worse,nI actually put guard on my bar to try and keep this moron alive. If you don't want to die PAY ATTENTION
while you're busy being dead I'm busy not noticing, because I'm paying attention to boss mechanics and adds while I cycle my rotation. If I could toggle it, your healthbar wouldn't be taking space on my screen in the first place. using dw/bow I recover 17-20k hps depending on weather or not my warhorn is active. I could care less if the healer died, at least they're not following me around spamming their crap 1k repentences while running away from the group. Literally the best moment in any dungeon for me is when the freakin healer dies.
/Rant
pug group attitudes just never quit.
You sir, are an ***. You're so convinced that others dying just wastes your time? Solo it all, because no one needs you.
I would rather wipe on every boss with good friends than play for 5 minutes with you.
that's fine, and I don't care if you like me or not. But if I'm with good friends I don't have to worry about getting frustrated or group members qq'ing because of their own suicidal tendencies. For pug/group finder runs zI'd rather just not spend all day in a dungeons. Gor=t other things on eso I'd like to do, and then there's real life stuff I'd like to do...
Tbh, through my eyes, my time is more important to me than yours is. I'll spend it how I dedide to.
also, this is q maelstrom thread. It's perfectly fitting to point out that if you die all the time in darkshade caverns, you'll be hopeless here until you improve your gameplay. agree or not, that's a personal issue because as 8t currently stands vmsa is solo content.Edited by Ep1kMalware on July 2, 2016 1:07AM1 -
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