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That's IT! I can't TAKE it anymore!
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✭✭✭✭✭There are lot of ways to do it, if it is planned that way from the very start. But that is not the situation ZOS is in. They designed it in a korean way - with trusted client machines and workload performed on those, to avoid the problem. And this led of course to bots and all kind of other nasty stuff, which they cannot fight, without to change their original design. What is of course not easy to do, when the system is live and would have to be totally restructured. So they did something to detect those bots - like they now try something to detect cheating 3rd party software - that is a workaround, but no solution.0 -
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✭✭✭✭✭And then something else came to mind - what if they just want to sit it out?- the problem would solve itself, if a lot of the pvp guys leave the game, less people = less big zergs = much less problems - and eventually it will balance itself out. Could be a way to solve this, not now, but it will balance itself out, frustration will drive players away, until performance will be bearable. What remains might not be the original hardcore crowd, but the more casuals, which might want to have a go on pvp as well - and it might finally actually work - just sit it out and wait.
The more I think about it, the more I like it - it does not require a lot of effort, they get rid of those, who are a problem on the forums and cannot be satisfied anyway, who cancel their sub and not much money is to gain from them anymore. new players will replace them and they need all - so what they have to do is just - well, not create anything what these people would like - or not much., They will leave and all will be fine. This is actually not even a bad thing, seern from ZOS perspective, if they think like this at all, that is - maybe they don't.Edited by Lysette on June 29, 2016 10:32PM0 -
Shardaxx✭✭✭✭✭It's better but its not fixed completely, still getting occasional loading screens in pve areas, quest arrow lag and unable to change weps just after zoning.PS4 - Europe - Shardaxx - Wood Elf Nightblade - Aldmeri Dominion0 -
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✭✭Is this a troll OP post? There was no patch--just maintenance. This whole topic is bizarre.1 -
AJ_1988✭✭✭Justice31st wrote: »Natetendo83 wrote: »Justice31st wrote: »FortheloveofKrist wrote: »Natetendo83 wrote: »ComboBreaker88 wrote: »ZOS_DaryaK wrote: »We still
you!
You do realize he is trolling you? That crappy update didn't fix anything. It may have actually made things worse. I hit 5 loa ding screens in a romantic this morning in stros maki. FIX YOUR GAME.
Are we sure he's trolling?
I'm not sure. Let me check....
Nope. Not trolling. Not saying others might not have problems. I did notice the main town in Gold Coast is a little jittery. But everything else is working pretty well.
WelFortheloveofKrist wrote: »Justice31st wrote: »FortheloveofKrist wrote: »ZoS, you keep playing with my emotions. It's been laggy and horrible on PS4 since DB launch. I vowed to not re-sub until you fixed this crap.
And what did you do? You went and fixed a bunch of crap! The lag is not that bad in populated areas. Load screens are seemingly back to normal.
On top of it, I finally realized last night that I like what you've done with IC now; last night was some of the most fun small-scale PVP I've played on here in a while. Hopefully the Cyro town capture in August will be similar.
The TelVar stones actually mean something now, and if I get ganked I only lose half of them.
And now that I resubbed, I come to find that the craft bag is made of caramel and victory.
ZoS, I hate you sometimes. But this is awesome. But I'm still angry at you. But this is still awesome.
So, you are saying ZOS fixed the lag on consoles? How much are they paying you?
@Justice31st
Take your dullard bro-logic someplace else. It's quite simple. So simple, even you should be able to grasp it. Are you ready? Here it is: The game is performing better today than it was yesterday. Well enough, even, to be enjoyable.
BTW, you're "team" is going to get crushed in November.
So you are saying this last update has changed the games lag performance so much that Cyrodil in now enjoyable? Again, how much are they paying you?
The main issues since DB isn't Cyrodiil. It's the rest of the game and the PvE locations that were plagued with FPS drops, loading screens, etc. Apparently those are fixed, or at least greatly improved. Good luck getting any MMO PvP arena full of 100s of players at any given time to work perfectly at any point in the next 100 years.
"Paul Sage emphasized that ZeniMax built ESO with the goal to have 200 players on the screen at once without performance issues or culling. He told me that testing on minimum spec machines has proven that it can be done and that ZeniMax is extremely focused on metrics and getting this right. Given studio head Matt Firor's Dark Age of Camelot pedigree, it's easy to see the source of that confidence." https://www.engadget.com/2013/03/19/the-elder-scrolls-online-interview-paul-sage/ 2013 interview.
You were saying?
Low end machines connected directly to the server. Us Aussies are bounced all around the globe to connect to them, we always get lag in some form.
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BenLocoDete✭✭✭FortheloveofKrist wrote: »ZoS, you keep playing with my emotions. (...)
ZoS, I hate you sometimes. (...)But I'm still angry at you.
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AmakarGranaen✭✭✭Justice31st wrote: »Smasherx74 wrote: »ZOS_DaryaK wrote: »We still you!
You mean you love his money right?
^LOL +1. ZOS as the first reply on a praise ZOS post (when ZOS has been silent on the real issues on the current state of the game post ) only backs up this statement.
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Justice31st✭✭✭✭✭
✭And then something else came to mind - what if they just want to sit it out?- the problem would solve itself, if a lot of the pvp guys leave the game, less people = less big zergs = much less problems - and eventually it will balance itself out. Could be a way to solve this, not now, but it will balance itself out, frustration will drive players away, until performance will be bearable. What remains might not be the original hardcore crowd, but the more casuals, which might want to have a go on pvp as well - and it might finally actually work - just sit it out and wait.
The more I think about it, the more I like it - it does not require a lot of effort, they get rid of those, who are a problem on the forums and cannot be satisfied anyway, who cancel their sub and not much money is to gain from them anymore. new players will replace them and they need all - so what they have to do is just - well, not create anything what these people would like - or not much., They will leave and all will be fine. This is actually not even a bad thing, seern from ZOS perspective, if they think like this at all, that is - maybe they don't.
^Finally, something we agree on.
Removed quoted content that has been removedEdited by ZOS_DaryaK on June 30, 2016 2:11PM"The more you know who you are, and what you want, the less you let things upset you."0 -
gkitti7✭✭Am I and the group I am currently in blackwater blade with the only ones experiencing even more crashes and lags since this maintenence today?1
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Lucious90✭✭✭And then something else came to mind - what if they just want to sit it out?- the problem would solve itself, if a lot of the pvp guys leave the game, less people = less big zergs = much less problems - and eventually it will balance itself out. Could be a way to solve this, not now, but it will balance itself out, frustration will drive players away, until performance will be bearable. What remains might not be the original hardcore crowd, but the more casuals, which might want to have a go on pvp as well - and it might finally actually work - just sit it out and wait.
The more I think about it, the more I like it - it does not require a lot of effort, they get rid of those, who are a problem on the forums and cannot be satisfied anyway, who cancel their sub and not much money is to gain from them anymore. new players will replace them and they need all - so what they have to do is just - well, not create anything what these people would like - or not much., They will leave and all will be fine. This is actually not even a bad thing, seern from ZOS perspective, if they think like this at all, that is - maybe they don't.
This I am not so sure on.... Lets just *** off the people that enjoy a big portion of the game that we advertised for heavily right before launch..... Though it could work, wouldnt it be better and more beneficial to introduce another side of PvP through arenas and Battle Grounds? I mean if you look, there are dueling guilds, and guys that go looking for small scale action, but they cant because of the general instability of Cyrodil, and getting rolled by ball groups...... Introduce 10v10 Scenarios and that could help alievate the problem much quicker and smoother than just leaving PvP to the wind..... Hide it behind a DLC and bring in those cool costumes they seem to produce like crazy, now you can bring in some money.
@ZOS is missing a huge cash cow opportunity with structured PvPXbox/NA
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Smileybones✭✭✭✭And then something else came to mind - what if they just want to sit it out?- the problem would solve itself, if a lot of the pvp guys leave the game, less people = less big zergs = much less problems - and eventually it will balance itself out. Could be a way to solve this, not now, but it will balance itself out, frustration will drive players away, until performance will be bearable. What remains might not be the original hardcore crowd, but the more casuals, which might want to have a go on pvp as well - and it might finally actually work - just sit it out and wait.
The more I think about it, the more I like it - it does not require a lot of effort, they get rid of those, who are a problem on the forums and cannot be satisfied anyway, who cancel their sub and not much money is to gain from them anymore. new players will replace them and they need all - so what they have to do is just - well, not create anything what these people would like - or not much., They will leave and all will be fine. This is actually not even a bad thing, seern from ZOS perspective, if they think like this at all, that is - maybe they don't.
guys that go looking for small scale action, but they cant because of the general instability of Cyrodil
Those people can join Azura Star anytime in PC NA, it's lag free PVP.
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Lucious90✭✭✭Smileybones wrote: »And then something else came to mind - what if they just want to sit it out?- the problem would solve itself, if a lot of the pvp guys leave the game, less people = less big zergs = much less problems - and eventually it will balance itself out. Could be a way to solve this, not now, but it will balance itself out, frustration will drive players away, until performance will be bearable. What remains might not be the original hardcore crowd, but the more casuals, which might want to have a go on pvp as well - and it might finally actually work - just sit it out and wait.
The more I think about it, the more I like it - it does not require a lot of effort, they get rid of those, who are a problem on the forums and cannot be satisfied anyway, who cancel their sub and not much money is to gain from them anymore. new players will replace them and they need all - so what they have to do is just - well, not create anything what these people would like - or not much., They will leave and all will be fine. This is actually not even a bad thing, seern from ZOS perspective, if they think like this at all, that is - maybe they don't.
guys that go looking for small scale action, but they cant because of the general instability of Cyrodil
Those people can join Azura Star anytime in PC NA, it's lag free PVP.
Which if fine and dandy but what happens when everyone starts coming over, it just moves the problem from one instance to another, but doesnt spread out the players between multiple instances. Forcing us to small scale PvP in an open world instance isnt exactly idealXbox/NA
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Karivaa✭✭✭✭✭I played last night mainly in PVP. I am on Xbox. The weird thing for me was that instead of completely going to the dashboard, my game just froze. I ended up having to try to close it which didn't really work that well. This happened 5 times instead of the normal 10. Also, once I was able to log back in, I was dead at the north gate which meant I had to try to get back to the battle which was very far away.
There did seem to be less lag.0 -
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NobleNerd✭✭✭✭FortheloveofKrist wrote: »Justice31st wrote: »FortheloveofKrist wrote: »ZoS, you keep playing with my emotions. It's been laggy and horrible on PS4 since DB launch. I vowed to not re-sub until you fixed this crap.
And what did you do? You went and fixed a bunch of crap! The lag is not that bad in populated areas. Load screens are seemingly back to normal.
On top of it, I finally realized last night that I like what you've done with IC now; last night was some of the most fun small-scale PVP I've played on here in a while. Hopefully the Cyro town capture in August will be similar.
The TelVar stones actually mean something now, and if I get ganked I only lose half of them.
And now that I resubbed, I come to find that the craft bag is made of caramel and victory.
ZoS, I hate you sometimes. But this is awesome. But I'm still angry at you. But this is still awesome.
So, you are saying ZOS fixed the lag on consoles? How much are they paying you?
@Justice31st
Take your dullard bro-logic someplace else. It's quite simple. So simple, even you should be able to grasp it. Are you ready? Here it is: The game is performing better today than it was yesterday. Well enough, even, to be enjoyable.
BTW, you're "team" is going to get crushed in November.
It may be performing okay for one day, just give it a day or a week and you will see how well it performs. There have been many times that ZOS puts something into the game to "fix" the performance only to have about 3 other things break in the process.0 -
NobleNerd✭✭✭✭Justice31st wrote: »Natetendo83 wrote: »Justice31st wrote: »FortheloveofKrist wrote: »Natetendo83 wrote: »ComboBreaker88 wrote: »ZOS_DaryaK wrote: »We still you!
You do realize he is trolling you? That crappy update didn't fix anything. It may have actually made things worse. I hit 5 loa ding screens in a romantic this morning in stros maki. FIX YOUR GAME.
Are we sure he's trolling?
I'm not sure. Let me check....
Nope. Not trolling. Not saying others might not have problems. I did notice the main town in Gold Coast is a little jittery. But everything else is working pretty well.
WelFortheloveofKrist wrote: »Justice31st wrote: »FortheloveofKrist wrote: »ZoS, you keep playing with my emotions. It's been laggy and horrible on PS4 since DB launch. I vowed to not re-sub until you fixed this crap.
And what did you do? You went and fixed a bunch of crap! The lag is not that bad in populated areas. Load screens are seemingly back to normal.
On top of it, I finally realized last night that I like what you've done with IC now; last night was some of the most fun small-scale PVP I've played on here in a while. Hopefully the Cyro town capture in August will be similar.
The TelVar stones actually mean something now, and if I get ganked I only lose half of them.
And now that I resubbed, I come to find that the craft bag is made of caramel and victory.
ZoS, I hate you sometimes. But this is awesome. But I'm still angry at you. But this is still awesome.
So, you are saying ZOS fixed the lag on consoles? How much are they paying you?
@Justice31st
Take your dullard bro-logic someplace else. It's quite simple. So simple, even you should be able to grasp it. Are you ready? Here it is: The game is performing better today than it was yesterday. Well enough, even, to be enjoyable.
BTW, you're "team" is going to get crushed in November.
So you are saying this last update has changed the games lag performance so much that Cyrodil in now enjoyable? Again, how much are they paying you?
The main issues since DB isn't Cyrodiil. It's the rest of the game and the PvE locations that were plagued with FPS drops, loading screens, etc. Apparently those are fixed, or at least greatly improved. Good luck getting any MMO PvP arena full of 100s of players at any given time to work perfectly at any point in the next 100 years.
"Paul Sage emphasized that ZeniMax built ESO with the goal to have 200 players on the screen at once without performance issues or culling. He told me that testing on minimum spec machines has proven that it can be done and that ZeniMax is extremely focused on metrics and getting this right. Given studio head Matt Firor's Dark Age of Camelot pedigree, it's easy to see the source of that confidence." https://www.engadget.com/2013/03/19/the-elder-scrolls-online-interview-paul-sage/ 2013 interview.
You were saying?
Thank you for finding this interview quote. I do wish that Sage was still with the company, because Firor is becoming a sad disappointment.1 -
Natetendo83✭✭So I played last night and while some areas were definitely better, there are still quite a bit of issues remaining. Load screens, while less frequent, still keep popping up here and there. FPS drops are still there, again not as frequent. I think the only thing that seemed largely improved was quest markers seemed to update quite a bit faster.
So I mean it's a decent improvement, but we still have a ways to go before it's as good as it was a few weeks ago.0 -
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Basic gist of comment: still not fixed for Xbox One, major disconnect issues continue.Edited by ahill3780 on June 30, 2016 5:50PM0
