ShedsHisTail wrote: »Whatzituyah wrote: »ShedsHisTail wrote: »Whatzituyah wrote: »UltimaJoe777 wrote: »Ethromelb14_ESO wrote: »UltimaJoe777 wrote: »Whatzituyah wrote: »UltimaJoe777 wrote: »Would ultimately be pointless because it would go against the timeline, thus break lore. Even if it did happen those siding with Molag Bal would be on the losing team automatically.
@UltimaJoe777 Their are over 9000 vestiges fighting on a 3 sided alliance war which is also in technicality all losers and breaking the lore worries you now? #Dragonbreak
Funny thing is the timeline has no record of anyone being crowned emperor. That and the alliance war being fought by us is simply a trait of making ESO an MMO. Observe for yourself: http://elderscrolls.wikia.com/wiki/TimelineWhatzituyah wrote: »UltimaJoe777 wrote: »Would ultimately be pointless because it would go against the timeline, thus break lore. Even if it did happen those siding with Molag Bal would be on the losing team automatically.
@UltimaJoe777 Their are over 9000 vestiges fighting on a 3 sided alliance war which is also in technicality all losers and breaking the lore worries you now? #Dragonbreak
Exactly my point.
Dragon Breaks are phenomena caused by the Divine Akatosh, whom I very much doubt would ever let Oblivion take Tamriel by any means whatsoever. As a result, the dragon break just to let people support Coldharbour would not happen.
@UltimaJoe777 Whos to say the Dragon Break didn't happen when the five companions tried to crown an emperor who isn't Dragon Born? They are trying to communicate with Akatosh.
Stop it with the dragon breaks...
They aren't necessary to explain every gap or apparent contradiction in the lore.
@ShedsHisTail We all know Bethesda did this to themselves.
Thing is...
There are two -actual- Dragon Breaks (IIRC), but then someone made the mistake of off-handedly explaining game mechanics with a Dragon Break, and now it's spiraled out of control. I hate it, because it ruins basically every lore discussion eventually.
It's like the Godwin's Law of Tamriel.
theroyalestpythonnub18_ESO wrote: »When destroying dolmens Molag Bal has several quotes alluding to the player joining him eventually. Hopefully that foretells some sort of choice down the line, when the main story picks up again.
But yeah, the fact that if you join up with Molag Bal you're inevitably doomed to failure is problematic, and makes the scenario rather unlikely. Justifying it with a dragonbreak would just be lame.
Whatzituyah wrote: »ShedsHisTail wrote: »Whatzituyah wrote: »ShedsHisTail wrote: »Whatzituyah wrote: »UltimaJoe777 wrote: »Ethromelb14_ESO wrote: »UltimaJoe777 wrote: »Whatzituyah wrote: »UltimaJoe777 wrote: »Would ultimately be pointless because it would go against the timeline, thus break lore. Even if it did happen those siding with Molag Bal would be on the losing team automatically.
@UltimaJoe777 Their are over 9000 vestiges fighting on a 3 sided alliance war which is also in technicality all losers and breaking the lore worries you now? #Dragonbreak
Funny thing is the timeline has no record of anyone being crowned emperor. That and the alliance war being fought by us is simply a trait of making ESO an MMO. Observe for yourself: http://elderscrolls.wikia.com/wiki/TimelineWhatzituyah wrote: »UltimaJoe777 wrote: »Would ultimately be pointless because it would go against the timeline, thus break lore. Even if it did happen those siding with Molag Bal would be on the losing team automatically.
@UltimaJoe777 Their are over 9000 vestiges fighting on a 3 sided alliance war which is also in technicality all losers and breaking the lore worries you now? #Dragonbreak
Exactly my point.
Dragon Breaks are phenomena caused by the Divine Akatosh, whom I very much doubt would ever let Oblivion take Tamriel by any means whatsoever. As a result, the dragon break just to let people support Coldharbour would not happen.
@UltimaJoe777 Whos to say the Dragon Break didn't happen when the five companions tried to crown an emperor who isn't Dragon Born? They are trying to communicate with Akatosh.
Stop it with the dragon breaks...
They aren't necessary to explain every gap or apparent contradiction in the lore.
@ShedsHisTail We all know Bethesda did this to themselves.
Thing is...
There are two -actual- Dragon Breaks (IIRC), but then someone made the mistake of off-handedly explaining game mechanics with a Dragon Break, and now it's spiraled out of control. I hate it, because it ruins basically every lore discussion eventually.
It's like the Godwin's Law of Tamriel.
@ShedsHisTail Still Bethesda did it to themselves and the only way to fix it is to reboot Elder Scrolls in my opinion.
ShedsHisTail wrote: »Whatzituyah wrote: »ShedsHisTail wrote: »Whatzituyah wrote: »ShedsHisTail wrote: »Whatzituyah wrote: »UltimaJoe777 wrote: »Ethromelb14_ESO wrote: »UltimaJoe777 wrote: »Whatzituyah wrote: »UltimaJoe777 wrote: »Would ultimately be pointless because it would go against the timeline, thus break lore. Even if it did happen those siding with Molag Bal would be on the losing team automatically.
@UltimaJoe777 Their are over 9000 vestiges fighting on a 3 sided alliance war which is also in technicality all losers and breaking the lore worries you now? #Dragonbreak
Funny thing is the timeline has no record of anyone being crowned emperor. That and the alliance war being fought by us is simply a trait of making ESO an MMO. Observe for yourself: http://elderscrolls.wikia.com/wiki/TimelineWhatzituyah wrote: »UltimaJoe777 wrote: »Would ultimately be pointless because it would go against the timeline, thus break lore. Even if it did happen those siding with Molag Bal would be on the losing team automatically.
@UltimaJoe777 Their are over 9000 vestiges fighting on a 3 sided alliance war which is also in technicality all losers and breaking the lore worries you now? #Dragonbreak
Exactly my point.
Dragon Breaks are phenomena caused by the Divine Akatosh, whom I very much doubt would ever let Oblivion take Tamriel by any means whatsoever. As a result, the dragon break just to let people support Coldharbour would not happen.
@UltimaJoe777 Whos to say the Dragon Break didn't happen when the five companions tried to crown an emperor who isn't Dragon Born? They are trying to communicate with Akatosh.
Stop it with the dragon breaks...
They aren't necessary to explain every gap or apparent contradiction in the lore.
@ShedsHisTail We all know Bethesda did this to themselves.
Thing is...
There are two -actual- Dragon Breaks (IIRC), but then someone made the mistake of off-handedly explaining game mechanics with a Dragon Break, and now it's spiraled out of control. I hate it, because it ruins basically every lore discussion eventually.
It's like the Godwin's Law of Tamriel.
@ShedsHisTail Still Bethesda did it to themselves and the only way to fix it is to reboot Elder Scrolls in my opinion.
Folks would just blame the reboot on a Dragon Break.
Best thing to do is to stop using it to explain game mechanics.
Whatzituyah wrote: »ShedsHisTail wrote: »Whatzituyah wrote: »ShedsHisTail wrote: »Whatzituyah wrote: »ShedsHisTail wrote: »Whatzituyah wrote: »UltimaJoe777 wrote: »Ethromelb14_ESO wrote: »UltimaJoe777 wrote: »Whatzituyah wrote: »UltimaJoe777 wrote: »Would ultimately be pointless because it would go against the timeline, thus break lore. Even if it did happen those siding with Molag Bal would be on the losing team automatically.
@UltimaJoe777 Their are over 9000 vestiges fighting on a 3 sided alliance war which is also in technicality all losers and breaking the lore worries you now? #Dragonbreak
Funny thing is the timeline has no record of anyone being crowned emperor. That and the alliance war being fought by us is simply a trait of making ESO an MMO. Observe for yourself: http://elderscrolls.wikia.com/wiki/TimelineWhatzituyah wrote: »UltimaJoe777 wrote: »Would ultimately be pointless because it would go against the timeline, thus break lore. Even if it did happen those siding with Molag Bal would be on the losing team automatically.
@UltimaJoe777 Their are over 9000 vestiges fighting on a 3 sided alliance war which is also in technicality all losers and breaking the lore worries you now? #Dragonbreak
Exactly my point.
Dragon Breaks are phenomena caused by the Divine Akatosh, whom I very much doubt would ever let Oblivion take Tamriel by any means whatsoever. As a result, the dragon break just to let people support Coldharbour would not happen.
@UltimaJoe777 Whos to say the Dragon Break didn't happen when the five companions tried to crown an emperor who isn't Dragon Born? They are trying to communicate with Akatosh.
Stop it with the dragon breaks...
They aren't necessary to explain every gap or apparent contradiction in the lore.
@ShedsHisTail We all know Bethesda did this to themselves.
Thing is...
There are two -actual- Dragon Breaks (IIRC), but then someone made the mistake of off-handedly explaining game mechanics with a Dragon Break, and now it's spiraled out of control. I hate it, because it ruins basically every lore discussion eventually.
It's like the Godwin's Law of Tamriel.
@ShedsHisTail Still Bethesda did it to themselves and the only way to fix it is to reboot Elder Scrolls in my opinion.
Folks would just blame the reboot on a Dragon Break.
Best thing to do is to stop using it to explain game mechanics.
@ShedsHisTail Atleast the reboot won't have anymore Dragon Breaks if they are careful.
ShedsHisTail wrote: »Whatzituyah wrote: »ShedsHisTail wrote: »Whatzituyah wrote: »ShedsHisTail wrote: »Whatzituyah wrote: »ShedsHisTail wrote: »Whatzituyah wrote: »UltimaJoe777 wrote: »Ethromelb14_ESO wrote: »UltimaJoe777 wrote: »Whatzituyah wrote: »UltimaJoe777 wrote: »Would ultimately be pointless because it would go against the timeline, thus break lore. Even if it did happen those siding with Molag Bal would be on the losing team automatically.
@UltimaJoe777 Their are over 9000 vestiges fighting on a 3 sided alliance war which is also in technicality all losers and breaking the lore worries you now? #Dragonbreak
Funny thing is the timeline has no record of anyone being crowned emperor. That and the alliance war being fought by us is simply a trait of making ESO an MMO. Observe for yourself: http://elderscrolls.wikia.com/wiki/TimelineWhatzituyah wrote: »UltimaJoe777 wrote: »Would ultimately be pointless because it would go against the timeline, thus break lore. Even if it did happen those siding with Molag Bal would be on the losing team automatically.
@UltimaJoe777 Their are over 9000 vestiges fighting on a 3 sided alliance war which is also in technicality all losers and breaking the lore worries you now? #Dragonbreak
Exactly my point.
Dragon Breaks are phenomena caused by the Divine Akatosh, whom I very much doubt would ever let Oblivion take Tamriel by any means whatsoever. As a result, the dragon break just to let people support Coldharbour would not happen.
@UltimaJoe777 Whos to say the Dragon Break didn't happen when the five companions tried to crown an emperor who isn't Dragon Born? They are trying to communicate with Akatosh.
Stop it with the dragon breaks...
They aren't necessary to explain every gap or apparent contradiction in the lore.
@ShedsHisTail We all know Bethesda did this to themselves.
Thing is...
There are two -actual- Dragon Breaks (IIRC), but then someone made the mistake of off-handedly explaining game mechanics with a Dragon Break, and now it's spiraled out of control. I hate it, because it ruins basically every lore discussion eventually.
It's like the Godwin's Law of Tamriel.
@ShedsHisTail Still Bethesda did it to themselves and the only way to fix it is to reboot Elder Scrolls in my opinion.
Folks would just blame the reboot on a Dragon Break.
Best thing to do is to stop using it to explain game mechanics.
@ShedsHisTail Atleast the reboot won't have anymore Dragon Breaks if they are careful.
It can't "not have any Dragon Breaks" if everyone assumes it's the product of a Dragon Break.
It simply becomes a tangential part of the pre-existing Lore.
The only way to hope to handle the Dragon Break scourge is to refute it as often as possible and stop using it as a means of explaining game mechanics. Otherwise, you're just making the problem worse.
Molag Bal is just one of 17 Princes. These Princes are always meddling in the affairs of Man and Mer. We could have tons of content based on Daedric Princes, and the Aedra for that matter. It could be PvP or PvE content too.
However this game does not do much with the Princes, outside of the Main Quest. A few game quests touch on the Prince's Influence over Mortals (Deeshan Main Quest for example) but that is still more a mortal consorting with a Prince for personal gain or revenge.
What we don't have is the ability to become a follower of a Prince. That might be interesting, with possibly some Passives awarded for completion.
EDIT Fixed Typo
Whatzituyah wrote: »ShedsHisTail wrote: »Whatzituyah wrote: »ShedsHisTail wrote: »Whatzituyah wrote: »ShedsHisTail wrote: »Whatzituyah wrote: »ShedsHisTail wrote: »Whatzituyah wrote: »UltimaJoe777 wrote: »Ethromelb14_ESO wrote: »UltimaJoe777 wrote: »Whatzituyah wrote: »UltimaJoe777 wrote: »Would ultimately be pointless because it would go against the timeline, thus break lore. Even if it did happen those siding with Molag Bal would be on the losing team automatically.
@UltimaJoe777 Their are over 9000 vestiges fighting on a 3 sided alliance war which is also in technicality all losers and breaking the lore worries you now? #Dragonbreak
Funny thing is the timeline has no record of anyone being crowned emperor. That and the alliance war being fought by us is simply a trait of making ESO an MMO. Observe for yourself: http://elderscrolls.wikia.com/wiki/TimelineWhatzituyah wrote: »UltimaJoe777 wrote: »Would ultimately be pointless because it would go against the timeline, thus break lore. Even if it did happen those siding with Molag Bal would be on the losing team automatically.
@UltimaJoe777 Their are over 9000 vestiges fighting on a 3 sided alliance war which is also in technicality all losers and breaking the lore worries you now? #Dragonbreak
Exactly my point.
Dragon Breaks are phenomena caused by the Divine Akatosh, whom I very much doubt would ever let Oblivion take Tamriel by any means whatsoever. As a result, the dragon break just to let people support Coldharbour would not happen.
@UltimaJoe777 Whos to say the Dragon Break didn't happen when the five companions tried to crown an emperor who isn't Dragon Born? They are trying to communicate with Akatosh.
Stop it with the dragon breaks...
They aren't necessary to explain every gap or apparent contradiction in the lore.
@ShedsHisTail We all know Bethesda did this to themselves.
Thing is...
There are two -actual- Dragon Breaks (IIRC), but then someone made the mistake of off-handedly explaining game mechanics with a Dragon Break, and now it's spiraled out of control. I hate it, because it ruins basically every lore discussion eventually.
It's like the Godwin's Law of Tamriel.
@ShedsHisTail Still Bethesda did it to themselves and the only way to fix it is to reboot Elder Scrolls in my opinion.
Folks would just blame the reboot on a Dragon Break.
Best thing to do is to stop using it to explain game mechanics.
@ShedsHisTail Atleast the reboot won't have anymore Dragon Breaks if they are careful.
It can't "not have any Dragon Breaks" if everyone assumes it's the product of a Dragon Break.
It simply becomes a tangential part of the pre-existing Lore.
The only way to hope to handle the Dragon Break scourge is to refute it as often as possible and stop using it as a means of explaining game mechanics. Otherwise, you're just making the problem worse.
@ShedsHisTail Hey look its a scourge on the wiki quickly delete it! I don't see anyone saying that I mean it really is Bethesdas mistake. But I do get your point but how to get rid of something thats already been done? Its impossible.
ShedsHisTail wrote: »Whatzituyah wrote: »ShedsHisTail wrote: »Whatzituyah wrote: »ShedsHisTail wrote: »Whatzituyah wrote: »ShedsHisTail wrote: »Whatzituyah wrote: »ShedsHisTail wrote: »Whatzituyah wrote: »UltimaJoe777 wrote: »Ethromelb14_ESO wrote: »UltimaJoe777 wrote: »Whatzituyah wrote: »UltimaJoe777 wrote: »Would ultimately be pointless because it would go against the timeline, thus break lore. Even if it did happen those siding with Molag Bal would be on the losing team automatically.
@UltimaJoe777 Their are over 9000 vestiges fighting on a 3 sided alliance war which is also in technicality all losers and breaking the lore worries you now? #Dragonbreak
Funny thing is the timeline has no record of anyone being crowned emperor. That and the alliance war being fought by us is simply a trait of making ESO an MMO. Observe for yourself: http://elderscrolls.wikia.com/wiki/TimelineWhatzituyah wrote: »UltimaJoe777 wrote: »Would ultimately be pointless because it would go against the timeline, thus break lore. Even if it did happen those siding with Molag Bal would be on the losing team automatically.
@UltimaJoe777 Their are over 9000 vestiges fighting on a 3 sided alliance war which is also in technicality all losers and breaking the lore worries you now? #Dragonbreak
Exactly my point.
Dragon Breaks are phenomena caused by the Divine Akatosh, whom I very much doubt would ever let Oblivion take Tamriel by any means whatsoever. As a result, the dragon break just to let people support Coldharbour would not happen.
@UltimaJoe777 Whos to say the Dragon Break didn't happen when the five companions tried to crown an emperor who isn't Dragon Born? They are trying to communicate with Akatosh.
Stop it with the dragon breaks...
They aren't necessary to explain every gap or apparent contradiction in the lore.
@ShedsHisTail We all know Bethesda did this to themselves.
Thing is...
There are two -actual- Dragon Breaks (IIRC), but then someone made the mistake of off-handedly explaining game mechanics with a Dragon Break, and now it's spiraled out of control. I hate it, because it ruins basically every lore discussion eventually.
It's like the Godwin's Law of Tamriel.
@ShedsHisTail Still Bethesda did it to themselves and the only way to fix it is to reboot Elder Scrolls in my opinion.
Folks would just blame the reboot on a Dragon Break.
Best thing to do is to stop using it to explain game mechanics.
@ShedsHisTail Atleast the reboot won't have anymore Dragon Breaks if they are careful.
It can't "not have any Dragon Breaks" if everyone assumes it's the product of a Dragon Break.
It simply becomes a tangential part of the pre-existing Lore.
The only way to hope to handle the Dragon Break scourge is to refute it as often as possible and stop using it as a means of explaining game mechanics. Otherwise, you're just making the problem worse.
@ShedsHisTail Hey look its a scourge on the wiki quickly delete it! I don't see anyone saying that I mean it really is Bethesdas mistake. But I do get your point but how to get rid of something thats already been done? Its impossible.
Like I said, there are -actual- instances of Dragon Break in the lore. Those can stay.
It's the unfounded, "I don't know, therefore Dragon Break." moments that need scrubbing.
That's the problem with Wiki's, anyone can say whatever.