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Can Players Represent a Daedric Prince?
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I think it would be great if a war waged between players that didn't just involve the three kingdoms, but also a daedric prince's plot or scheme over Tamriel. Players that want to be bad, can fight for Molag Bal or some other daedric Prince against the PC heroes of Tamriel.
It would add a whole new angle to role-playing and story. What if we could betray Varen Aquilarios in some way? The option to be a turncoat and dealing with the backlash of our actions could change the dynamics of the game and make the story more immersive.
What if, when the players representing a Daedric win the landscape of Cyrodiil literally changes before our eyes in to a barren cold and but fire blazing place? And an increase in Daedra would appear through portals all over the land. It's something I would like to see in the future.
It would add a whole new angle to role-playing and story. What if we could betray Varen Aquilarios in some way? The option to be a turncoat and dealing with the backlash of our actions could change the dynamics of the game and make the story more immersive.
What if, when the players representing a Daedric win the landscape of Cyrodiil literally changes before our eyes in to a barren cold and but fire blazing place? And an increase in Daedra would appear through portals all over the land. It's something I would like to see in the future.
Motto: Make deceivers believers.
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Strength of character is not a physical thing. -E
Walking a mile in someone else's shoes, has nothing to do with the path taken. -E
An accusation of elitism, is an indirect recognition of one's own inferiority. -E
The best way to prove someone wrong, is to do better yourself. -E
An accusation of elitism, is an indirect recognition of one's own inferiority. -E
The best way to prove someone wrong, is to do better yourself. -E
I keep forgetting to remember to get a photographic memory.
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✭✭✭Would ultimately be pointless because it would go against the timeline, thus break lore. Even if it did happen those siding with Molag Bal would be on the losing team automatically.Edited by UltimaJoe777 on June 29, 2016 9:12PMGuildmaster of Power With Numbers in PS4 NA Server's Aldmeri Dominion.
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✭✭✭✭✭Judging from the things Molag Bal does to the mortals that fail him...
... you have gotta be NUTS to join him
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Whatzituyah✭✭✭✭UltimaJoe777 wrote: »Would ultimately be pointless because it would go against the timeline, thus break lore. Even if it did happen those siding with Molag Bal would be on the losing team automatically.
@UltimaJoe777 Their are over 9000 vestiges fighting on a 3 sided alliance war which is also in technicality all losers and breaking the lore worries you now? #Dragonbreakhttps://twitch.tv/whatzituyah2
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✭✭✭✭✭Molag Bal is just one of 17 Princes. These Princes are always meddling in the affairs of Man and Mer. We could have tons of content based on Daedric Princes, and the Aedra for that matter. It could be PvP or PvE content too.
However this game does not do much with the Princes, outside of the Main Quest. A few game quests touch on the Prince's Influence over Mortals (Deeshan Main Quest for example) but that is still more a mortal consorting with a Prince for personal gain or revenge.
What we don't have is the ability to become a follower of a Prince. That might be interesting, with possibly some Passives awarded for completion.
EDIT Fixed TypoEdited by Nestor on June 29, 2016 9:27PMEnjoy the game, life is what you really want to be worried about.
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✭✭✭I'm really hoping the whole "war in Oblivion" thing that they've teased allows for something like this. I can see why we have to fight against Molag Bal in the main quest, and I understand why we can't join the Iron Wheel or the Order of the Hour, but I would love to see some actual choice come into play if the princes are all going to be fighting among themselves. It will be underwhelming if it's "Go Meridia or go home."@wayfarerx - PC / North America / Aldmeri Dominion1 -
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✭✭✭Whatzituyah wrote: »UltimaJoe777 wrote: »Would ultimately be pointless because it would go against the timeline, thus break lore. Even if it did happen those siding with Molag Bal would be on the losing team automatically.
@UltimaJoe777 Their are over 9000 vestiges fighting on a 3 sided alliance war which is also in technicality all losers and breaking the lore worries you now? #Dragonbreak
Funny thing is the timeline has no record of anyone being crowned emperor. That and the alliance war being fought by us is simply a trait of making ESO an MMO. Observe for yourself: http://elderscrolls.wikia.com/wiki/TimelineGuildmaster of Power With Numbers in PS4 NA Server's Aldmeri Dominion.
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✭It would be fun for the future smallscale instance (if we get them in the future…). A daedric arena, where we need to "tag" for a daedric prince in order to fight on an arena.
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✭Molag Bal is just one of 12 Princes. These Princes are always meddling in the affairs of Man and Mer. We could have tons of content based on Daedric Princes, and the Aedra for that matter. It could be PvP or PvE content too.
However this game does not do much with the Princes, outside of the Main Quest. A few game quests touch on the Prince's Influence over Mortals (Deeshan Main Quest for example) but that is still more a mortal consorting with a Prince for personal gain or revenge.
What we don't have is the ability to become a follower of a Prince. That might be interesting, with possibly some Passives awarded for completion.
"Oblivion stirs. Great and powerful machinations have begun... You have a part to play in the events to come. A great war is coming. A war between the forces of Oblivion. The Daedric Princes are choosing sides... Be Ready. Watch for signs." --The Prophet
So... Maybe..."As an online discussion of Tamrielic Lore grows longer, the probability of someone blaming a Dragon Break approaches 1." -- Sheds' Law
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Whatzituyah✭✭✭✭UltimaJoe777 wrote: »Whatzituyah wrote: »UltimaJoe777 wrote: »Would ultimately be pointless because it would go against the timeline, thus break lore. Even if it did happen those siding with Molag Bal would be on the losing team automatically.
@UltimaJoe777 Their are over 9000 vestiges fighting on a 3 sided alliance war which is also in technicality all losers and breaking the lore worries you now? #Dragonbreak
Funny thing is the timeline has no record of anyone being crowned emperor. That and the alliance war being fought by us is simply a trait of making ESO an MMO. Observe for yourself: http://elderscrolls.wikia.com/wiki/Timeline
@UltimaJoe777 Just because the wiki says it doesn't mean its 100% true. I read somewhere that Bethesda said this game was 100% canon that means the war too. I don't have a source so take it with a grain of salt.https://twitch.tv/whatzituyah2
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✭✭✭Whatzituyah wrote: »UltimaJoe777 wrote: »Whatzituyah wrote: »UltimaJoe777 wrote: »Would ultimately be pointless because it would go against the timeline, thus break lore. Even if it did happen those siding with Molag Bal would be on the losing team automatically.
@UltimaJoe777 Their are over 9000 vestiges fighting on a 3 sided alliance war which is also in technicality all losers and breaking the lore worries you now? #Dragonbreak
Funny thing is the timeline has no record of anyone being crowned emperor. That and the alliance war being fought by us is simply a trait of making ESO an MMO. Observe for yourself: http://elderscrolls.wikia.com/wiki/Timeline
@UltimaJoe777 Just because the wiki says it doesn't mean its 100% true. I read somewhere that Bethesda said this game was 100% canon that means the war too. I don't have a source so take it with a grain of salt.
Of course the war is canon. The timeline mentions the war, but that began before the events in TESO began, namely the planemeld and stuff. However, players fight for all 3 sides and thus to be fair the official timeline says nothing about anyone being crowned emperor.Guildmaster of Power With Numbers in PS4 NA Server's Aldmeri Dominion.
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✭✭✭✭✭UltimaJoe777 wrote: »Whatzituyah wrote: »UltimaJoe777 wrote: »Whatzituyah wrote: »UltimaJoe777 wrote: »Would ultimately be pointless because it would go against the timeline, thus break lore. Even if it did happen those siding with Molag Bal would be on the losing team automatically.
@UltimaJoe777 Their are over 9000 vestiges fighting on a 3 sided alliance war which is also in technicality all losers and breaking the lore worries you now? #Dragonbreak
Funny thing is the timeline has no record of anyone being crowned emperor. That and the alliance war being fought by us is simply a trait of making ESO an MMO. Observe for yourself: http://elderscrolls.wikia.com/wiki/Timeline
@UltimaJoe777 Just because the wiki says it doesn't mean its 100% true. I read somewhere that Bethesda said this game was 100% canon that means the war too. I don't have a source so take it with a grain of salt.
Of course the war is canon. The timeline mentions the war, but that began before the events in TESO began, namely the planemeld and stuff. However, players fight for all 3 sides and thus to be fair the official timeline says nothing about anyone being crowned emperor.
Well it is war and it is the Interregnum
Documents from that era, facts and events can easily be lost through time"Stand strong, stay true and shelter all."
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Ethromelb14_ESO✭✭✭✭✭UltimaJoe777 wrote: »Would ultimately be pointless because it would go against the timeline, thus break lore. Even if it did happen those siding with Molag Bal would be on the losing team automatically.
Not necessarily. You forgot to consider that the game has time travel in it, and there is even a mission where, ZoS, allows us to change the timeline. So the idea is completely possible and viable. There could be an on-going storyline for PvP, during this era, that allows players to become manipulated or willfully corrupted by the DP.
Why couldn't there be a story of players being sent in to the past to change the outcome of Coldharbour? Eventually the real event will be that the timeline is corrected, and things continue as they should. But if you remember correctly, Molag Bal, does eventually himself enter Tamriel in Elder Scrolls III's - Oblivion, and you the player have to defeat him in Cyrodiil. Remember?Edited by Ethromelb14_ESO on June 29, 2016 9:43PMMotto: Make deceivers believers.
Strength of character is not a physical thing. -EWalking a mile in someone else's shoes, has nothing to do with the path taken. -E
An accusation of elitism, is an indirect recognition of one's own inferiority. -E
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✭UltimaJoe777 wrote: »Whatzituyah wrote: »UltimaJoe777 wrote: »Would ultimately be pointless because it would go against the timeline, thus break lore. Even if it did happen those siding with Molag Bal would be on the losing team automatically.
@UltimaJoe777 Their are over 9000 vestiges fighting on a 3 sided alliance war which is also in technicality all losers and breaking the lore worries you now? #Dragonbreak
Funny thing is the timeline has no record of anyone being crowned emperor. That and the alliance war being fought by us is simply a trait of making ESO an MMO. Observe for yourself: http://elderscrolls.wikia.com/wiki/Timeline
When was the last time you witnessed a formal coronation ceremony?
When the Emperor changes every couple of weeks with none of them actually doing anything, no point in putting any of them in the history books. A simple, "It was a time of strife with dozens of mercenary warlords claiming the throne, only to be dethroned a week later." will suffice.
I mean, folks call themselves Emperor, but without a loyal Empire and some degree of stability a sustainability, you're just a guy with a fancy hat.
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✭✭✭Ethromelb14_ESO wrote: »UltimaJoe777 wrote: »Would ultimately be pointless because it would go against the timeline, thus break lore. Even if it did happen those siding with Molag Bal would be on the losing team automatically.
Not necessarily. You forgot to consider that the game has time travel in it, and there is even a mission where, ZoS, allows us to change the timeline. So the idea is completely possible and viable. There could be an on-going storyline for PvP, during this era, that allows players to become manipulated or willfully corrupted by the DP.
Why couldn't there be a story of players being sent in to the past to change the outcome of Coldharbour? Eventually the real event will be that the timeline is corrected, and things continue as they should. But if you remember correctly, Molag Bal, does eventually himself enter Tamriel in Elder Scrolls III's - Oblivion, and you the player have to defeat him in Cyrodiil. Remember?
For starters, if Coldharbour's planemeld was successful everything after that would be completely irrelevant. It would literally rewrite the timeline from that point on and contradict every TES game we have played.Guildmaster of Power With Numbers in PS4 NA Server's Aldmeri Dominion.
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Ethromelb14_ESO✭✭✭✭✭UltimaJoe777 wrote: »Whatzituyah wrote: »UltimaJoe777 wrote: »Would ultimately be pointless because it would go against the timeline, thus break lore. Even if it did happen those siding with Molag Bal would be on the losing team automatically.
@UltimaJoe777 Their are over 9000 vestiges fighting on a 3 sided alliance war which is also in technicality all losers and breaking the lore worries you now? #Dragonbreak
Funny thing is the timeline has no record of anyone being crowned emperor. That and the alliance war being fought by us is simply a trait of making ESO an MMO. Observe for yourself: http://elderscrolls.wikia.com/wiki/TimelineWhatzituyah wrote: »UltimaJoe777 wrote: »Would ultimately be pointless because it would go against the timeline, thus break lore. Even if it did happen those siding with Molag Bal would be on the losing team automatically.
@UltimaJoe777 Their are over 9000 vestiges fighting on a 3 sided alliance war which is also in technicality all losers and breaking the lore worries you now? #Dragonbreak
Exactly my point.Motto: Make deceivers believers.
Strength of character is not a physical thing. -EWalking a mile in someone else's shoes, has nothing to do with the path taken. -E
An accusation of elitism, is an indirect recognition of one's own inferiority. -E
The best way to prove someone wrong, is to do better yourself. -E
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✭✭✭Ethromelb14_ESO wrote: »UltimaJoe777 wrote: »Whatzituyah wrote: »UltimaJoe777 wrote: »Would ultimately be pointless because it would go against the timeline, thus break lore. Even if it did happen those siding with Molag Bal would be on the losing team automatically.
@UltimaJoe777 Their are over 9000 vestiges fighting on a 3 sided alliance war which is also in technicality all losers and breaking the lore worries you now? #Dragonbreak
Funny thing is the timeline has no record of anyone being crowned emperor. That and the alliance war being fought by us is simply a trait of making ESO an MMO. Observe for yourself: http://elderscrolls.wikia.com/wiki/TimelineWhatzituyah wrote: »UltimaJoe777 wrote: »Would ultimately be pointless because it would go against the timeline, thus break lore. Even if it did happen those siding with Molag Bal would be on the losing team automatically.
@UltimaJoe777 Their are over 9000 vestiges fighting on a 3 sided alliance war which is also in technicality all losers and breaking the lore worries you now? #Dragonbreak
Exactly my point.
Dragon Breaks are phenomena caused by the Divine Akatosh, whom I very much doubt would ever let Oblivion take Tamriel by any means whatsoever. As a result, the dragon break just to let people support Coldharbour would not happen.Guildmaster of Power With Numbers in PS4 NA Server's Aldmeri Dominion.
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Whatzituyah✭✭✭✭UltimaJoe777 wrote: »Ethromelb14_ESO wrote: »UltimaJoe777 wrote: »Whatzituyah wrote: »UltimaJoe777 wrote: »Would ultimately be pointless because it would go against the timeline, thus break lore. Even if it did happen those siding with Molag Bal would be on the losing team automatically.
@UltimaJoe777 Their are over 9000 vestiges fighting on a 3 sided alliance war which is also in technicality all losers and breaking the lore worries you now? #Dragonbreak
Funny thing is the timeline has no record of anyone being crowned emperor. That and the alliance war being fought by us is simply a trait of making ESO an MMO. Observe for yourself: http://elderscrolls.wikia.com/wiki/TimelineWhatzituyah wrote: »UltimaJoe777 wrote: »Would ultimately be pointless because it would go against the timeline, thus break lore. Even if it did happen those siding with Molag Bal would be on the losing team automatically.
@UltimaJoe777 Their are over 9000 vestiges fighting on a 3 sided alliance war which is also in technicality all losers and breaking the lore worries you now? #Dragonbreak
Exactly my point.
Dragon Breaks are phenomena caused by the Divine Akatosh, whom I very much doubt would ever let Oblivion take Tamriel by any means whatsoever. As a result, the dragon break just to let people support Coldharbour would not happen.
@UltimaJoe777 Whos to say the Dragon Break didn't happen when the five companions tried to crown an emperor who isn't Dragon Born? They were trying to communicate with Akatosh.Edited by Whatzituyah on June 29, 2016 9:55PMhttps://twitch.tv/whatzituyah2
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✭Whatzituyah wrote: »UltimaJoe777 wrote: »Ethromelb14_ESO wrote: »UltimaJoe777 wrote: »Whatzituyah wrote: »UltimaJoe777 wrote: »Would ultimately be pointless because it would go against the timeline, thus break lore. Even if it did happen those siding with Molag Bal would be on the losing team automatically.
@UltimaJoe777 Their are over 9000 vestiges fighting on a 3 sided alliance war which is also in technicality all losers and breaking the lore worries you now? #Dragonbreak
Funny thing is the timeline has no record of anyone being crowned emperor. That and the alliance war being fought by us is simply a trait of making ESO an MMO. Observe for yourself: http://elderscrolls.wikia.com/wiki/TimelineWhatzituyah wrote: »UltimaJoe777 wrote: »Would ultimately be pointless because it would go against the timeline, thus break lore. Even if it did happen those siding with Molag Bal would be on the losing team automatically.
@UltimaJoe777 Their are over 9000 vestiges fighting on a 3 sided alliance war which is also in technicality all losers and breaking the lore worries you now? #Dragonbreak
Exactly my point.
Dragon Breaks are phenomena caused by the Divine Akatosh, whom I very much doubt would ever let Oblivion take Tamriel by any means whatsoever. As a result, the dragon break just to let people support Coldharbour would not happen.
@UltimaJoe777 Whos to say the Dragon Break didn't happen when the five companions tried to crown an emperor who isn't Dragon Born? They are trying to communicate with Akatosh.
Stop it with the dragon breaks...
They aren't necessary to explain every gap or apparent contradiction in the lore."As an online discussion of Tamrielic Lore grows longer, the probability of someone blaming a Dragon Break approaches 1." -- Sheds' Law
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Ethromelb14_ESO✭✭✭✭✭UltimaJoe777 wrote: »Ethromelb14_ESO wrote: »UltimaJoe777 wrote: »Whatzituyah wrote: »UltimaJoe777 wrote: »Would ultimately be pointless because it would go against the timeline, thus break lore. Even if it did happen those siding with Molag Bal would be on the losing team automatically.
@UltimaJoe777 Their are over 9000 vestiges fighting on a 3 sided alliance war which is also in technicality all losers and breaking the lore worries you now? #Dragonbreak
Funny thing is the timeline has no record of anyone being crowned emperor. That and the alliance war being fought by us is simply a trait of making ESO an MMO. Observe for yourself: http://elderscrolls.wikia.com/wiki/TimelineWhatzituyah wrote: »UltimaJoe777 wrote: »Would ultimately be pointless because it would go against the timeline, thus break lore. Even if it did happen those siding with Molag Bal would be on the losing team automatically.
@UltimaJoe777 Their are over 9000 vestiges fighting on a 3 sided alliance war which is also in technicality all losers and breaking the lore worries you now? #Dragonbreak
Exactly my point.
Dragon Breaks are phenomena caused by the Divine Akatosh, whom I very much doubt would ever let Oblivion take Tamriel by any means whatsoever. As a result, the dragon break just to let people support Coldharbour would not happen.
Some at, Zen, have said that they're able to make up somethings as they go along, which is exactly why they chose this timeline. It is not officially canon. There are many ways to make the in-between of the points of history a-make-it-up-as-you-go-along event, and have it all pan out in the end. The idea, overall, is still potentially a good one.Motto: Make deceivers believers.
Strength of character is not a physical thing. -EWalking a mile in someone else's shoes, has nothing to do with the path taken. -E
An accusation of elitism, is an indirect recognition of one's own inferiority. -E
The best way to prove someone wrong, is to do better yourself. -E
I keep forgetting to remember to get a photographic memory.0 -
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✭✭✭Ethromelb14_ESO wrote: »UltimaJoe777 wrote: »Ethromelb14_ESO wrote: »UltimaJoe777 wrote: »Whatzituyah wrote: »UltimaJoe777 wrote: »Would ultimately be pointless because it would go against the timeline, thus break lore. Even if it did happen those siding with Molag Bal would be on the losing team automatically.
@UltimaJoe777 Their are over 9000 vestiges fighting on a 3 sided alliance war which is also in technicality all losers and breaking the lore worries you now? #Dragonbreak
Funny thing is the timeline has no record of anyone being crowned emperor. That and the alliance war being fought by us is simply a trait of making ESO an MMO. Observe for yourself: http://elderscrolls.wikia.com/wiki/TimelineWhatzituyah wrote: »UltimaJoe777 wrote: »Would ultimately be pointless because it would go against the timeline, thus break lore. Even if it did happen those siding with Molag Bal would be on the losing team automatically.
@UltimaJoe777 Their are over 9000 vestiges fighting on a 3 sided alliance war which is also in technicality all losers and breaking the lore worries you now? #Dragonbreak
Exactly my point.
Dragon Breaks are phenomena caused by the Divine Akatosh, whom I very much doubt would ever let Oblivion take Tamriel by any means whatsoever. As a result, the dragon break just to let people support Coldharbour would not happen.
Some at, Zen, have said that they're able to make up somethings as they go along, which is exactly why they chose this timeline. It is not officially canon. There are many ways to make the in-between of the points of history a-make-it-up-as-you-go-along event, and have it all pan out in the end. The idea, overall, is still potentially a good one.
FYI, ESO is 100% canon. Just because information about the interregnum is lost to future generations does not mean that it's not canon.@wayfarerx - PC / North America / Aldmeri Dominion0 -
Whatzituyah✭✭✭✭ShedsHisTail wrote: »Whatzituyah wrote: »UltimaJoe777 wrote: »Ethromelb14_ESO wrote: »UltimaJoe777 wrote: »Whatzituyah wrote: »UltimaJoe777 wrote: »Would ultimately be pointless because it would go against the timeline, thus break lore. Even if it did happen those siding with Molag Bal would be on the losing team automatically.
@UltimaJoe777 Their are over 9000 vestiges fighting on a 3 sided alliance war which is also in technicality all losers and breaking the lore worries you now? #Dragonbreak
Funny thing is the timeline has no record of anyone being crowned emperor. That and the alliance war being fought by us is simply a trait of making ESO an MMO. Observe for yourself: http://elderscrolls.wikia.com/wiki/TimelineWhatzituyah wrote: »UltimaJoe777 wrote: »Would ultimately be pointless because it would go against the timeline, thus break lore. Even if it did happen those siding with Molag Bal would be on the losing team automatically.
@UltimaJoe777 Their are over 9000 vestiges fighting on a 3 sided alliance war which is also in technicality all losers and breaking the lore worries you now? #Dragonbreak
Exactly my point.
Dragon Breaks are phenomena caused by the Divine Akatosh, whom I very much doubt would ever let Oblivion take Tamriel by any means whatsoever. As a result, the dragon break just to let people support Coldharbour would not happen.
@UltimaJoe777 Whos to say the Dragon Break didn't happen when the five companions tried to crown an emperor who isn't Dragon Born? They are trying to communicate with Akatosh.
Stop it with the dragon breaks...
They aren't necessary to explain every gap or apparent contradiction in the lore.
@ShedsHisTail We all know Bethesda did this to themselves.
Also its just my theory.Edited by Whatzituyah on June 29, 2016 9:59PMhttps://twitch.tv/whatzituyah2
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Ethromelb14_ESO✭✭✭✭✭Ethromelb14_ESO wrote: »UltimaJoe777 wrote: »Ethromelb14_ESO wrote: »UltimaJoe777 wrote: »Whatzituyah wrote: »UltimaJoe777 wrote: »Would ultimately be pointless because it would go against the timeline, thus break lore. Even if it did happen those siding with Molag Bal would be on the losing team automatically.
@UltimaJoe777 Their are over 9000 vestiges fighting on a 3 sided alliance war which is also in technicality all losers and breaking the lore worries you now? #Dragonbreak
Funny thing is the timeline has no record of anyone being crowned emperor. That and the alliance war being fought by us is simply a trait of making ESO an MMO. Observe for yourself: http://elderscrolls.wikia.com/wiki/TimelineWhatzituyah wrote: »UltimaJoe777 wrote: »Would ultimately be pointless because it would go against the timeline, thus break lore. Even if it did happen those siding with Molag Bal would be on the losing team automatically.
@UltimaJoe777 Their are over 9000 vestiges fighting on a 3 sided alliance war which is also in technicality all losers and breaking the lore worries you now? #Dragonbreak
Exactly my point.
Dragon Breaks are phenomena caused by the Divine Akatosh, whom I very much doubt would ever let Oblivion take Tamriel by any means whatsoever. As a result, the dragon break just to let people support Coldharbour would not happen.
Some at, Zen, have said that they're able to make up somethings as they go along, which is exactly why they chose this timeline. It is not officially canon. There are many ways to make the in-between of the points of history a-make-it-up-as-you-go-along event, and have it all pan out in the end. The idea, overall, is still potentially a good one.
FYI, ESO is 100% canon. Just because information about the interregnum is lost to future generations does not mean that it's not canon.
I disagree with you there, and will leave it at that.Motto: Make deceivers believers.
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✭✭✭✭✭You can't support the others, you have the stench of Molag Bal on you; they for the most part, don't trust you enough when your soul is under his control. This is frequented throughout the quests as both Daedra and the Princes mention the air about you.0 -
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✭Whatzituyah wrote: »ShedsHisTail wrote: »Whatzituyah wrote: »UltimaJoe777 wrote: »Ethromelb14_ESO wrote: »UltimaJoe777 wrote: »Whatzituyah wrote: »UltimaJoe777 wrote: »Would ultimately be pointless because it would go against the timeline, thus break lore. Even if it did happen those siding with Molag Bal would be on the losing team automatically.
@UltimaJoe777 Their are over 9000 vestiges fighting on a 3 sided alliance war which is also in technicality all losers and breaking the lore worries you now? #Dragonbreak
Funny thing is the timeline has no record of anyone being crowned emperor. That and the alliance war being fought by us is simply a trait of making ESO an MMO. Observe for yourself: http://elderscrolls.wikia.com/wiki/TimelineWhatzituyah wrote: »UltimaJoe777 wrote: »Would ultimately be pointless because it would go against the timeline, thus break lore. Even if it did happen those siding with Molag Bal would be on the losing team automatically.
@UltimaJoe777 Their are over 9000 vestiges fighting on a 3 sided alliance war which is also in technicality all losers and breaking the lore worries you now? #Dragonbreak
Exactly my point.
Dragon Breaks are phenomena caused by the Divine Akatosh, whom I very much doubt would ever let Oblivion take Tamriel by any means whatsoever. As a result, the dragon break just to let people support Coldharbour would not happen.
@UltimaJoe777 Whos to say the Dragon Break didn't happen when the five companions tried to crown an emperor who isn't Dragon Born? They are trying to communicate with Akatosh.
Stop it with the dragon breaks...
They aren't necessary to explain every gap or apparent contradiction in the lore.
@ShedsHisTail We all know Bethesda did this to themselves.
Thing is...
There are two -actual- Dragon Breaks (IIRC), but then someone made the mistake of off-handedly explaining game mechanics with a Dragon Break, and now it's spiraled out of control. I hate it, because it ruins basically every lore discussion eventually.
It's like the Godwin's Law of Tamriel.
"As an online discussion of Tamrielic Lore grows longer, the probability of someone blaming a Dragon Break approaches 1." -- Sheds' Law
Edited by ShedsHisTail on June 29, 2016 10:04PM"As an online discussion of Tamrielic Lore grows longer, the probability of someone blaming a Dragon Break approaches 1." -- Sheds' Law
Have you seen the Twin Lamps?2 -
When destroying dolmens Molag Bal has several quotes alluding to the player joining him eventually. Hopefully that foretells some sort of choice down the line, when the main story picks up again.
But yeah, the fact that if you join up with Molag Bal you're inevitably doomed to failure is problematic, and makes the scenario rather unlikely. Justifying it with a dragonbreak would just be lame.0 -
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✭✭✭Ethromelb14_ESO wrote: »Ethromelb14_ESO wrote: »UltimaJoe777 wrote: »Ethromelb14_ESO wrote: »UltimaJoe777 wrote: »Whatzituyah wrote: »UltimaJoe777 wrote: »Would ultimately be pointless because it would go against the timeline, thus break lore. Even if it did happen those siding with Molag Bal would be on the losing team automatically.
@UltimaJoe777 Their are over 9000 vestiges fighting on a 3 sided alliance war which is also in technicality all losers and breaking the lore worries you now? #Dragonbreak
Funny thing is the timeline has no record of anyone being crowned emperor. That and the alliance war being fought by us is simply a trait of making ESO an MMO. Observe for yourself: http://elderscrolls.wikia.com/wiki/TimelineWhatzituyah wrote: »UltimaJoe777 wrote: »Would ultimately be pointless because it would go against the timeline, thus break lore. Even if it did happen those siding with Molag Bal would be on the losing team automatically.
@UltimaJoe777 Their are over 9000 vestiges fighting on a 3 sided alliance war which is also in technicality all losers and breaking the lore worries you now? #Dragonbreak
Exactly my point.
Dragon Breaks are phenomena caused by the Divine Akatosh, whom I very much doubt would ever let Oblivion take Tamriel by any means whatsoever. As a result, the dragon break just to let people support Coldharbour would not happen.
Some at, Zen, have said that they're able to make up somethings as they go along, which is exactly why they chose this timeline. It is not officially canon. There are many ways to make the in-between of the points of history a-make-it-up-as-you-go-along event, and have it all pan out in the end. The idea, overall, is still potentially a good one.
FYI, ESO is 100% canon. Just because information about the interregnum is lost to future generations does not mean that it's not canon.
I disagree with you there, and will leave it at that.
* ahem *
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