How would you rather pay for the "barber shop"?

CherryCake · June 2016

Exactly what the title says. Besides it not being with in game money (which lets be honest...its ZOS, so it was obvious from the start), it seems that you have to buy an amount of tokens through the crown store, in order to change your character`s appearance. Once the tokens are done, you will have to buy them again. (at least from what I understood)

My idea was :
THIS could have been a good ESO+ perk AND a good one time payment thing on the crown store for those that do not have a subscription. Lets say 5000 crowns, such as the banker... an npc you can summon, talk to, and he loads you into the character creation screen.

I understand it is too late at the moment, but personally, I hate to imagine paying real money everytime (or every 5th time or something) I want to change the way my 3d character looks... its not real life yet ZOS xD.

So how would YOU have liked to see this implemented?

PLEASE, keep this civil. I know its hard for many of you, but try to be respectful towards another point of view. We are all customers here, some pay less, some pay more, but try to not attack others based on what they can afford.

phaneub17_ESO · June 2016

Like a stupid hipster and pay for it with my "craft" by interpretive dancing!

CherryCake · June 2016

phaneub17_ESO wrote: »

Like a stupid hipster and pay for it with my "craft" by interpretive dancing!

Please do be more descriptive kind Sir/Lady. How would you dance? Videos are ok xD

Neirymn · June 2016

Name and race change I am ok with this costing real money but I would have liked something in game to change our appreance for gold (2k for example) because if you screwed up once you can do it twice. lol

Appearance change could have been an ESO+ perk too but I am ok with everything else costing real money.

ContraTempo · June 2016

That is, access to the barbershop should be ESO+ Perk or 1 time purchase. That should include:

Change to any hairstyle in the basic character set up
Change to any basic face paint
Change to any basic face adornment'
Change to any body marking

Use as often as you like for free (or nominal gold).

For a 1 time purchase you should be able to get more of any of the above in packs from crown store. Once purchased use as often as you like for free.

For more radical changes (race, class, radical body & face redesign) a per use crown cost is appropriate.

This should let us easily change simple stuff but still create a working business model for ZOS. You know if it does not include some kind of ongoing income stream they won't go for it.

ShedsHisTail · June 2016

You've got a couple of things combined here which make it hard to answer the question.

Barber shop implies you're talking about hairstyles. Hairstyles, adornmnts, facial markings, etc. are purchased individually (or as a package) from the Crown Store. They are shared between characters and can be switched out on a whim like hats or costumes. These can be changed as often or as many times as you want. Once it's purchased it's yours forever.

Changing your character race, face/body appearance, or name are only allowed via purchase of one-use "tokens" from the crown store.

So, both options are available through the crown store, but in different forms and applied to the character in different ways at different times.

I would rather have seen the hairstyles purchasable with in-game gold; but I'm fine with the other features being Crown store items. I also would have been fine with -new- hairstyles only being available in the Crown store.

waterfairy · June 2016

I agree with you as I've said the same thing long ago. It should be a 1 time cost to buy a face sculptor assistant (see Skyrim) that's available to all of your characters that you can summon at will.

As much as I want to fix my character, there's no way I'm buying tokens each time I want to tweak them as that will easily cost many tokens trying to get things right (which ZOS is obviously capitalizing on).

ShedsHisTail · June 2016

Vigarr wrote: »

I agree with you as I've said the same thing long ago. It should be a 1 time cost to buy a barber assistant that's available to all of your characters that you can summon at will.

It is... minus the NPC.
Once purchased; hairstyles and adornments and such can be swapped out at will.
You just can't change your race, sex or body or whatever without a token.

waterfairy · June 2016

ShedsHisTail wrote: »

Vigarr wrote: »

I agree with you as I've said the same thing long ago. It should be a 1 time cost to buy a barber assistant that's available to all of your characters that you can summon at will.

It is... minus the NPC.
Once purchased; hairstyles and adornments and such can be swapped out at will.
You just can't change your race, sex or body or whatever without a token.

I'm talking about paying a 1 time cost to edit the character at will, perhaps I shouldn't have said "barber".

As absurd as it is to charge 5000 for a banker, I would probably pay that for a face sculpting assistant.

magnusthorek · June 2016

Since it seems that everything will be paid with Crowns, even the contents present in base game that we already paid for (preposterous) PLUS DLCs unique styles for those who bought them off, the Barber Shop itself must be part of the game.

Why the h*ck do I need to pay EVEN MORE real money just to throw things on my head?

qrichou · June 2016

I would toss a brick tru the shop windoww ,its no dress-up game .
but there should be an gamegold buy possibility but they are greedy so it i think they do a eso plus ripof as thgey did with the mat bags .

thisisScoMan · June 2016

As said earlier, depending exactly on what feature of the changes depends on what my answer would be.

Hairstyles, body markings etc should be in game currency.

Body morphing, name changes, race changes should be crown store.

Avalon · June 2016

Or... Here's an interesting idea:
Make hairstyling a new craft that needs leveling up, and you collect styles and colors, etc. Players then need to get other players to do their hair :-)

waterfairy · June 2016

qrichou wrote: »

I would toss a brick tru the shop windoww ,its no dress-up game .
but there should be an gamegold buy possibility but they are greedy so it i think they do a eso plus ripof as thgey did with the mat bags .

idgaf about changing hairstyles, I just want to fix his stupid looking face that I quickly made the first night when playing with friends.

Elsonso · June 2016

Me?

Name change is purchased with Crowns and done at Character Select.

Race and Gender change are purchased as a single token with Crowns and when logging into the world, character select comes up allowing customization of race, gender, and appearance.

Appearance changes not related to Race and Gender are paid in gold and done through an in-game "barbershop" that opens up the same character customization screen that is used for Race and Gender change.

And, for further reflection...

Alliance change is done in Cyrodiil. To change Alliance, you must actually go through Cyrodiil to the Alliance you want to change to and talk to an NPC at or near one of the gates. If you can get that far and get through the NPC dialog without being killed, you change Alliance immediately, lose all AP, and have a reduction in Alliance Rank. You should not be able to change Alliance more than once during the duration of the campaign, possibly longer, and you should only be able to change to an Alliance you have not been in (no going back).

Class change is done by the Divines, like Attribute and Skill, and refunds all Attribute, Class Skill, and Champion points at once for gold.

Xylphan · June 2016

You forgot an option: Exchange bug fix code for perks.

Seriously if they opened certain parts of their code base so the SE's who play this game could give it a once over, many of us would be willing to contribute FOR FREE.

But I might as well wish for a house made of money with hot and cold running donut faucets.

daemonios · June 2016

In my own dream ESO, all mounts, skins, costumes, dyes, hairstyles, house furnishings would be unlocked by playing the game. The crown store would be "what those other games have" and we'd laugh at the poor sods who play then. We'd gladly subscribe to ESO for all these features and a dev team that focused on giving us the best game possible.

Sadly, this isn't my dream ESO, so I cancelled my sub and didn't spend a single of my 30k crowns because I refuse to validate microtransactions.

Curtdogg47 · June 2016

I don't care one way or the other. If I get tired of the hair I'll unhide my helmet for a while.

ADarklore · June 2016

As I've stated in the other similar thread, I think people are making mountains out of mole hills and keep forgetting that ZOS needs to make money, serious money, to keep the game going. Adding 'one time charges' and things like that don't keep the doors open, it's the constant influx of REAL money, not in-game gold, that keeps the game afloat. With ONLY 7M 'accounts' ZOS is far behind the eight-ball compared to other 'world-wide' MMOs and with their staff, server costs, other overhead, and demanding shareholders, they need to find as many ways to generate constant revenue as possible. People may complain, but if you want the options to make changes 'after the fact', these are on YOU, not ZOS... I just do not believe in this whole 'lack of personal responsibility' generation we live in today. "I want to change the look of my character, why won't ZOS let me do it for free?" Because you CHOSE to create your character the way you did, so suck it up that it's YOUR FAULT, accept responsibility, and pay the cost to make changes.

CherryCake · June 2016

Vigarr wrote: »

qrichou wrote: »

I would toss a brick tru the shop windoww ,its no dress-up game .
but there should be an gamegold buy possibility but they are greedy so it i think they do a eso plus ripof as thgey did with the mat bags .

idgaf about changing hairstyles, I just want to fix his stupid looking face that I quickly made the first night when playing with friends.

Me too! My first character has a good face, however...a big bulky back, and boobies to the maximum because I thought they looked small in character creation, and now she looks really unproportionate (is that even a word ;___;?) and not fit for a healer xD

Rosveen · June 2016

ADarklore wrote: »

As I've stated in the other similar thread, I think people are making mountains out of mole hills and keep forgetting that ZOS needs to make money, serious money, to keep the game going. Adding 'one time charges' and things like that don't keep the doors open, it's the constant influx of REAL money, not in-game gold, that keeps the game afloat. With ONLY 7M 'accounts' ZOS is far behind the eight-ball compared to other 'world-wide' MMOs and with their staff, server costs, other overhead, and demanding shareholders, they need to find as many ways to generate constant revenue as possible. People may complain, but if you want the options to make changes 'after the fact', these are on YOU, not ZOS... I just do not believe in this whole 'lack of personal responsibility' generation we live in today. "I want to change the look of my character, why won't ZOS let me do it for free?" Because you CHOSE to create your character the way you did, so suck it up that it's YOUR FAULT, accept responsibility, and pay the cost to make changes.

*sigh*
I know they need money. I was willing to pay them money monthly for full access to the game. I was happy with that model. Now I can still pay them monthly if I choose, but even if I do so, things I want are cut into little pieces and locked behind more paywalls. The further it goes on, the more I am reminded why I didn't play MMOs before ESO. If this is how these games MUST function, then they aren't games for me - and I accept it, I do, but I am allowed to say why I don't like it, aren't I?

On topic: I would like to see basic hairstyles and adornments changeable for ingame gold, new hair/adornment packs purchasable as account upgrades from the crown store, full name/race/face/body modifications as one-time tokens in the crown store. I'd also like to see the Shadows of the Hist collector's bundle come with a race change token instead of XP scrolls. If this is impossible because of high price of such tokens that doesn't fit with their DLC pricing scheme, then add a body modification token instead.

Asmael · June 2016

Should have been gold for the basic features (just changing appearance), with extra hairstyles, tatoos... for crowns, and a few others available as long as you got ESO+.

Race / name change should be for crowns.

That way, you can still make some extra styles / features from time to time and keep getting a nice income.

Leandor · June 2016

How I feel most of the forum behaves:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i2KLyBapfTc

altemriel · June 2016

I would want to pay it with in-game gold, at least basic appearance change/race change and name change and maybe special changes or special addornments with real money

Did Zeni actually announce what will be the price of the tokens?

Duiwel · June 2016

Well lucky for my wallet they didn't make anything nice so I don't want any of their new items...

Ampnode · June 2016

Giving ESO+ members a one-time-thing for racial/appearance changes would've been nice, but I guess that'd be asking for too much, eh?

waterfairy · June 2016

EstelioVeleth wrote: »

Vigarr wrote: »

qrichou wrote: »

I would toss a brick tru the shop windoww ,its no dress-up game .
but there should be an gamegold buy possibility but they are greedy so it i think they do a eso plus ripof as thgey did with the mat bags .

idgaf about changing hairstyles, I just want to fix his stupid looking face that I quickly made the first night when playing with friends.

Me too! My first character has a good face, however...a big bulky back, and boobies to the maximum because I thought they looked small in character creation, and now she looks really unproportionate (is that even a word ;___;?) and not fit for a healer xD

ha I had the same problem with 1 of my females...I wanted her to look like a full figured woman, I get in game and she looks like balloons were stuffed in her armor

This is another reason why I wouldn't pay for a single character change...the character looks different in creation then in game so I would likely attempt to fix a problem and create another.

Hellbender27 · June 2016

How would you rather pay for the "barber shop"? Bookmark Oh I always pay in Cash and include a tip *snicker*

Miszou · June 2016

Is there a price on these things yet? Because there's a big difference between 50 crowns and 5,000 crowns that factors quite heavily into an informed answer...

KloudKotuzai · June 2016

lordrichter wrote: »

Me?

Name change is purchased with Crowns and done at Character Select.

Race and Gender change are purchased as a single token with Crowns and when logging into the world, character select comes up allowing customization of race, gender, and appearance.

Appearance changes not related to Race and Gender are paid in gold and done through an in-game "barbershop" that opens up the same character customization screen that is used for Race and Gender change.

And, for further reflection...

Alliance change is done in Cyrodiil. To change Alliance, you must actually go through Cyrodiil to the Alliance you want to change to and talk to an NPC at or near one of the gates. If you can get that far and get through the NPC dialog without being killed, you change Alliance immediately, lose all AP, and have a reduction in Alliance Rank. You should not be able to change Alliance more than once during the duration of the campaign, possibly longer, and you should only be able to change to an Alliance you have not been in (no going back).

Class change is done by the Divines, like Attribute and Skill, and refunds all Attribute, Class Skill, and Champion points at once for gold.

This ... but the alliance thing idk. But everything else, it makes sense and would work better.

Annalyse · June 2016

I think it is reasonable for things like new hair styles or tattoos to cost Crowns, but I think basic appearance changes should be optional between Crowns and in game money.

In other games I have played, you have 24 hours or more to edit your character after first making it, which is needed because characters NEVER look the same in game as they do in the creation screen. ESO does not give you that, however, and I find it very frustrating. I just want a way to tweak things because my characters came out not looking how I wanted once I had them in game.

I'd be perfectly happy to pay Crowns if I wanted major changes to hair or new things, but we shouldn't have to buy crowns just to try and tweak the character to look how we saw it in the creation screen.

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