[PS4] How come all the good players are on DC and AD.

The-Baconator · June 2016

Moglijuana wrote: »

The-Baconator wrote: »

Father_X_Zombie wrote: »

It's because:

1: most are kids who only played skyrim and liked the nords, causing overpopulation.

2: They pack together in big zergs, gapcloseing and light attacking their opponents to death , thus gaining no skill.

3: lack of coordinated guilds with good leaders to show them what their doing wrong.

The fact most EP I see are Nord DKs with non set heavy armour and a 2h weapon proves this.

All factions have their terribad pug zergs, and you can really only count the amount of "good" guilds between all three factions on one hand. EP is certainly not the exclusive or even the most popular refuge for baddies on our platform.

You right...I stopped playing AD for a bit this weekend and jumped on my DC. Jesus...the AD in Haderus fall down like dominoes. If you look in their direction they instantly die lmaoo

I have never seen the likes of AD on had, its just awful.

kaithuzar wrote: »

This guy has never heard of havok/haxus & never played on trueflame.
Many players on dc have ep toons as well.

You guys can git gud too, join a dueling guild, learn stuff, play hard, watch twitch streamers.

PS4, but xylena OP

Lokey0024 · June 2016

You think you finally find a good EP group then someone says it. "Green dragons blood is real good heal i dont need vigor"Or "im a pvp tank split 40 health 12 magika 12stam im always the last alive"

everyone i played with abandoned ship long ago and the newbs dont wanna hear nothin. Thank the gods for NBs still being a good solo class.

Takes-No-Prisoner · June 2016

Lokey0024 wrote: »

You think you finally find a good EP group then someone says it. "Green dragons blood is real good heal i dont need vigor"Or "im a pvp tank split 40 health 12 magika 12stam im always the last alive"

everyone i played with abandoned ship long ago and the newbs dont wanna hear nothin. Thank the gods for NBs still being a good solo class.

I ran into a AD group who got sucked into defending Aleswell farm last night, just seeing 15 DC try to destroy 1 AD tank for well over 5 minutes you know something is up with their builds. 1.0

It not just EP lol. I don't know about you, but there are times where I have to pick and choose who to help save in AD. Sometimes I see some AD go off into a spot I know is festering with EP Gankers on the bridge. Most of the time the guy I am trying to help doesn't last more then 2 seconds when they are trying to 1v5.

ThulsaDoomDC · June 2016

Dueling in PvP only works in "guess what, dueling". Group PvP and Solo PvP and Dueling are completely different. You have different builds for different PvP. I'm not gonna run a dueling build trying to take a keep because lets face it, when was the last time you had a 1v1 while taking a keep?

Wreuntzylla · June 2016

Chilla_Deluxe wrote: »

I feel like me and my brother are the only EP players who can do something in fights, example scenario; Me my brother and 15 Ep players are taking a keep, suddenly 3-4 DC players come wipe my whole team then me and my bro manage to kill 1-2 then die. Like really bra, not just that always I see EP being bullied and wiped out. Once in a while you'll see a decent EP player but most are bad. Dunno if its just in Haderus or what. But better players seem to stick to DC or AD, any logical reasoning? Besides AD and DC having better farm spots near their bases in IC sewers?

So, let me see if I have this right. You and your brother waited until the 3-4 DC players killed 15 EP players or the entire rest of your team, and then jumped in to kill 1-2 when their resources are low and still died ... and the 15 EP are bad players?

Chilla_Deluxe · June 2016

Wreuntzylla wrote: »

Chilla_Deluxe wrote: »

I feel like me and my brother are the only EP players who can do something in fights, example scenario; Me my brother and 15 Ep players are taking a keep, suddenly 3-4 DC players come wipe my whole team then me and my bro manage to kill 1-2 then die. Like really bra, not just that always I see EP being bullied and wiped out. Once in a while you'll see a decent EP player but most are bad. Dunno if its just in Haderus or what. But better players seem to stick to DC or AD, any logical reasoning? Besides AD and DC having better farm spots near their bases in IC sewers?

So, let me see if I have this right. You and your brother waited until the 3-4 DC players killed 15 EP players or the entire rest of your team, and then jumped in to kill 1-2 when their resources are low and still died ... and the 15 EP are bad players?

No they literally slaughtered our team in 45 seconds, except me and my brother since we can avoid being killed in 5 seconds unlike the rest of our team there. Your thinking it was an actual fight where all players knew what to do, more like sheep vs lions . All this time we killed 2 of them then were killed at the end. Like most of those guys on our team can't break free or dodge roll lol.

PurifedBladez · June 2016

Lokey0024 wrote: »

You think you finally find a good EP group then someone says it. "Green dragons blood is real good heal i dont need vigor"Or "im a pvp tank split 40 health 12 magika 12stam im always the last alive"

everyone i played with abandoned ship long ago and the newbs dont wanna hear nothin. Thank the gods for NBs still being a good solo class.

LOL. So true. I feel your pain. This happens in all factions though. It's why I play alone most of the time.

CompactVirus · June 2016

It's coz everyone wants a dragon flag innit?

It's the only thing I can think of really, who wants to be a lion or a poorly drawn Eagle when you can be a red dragon?!?

I love red zerg. EP = AP

americansteel · June 2016

Father_X_Zombie wrote: »

The-Baconator wrote: »

Father_X_Zombie wrote: »

It's because:

1: most are kids who only played skyrim and liked the nords, causing overpopulation.

2: They pack together in big zergs, gapcloseing and light attacking their opponents to death , thus gaining no skill.

3: lack of coordinated guilds with good leaders to show them what their doing wrong.

The fact most EP I see are Nord DKs with non set heavy armour and a 2h weapon proves this.

All factions have their terribad pug zergs, and you can really only count the amount of "good" guilds between all three factions on one hand. EP is certainly not the exclusive or even the most popular refuge for baddies on our platform.

While all factions have pugs, EP has by far the most. And the " good guilds" part can be debated, AD has the most try hard PvE and PvP guilds like Invictium and Collisium, DC has zerg buster guilds like STS and The Volkihar. Most EP guilds are just role playing guilds.

hahahaha AD and DC out number EP by a big margin, your faction and AD zetgs harder except in azuras star then again many of you DC AD tryhards dont want to play with out your CP.

races have a part in this but alot of EP use non EP races.

more people on a faction generally have more good players and bad players,

its not at times good players its alot of i see high sustain unstoppable builds, important to note that many. DC AD Players cheat and or exploit the game, need i say your only AR50 players name?

Being a tool blade doesnt count for being good when their mobility and dps is insane

Aisle9 · June 2016

It's on PC (EU, Asura's Star), not PS4, but, eh... I felt like sharing

just saying...

sluice · June 2016

I thought all the good players were mostly in DC and a little bit in EP.

EP has a few good players here and there but are generally chaotic.
DC has the best/organized groups and are generally a real pain to play agains't.
AD seems just chaotic and not well organized at all.

-Coming from a AD

Moglijuana · June 2016

sluice wrote: »

I thought all the good players were mostly in DC and a little bit in EP.

EP has a few good players here and there but are generally chaotic.
DC has the best/organized groups and are generally a real pain to play agains't.
AD seems just chaotic and not well organized at all.

-Coming from a AD

Lol. You must play in Haderus...

thankyourat · June 2016

The best players on xbox1 are in EP and DC. AD has really good players also. But most yellows are the zerglings atleast in haderus. Yea EP and DC zergs also, but AD will bring 50 people to take a outpost and get everyone kicked from the server. That's why most of the time I play solo now. And the easiest people to 1vX are also yellows. I can usually camp in between a yellow and red battle and get about 12 - 15 kills before they finally group up and zerg me down

DjKahun · June 2016

Heyyy I'm a good EP player on PS4

sluice · June 2016

Moglijuana wrote: »

sluice wrote: »

I thought all the good players were mostly in DC and a little bit in EP.

EP has a few good players here and there but are generally chaotic.
DC has the best/organized groups and are generally a real pain to play agains't.
AD seems just chaotic and not well organized at all.

-Coming from a AD

Lol. You must play in Haderus...

Yup, but I play more and more in Chillrend.
There is no fun when a map is completely dominated by one faction with zergs running everywhere.

Moglijuana · June 2016

sluice wrote: »

Moglijuana wrote: »

sluice wrote: »

I thought all the good players were mostly in DC and a little bit in EP.

EP has a few good players here and there but are generally chaotic.
DC has the best/organized groups and are generally a real pain to play agains't.
AD seems just chaotic and not well organized at all.

-Coming from a AD

Lol. You must play in Haderus...

Yup, but I play more and more in Chillrend.
There is no fun when a map is completely dominated by one faction with zergs running everywhere.

Haderus is home to Yellows who can only zerg. There is no real coordination in there which results in other enemy players going in to farm AP. Check out some dominated servers of the opposite faction and you'll find the stronger yellows. Skull of Corruption has been crazy fun, especially when the small groups I run with can defend 40+ people of Daggerfall "Elite" at a keep. This weekend alone I made 1 million AP with simple coordination.

sluice · June 2016

Moglijuana wrote: »

sluice wrote: »

Moglijuana wrote: »

sluice wrote: »

I thought all the good players were mostly in DC and a little bit in EP.

EP has a few good players here and there but are generally chaotic.
DC has the best/organized groups and are generally a real pain to play agains't.
AD seems just chaotic and not well organized at all.

-Coming from a AD

Lol. You must play in Haderus...

Yup, but I play more and more in Chillrend.
There is no fun when a map is completely dominated by one faction with zergs running everywhere.

Haderus is home to Yellows who can only zerg. There is no real coordination in there which results in other enemy players going in to farm AP. Check out some dominated servers of the opposite faction and you'll find the stronger yellows. Skull of Corruption has been crazy fun, especially when the small groups I run with can defend 40+ people of Daggerfall "Elite" at a keep. This weekend alone I made 1 million AP with simple coordination.

Yeah Haderus is horrible. It's dominated by either Yellows (70% of the time) or Reds (30% of the time).
Chillrend is more balanced.

I'll check out Skull of Corruption!

Moglijuana · June 2016

sluice wrote: »

Moglijuana wrote: »

sluice wrote: »

Moglijuana wrote: »

sluice wrote: »

I thought all the good players were mostly in DC and a little bit in EP.

EP has a few good players here and there but are generally chaotic.
DC has the best/organized groups and are generally a real pain to play agains't.
AD seems just chaotic and not well organized at all.

-Coming from a AD

Lol. You must play in Haderus...

Yup, but I play more and more in Chillrend.
There is no fun when a map is completely dominated by one faction with zergs running everywhere.

Haderus is home to Yellows who can only zerg. There is no real coordination in there which results in other enemy players going in to farm AP. Check out some dominated servers of the opposite faction and you'll find the stronger yellows. Skull of Corruption has been crazy fun, especially when the small groups I run with can defend 40+ people of Daggerfall "Elite" at a keep. This weekend alone I made 1 million AP with simple coordination.

Yeah Haderus is horrible. It's dominated by either Yellows (70% of the time) or Reds (30% of the time).
Chillrend is more balanced.

I'll check out Skull of Corruption!

Yea Chillrend sees a lot more competitive action than Haderus does that is for sure. Good luck! If you see the Red Wings tabards any time in Skull make sure to follow us for some easy AP =D.

Takes-No-Prisoner · June 2016

Chillrend had an amazing fight at Arrius keep last night, hope you all were there 1.0

The-Baconator · June 2016

I don't know what chillrend everyone else is playing on, but it is literally the most lopsided buff campaign atm. It seems red shows up intermittently to try to push emp and then inevitably crumbles with there being literally less than a hundred daggerfall homed on the server (homed to try it out and 10k ap had me at 70th place). I don't know how a faction can hold emp for literally a week with map domination and have any fun playing in a campaign, its why most decent blues only go to scourge when literally everything else is dead. You could take arrius 12v40 with emp present only to have glade pvdoored with 18\20 while red can't even get arrius.

Takes-No-Prisoner · June 2016

There were some blues in IC on Chill. Though I only have gone there once-- top side IC I mean. Sewers, I don't see blues. They have had some respectable pushes and gotten Brindle and Roebeck. They just need bodies to show up consistently. Red? IDK what they are doing when they make pushes. They can't seem to keep any ground they push towards.

Though the fun aspect primarily stems from fighting the Reds in the campaign when they show up in large numbers.

AlphaCrucis · June 2016

I play on AD and I'm ***

Hawco10 · June 2016

EP always seem to do the following when I'm (DC) defending a keep.
1. Jump and down beside the wall waiting for it to come down and then dying a lot in the process.
2. About 10% of said group have siege.
3. Charge round to the front door then die as they get insta poped.
4. Continue to jump around next to the inner postern and dying to oil and such.
5. Rush straight into the breach and get snared by the caltrops and then die to more oil.
6. Get dragged next to the NPC's then die.

I could go on and on but that's the usual EP method that I've seen anyway.

Paraflex · June 2016

Here is footage from last night in Haderous PS4. EP Zerg plus and Emp was getting thrown around all night by 1 full group.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vMrZzf0wdVw&feature=youtu.be

AD has plenty of good players you just don't play with them is my guess.

Moglijuana · June 2016

Paraflex wrote: »

Here is footage from last night in Haderous PS4. EP Zerg plus and Emp was getting thrown around all night by 1 full group.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vMrZzf0wdVw&feature=youtu.be

AD has plenty of good players you just don't play with them is my guess.

lol. Good song choice Holly lmao.

Burning_Talons · June 2016

RebornV3x wrote: »

Its pretty much the same on Xbox One about 99% of EP is garbage and I'm embarrassed to play with them.

This ^
I also just dont like being in groups

NeillMcAttack · June 2016

Paraflex wrote: »

Here is footage from last night in Haderous PS4. EP Zerg plus and Emp was getting thrown around all night by 1 full group.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vMrZzf0wdVw&feature=youtu.be

AD has plenty of good players you just don't play with them is my guess.

Well, let's be fair here. That "gameplay" is hardly representative of being good. More so just being compact. A 24 man ball group will have the advantage over any number of small and solo players that aren't spamming as much AOE as you!!

Strider_Roshin · June 2016

Chilla_Deluxe wrote: »

I feel like me and my brother are the only EP players who can do something in fights, example scenario; Me my brother and 15 Ep players are taking a keep, suddenly 3-4 DC players come wipe my whole team then me and my bro manage to kill 1-2 then die. Like really bra, not just that always I see EP being bullied and wiped out. Once in a while you'll see a decent EP player but most are bad. Dunno if its just in Haderus or what. But better players seem to stick to DC or AD, any logical reasoning? Besides AD and DC having better farm spots near their bases in IC sewers?

Honestly man, a lot of good players aren't really active in Cyrodiil. I've got some excellent players in my guild: S-p-a-r-d-a-, Warglaiive, OhApocalyptic, bolt_99, Ikadoe, Bam_mam_mac, and myself. We just hate zerg PvP so it's very seldom we're active in Cyrodiil. We hang out in the sewers pretty often though, but lately it's due to us leveling up alts. To be honest there's not much for a PvPer to do in this game unless you like zerg PvP. Plenty of things to do in PvE though, but the issue is that PvE is so easy it's boring so this game has become more about socializing rather than PvPing.

Takes-No-Prisoner · June 2016

I have seen you and Sparda before together in AS Strider 1.0

. I see a lot of your type in IC/Sewers. However, I would recommend coming out and learning to play in the Overworld PvP. Sewer and IC PvP teaches you some pretty solid tools... But those tools don't translate 100% over into Overworld Cyrodiil PvP.

Moglijuana · June 2016

NeillMcAttack wrote: »

Paraflex wrote: »

Here is footage from last night in Haderous PS4. EP Zerg plus and Emp was getting thrown around all night by 1 full group.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vMrZzf0wdVw&feature=youtu.be

AD has plenty of good players you just don't play with them is my guess.

Well, let's be fair here. That "gameplay" is hardly representative of being good. More so just being compact. A 24 man ball group will have the advantage over any number of small and solo players that aren't spamming as much AOE as you!!

lol. That ball group is actually filled with really strong solo players doing a guild event. Those reds were definitely not solo either since before that video happened all 60+ of them were trying to farm yellow at the gates.