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Valkyn Skoria Damage Change

Vaoh
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Problem:
• It deals fire damage
• It can't be dyed much, so it's ugly
• One dye slot changes nothing
• I has an Ice Mage Sorc

Solution
• Dye Color changes damage type
• The current dye slot that does not change color could now be colored to determine damage type
- Red/Orange FIRE
- Blue/Light Blue COLD
- Dark Blue/ SHOCK
- Green/Light Green POISON
- Dark Green/ DISEASE
- Purple/Yellow MAGIC
- Black/White PHYSICAL
(something like this. not the exact colors)

Please. My Ice Mage Sorc wants to use this set. Being an Ice Mage drastically limits the gear/skills that I can use without Spellcrafting. Gimme Skoria!

***NOTE: If including Stamina based damage types is an issue, this could still be used to alter between magic, fire, cold, and shock.
Edited by Vaoh on June 28, 2016 6:33AM

Valkyn Skoria Damage Change 60 votes

Sure, why not.
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Naw, sorry.
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  • FLuFFyxMuFFiN
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    Sure, why not.
    Interesting idea
  • XaXa
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    Sure, why not.
    Agreed with Fluffy. Interesting idea.
  • Molag_Crow
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    Ummmmmm..... I'm sure it would take A LOT of systematic work on the game engine to just simply change a dye color to change the values of a spell effect on the piece of armor. :p nice idea though.
    Edited by Molag_Crow on June 28, 2016 6:36AM
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  • Vangy
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    Im a little confused. No racial passive or skill line grants bonus to ice damage no?

    So you are unhappy with skoria cos it affects your immersion/chosen theme of being an ice mage yes? And this change/no-change would have no effect on the mathematical output in terms of DPS on your toon?

    If im wrong then I do apologise. Maybe there's something I missed. The easy alternative I propose is that the dye slot proposed just becomes the color of the meteor coming down so it dosent affect your RP. Like the only race that would want this to stay as fire is dunmer. Changing it to ice benefits no-one in terms of DPS. Unless I missed something in the race change notes.

    EDIT: ah wait... im sure some sorc passives have lightning bonus tied to them like disintegrate. Still cant think of any ice thingies tho.
    Edited by Vangy on June 28, 2016 6:40AM
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  • Molag_Crow
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    Vangy wrote: »
    Im a little confused. No racial passive or skill line grants bonus to ice damage no?

    So you are unhappy with skoria cos it affects your immersion/chosen theme of being an ice mage yes? And this change/no-change would have no effect on the mathematical output in terms of DPS on your toon?

    If im wrong then I do apologise. Maybe there's something I missed. The easy alternative I propose is that the dye slot proposed just becomes the color of the meteor coming down so it dosent affect your RP. Like the only race that would want this to stay as fire is dunmer. Changing it to ice benefits no-one in terms of DPS. Unless I missed something in the race change notes.

    EDIT: ah wait... im sure some sorc passives have lightning bonus tied to them like disintegrate. Still cant think of any ice thingies tho.

    I was thinking the same. I think Dark Elf & High Elve's racials are changing slightly so that no race focuses on extra elemental damage.
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  • Mirelurk
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    Well, considering the circumstances you have to weather to get Valkyn Skoria, I'd say it's pretty much tied to fire damage.

    Also, imagine the numpties who already whinge about dyes being able to legitimately say they affect gameplay in some way.

    I reckon it would be better to lobby for Direfrost Keep to be turned into a vet dungeon and give you an ice-based monster helm.
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  • Vaoh
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    Sure, why not.
    Vangy wrote: »
    Im a little confused. No racial passive or skill line grants bonus to ice damage no?

    So you are unhappy with skoria cos it affects your immersion/chosen theme of being an ice mage yes? And this change/no-change would have no effect on the mathematical output in terms of DPS on your toon?

    If im wrong then I do apologise. Maybe there's something I missed. The easy alternative I propose is that the dye slot proposed just becomes the color of the meteor coming down so it dosent affect your RP. Like the only race that would want this to stay as fire is dunmer. Changing it to ice benefits no-one in terms of DPS. Unless I missed something in the race change notes.

    It will not change much at all in terms of DPS.

    It simply allows Skoria to not look terrible, have the meteors themselves do different damage types (cool new meteor visuals too!) and to open up more options of DPS.

    Cold Damage also means one more Winterborn Proc. A Shock Meteor also benefits the entire Magicka Sorcerer class in terms of DPS thanks to passives.

    The point is to provide the option of making it deal different damage types. I don't see why not, as it would be a cool change :)
  • Molag_Crow
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    Mirelurk wrote: »
    Well, considering the circumstances you have to weather to get Valkyn Skoria, I'd say it's pretty much tied to fire damage.

    Also, imagine the numpties who already whinge about dyes being able to legitimately say they affect gameplay in some way.

    I reckon it would be better to lobby for Direfrost Keep to be turned into a vet dungeon and give you an ice-based monster helm.

    Nice idea. Direfrost Veteran = Ice version of Skoria!
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  • XaXa
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    Sure, why not.
    Mirelurk wrote: »
    Well, considering the circumstances you have to weather to get Valkyn Skoria, I'd say it's pretty much tied to fire damage.

    Also, imagine the numpties who already whinge about dyes being able to legitimately say they affect gameplay in some way.

    I reckon it would be better to lobby for Direfrost Keep to be turned into a vet dungeon and give you an ice-based monster helm.

    But, But, Costume Dyes is TOTALLY pay to win!

    (joking)
    Edited by XaXa on June 28, 2016 6:45AM
  • Vaoh
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    Sure, why not.
    Mirelurk wrote: »
    Well, considering the circumstances you have to weather to get Valkyn Skoria, I'd say it's pretty much tied to fire damage.

    Also, imagine the numpties who already whinge about dyes being able to legitimately say they affect gameplay in some way.

    I reckon it would be better to lobby for Direfrost Keep to be turned into a vet dungeon and give you an ice-based monster helm.

    I would agree, but Vet Direfrost is not coming anytime in the near future :(

    The undaunted monster set based on Iceheart (yup, that big frost atronach's head/shoulder was datamined) is very late.

    ***The icons were datamined, not the set bonuses.
    Edited by Vaoh on June 28, 2016 6:48AM
  • Vildebill
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    Naw, sorry.
    Fire damage boss from The Deadlands which is FULL OF LAVA, and you think the fire damage should be changed? :trollface:
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  • Vaoh
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    Sure, why not.
    @Vildebill
    Oh plz lol.... I've soloed that wannabe countless times on multiple characters.

    It's about time I get the option to tear off his head and color/enchant its procs the way I want >:)

    (For the record, he also deals physical damage :trollface: )

    Edited by Vaoh on June 28, 2016 7:03AM
  • Vangy
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    Doncellius wrote: »
    @Vildebill
    Oh plz lol.... I've soloed that wannabe countless times on multiple characters.

    It's about time I get the option to tear off his head and color/enchant its procs the way I want >:)

    (For the record, he also deals physical damage :trollface: )

    @Doncellius

    For some reason I imagine a big floppy walrus flopping ontop of valkyns going at his head with a hack-axe while gruntin/snorting (or making whatever noises walruses make).
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  • leepalmer95
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    I'm confused why can't you use skoria with an ice character? Skoria is affected by cp? Fire/icelight/magicka are all in the same cp.
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  • yvesfouquet4
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    Sure, why not.
    Good idea and about the effect
    Ice staff, it should proc an Ice Comet
    Fire staff, fire meteor as it is now
    Lightning staff, could do a lightning strike
    Poison dot/dmg could proc a poison cloud or some green muddy floor effect
    Phys dmg could proc some stone/rock comet/projectile

    Im not the most creative person but im sure theres ppl with better ideas, but thats how it could definately add an extra dimension :-)

    Also the dmg done should be adaptable to ur main dmg source, then there would be more builds benefiting from it, which improves the diversity of the game. And that should be a change for all monster sets. Theres a lot of sets that provides X ammount of weap AND spell dmg increase. This should be the same for skoria & other sets.

    And zenimax should change the useless monster sets to something attractive, so theres more variety.
    After the recent patch for exemple theres only 2 kind of builds that are still viable for PVP, and the purpose of this game was that there would be more options, way more options ..
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  • Vaoh
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    Sure, why not.
    @Vangy
    You are not far off my friend!

    Except it's not a walrus....

    It's a horker. Hence, my Forum profile pic B)

    @leepalmer95
    Nothing stops me from using Skoria. I do use Skoria since it would not be very smart to not go 2x Skoria/5x Winterborn/3x Willpower, and MA Ice/Restro staves for my build.

    I just hate the flying fireball that ups my DPS so much as an Ice mage. So, why not have the option to change this? Benefits us, and hurts no one. I thought it would be really cool, and finally let us dye the armor AND better support Sorc Shock passives or (in my case) an Ice build for fun :)
  • mistermutiny89
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    Sure, why not.
    This is a very Warframe-esque idea and I loike!
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  • Totalitarian
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    Mirelurk wrote: »
    Well, considering the circumstances you have to weather to get Valkyn Skoria, I'd say it's pretty much tied to fire damage.

    Every time I read the Frozen Tome, I'm disappointed that Valkyn Skoria doesn't turn stark white and become an awesome cryo version of himself.
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  • Bad_Company
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    Naw, sorry.
    Guys, while there is no reason to dislike the idea of having more options, I have to remind you that the Skoria set is a monster set. Which means it should do something the boss dropping it does. There will be more monster sets for more builds, don't worry.
    Also, main reason why this "dye-effect" idea looks absurd to me is that if someone playing a magicka DK (for example) wants to dye the helmet/shoulders he gets a different effect from the helm. Furthermore, do you have any idea how much effort would something like this require in terms of coding?
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  • Vaoh
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    Sure, why not.
    Guys, while there is no reason to dislike the idea of having more options, I have to remind you that the Skoria set is a monster set. Which means it should do something the boss dropping it does. There will be more monster sets for more builds, don't worry.
    Also, main reason why this "dye-effect" idea looks absurd to me is that if someone playing a magicka DK (for example) wants to dye the helmet/shoulders he gets a different effect from the helm. Furthermore, do you have any idea how much effort would something like this require in terms of coding?

    Fair point :)

    Except.... The dye that changes meteor damage procs is on the spot that does not change the Helm/Shoulder physical appearance.

    Though Maw of the Infernal (maybe others as well, but cannot think of the atm) does not necessarily follow suit.

    You can't blame me for loving my own idea. Tbh I really want this! Also have doubts that if it was implemented people would complain.
    Edited by Vaoh on June 28, 2016 7:47AM
  • Mirelurk
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    Every time I read the Frozen Tome, I'm disappointed that Valkyn Skoria doesn't turn stark white and become an awesome cryo version of himself.[/quote]

    I accidentally gave you an agree ... but you deserved an awesome :P
    Edited by Mirelurk on June 28, 2016 9:02AM
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  • Kas
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    ice makes a difference, e.g. it could proc winterborn (and work differently with succession)
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  • mb10
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    Naw, sorry.
    NO. NO. NO.

    How can dye change the effect of VALKYN SKORIA. Do you guys know what a Valkyn is??

    He's one of the elite guards of Mehrunes Dagon and resides in the Deadlands. There should be NOTHING other than flame damage, and a lot of it.

    His helm is the shape of any dremora helm and if you look at the Xivkyn polymorphs its very similar but just in a different colour.

    Sorry but this has to be the worst idea I've seen especially as there is already an ICE COMET ultimate so you have an ice meteor ability there.

    Instead of changing VS, the most they should do is just introduce a few new ice abilities.
  • mb10
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    Naw, sorry.
    Molag_Crow wrote: »
    Mirelurk wrote: »
    Well, considering the circumstances you have to weather to get Valkyn Skoria, I'd say it's pretty much tied to fire damage.

    Also, imagine the numpties who already whinge about dyes being able to legitimately say they affect gameplay in some way.

    I reckon it would be better to lobby for Direfrost Keep to be turned into a vet dungeon and give you an ice-based monster helm.

    Nice idea. Direfrost Veteran = Ice version of Skoria!

    the boss at direfrost doesnt have an attack which is an ice meteor though...
  • Birdovic
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    I'd like to add my suggestion I alread gave for Dragonknights "Ferocious Leap" Ultimate.

    Currently, "Ferocious Leap" deals physical Damage and gives a Damage Shield for a few Seconds.
    I barely see people using that so I suggested to change it to something like this:


    The Damage Type is changed, depending on your equipped Weapon(or Enchant is possible, too)

    This means:

    - If you use a Inferno Staff (or Flame Enchant), your Ferocious Leap deals Flame Damage when Landing
    - If you use a Shock Staff (or Shock Enchant), your Ferocious Leap deals Shock Damage when Landing
    - If you use a FrostStaff (or Frost Enchant), your Ferocious Leap deals Frost Damage when Landing

    Now, the same can be done to Skoria as example.
    Having a frost staff equipped(or frost enchant on weapon) turns skoria procs into Frost damage.

    I dont see why this shouldnt work. If we think about the Destro Staff Skill Tree, every Ability there can change depending on equipped Weapon, so why not with a few Sets or other Abilities, too?


    Edited by Birdovic on June 28, 2016 9:13AM
  • TheMachineKiller
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    Sure, why not.
    I like the idea +1
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  • Vaoh
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    Sure, why not.
    mb10 wrote: »
    NO. NO. NO.

    How can dye change the effect of VALKYN SKORIA. Do you guys know what a Valkyn is??

    He's one of the elite guards of Mehrunes Dagon and resides in the Deadlands. There should be NOTHING other than flame damage, and a lot of it.

    His helm is the shape of any dremora helm and if you look at the Xivkyn polymorphs its very similar but just in a different colour.

    Sorry but this has to be the worst idea I've seen especially as there is already an ICE COMET ultimate so you have an ice meteor ability there.

    Instead of changing VS, the most they should do is just introduce a few new ice abilities.

    I didn't think it was a horrible idea :(

    Besides, Valkyn Skoria is a weakling. I claimed his head as a trophy many times, alone. I can infuse it with Cold or Shock if I want to. Is HE gonna stop me? Didn't think so! Lol. Xivkyn helms are also dyeable any color I want too.

    Oh well, you really don't want this option. Np
    Edited by Vaoh on June 28, 2016 9:15AM
  • Pathfindr
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    I just want to be able to dye it...
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  • AtAfternoon
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    I'd rather see new sets working similarly to Valkyn Skoria. Maybe not carbon copy but similar enough that someone who prefer dealing shock, disease or w/e damage would prefer rivalling sets above Skoria.

    edit: still a very cool idea.
    Edited by AtAfternoon on June 28, 2016 10:07AM
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