what can be done to make magic dk in pvp great again.

Sythen88411 · June 2016

I have been playing magic dk again and would what are others thoughts on magic dk and what we need.

RoamingRiverElk · June 2016

The higher the max magicka, the more stamina regen while blocking. Or something like that.
Dragon Blood restored.
Working gap closer.
Cheaper skills.
Faster ultimate generation.
Clouding Swarm fixed.

Sythen88411 · June 2016

I would rly love a dk execute...

Draxys · June 2016

This is what we think:

https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/273438/calling-all-pvp-magicka-dks-document-to-the-devs#latest

Orchish · June 2016

Fix Dragonblood. Been broken for too long now. Cannot believe it was not adjusted during the recent ability changes.

Cinder Storm bring it back to its former glory, cast on ground with dodge chance.

SneaK · June 2016

All these threads...

My best running mate in Cyro is a magDK. He is great, you can be to.. But guess what, you need to learn to play your class.

Fasoo · June 2016

This is so funny. Magicka DK needs a buff but I mean seriously they are the tankiest spec in the game alongside Stam DK and I think it's weird that people want to be the tankiest and have the biggest heal (dragon's blood again) and way more damage. Open world they definitely do way too little damage I just don't see how they buff the class without making it identical to 1.5 and before where mag DK was so broken it wasn't fair to other classes. They need to find a middle ground which I don't really know where they could get it . 1v1 magicka DK is a beast if played right , open world no, large scale group they are great utility. It's hard to say what they need

Ghost-Shot · June 2016

Fasoo wrote: »

This is so funny. Magicka DK needs a buff but I mean seriously they are the tankiest spec in the game alongside Stam DK and I think it's weird that people want to be the tankiest and have the biggest heal (dragon's blood again) and way more damage. Open world they definitely do way too little damage I just don't see how they buff the class without making it identical to 1.5 and before where mag DK was so broken it wasn't fair to other classes. They need to find a middle ground which I don't really know where they could get it . 1v1 magicka DK is a beast if played right , open world no, large scale group they are great utility. It's hard to say what they need

All I want is dragons blood, if they give us back our heal then the damage is fine.

Ishammael · June 2016

Ghost-Shot wrote: »

Fasoo wrote: »

This is so funny. Magicka DK needs a buff but I mean seriously they are the tankiest spec in the game alongside Stam DK and I think it's weird that people want to be the tankiest and have the biggest heal (dragon's blood again) and way more damage. Open world they definitely do way too little damage I just don't see how they buff the class without making it identical to 1.5 and before where mag DK was so broken it wasn't fair to other classes. They need to find a middle ground which I don't really know where they could get it . 1v1 magicka DK is a beast if played right , open world no, large scale group they are great utility. It's hard to say what they need

All I want is dragons blood, if they give us back our heal then the damage is fine.

can has major evasion on cinder storm, too, pls!?!?!?!!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?

PS. Need dragon blood.

Ghost-Shot · June 2016

Ishammael wrote: »

Ghost-Shot wrote: »

Fasoo wrote: »

This is so funny. Magicka DK needs a buff but I mean seriously they are the tankiest spec in the game alongside Stam DK and I think it's weird that people want to be the tankiest and have the biggest heal (dragon's blood again) and way more damage. Open world they definitely do way too little damage I just don't see how they buff the class without making it identical to 1.5 and before where mag DK was so broken it wasn't fair to other classes. They need to find a middle ground which I don't really know where they could get it . 1v1 magicka DK is a beast if played right , open world no, large scale group they are great utility. It's hard to say what they need

All I want is dragons blood, if they give us back our heal then the damage is fine.

can has major evasion on cinder storm, too, pls!?!?!?!!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?

PS. Need dragon blood.

Baby steps

hammayolettuce · June 2016

Fasoo wrote: »

This is so funny. Magicka DK needs a buff but I mean seriously they are the tankiest spec in the game alongside Stam DK and I think it's weird that people want to be the tankiest and have the biggest heal (dragon's blood again) and way more damage. Open world they definitely do way too little damage I just don't see how they buff the class without making it identical to 1.5 and before where mag DK was so broken it wasn't fair to other classes. They need to find a middle ground which I don't really know where they could get it . 1v1 magicka DK is a beast if played right , open world no, large scale group they are great utility. It's hard to say what they need

What's wrong with 1.5 magicka DK? It's not like ZOS is going back to a dynamic ultimate gain system- which was a huge part of why 1.5 DK was so strong. People won't be able to drop a banner every 2 seconds like in 1.5, and that was one of the main things that made the class so strong. Also, there have been changes to other game mechanics that would prevent magicka DK from being as strong as in 1.5: choosing light armor over heavy is more of a sacrifice now, roll dodging is much more expensive, permablocking is near impossible unless you build for it- but it couldn't be a magicka build regardless. Igneous and Fragmented shield are a joke in terms of shield strength (and damage done for the fragmented morph). Dragon's blood is still a weak heal. I've never really advocated for more damage for dks, but their utility and tank skills should be stronger in my opinion. Either that or give us back flame lash.

vokage89 · June 2016

id say dragon blood ignoring battle spirit ... and dragon fire scale reflecting 8 up from 4 ... Would be the Best start.

the DK was Built for a game that does not exist anymore. all of the changes made.. have hurt the Mag dk the most.

Health based skills, these were good when there was a soft cap and no battle spirit...

Resource management based off of ULt, this was good when we had dynamic ult gen ..

No regen while blocking , so MDK cannot count on blocking to defend..Poor class healing..terrible resource managment..

Honeslty... if there is some reason you do not feel that DK skills of old should not be buffed..or brought back to the original design..
I would at least like to know why Zenimax.

PosternHouse · June 2016

Pls fix Dragon Blood kthx

Waylander · June 2016

I would be happy if green dragon blood/coagulating blood gave the current (craptastic) burst heal and then a vigor like HOT on the heart beats.

Change one stone fist morph to dragon punch, which is an execute modeled straight off street fighter 2.

There, Magica DK is complete.

Lord_Hev · June 2016

SneaK wrote: »

All these threads...

My best running mate in Cyro is a magDK. He is great, you can be to.. But guess what, you need to learn to play your class.

A console player is telling all the old-school DKs that they need to L2p. Watch out guys, we got a smart-ass here.

Lokey0024 · June 2016

SneaK wrote: »

All these threads...

My best running mate in Cyro is a magDK. He is great, you can be to.. But guess what, you need to learn to play your class.

Its funny you felt the need to say anything

Asgari · June 2016

Lord_Hev wrote: »

SneaK wrote: »

All these threads...

My best running mate in Cyro is a magDK. He is great, you can be to.. But guess what, you need to learn to play your class.

A console player is telling all the old-school DKs that they need to L2p. Watch out guys, we got a smart-ass here.

It's funny when these handicapped players come here not knowing what once was. They have no addons to show real dps/hps, spell and armor pen, etc. yet seem to know more than the people who pioneered the class.

Sure mDK is fine in groups large and small, it's because they are being healed by other players... However, they can not effectively be that "tank" class when Drangons Blood heals for less than most heals. It's a self heal not affecting any other player and heals terribly even pushing 30k health.

Regardless of the skills being some of the highest costs and technically one ultimate and it's morphs working for magicka it just can't heal itself effectively once it's low.

Buff/fix/change DRAGONS BLOOD!

Sythen88411 · June 2016

Even with cp in the right spot its still not as good as the old days of magic dk...

Asgari · June 2016

Sythen88411 wrote: »

Even with cp in the right spot its still not as good as the old days of magic dk...

Its never going to be because of soft caps and dynamic ult gen being gone.

KenaPKK · June 2016

Major Evasion is a silly buff. Same with miss chance. Make them go away altogether imo.

HoloYoitsu · June 2016

Step 1: Revert the anti-blocking changes made since IC.
Step 2: Revert the 50% Battle Spirit crap from IC.
Step 3: Have someone (not Wrobel) balance damage/healing on a skill by skill basis like every other half way competent MMO developer on the planet.
Step 4: Respec your magicka DK out of crafting.
Step 5: Enjoy.

Master_Kas · June 2016

Not a single of the changes people wanted for mDK made it to the PTS. GJ ZOS.

Aquanova · June 2016

For starters, they should reduce the cost of skills like whip, dragons blood, igneous shield. Change ferocious leap to magic or fire damage, maybe a reduced cost to 100 ultimate. There's no good reason for ZOS not to do something like this.

HoloYoitsu · June 2016

Aquanova wrote: »

For starters, they should reduce the cost of skills like whip, dragons blood, igneous shield. Change ferocious leap to magic or fire damage, maybe a reduced cost to 100 ultimate. There's no good reason for ZOS not to do something like this.

I have a better idea, they should fix the spaghetti coding that resulted in all skills getting a 10+% cost increase when they removed vet levels in DB. Then go from there.

I don't know in what world ZOS thinks 10+% is "only slightly more", but it sure as hell ain't this one.

Sythen88411 · June 2016

I eat pots or have no dps my life.... will be hitting pst to HOPE to find something. .

Sythen88411 · June 2016

The weekend is coming

SneaK · June 2016

Princess_Asgari wrote: »

Lord_Hev wrote: »

SneaK wrote: »

All these threads...

My best running mate in Cyro is a magDK. He is great, you can be to.. But guess what, you need to learn to play your class.

A console player is telling all the old-school DKs that they need to L2p. Watch out guys, we got a smart-ass here.

It's funny when these handicapped players come here not knowing what once was. They have no addons to show real dps/hps, spell and armor pen, etc. yet seem to know more than the people who pioneered the class.

Sure mDK is fine in groups large and small, it's because they are being healed by other players... However, they can not effectively be that "tank" class when Drangons Blood heals for less than most heals. It's a self heal not affecting any other player and heals terribly even pushing 30k health.

Regardless of the skills being some of the highest costs and technically one ultimate and it's morphs working for magicka it just can't heal itself effectively once it's low.

Buff/fix/change DRAGONS BLOOD!

I didn't claim to know more than you about the class. But frankly, IDGAF if you "pioneered" the class. Just making the statement that this is the umpteenth thread with "pioneers" asking how to be better magdk's. It's funny.

And for Hev's console comment, you have a year's more of playtime, in which most mechanics are long gone from that era. So yep, maybe come up stairs from time to time and learn something from the people playing in their living rooms.

Crystelle · June 2016

SneaK wrote: »

Princess_Asgari wrote: »

Lord_Hev wrote: »

SneaK wrote: »

All these threads...

My best running mate in Cyro is a magDK. He is great, you can be to.. But guess what, you need to learn to play your class.

A console player is telling all the old-school DKs that they need to L2p. Watch out guys, we got a smart-ass here.

It's funny when these handicapped players come here not knowing what once was. They have no addons to show real dps/hps, spell and armor pen, etc. yet seem to know more than the people who pioneered the class.

Sure mDK is fine in groups large and small, it's because they are being healed by other players... However, they can not effectively be that "tank" class when Drangons Blood heals for less than most heals. It's a self heal not affecting any other player and heals terribly even pushing 30k health.

Regardless of the skills being some of the highest costs and technically one ultimate and it's morphs working for magicka it just can't heal itself effectively once it's low.

Buff/fix/change DRAGONS BLOOD!

I didn't claim to know more than you about the class. But frankly, IDGAF if you "pioneered" the class. Just making the statement that this is the umpteenth thread with "pioneers" asking how to be better magdk's. It's funny.

And for Hev's console comment, you have a year's more of playtime, in which most mechanics are long gone from that era. So yep, maybe come up stairs from time to time and learn something from the people playing in their living rooms.

Asgari · June 2016

@Wrobel I ask with respect, why where there 0 changes in update 11 for mDK pvp wise? Its blatantly needed and another update goes by where you just make that portion of the community filled with various feelings that arent healthy for the longevity of the game.

Ishammael · June 2016

SneaK wrote: »

Princess_Asgari wrote: »

Lord_Hev wrote: »

SneaK wrote: »

All these threads...

My best running mate in Cyro is a magDK. He is great, you can be to.. But guess what, you need to learn to play your class.

A console player is telling all the old-school DKs that they need to L2p. Watch out guys, we got a smart-ass here.

It's funny when these handicapped players come here not knowing what once was. They have no addons to show real dps/hps, spell and armor pen, etc. yet seem to know more than the people who pioneered the class.

Sure mDK is fine in groups large and small, it's because they are being healed by other players... However, they can not effectively be that "tank" class when Drangons Blood heals for less than most heals. It's a self heal not affecting any other player and heals terribly even pushing 30k health.

Regardless of the skills being some of the highest costs and technically one ultimate and it's morphs working for magicka it just can't heal itself effectively once it's low.

Buff/fix/change DRAGONS BLOOD!

I didn't claim to know more than you about the class. But frankly, IDGAF if you "pioneered" the class. Just making the statement that this is the umpteenth thread with "pioneers" asking how to be better magdk's. It's funny.

And for Hev's console comment, you have a year's more of playtime, in which most mechanics are long gone from that era. So yep, maybe come up stairs from time to time and learn something from the people playing in their living rooms.

You don't know what you're talking about, mate.

Armitas · June 2016

Princess_Asgari wrote: »

@Wrobel I ask with respect, why where there 0 changes in update 11 for mDK pvp wise? Its blatantly needed and another update goes by where you just make that portion of the community filled with various feelings that arent healthy for the longevity of the game.

Hate*, Consternation. Frustration. Disgust. Despair. Just to name a few of my feelings.

*Company.