Would you subscribe to a no content account that provides all the perks that ESO+ has?

Neirymn · June 2016

Yes

The only way to get rid of a temptation is to yield to it. Resist it, and your soul grows sick with longing for the things it has forbidden to itself.

Oscar Wilde

Envy is a sin, don't be envious, be envied! Longing for the convenience that give the crafting bags? *whispers* Subscribe... That will only cost you... a monthly fee and your soul!

Mettaricana · June 2016

Niastissa wrote: »

Tandor wrote: »

I'm fine with the present arrangements, it's now a fair deal for subscribers and a fair deal for those who want to contribute either occasionally or not at all. They've got all bases covered, and no doubt in time the crafting bag will be made available in a limited form to non-subscribers.

Why can't it be made available without paying to rent the content? Is that not a fair option? Everyone who gets the bag pays for the bag. Everyone contributes.

Why the need to make people keep paying of the same content? Seriously I want to know.

It doesn't seem fair that if you subscribe you get access to the content and perks. But if you buy the DLC you don't get the perks. The only way currently to get the perks is to rent the same content. How is that fair?

Not about being fair its called being a business. If a business can charge ya twice and make twice the amount its gonna do it.

Niastissa · June 2016

Yes

Mettaricana wrote: »

Niastissa wrote: »

Tandor wrote: »

I'm fine with the present arrangements, it's now a fair deal for subscribers and a fair deal for those who want to contribute either occasionally or not at all. They've got all bases covered, and no doubt in time the crafting bag will be made available in a limited form to non-subscribers.

Why can't it be made available without paying to rent the content? Is that not a fair option? Everyone who gets the bag pays for the bag. Everyone contributes.

Why the need to make people keep paying of the same content? Seriously I want to know.

It doesn't seem fair that if you subscribe you get access to the content and perks. But if you buy the DLC you don't get the perks. The only way currently to get the perks is to rent the same content. How is that fair?

Not about being fair its called being a business. If a business can charge ya twice and make twice the amount its gonna do it.

Why are we as customers so willing to bend over and take it then?

bareheiny · June 2016

No

Niastissa wrote: »

Mettaricana wrote: »

Niastissa wrote: »

Tandor wrote: »

I'm fine with the present arrangements, it's now a fair deal for subscribers and a fair deal for those who want to contribute either occasionally or not at all. They've got all bases covered, and no doubt in time the crafting bag will be made available in a limited form to non-subscribers.

Why can't it be made available without paying to rent the content? Is that not a fair option? Everyone who gets the bag pays for the bag. Everyone contributes.

Why the need to make people keep paying of the same content? Seriously I want to know.

It doesn't seem fair that if you subscribe you get access to the content and perks. But if you buy the DLC you don't get the perks. The only way currently to get the perks is to rent the same content. How is that fair?

Not about being fair its called being a business. If a business can charge ya twice and make twice the amount its gonna do it.

Why are we as customers so willing to bend over and take it then?

Because the convenience outweighs the cost. Or we (the generic we...not trying to speak for everybody) simply see it (reserving some perks to incentivise folk to subscribe) as a reasonable practice.

Niastissa · June 2016

Yes

bareheiny wrote: »

Niastissa wrote: »

Mettaricana wrote: »

Niastissa wrote: »

Tandor wrote: »

I'm fine with the present arrangements, it's now a fair deal for subscribers and a fair deal for those who want to contribute either occasionally or not at all. They've got all bases covered, and no doubt in time the crafting bag will be made available in a limited form to non-subscribers.

Why can't it be made available without paying to rent the content? Is that not a fair option? Everyone who gets the bag pays for the bag. Everyone contributes.

Why the need to make people keep paying of the same content? Seriously I want to know.

It doesn't seem fair that if you subscribe you get access to the content and perks. But if you buy the DLC you don't get the perks. The only way currently to get the perks is to rent the same content. How is that fair?

Not about being fair its called being a business. If a business can charge ya twice and make twice the amount its gonna do it.

Why are we as customers so willing to bend over and take it then?

Because the convenience outweighs the cost. Or we (the generic we...not trying to speak for everybody) simply see it (reserving some perks to incentivise folk to subscribe) as a reasonable practice.

So if you as a customer use your crowns you get from subscribing to buy the DLC why would you not want a less expensive subscription that doesn't provide access to the content you already have access to?

In response to what someone else was saying about the company only wanting to make money. The old adage, happy cows make more milk applies.

bareheiny · June 2016

No

Niastissa wrote: »

bareheiny wrote: »

Niastissa wrote: »

Mettaricana wrote: »

Niastissa wrote: »

Tandor wrote: »

I'm fine with the present arrangements, it's now a fair deal for subscribers and a fair deal for those who want to contribute either occasionally or not at all. They've got all bases covered, and no doubt in time the crafting bag will be made available in a limited form to non-subscribers.

Why can't it be made available without paying to rent the content? Is that not a fair option? Everyone who gets the bag pays for the bag. Everyone contributes.

Why the need to make people keep paying of the same content? Seriously I want to know.

It doesn't seem fair that if you subscribe you get access to the content and perks. But if you buy the DLC you don't get the perks. The only way currently to get the perks is to rent the same content. How is that fair?

Not about being fair its called being a business. If a business can charge ya twice and make twice the amount its gonna do it.

Why are we as customers so willing to bend over and take it then?

Because the convenience outweighs the cost. Or we (the generic we...not trying to speak for everybody) simply see it (reserving some perks to incentivise folk to subscribe) as a reasonable practice.

So if you as a customer use your crowns you get from subscribing to buy the DLC why would you not want a less expensive subscription that doesn't provide access to the content you already have access to?

In response to what someone else was saying about the company only wanting to make money. The old adage, happy cows make more milk applies.

Probably because I'd only ever use my Crowns to purchase DLC in preparation for dropping my sub.

But then again, I come from a game that doesn't allow you to use stipends for DLC purchases.

I'd much rather have a cheaper sub that gave me everything except the bonus crowns.

Niastissa · June 2016

Yes

bareheiny wrote: »

Niastissa wrote: »

bareheiny wrote: »

Niastissa wrote: »

Mettaricana wrote: »

Niastissa wrote: »

Tandor wrote: »

I'm fine with the present arrangements, it's now a fair deal for subscribers and a fair deal for those who want to contribute either occasionally or not at all. They've got all bases covered, and no doubt in time the crafting bag will be made available in a limited form to non-subscribers.

Why can't it be made available without paying to rent the content? Is that not a fair option? Everyone who gets the bag pays for the bag. Everyone contributes.

Why the need to make people keep paying of the same content? Seriously I want to know.

It doesn't seem fair that if you subscribe you get access to the content and perks. But if you buy the DLC you don't get the perks. The only way currently to get the perks is to rent the same content. How is that fair?

Not about being fair its called being a business. If a business can charge ya twice and make twice the amount its gonna do it.

Why are we as customers so willing to bend over and take it then?

Because the convenience outweighs the cost. Or we (the generic we...not trying to speak for everybody) simply see it (reserving some perks to incentivise folk to subscribe) as a reasonable practice.

So if you as a customer use your crowns you get from subscribing to buy the DLC why would you not want a less expensive subscription that doesn't provide access to the content you already have access to?

In response to what someone else was saying about the company only wanting to make money. The old adage, happy cows make more milk applies.

Probably because I'd only ever use my Crowns to purchase DLC in preparation for dropping my sub.

But then again, I come from a game that doesn't allow you to use stipends for DLC purchases.

I'd much rather have a cheaper sub that gave me everything except the bonus crowns.

To that I have to ask why are you dropping your subscription? Is it because you no longer wish to keep paying for the content so you buy tin order to stop paying?

If so then wouldn't the model of paying less to get the perks and buying the content once be preferable?

Van_0S · June 2016

Yes

Niastissa wrote: »

Perks only subscription:

Costs less then ESO+
No access to content through this subscription.
All other ESO+ perks provided.
Have it be 50% of the cost of the ESO+ subscription through each payment duration option.
50% of the crowns of ESO+ (6 months gets 4500 crowns not 9000)

Good idea! OP!
With that said!, many can try out these perks and know if its worth it.

WanderingJarlPuncher · June 2016

No

@Niastissa

My thoughts are if a player is buying all the DLC some sort of rewards should be given to them too. This seems like a fair reward plan which in conjunction with the DLC purchases would be on parity with the full subscription

you reward lack of quality, lack of suctomer service, lack of display that they are working on problems with money, why would they fix it if they know they will get paid even if they dont do it?

Niastissa · June 2016

Yes

WanderingJarlPuncher wrote: »

@Niastissa

My thoughts are if a player is buying all the DLC some sort of rewards should be given to them too. This seems like a fair reward plan which in conjunction with the DLC purchases would be on parity with the full subscription

you reward lack of quality, lack of suctomer service, lack of display that they are working on problems with money, why would they fix it if they know they will get paid even if they dont do it?

What problems are you running into?

The only issues I have seen are the audio issues on the Mac right now. I'm hopeful that they will have it fixed in this upcoming maintenance.

If we don't pay them something what is the motivation to keep working? The reason I think the unlimited crafting bag space is worth more money is because of the extra server overhead of having to handle more data. More data is more stress on the servers compounded by each user using them. As long as the perk works I have no problem paying for the service.

I agree with you about only paying for milestones met though. In that regard I like the idea of purchasing the DLC instead of paying to have access to any content available during the duration of the subscription.

Developing more cool perks will bring in monthly fees. Developing more quests, zones for PVE and PVP, enhancing trade skills and the rest of the meat of the game brings in money from sales.

The old school subscription model for everything simply isn't cutting it anymore. If it was this game would have never needed a crown store to begin with.

Emma_Overload · June 2016

No

NO.

What ZOS needs to do (to make things right) is sell a DLC version of the Crafting Bag in the Crown Store. Problem solved!

Van_0S · June 2016

Yes

Emma_Overload wrote: »

NO.

What ZOS needs to do (to make things right) is sell a DLC version of the Crafting Bag in the Crown Store. Problem solved!

Yep! This is also a good idea!
But lately, ZO$ has become very greedy and ignoring issues regarding player feedback!

Lysette · June 2016

Yes

I voted yes, because I think it would be an option for people, who have bought all the DLCs separately - it would be a way for them to get the perks and they would commit to the game at the same time. so that is why I voted YES - but I would in fact not go away from my full subscription, because I would have to buy the DLCs then - I rather prefer an all inclusive offer.

Destyran · June 2016

I already am getting this exact same service on xbox one i cant access the doc areas due to crashing and un retrievable toons. So yeah i guess i am already

Lysette · June 2016

Yes

Destyran wrote: »

I already am getting this exact same service on xbox one i cant access the doc areas due to crashing and un retrievable toons. So yeah i guess i am already

ZOS said in the live show, that they have pretty much all of their technicians working on fixing that, as far as it is on their part. But they said as well, it might be weeks until it can go live, due to the approval process from Microsoft.

WanderingJarlPuncher · June 2016

No

@Niastissa take a coffee while you read this its long but oh so enlightening. also be ready to see this post being erase modified or simply loaded with comments aimed to "destroy it" by those who discovered RPGs by skyrim and that think that sephiroth is the worlds most horrible super vilain in a video game..... so im going to sreen it and repost it from time to time on here and Facebook and their twitter.

If we don't pay them something what is the motivation to keep working?

they would be worthy of a pay check if they actually earned it.
woudl you pay for a car if it didnt come with breaks, gas pedal safety belts driver seat and had no windshield? no. what would you do? ask them to fix it in order to invest money in the car. even better would you pay an eploey at your company if he spent his days texting, snapchatting, facebooking, and skyping instead of working? NO. WE pay for a service and we arent getting it.

same thing for eso. if they dont fix their own "proud and glorious" product whats the point of paying them if they know they will get money even if they dont fix it? they have been handing out broken conent content since day 1 like STD's and asked us for money in exchanges for fixes that are still inexistent in the game. mailbox still requires to log out log in, group finder still broken, hell even some stupid starter quest are still messed up, circus of cheerful slaughter and kill the faction leader that break the dangerous past. this is STARTER questing and its still broken.
db is stil bugged , pvp in 2.5 years of gameplay has never been so horribly broken and loaded with bots yet zenimax and Bethesda ask us for money and dont fix anything.

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The reason I think the unlimited crafting bag space is worth more money is because of the extra server overhead of having to handle more data.

the crafting bag is forced if you want to avoid having 4-5 different mules to carry your stuff around. wich i dont mind since you only need 4 chars in this game 1 nb 1 dk 1temp and 1 sorc one in each faction sine tamriel one is ridding us of faction standards. other than that craftbag is only a reward to make yo forget that this options shoudl have been added since day 1.
you love to craft? become a paying member

we will love you so much we will make you realise you wasted countless amounts of gold pièces on your mules that took for ever to get max bag max bank max mount and we will give you 1 upgrade that should have been there almost 3 years ago.

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I agree with you about only paying for milestones met though. In that regard I like the idea of purchasing the DLC instead of paying to have access to any content available during the duration of the subscription.

ok lets have fun on this one.

ORSINIUM 30$ for 42 quest wich is with all due respect less than bangkorai grathwood or even betnik
THIEF GUILD 20$ for 23 quest and 6 heist.
DARK BROTHERHOOD 20$ for 17 quests and around 100 npcs to kill
IMPERIAL CITY 25$ for 20 quests and a few pvp kill quests

grand total 95$ for 102 quest more or less ok.....
THE GAME COSTS LESS THAN THAT AND IT HAS OVER 350 quest per factions AKA 1400 quest total before you step into craglorn wich has 31 quests also with many requiring a group. then you have the pvp quests in cirodill as well... all that for 60$

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Developing more cool perks will bring in monthly fees. Developing more quests, zones for PVE and PVP, enhancing trade skills and the rest of the meat of the game brings in money from sales.

more cool perks.. in case you havent realised it yet theres only 4 classes in the game. and they have ALL been drained so badly of their juicy fun that its redundant to play the game. i feel like im playing dungeon fighter online when i play eso , i play to level up characters cuz i dont have anythign else to do in the game since i already completed the game on 5 different chars because leveling in this game was so dumbed down that i just make a generic set for my new chars and send them on a killing spree for 8 hours and they become LVL 50 CP 450 then i switch to level another char that will end up 50-450 in another 8 hours. maybe 9 horus without the useless 10% exp bonus from subscrion

developping more quests and zone..... in case you havent noticed the only big zone dlc so far is orsinium otherwise its just a 1x1 square CM of map taken for the new " super duper mega uber cool kid zone" DLCs that doesnt need more than a week to plow through without any efforts. it took them 3 years to make 100 quests in zones smaller than bangkorai and betnik, dev wasnt the goal on those dlc.

enhencing trade skills.... yeah they added 1 trait maybe 15 recipes and 20 potions in 2.5 years xD if thats enhencement i cant wait to see what your thoughts are on steroids.

monthly fees: the day they fix their game completly or least up to 95% like any respected mmorpg company i will reconsider getting a sub back. in the mean time the game is at 60% more or less this does include Customer service cuz honestly TESOU has THE WORST CUSOMER SUPPORT i have ever seen, trust me i left ff14 cuz theirs was horrible and tesou made me rethink my position.

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The old school subscription model for everything simply isn't cutting it anymore. If it was this game would have never needed a crown store to begin with.

WRONG subscription mode is viable in a game where price meets quality. wich is not the case with every recent online games. and eso is no exeption to that.

dfo, maplestory, aion, eso, neverwinter gw swtor and so on dont have quality > price that match so they rely on pay to win to make ends meet.

4 great example: EQ even after 20 years they still have their members subscribed.
FF11 and FF14 : both stil insane amount of players subscribed in both game because the game meets the price and quality of what they charge.
anarchy online a futur version of EQ still run on subscription
ultima online even since its debut in the late 90s it still runs with sub

only reason cash shop are flourishing? cuz too hard army discovered via pay to win games that making money via game cards and game codes on G2A can make you earn a living

eq didnt need pay to win to live. ff11 didnt need it either ff14 dont need it hell they have over 100 millions players world wide.
even wow took the pay to win model after they relased the revamp of burning crusade. the only companies that rely heavily on pay to win? short term profit > keeping their customers.
keep your Customer happy > youll get rich

modern online games know that ignorant people are easy money. they dont know the game is Junk until they purchased it. and you know whats better? they have laws made up to make sure you cant be refunded.
so they know that give or take they make money from a broken product cuz leaving tutorial is more tha enough time to blow your warranty on the game. #2hours_or_no_refund

[edit] also FALSE ADVERTISING on zenimax side. their dlc advertisement is wrong . they claim to have added mounts in orsinium vendor yet only the same horse from classic eso where are the new horses? oh right in the pay to win shop.

WanderingJarlPuncher · June 2016

No

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WanderingJarlPuncher · June 2016

No

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Ep1kMalware · June 2016

I'd buy it, I've a;ready bought all dlc. So with the perks available atm I feel there's no point. but I'd buy a cheaper non dlc eso+ for perks. might get it anyway cuz costumes.

JKorr · June 2016

Niastissa wrote: »

Smileybones wrote: »

Perks are useless once you've levelled up (except crafting bags), only content make subbing worth it.

If you don't mind me asking.

I have noticed people say that they buy DLC with crowns that they get from subscribing. If you own the DLC why pay the full subscribing price to continue to rent the same content?

The crafting bag is useful way longer then leveling up.

If they make non subscriber champion point limits lower then the limit for subscribers that will be useful well after leveling up.

Keep in mind this is a compromise between buy to play and subscription that pays the company money upon delivery of new content and also gives them some money on a regular basis and still provides money coming in consistently.

Edit:

I'm personally disappointed that so many people aren't willing to provide a compromise for people invested in the buy to play segment of the game. If the subscription model failed and the crown store is what kept the game afloat then the buy to play people have kept the lights on. No one is willing to show them love? Really?

I sub. I also bought all the dlc that I was interested in playing.

If I have to drop my sub for whatever reason, I still have access to all the content that I wanted.

I continue to sub because, for myself, there is no entertainment that I can get for the price of a sub that gives me unlimited amounts of time to play and have fun. *A* movie, duration about 2 hours is going to run close to if not the same price as a month of the game. Evening out, whether for drinks or dinner at a restaurant is one evening, and its going to cost more than a month of the game.

Subbing gives me access to everything; even the IC dlc that I didn't buy. I can still go there with my guildmates as long as I sub. I get a return on my sub with crowns that I can use to buy dlc, or mimic stones to craft for my guildmates, a fancier color senche, or even somewhat ridiculous costumes [that I haven't bought and don't plan to]. ZOS gives me the game I enjoy playing, I give them a sub in exchange. The crafting bag is a nice bonus; I played for two years without it so it isn't a necessity.

I'm not claiming I'm completely happy with everything in the state of the game, I still get intermittent slideshows in Orsinium and there are other bugs and glitches I wish they would fix. However, for me and the way I play, there is more good than bad, and I'm willing to keep subbing at this point.

Niastissa · June 2016

Yes

@WanderingJarlPuncher Cosmetic mounts are not pay to win. They don't run faster then the other mounts. Plus they tend to include a mount in the bundle deals with DLC.

If you @JKorr bought all the DLC you think is interesting why pay for that content again plus the uninteresting content just to get the perks? Why not simply subscribe to a perk only account?

This isn't about paying less. It's about getting more for your money. Take the left over money from not paying for the same content and buy that last DLC, costumes or mounts or whatever.

AmberLaTerra · June 2016

No

It is not a matter of compromise, it is a matter of without subs and income the game dies. ZOS is a business, if they are not making money they close the game. Everyone seems to want everything handed to them and expects sever costs, developer costs for new content and fixing bugs, forum hosting costs and paying staff that manage the forums and all that will somehow be magically paid by pixie dust and unicorns or some such.

Without real money the game dies. Stop crying for things free or things cheaper and trying to kill the game.

idk · June 2016

No

The idea is not likely to be accepted by the business managers. First off, with the reduced crowns one can buy most of the DLC during a year. Considering no dungeons or trials were offered in DB one could have purchased all the DLC offered in the past year that provided group content. Basically, the would not be a good business decision and therefore will likely not happen.

While it would be more likley something would develop that would offer everything mentioned by OP without gaining any crown, it is still not likely. Makes the business model to complicated. There are two great options. No need fore more.

Niastissa · June 2016

Yes

Giles.floydub17_ESO wrote: »

The idea is not likely to be accepted by the business managers. First off, with the reduced crowns one can buy most of the DLC during a year. Considering no dungeons or trials were offered in DB one could have purchased all the DLC offered in the past year that provided group content. Basically, the would not be a good business decision and therefore will likely not happen.

While it would be more likley something would develop that would offer everything mentioned by OP without gaining any crown, it is still not likely. Makes the business model to complicated. There are two great options. No need fore more.

Eliminate the crowns then. I personally bough the DLC in it's entirety without crowns from a subscription.

I don't understand how people seem to think subscriptions magically keep the lights on better then DLC. If DLC didn't make money developers wouldn't be doing it in every single game now.

Niastissa · June 2016

Yes

AmberLaTerra wrote: »

It is not a matter of compromise, it is a matter of without subs and income the game dies. ZOS is a business, if they are not making money they close the game. Everyone seems to want everything handed to them and expects sever costs, developer costs for new content and fixing bugs, forum hosting costs and paying staff that manage the forums and all that will somehow be magically paid by pixie dust and unicorns or some such.

Without real money the game dies. Stop crying for things free or things cheaper and trying to kill the game.

You are not making sense. Either way the game is making money. It's too late to not have buy to play in the game. This compromise will not alienate the majority of players who bought the DLC. Even if they are not here complaining as the perks get more and more you can take it to the bank that they will be disgruntled.

If DLC continues to be released in quarterly chunks at a reasonable price I don't see why ZOS wouldn't be making the same amount of money on the DLC store as someone paying for the subscription. If everyone was on subscription then just like the first year ZOS wold have no incentive to release any new content. We'd only be paying for the right to play the game that was already out.

Again no one is asking for free to play.

Brrrofski · June 2016

Niastissa wrote: »

Tandor wrote: »

I'm fine with the present arrangements, it's now a fair deal for subscribers and a fair deal for those who want to contribute either occasionally or not at all. They've got all bases covered, and no doubt in time the crafting bag will be made available in a limited form to non-subscribers.

Why can't it be made available without paying to rent the content? Is that not a fair option? Everyone who gets the bag pays for the bag. Everyone contributes.

Why the need to make people keep paying of the same content? Seriously I want to know.

It doesn't seem fair that if you subscribe you get access to the content and perks. But if you buy the DLC you don't get the perks. The only way currently to get the perks is to rent the same content. How is that fair?

Because they want incentives for people to subscribe.

Subsctiptions are steady, constant income. They want as many people as possible to become that and not just buying x DLC which looksgood but not the next one.

Defilted · June 2016

ESO+ plus is income that can be planned for. You cannot predict when someone is going to buy a DLC but you can predict what income you're getting month to month based on the subs you have. They want people to sub, they think it is great when someone buys a DLC, but the SUB money is where it is at for a business.

Niastissa · June 2016

Yes

Brrrofski wrote: »

Niastissa wrote: »

Tandor wrote: »

I'm fine with the present arrangements, it's now a fair deal for subscribers and a fair deal for those who want to contribute either occasionally or not at all. They've got all bases covered, and no doubt in time the crafting bag will be made available in a limited form to non-subscribers.

Why can't it be made available without paying to rent the content? Is that not a fair option? Everyone who gets the bag pays for the bag. Everyone contributes.

Why the need to make people keep paying of the same content? Seriously I want to know.

It doesn't seem fair that if you subscribe you get access to the content and perks. But if you buy the DLC you don't get the perks. The only way currently to get the perks is to rent the same content. How is that fair?

Because they want incentives for people to subscribe.

Subsctiptions are steady, constant income. They want as many people as possible to become that and not just buying x DLC which looksgood but not the next one.

This is a proposed subscription. It just isn't double dipping.

Brrrofski · June 2016

Niastissa wrote: »

Brrrofski wrote: »

Niastissa wrote: »

Tandor wrote: »

I'm fine with the present arrangements, it's now a fair deal for subscribers and a fair deal for those who want to contribute either occasionally or not at all. They've got all bases covered, and no doubt in time the crafting bag will be made available in a limited form to non-subscribers.

Why can't it be made available without paying to rent the content? Is that not a fair option? Everyone who gets the bag pays for the bag. Everyone contributes.

Why the need to make people keep paying of the same content? Seriously I want to know.

It doesn't seem fair that if you subscribe you get access to the content and perks. But if you buy the DLC you don't get the perks. The only way currently to get the perks is to rent the same content. How is that fair?

Because they want incentives for people to subscribe.

Subsctiptions are steady, constant income. They want as many people as possible to become that and not just buying x DLC which looksgood but not the next one.

This is a proposed subscription. It just isn't double dipping.

I reponded to your posts out buying a bag.

Niastissa · June 2016

Yes

Brrrofski wrote: »

Niastissa wrote: »

Brrrofski wrote: »

Niastissa wrote: »

Tandor wrote: »

I'm fine with the present arrangements, it's now a fair deal for subscribers and a fair deal for those who want to contribute either occasionally or not at all. They've got all bases covered, and no doubt in time the crafting bag will be made available in a limited form to non-subscribers.

Why can't it be made available without paying to rent the content? Is that not a fair option? Everyone who gets the bag pays for the bag. Everyone contributes.

Why the need to make people keep paying of the same content? Seriously I want to know.

It doesn't seem fair that if you subscribe you get access to the content and perks. But if you buy the DLC you don't get the perks. The only way currently to get the perks is to rent the same content. How is that fair?

Because they want incentives for people to subscribe.

Subsctiptions are steady, constant income. They want as many people as possible to become that and not just buying x DLC which looksgood but not the next one.

This is a proposed subscription. It just isn't double dipping.

I reponded to your posts out buying a bag.

I never said you buy the bag in this thread. I said you buy the dlc separate and since you already have the DLC you pay less per month to get the perks.