Been a subscriber since day one! : )

Been subscribed since game launched on PC, played in the beta and had my account set up to go on day one. Switched to Xbox when game released on xbox as that was where I wanted to play it all along. This month I have lost access to ESO+ despite paying for it and have been waiting for it to be fixed...

I unsubscribed over the cheating issue and various serious defects not being fixed (such as the broken group finder). However it seems like they might finally be taking the cheating seriously. If they start addressing some of the more serious issues as well then I may come back into the fold.

But its going to take some convincing after the DB debacle before I do.

Lysette wrote: »

AhPook_Is_Here wrote: »

I'm not really interested in a subscription model nor do I miss any of the offers related to one. I wouldn't mind access to some of the content though and would be happy to "pay" for it though advertising support. If they made an "Allow sponsored ads for content" check box I'd be all over that.

I would gladly take 30 seconds to have a dialogue with the spirit of the defeated mantacora about why I should take a minute to order a pizza or book residence on airbnb or whatever before the next pull. I don't know why mmos have never done this or had branded environments that generate sales traffic. Golden opportunity here, literally.

This is the kind of thing I would never accept - I would be gone for good.

We will need an Adblock addon in that scenario. lol

daemonios wrote: »

Wow, pretty nice poll, love it how you didn't colour the options to show your own personal bias and gave so many choices.

My case is exactly that I have been a subscriber since day 1 and dropped my sub recently for several reasons.

For starters I don't believe in free to play. I'm sorry, but if the game takes money to develop and maintain, then you should pay to play it.

Couldn't agree more with you on this. The lazy Peon points out in a video that F2P mmos have a tendency in almost if not all occasions to make your game play tedious unless you spend money. Sure theres ways around it (ruthless inventory management, mules, etc.) but the real question is, for a 60 box price should inventory even be an issue? IMO no.

Lysette wrote: »

AhPook_Is_Here wrote: »

I'm not really interested in a subscription model nor do I miss any of the offers related to one. I wouldn't mind access to some of the content though and would be happy to "pay" for it though advertising support. If they made an "Allow sponsored ads for content" check box I'd be all over that.

I would gladly take 30 seconds to have a dialogue with the spirit of the defeated mantacora about why I should take a minute to order a pizza or book residence on airbnb or whatever before the next pull. I don't know why mmos have never done this or had branded environments that generate sales traffic. Golden opportunity here, literally.

This is the kind of thing I would never accept - I would be gone for good.

If you were a paying customer you wouldn't experience branded environments at all. It would just be an alternative for ZoS to monetize paywall content that is off their demand curve for the price they have chosen. You could safely think of it like Spotify. I pay for Spotify because I like music without ad breaks. I pay for Netflix and Amazon prime because it is easier than torrenting. I bought a fallout 4 season pass because the content interests me. I don't pay for MMO subscriptions because I don't think the content is that interesting. They could monetize that opportunity cost with branded environments that only are experienced by those who don't find value in their offer. Furthermore, they can provide player liquidity to their paywall content to make experiencing group content easier for their cash customers. This could reduce wait times for tanks and healers in group queues.

Subbing since PC launch. Only thing that will make me cancel is if the game goes P2W which I am 99.9% sure it will not.

As of last year before they launched on Console. The understanding has been that nothing beyond base game additions and bug fixes would be promised for the base game. That if you wanted certain things that would be attached to the DLCs directly or the Subscription. Youd have to either outright buy the DLC or subscribe.

Most opted NOT to sub because they felt there was no value. Now that the subs are being given more value. Suddenly its an issue. The funniest thing to me is those who proclaim to spend money on the game every month. Even more than subs and yet havent gotten in their heads yet that if they took just a portion of what they spent every month and put it into the sub. Theyd still get the Crowns as well as the benefits of the sub. So at this point Im convinced the vast majority of those outraged over Crafting Bags and now this Costume Dye set up is just outrage for the sake of being outraged.

This forum is filled to the brim of people being upset with things for the sake of being upset. They have no real reason or concern. But drama and such gives a more desirable immediate reward chemically than being happy with something.

I am a subscriber since before it was ESO plus... I'll take my cookie now thankyouverymuch

Korah_Eaglecry wrote: »

As of last year before they launched on Console. The understanding has been that nothing beyond base game additions and bug fixes would be promised for the base game. That if you wanted certain things that would be attached to the DLCs directly or the Subscription. Youd have to either outright buy the DLC or subscribe.

Most opted NOT to sub because they felt there was no value. Now that the subs are being given more value. Suddenly its an issue. The funniest thing to me is those who proclaim to spend money on the game every month. Even more than subs and yet havent gotten in their heads yet that if they took just a portion of what they spent every month and put it into the sub. Theyd still get the Crowns as well as the benefits of the sub. So at this point Im convinced the vast majority of those outraged over Crafting Bags and now this Costume Dye set up is just outrage for the sake of being outraged.

This forum is filled to the brim of people being upset with things for the sake of being upset. They have no real reason or concern. But drama and such gives a more desirable immediate reward chemically than being happy with something.

The understanding of Tamriel Unlimited is that you wouldn't need a subscription to play any of the game. That is the whole point of the game going buy to play. It means players could buy dlc and avoid the reality that comes with most subscription only games.It's the same kind of story that people who want to cut the cord on cable. It's not that people expect stuff free but they don't like the concept of monthly fees. And many people have cut the cable by switching to internet services like hulu, roku, netflix,etc. Yes those services still have monthly fees but are typically cheaper than standard cable.

People subbed before the crafting bags and the costume dye set. I see countless posts here that says they have been subbed since launch. My issue is not with ZoS offering minor perks to subscribers, they should offer even more minor perks than they have been. My issue is these the bags and dye system are in no way minor. One makes the alternate way to access it very cumbersome with it's impermanence and the other is not even available in the base game.

As a non subscriber they can no longer craft as comfortably as a subscriber or dye as often as a subscriber without venturing into the crown store everytime they want to change something. I would at least like to see an addition of 200 crafting spaces for sale and a dye dlc that somehow offers a permanent dye access. Having to visit the crown store anytime I want to customize something makes the game feel like a free to play micro-transaction store.

It is no longer Tamriel Unlimited but Tamriel Limited.But it seems since the announcement there is no going back and rather than constantly state how wrong it is. I opted to ask for more affordable and scaled subscription packages.

JJBoomer wrote: »

Either way, its ALL money to ZOS. It all helps keep the game alive and thriving. It all helps pay their checks and put food on their tables and all helps the games development.

well it's not our job to keep food on their tables, that's their job

Arato wrote: »

JJBoomer wrote: »

svartorn wrote: »

I've been a subscriber since the beginning.

I'm not a fan of free to play games. They seem to attract too many obnoxious teens.

unfortunately thats just a staple of all online games. And its definitely not just teens. It brings a lot of less than desirable adults out of the woodwork as well.

F2P attracts Brazilians and Russians, who are too poor to buy into B2P and P2P games for the most part, now, the Brazilians and Russians I've met while games are P2P or B2P, fine people, since they're paying and invested in the game, they are a lot better mannered, don't cheat or hack or grief, most of them even speak pretty good English.

Why, thank you

Arato wrote: »

But when a game goes F2P? It's awful, chat channel gets spammed with Portuguese or Cyrillic, and the "BR's" bully and grief everyone trying to chase anyone NOT BR off the server. In TERA it was BR's, on LotRO it was Russians. I don't entirely understand why but people from those 2 particular countries flood F2P games and make them awful.

I can't speak for Russians, but there are some factors that lead to that behavior in Brazil.

Games in Brazil are generally seen as a "kids thing". I find it somehow hard to find other Brazilians of about my age (24) that like games, especially in my field of work (I'm a lawyer). Because of that, A LOT - and I mean it when I say A LOT - of the people who play games here are very young kids. Because of the stigma and the high price of electronics here, most kids have to make choices regarding what they want to play, and they will choose F2P games because then they can choose more games. Oh and our public education system is absolutely dreadful, you have no idea. It is a huge challenge to find a kid that actually learnt to speak English in school, and not by doing private classes or even teaching themselves at home.

And really, they behave awfully because there are little to no consequences to that behavior in most F2P games. No one is there to give them a slap on the wrist. Their parents don't care about what they are doing online. The Brazilians you see in B2P and P2P games are usually adults who have their own income, hence the different behavior.

I'm speaking from experience. I played both F2P and P2P games in Brazilians servers on the last 10 years.